1070 is continuing to have some interesting effects…
If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.
Discuss.
Good for Arizona.
Stand tall!
Are the States starting to pull apart at the seams?
The United State will become the United States which will revert to the Articles of Confederation. The Anti-Federalists saw this coming. . .
I’m afraid we are making too much of the Arizona law. NAFTA and GATT did more to open the borders in recent times than anything specifically related to immigration. We may be able to elect some anti-illegal immigration Republicans, and even get some percentage of illegal mestizos to self-deport, but the Republican party will never go for what we need – strong protectionism – because GOP idiots think it’s 1950 and anything that helps the workers will lead to Communism.
To those wishing for a devolution of political power, consider the downside. If the US were to break up into microstates, the first thing that would happen is the global corporations will bribe politicians to form super-state institutions, like a regional trade pact, or defensive pact, or a regional currency or Central Bank. And any of the microstates that refuse will find themselves economically isolated from trade. Also, I suspect the federal government would nuke one of our own states before it would allow independence.
I’m afraid Neo-Nietzsche must have died; he was in his 70s I think. So I’ll take it on myself to keep at least one of his ideas alive, we need to think about how to get the military on our side.
Things are heating up, I smell the pollen of secession in the air…
As compared to Civil War I, we are already in the middle-1850s. But events, thanks to hi-tech communications and transport, move much faster now. The Arizona Uprising against the ZOG will soon to spread to other states, a dozen or so of which are already proceeding with various legal nullifications and preliminary secession moves. Now, I am not big on secession per se; but, VVD, when states go, National Guard units go with them, and we are going to need heavy weapons to withstand the ZOG counterblast. Expect things to explode early 2012. What a privilage to be alive in Interesting Times!
Also, understand that it is not “Los Angeles” that is attacking Arizona’s economy. Mayor Villirag-(whatever) is a “former” member of AZATLAN, a mestizo-racial nationalist conspiracy aimed at the destruction of the US and the annexation of all the southwestern US to Mexico. He holds regular consultations with south of the border politicians. So this isn’t just a “sanctuary city” attempting to destroy Arizona…it is Mexico attacking. At some point, once we rid ourselves of the ZOG, we will have to speak to Mexico in a language it can understand. And I don’t mean Spanglish.
Also, be aware that it is not “Los Angeles” that is attacking Arizona’s economy. Mayor Villirag-(whatever) is a “former” member of AZATLAN, a mestizo-racial nationalist conspiracy aimed at the destruction of the US and the annexation of all the southwestern US to Mexico. He holds regular consultations with south of the border politicians. So this isn’t just a “sanctuary city” attempting to destroy Arizona…it is Mexico attacking. At some point, once we rid ourselves of the ZOG, we will have to speak to Mexico in a language it can understand. And I don’t mean Spanglish.
Starting to pull apart at the seams; yes it seems so.
Watch, this just put up, post at this evenings AR site:
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2010/05/man_makes_white.php
Good, lecture us more; the more the better
It is really strange how similar these incidents are to the Civil War. We have heard of some cities passing resolutions to boycott Arizona. What needs to happen now is someone with the stones to be the first City, county, or state to stand up and pass a resolution supporting Arizona. If that happens then I think this could be it, this could be the signal to hunker down and get ready because its about to hit the fan.
This whole ‘controversy’ has been a series of empty threats from big mouths with deep pockets and empty heads.
We’re at a ‘shit or get off the pot’ moment in American history and Arizona still has to prove that they don’t have a case of political constipation. This law takes effect in August, but I’ll hold off on opening the champagne until Arizona law enforcement, which is filled to the breaking point with Mexicans, proves that they have the stones to enforce it.
The fissures are becoming more evident. Outright ruptures are not far behind.
Even if the system manages to paper over this latest episode, which is quite likely (I don’t think we’re at true SHTF status yet, give it a few more years), soon enough the divisions will erupt with even more virulence. The system has reached the point where it cannot solve fundamental problems, instead it can only apply a shoddy band-aid or kick the can up the road a bit. Nothing is solved, only postponed. The obvious thing about unsolved problems is that they accumulate over time. Eventually, they overwhelm even the most powerful of entities, something that our system is going to learn soon enough.
Arizona is only a minor preview of coming attractions.
3VVD: Regarding having the military on our side, I don’t know that they’re not. The generals and admirals are politicians, but I don’t know if those with their fingers on the triggers buy into any multi culti crap. The infantry is still 85% White, the various special operations outfits are as White as a country club, as are submarines and aircrew. Officers in personnel or training knows about racial differences, and anyone in strategic planning must be aware of Israel’s nuclear weapons and who they’re aimed at. I have a real hard time imagining Army Rangers rounding up White gun owners, or jet pilots strafing the suburbs as the urban youths advance.
Discard: “I have a real hard time imagining Army Rangers rounding up White gun owners, or jet pilots strafing the suburbs as the urban youths advance.”
It should go without saying that the following is not advocacy, rather it is theory and the exploration of hypotheticals.
The military is a wildcard. If militant white nationalists act too soon, it is a given that the military will come down on them like a sledgehammer. On the other hand, if the system is in severe crisis (as seems quite likely in the coming years), there will be extreme disenchantment within the ranks.
My best guess is that, assuming white nationalists don’t do anything really stupid or premature, the military will be deeply divided by the time crisis is upon it. Unfortunately, political correctness has infected many, many white servicemen. On the other hand, much of that will quickly evaporate under the right circumstances…but some of it won’t. Again, it’s a wildcard.
Probably the most important thing is that white members of the military perceive that white nationalists didn’t “start it.” The non-whites have to be the bad guy. This is crucial. Even then, many white officers will still be against us, so far has the rot spread.
One of my greatest fears is that a major false flag operation will be conducted to discredit us, or perhaps even some well meaning but idiotic whites do something truly stupid. Militant white nationalists might counter, “Well, we can’t wait forever.” I understand that, and it’s true. But they sure as hell can wait a few more years, especially with all of the favorable dynamics coming into play. Don’t do anything stupid! Time is certainly not our friend in the long run, but it is in the short run (the next 2 to 10 years, maybe even 15 years…after that, well, something has to give whether circumstances are favorable or not).
Then there is the question of just how effective the military will even be in a domestic situation, by the time it really matters. My best guess is that it won’t be. It’s yet another highly complex system that is going to find very difficult going if the system starts unravelling. People should read up on Fourth Generation Warfare. That’s the future, not units with enormous logistical tails and breathtaking supply requirements.
In short, pro-whites need to build their own strength, regardless of what the military ends up doing. The further our ideas spread, the more white service members will be exposed to them, and the more will see the legitimacy of our cause. If some people have an “in” with high ranking officers, great. Preach on, brother! Say it loud, say it proud.
If the cavalry comes over the hill to our rescue, then great. I wouldn’t count on it, though. I also don’t think it is necessary. No need to fight the last war, the next one will be quite different.
Discard @12
Comforting and I hope you are correct.
“anyone in strategic planning must be aware of Israel’s nuclear weapons and who they’re aimed at.”
This is what I am most worried about. I assume they do, but like everyone on 911, they are prevented from doing anything about it, and evidence is destroyed immediately. The generals and admirals are all whores, “politicians” is too nice a word. If we have to lose a city to get out from under the Sampson Option – do it. Seriously. The Zionist regime in Palestine must be disarmed. They have been literally attacking us for over 50 years and our military is helpless. What the hell is going on? They won’t even arrest the AIPAC spies. I am surprised they didn’t release Pollard yet, maybe that’s next.
#14 “I am surprised they didn’t release Pollard yet, maybe that’s next.”
Who knows where Pollard is? He could have already been released for all we know. I wouldn’t put it past Washington!
When will the military turn? When the system stops paying them.
There are indeed many caveats regarding what the military will do in the case of civil breakdown. It would depend upon a lot of variables, like the percentage of non-Whites and whether they mutiny, the popularity of the President at the time, the severity of the instability, who controls the arsenals, the threat of foreign intervention – read Mexico, the morale of the forces, the political and ideological sympathy of the White elements etc. As Trainspotter says, it’s imperative that the darkies are perceived to “start it”. Otherwise Fedzog’s forces, (the authorities with the guns & badges & uniforms), will waste WN’s without hesitation. Notice how the system mollycoddles non-White offenders today, but will ruthlessly suppress any White infractions without hesitation. Whites in general still respect ‘authority’, even if it is in alien hands and slowly killing them. The military is still worshipped viscerally, if not tribally, in our so-called “democracy”, so psychological impressions and perceptions will be everything, initially. The White military, like White-Anglo society at large, will continue to toe the PC line, until forced by desperate circumstances to take racial sides. All we can do is try to spread the word, and build some semblance of cadre. White America’s day of reckoning is rapidly approaching, and we’ll see if it can meet the racial reality test.
A lot of Iraq War veterans will be returning within the next 1.5 years, as BO draws down the troop presence there. In general, White ex-military and especially White recent ex-military members might be receptive to White rights advocacy. I don’t imagine they signed up and bled for the entrenchment of unequal protection under the law and preferential treatment for non-Whites.
Junghans – Whites in general still respect ‘authority’, even if it is in alien hands and slowly killing them.
We can see that, I think, in South Africa even now. And if thats the case in SA…
To those wishing for a devolution of political power, consider the downside. If the US were to break up into microstates, the first thing that would happen is the global corporations will bribe politicians to form super-state institutions, like a regional trade pact, or defensive pact, or a regional currency or Central Bank.
This ignores the fact that the corporations would have to bribe 50 times as many pols to get their way; the non-gentiles would have to come up with 50 times as many non-gentile plants to corrupt those 50 governments, etc.
Centralization helps them and hurts us. De-centralization helps us and hurts them.
And any of the microstates that refuse will find themselves economically isolated from trade.
Please. If there’s any lesson to be drawn from merchants, it’s that they’re whores. They don’t care about politics. Non-gentiles care about politics.
we need to think about how to get the military on our side.
Much easier to get a military if there are 50 of them, rather than one big one. Winner-takes-all does not favor us.
I don’t see the military as something to turn to, except for training, lol. The federal government could not handle a serious insurgency. If you think our future is an insurgency, repeat that to yourself 3 times every day at breakfast because it’s true. The federal government would get it’s ass kicked all over the place by a serious insurgency.
God willing, that won’t be necessary.
I should amend my previous comment to note that BO is bound by GWB’s negotiated Status Of Forces Agreement, which itself is largely a result to the so-called Generals’ Revolt. I don’t want to leave the impression that I think BO is some kind of foreign policy realist, it’s merely that our government is constrained by events and circumstances at present.
One of my greatest fears is that a major false flag operation will be conducted to discredit us
This is undoubtedly in the works. It’s a good reason to be vocal about the fact that 9/11 was a false flag.
Junghans, spot on.
Also, most have probably heard about Rand Paul’s primary win in Kentucky. This is significant: it’s the first high profile, statewide victory in modern times by something resembling a true libertarian. Some would quibble with that, but clearly Rand Paul is a “radical” by today’s standards, and people with his views just don’t win statewide elections. Well, until today they didn’t. This is a big deal.
When I was a libertarian back in college, this sort of thing would have been inconceivable to us. We literally never imagined such a thing. But the libertarians just kept beavering away, spreading their ideas, even though there were virtually no tangible victories, certainly nothing on the scale of what just happened today. I’ll also mention that, even though we experienced virtually nothing resembling a tangible victory, one rarely encountered defeatist libertarians. Something white nationalism could learn from, eh?
Anyway, that’s how it works: once the ideas spread far enough, there are more and more physical manifestations of it. If the idea gains sufficient currency, favorable circumstances can cause it to take off quite suddenly. Even a far seeing person can only follow the patterns, the broad trends. Nobody can predict the particular manifestations on the ground. I can tell you, as someone who knew a lot of the top libertarians back then (hell, I still know some of them), that NOBODY ever thought of a breakthrough in a state like Kentucky. People talked about Alaska and New Hampshire, places like that. But Kentucky? Not so much as a peep, it never crossed anyone’s lips. Yet that’s where it happened. Who’d a thunk it?
Mark my words, that’s the way it will happen for us as well, in broad strokes. Focus on what we can control: the spread of high quality ideas and, as Junghans pointed out, building what infrastructure and community that we can. Since our views are actively suppressed in a way that libertarian views are not, and since white nationalist physical manifestations might not be…er….strictly electorally minded, our road will likely be rockier. But that also means that our real strength is actually far greater than it appears on the surface, so when circumstances turn favorable, watch out! Things could move very, very quickly.
For what it’s worth, I’m happy about Rand Paul’s victory. Part of that might be nostalgia for the old days as a college kid when his father ran as a Libertarian, but part of it is the recognition that something significant is going on. White America is slowly waking up, grasping, stumbling around. It isn’t ready for the real struggle, not yet. They’d rather suck down some libertarian style/Tea Party smoothies. Goes down much easier than the stronger, but far richer, tribal truth. Yet while they can cause some havoc in November, they can’t win through the conventional system any more than we can. But try telling them that after a victory like today. They are going to have to learn the hard way.
Ultimately, they will face a solid phalanx of non-whites, voting as blocs against white liberty. The non-whites aren’t interested in liberty for whites, in fact they rather like having whites bossed about and controlled. They particularly like getting their hands on white taxpayer money. Either that, or it’s just that the non-whites don’t feel “comfortable” at Tea Party meetings. LOL! Yeah, that’s it.
Bottom line: the white libertarian/Tea Party movement is on a direct collision course with the non-white hordes in this country. Just another fissure, another rupture, another hole in the wall. Inclusive slogans don’t change underlying realities. Good times!
From Pierce’s letter:
It should be clear by now even to the most liberal and tolerant Whites that the “people of color” who have bonded together against us are not operating in good will. The concept is alien to them. They openly seek to punish us for not simply handing everything over.
Cut LA’s power. Don’t threaten. Do it. If they were producing 25% of Arizona’s power they would have already cut it.
I wonder if Pierce has been reading my Blog. Eerily, this idea of cutting off power to California was discussed in the comments section of my entry “Gonna Set Your Souls On Fire”, in which I speculated on what means Muslims might employ in response to an attack on Iran.
Ronduck:
“A couple of years ago there was a pipeline failure between Phoenix and Tucson, knocking out the main pipe that brings in most of Phoenix’s gasoline. Soon after the pipe failed there were spot shortages across Phoenix.
If I remember correctly the pipeline failed because it was simply too old and unmaintained.”
My Response:
“Thanks Ronduck,
That’s extremely interesting.
I was thinking the effects of a successful attack on Pipeline(s) would be devastating just because of the spike in Oil Prices and sell-off on Wall Street it would almost certainly cause.
But once you factor in the psychological impact of probable mass blackouts, I think we’re talking about something that could make the Economic and Political Impact of 9/11 look small by comparison.
And if a lot of the blackouts happened in heavily Black and Hispanic areas, it would be especially effective from the standpoint of the key Muslim goal of undermining the perceived authority and prestige of the US Government, as such areas would likely see a prodigious degree of rioting.”
Ronduck replied further:
“Oil shortages are not likely to cause a blackout. Relying on memory maybe 1% of America’s energy comes from oil, although a larger percentage comes from natural gas. An oil shortage would restrict vehicle travel, and therefore coal deliveries, but the electric grid itself would not be affected for several weeks.
IF you wanted to cause mass disruption you would strike someplace that has a history of being hit with preventable disasters like New Orleans or California. California imports 23% of its electricity from neighboring states because of the Green lobby, so blowing up one of the lines used to import power could cause chaos. Wiki has a list of all the lines into Cali here, if you are interested Reginald bin Laden.
The Northeast is probably just as vulnerable, but I try not to think about that region of the country, considering its general liberalism.”
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Of course it wouldn’t be right for Arizona to blow up the powerlines, this was just speculation on what Muslims might do.
But at the same time the Arizonans certainly have a right to shut off the power flowing from their State to California.
At the very least they should threaten to do so, to get California to back off.
This would be just the sort of Alpha move that always impresses the ladies, and getting as many White Females to support the law as possible can’t help but be a good thing.
“Cut LA’s power. Don’t threaten. Do it. If they were producing 25% of Arizona’s power they would have already cut it.”
That would be sweet. Not gonna happen just yet, unfortunately, but it would be sweet. But down the road? I suspect that sort of thing will ultimately happen. So let’s encourage it now, just as you’re doing. One small step for man, one giant leap for breaking the system.
For now, however, we need some sort of vehicle in which normal people can sign up to “boycott” San Diego, L.A., et al. I’d be surprised if someone doesn’t set something like that up. For my next vacation, fuck California. I’m heading to ‘zona.
‘To those wishing for a devolution of political power, consider the downside. If the US were to break up into microstates, the first thing that would happen is the global corporations will bribe politicians to form super-state institutions, like a regional trade pact, or defensive pact, or a regional currency or Central Bank. And any of the microstates that refuse will find themselves economically isolated from trade. Also, I suspect the federal government would nuke one of our own states before it would allow independence.’
Svigor has already addressed this somewhat, but I underline Svigor’s skepticism regarding most of it. Many little microstates would be too much for the corporations to handle. There would be too many dark little corners, too many freethinkers.
The one thing that does disturb me is the freedom-destroying potential of nuclear weapons.
I sent a “just do it!” e-mail to Pierce; I’m sure he is getting plenty similar. Rand Paul’s victory is indeeed a positive thing, esp. in context of Specter’s loss to a far-left pol. Point is, things keep polarizing, gap between right and left widening, the center cannot hold. Perfect for us, and going to continue. #13, Trainspotter puts it really well: keep cool, don’t over-react to ZOGster provocations, no more MacVeigh stuff. Just looked at some of the threads at zerohedge, including one poster who says he talked to a serving Marine Iraq vet today; Marine said: when the TSHTF (ec. collapse, gun and PM grab by DC) they’ll take no ZOG orders, but return to base and “circle the wagons” and wait to see what develops. Then we – I mean hardrights, WNs, militias – contact them and develop a strategy to finish off whatever is left of the ZOG and its group entitlements. National Guard I’d expect to join us even more quickly.
Veni Vidi Dixi,
Quite a few of us are already here and on your side.
-Justin
The further to the right the GOP goes, the worse it is for us. We want political space to open up on the right side of the spectrum, not the center. The best thing that could happen would be for the GOP to run liberals in every seat and Arlan Specter for president. Then you might actually see openly pro-white candidates getting votes.
Trainspotter: “Probably the most important thing is that white members of the military perceive that white nationalists didn’t “start it.” /… / One of my greatest fears is that a major false flag operation will be conducted to discredit us, or perhaps even some well meaning but idiotic whites do something truly stupid.”
On the contrary, it’s high time idiotic whites started acting idiotic. When they become violent, it will help other whites to realize that it’s wrong to accept their own genocide. More white members of the military will realize that the race-replacement policy is an attack against whites. At some point, idiotic whites are bound to start acting idiotic anyway. The sooner, the better. I’d rather they didn’t wait until the situation has become desperate. Our enemies will try to exploit any idiotic violence that comes from the whites. It doesn’t mean it will work. Anyway, they are already inciting violence against the whites, and depicting them as nasty people who need to be race-replaced.
When idiotic whites start acting up everywhere, I think the media may decide it’s better not to report it.
The race-replacement process is presently in full swing, with no reaction from the whites. Our greatest fear shouldn’t be that someone will finally react. When whites start reacting, it will wake up other whites.
Several posters have mentioned the need for Whites to be seen as the innocent, injured party in any racial dust-up. The fact is, we already are.
The MSM is always looking for the Great White Dope who will murder a bunch of soldiers in an Army hospital, set off a bomb in Times Square, draw a picture of a noose in a toilet stall, or plot to kill a bunch of cops, but they’re having a tough time of it. That’s what would make a false flag operation so tempting, that the press is primed and ready to spew any story that blames angry Whites. But the media have jumped the gun too often, and a lot of people, Limbaugh fans, libertarians, TPs, ordinary Whites, won’t buy into it. Additionally, since Whites are not willing to give up their guns just because the murder rates in ghettos and barrios are so high, why would they be willing to hand over their weapons because some White nut shot up a Mexican march or something? My point is that no dastardly atrocity by White racists is going to change any Whites’ views at this point. All that would happen is that the Dark people would increase their attacks on Whites. We WILL be the defenders, not the aggressors. It will be a very hard sell to get working class White troops to shoot whites on behalf of non-Whites, when the non-Whites are the ones rioting.
“I have a real hard time imagining Army Rangers rounding up White gun owners, or jet pilots strafing the suburbs as the urban youths advance. (Discard)”
I don’t. The mostly-white military bombed Serbia back in the 90s, and the WILLINGLY follow ZOG’s orders to go kill themselves in the sandbox every day! All the government would have to do is run some false-flag attack, then point at us and scream that we are terrorists in bin laden’s pay. Most people would buy it!
I don’t think there is ever going to be an uprising among whites until the system COLLAPSES completely. That is the only way they will get uncomfortable enough to start fighting. I hope I am wrong.
Armor: “Our greatest fear shouldn’t be that someone will finally react. When whites start reacting, it will wake up other whites.”
No, it depends on the circumstances. If the circumstances aren’t right, and the action taken by the militant is not effective (probably not a good idea to take out a daycare center and a bunch of administrative assistants on the first strike), it will do nothing except convince the broader population that the militants are just a bunch of kooks that need crushing. The broader population would be right to feel that way, and right or wrong it’s certainly a perfectly normal reaction.
While not advocating anything, a revolutionary movement certainly needs very effective target selection, and it must act under opportune circumstances. For such a movement, every single act must be a political act. Circumstances, timing, agenda, impact…all must be considered. Not idiots going off half cocked.
For instance, look at McVeigh (and whoever he was working with or for, I’m not getting into that). First, he waits for two years after Waco to act, then his initial blow for justice indiscriminately kills loads of innocent people. It’s claimed that he believed that his actions would provoke a revolution. Um…it didn’t happen. All that happened is that the steam was taken out of right wing movements, but good. Big accomplishment. A few more “accomplishments” like that, and we’ll be undone.
One can almost guarantee that anybody dumb enough to take action at this particular point would also be too dumb to choose proper targets. Think about this: in war, there is collateral damage. Everyone understands this, whether they like it or not. But a nascent revolutionary movement has one great advantage, in that it gets to choose where to strike the first blow. The war begins at the precise location that the movement chooses. It will not get that luxury again, it’s a one time only shot. That initial shot will go a long way towards defining the movement in the eyes of millions. Again, not advocating anything, but it should be obvious that the first blow must count- and should not involve the deaths of innocents.
For that initial blow, a revolutionary movement literally has hundreds of millions of possible targets. But what does McVeigh do? Take out a daycare center and a bunch of secretaries, because it was a federal building? Come the fuck on. This was really the best target? It’s so beyond pathetic that the why of it shouldn’t need to be explained.
Further, whites understandably want to at least feel as if they have exhausted all peaceful alternatives. The Tea Party thing has to play itself out. We’re just not there yet, like or not.
You don’t get a successful revolution going unless the timing is right, the circumstances are right, and the revolutionaries are competent. None of those apply at the present moment.
ABOTL: “The further to the right the GOP goes, the worse it is for us. We want political space to open up on the right side of the spectrum, not the center.”
I agree in part, but the main point is that the system is struggling. Right now, it doesn’t matter what the system does. You are right, if the GOP moves left, that creates opportunity. But so does the GOP moving right, thereby creating greater polarization – especially at a time when secession is more and more openly discussed. The system is, in effect, trapped. As I mentioned above, the system can’t solve problems anymore. Instead, the problems simply accumulate. At this point, almost anything the system does is going to create opportunities for us. It cannot right its course, rather it is destined to flail about. The GOP moves right = opportunity. The GOP moves left = opportunity.
The system is, in effect, trapped. As I mentioned above, the system can’t solve problems anymore. Instead, the problems simply accumulate. At this point, almost anything the system does is going to create opportunities for us. It cannot right its course, rather it is destined to flail about.
Yep.
The left love the the ‘root causes’ concept. The root causes of black unrest, the root causes of Muslim fundamentalism, the root causes of Somali piracy etc.
What they dont want to know anything about, what they deny even exists as a purely abstract concept, is that there might be any root cause behind white grievances.
They can keep attacking the symptoms but in the end those problems are going to rise to the surface anyhow.
As far as the military goes, I’m more worried about law enforcement who are indoctrinated and trained daily with new and ingenious ways to get rid of us evil nazis…
“The GOP moves right = opportunity. The GOP moves left = opportunity.”
It will only move right from this point forward, to the extent that it moves at all.
A largely unconscious reaction formation has developed in the core voters, and it has taken on a degree of momentum of its own.
36 Vlad: It’s true that some cops are fed large doses of multi cult poison, but more than most Whites, they see the reality of race every day. I think that the propaganda that’s shoved in their faces is not intended to convince them, but to warn them not to say what they think.
Furthermore, cops are not soldiers. Note how the brave SWAT team stood around outside Columbine High School, heavily armed and armored, waiting for the bleeding to stop before they dared peek inside. Note also the pathetic performance of the police, including the FBI, in some big shootouts with robbers and the like. Or how the police in Los Angeles retreated during the Koon/King riot in 1991. Cops can manage the traffic stop and the 3:00 AM knock on the door, but not much more. That, of course, is why they call for the National Guard when Dark people get out of hand.
The only thing they understand is the exercise of power. Running away never wins, standing up does.
34 Irma Grese: I think there’s a lot of difference between dropping bombs on foreigners and killing your own kind, psychologically if not morally. The average soldier or pilot was wholly ignorant of the Balkans, its history, the different peoples involved, and could be led to believe that those nasty, Nazi-like Serbs needed to stop ethnically cleansing those lovely Albanians. But will the White man from Biloxi be so easily persuaded that the Whites of Dayton ought be killed to make room for Mexicans or Hindus? I don’t think so.
Irma Grese is correct. Don’t EVER expect the US military to mutiny, in ANY way. They are paid mercenaries and wouldn’t flinch at killing ANY force directed against. Political sympathies don’t even come into the equation in the US military, regardless of statements by retired veterans. Even if you were 90% successful and had most people on your side, the US military would continue to ‘obey orders’. Don’t EVER count on them as anything but whores for their employers. If the “Civil War” is too ancient for you, check out the forced integration of the 1950s. If that’s too old for you, consider why they sign up in the first place. It’s for MONEY. They have no other concern. They are not paid to think, and they don’t.
For my money, demoralization is the only key to handling the
US military.
Trainspotter: “Further, whites understandably want to at least feel as if they have exhausted all peaceful alternatives. The Tea Party thing has to play itself out. We’re just not there yet, like or not.”
It goes like that: not there yet, not there yet… Oops, too late! There is a risk that the white world will just fizzle out. It’s reasonable to look for peaceful alternatives to war, but the war on Whites started decades ago and has done more damage than anything we might do as a response. There should have been a massive reaction from the whites years ago. Unfortunately, the whites are unsure of their right to defend their existence. That is because the mass media and public institutions have been captured by our enemies. As a result, people will accept a useless war in Iraq, with lots of casualties, but will balk at the idea of roughing up an activist who wants to genocide the whites. But we have to move on anyway. The white man’s traditional way of protecting his people is not to use random violence, but to get together and talk in public assemblies, before it is decided to send the police or the army. But the anti-white forces have subverted the process. They prevent us from organizing, and they prevent the emergence of a natural, pro-white opinion through public debate. Even so, as Svigor often says, white support for our destruction is a mile wide and an inch deep. The herd will abandon it in a heartbeat if the wind blows the right way.
“For that initial blow, a revolutionary movement literally has hundreds of millions of possible targets. But what does McVeigh do? Take out a daycare center and a bunch of secretaries”
Obviously, it won’t help to blow up the wrong target. Before we do anything really violent, I’d like to see some basic local resistance: vandalism against the anti-white media, group visits to pro-immigration activists, some destruction of property, some rotten egg throwing, some window breaking, some politician’s car burning, insults over the phone, and so on. But it cannot be launched from the top. It has to come spontaneously from normal folks. We need legal local organizations, with some illegal activism on the side. It will result in fines and prison spells for “idiotic whites”, but it will help delegitimize the race-replacement policy, and encourage more political action in defense of the whites.
Discard: “It will be a very hard sell to get working class White troops to shoot whites on behalf of non-Whites, when the non-Whites are the ones rioting.”
Some whites like Bill Gates get a sense of moral superiority from betraying their race. Other whites insist that “diversity is our strength”. I think those people will look foolish if race relations become more confrontational. I wonder if they will support a crackdown on the whites in the name of diversity and universal love.
Discard: “It will be a very hard sell to get working class White troops to shoot whites on behalf of non-Whites, when the non-Whites are the ones rioting.”
You’re joking, right? Where have you been / how old are you?
I agree with comment 9 Another Wallace and Trainspotter knows what he is talking about.
My own views is that it is essential to intensify support for the people of Arizona and all similar initiatives through effective propaganda. Remember that economic battles always precede real wars. If Arizona escalated this to the point of creating roadblocks into their territory along the California border and either tax or check immigration status of California residents passing through civil war would not be far away.
I don’t even think Chittum’s book Civil War II suggested that CW II would of been started by Hispanic members of the United States government declaring war on the rest of us. But ultimately I think it is clear we have multiple nations living under one civil union that no longer have an interest in preserving the old civility. What we have instead is National Anarchy.
Several posters have mentioned the need for Whites to be seen as the innocent, injured party in any racial dust-up. The fact is, we already are.
The MSM is always looking for the Great White Dope who will murder a bunch of soldiers in an Army hospital, set off a bomb in Times Square, draw a picture of a noose in a toilet stall, or plot to kill a bunch of cops, but they’re having a tough time of it. That’s what would make a false flag operation so tempting, that the press is primed and ready to spew any story that blames angry Whites. But the media have jumped the gun too often, and a lot of people, Limbaugh fans, libertarians, TPs, ordinary Whites, won’t buy into it.
Which leads inevitably to the fact that false flags are a double-edged sword…
Regarding the military:
http://www.whitenewsnow.com/forums/us-news/7122-us-troops-who-refused-confiscate-guns-during-katrina-oath-keepers.html
That’s a National Guard unit though, not regular Army
45 Alfred Rosenberg:
I’m not joking.
I’ve been right here in America.
I’m old enough to have been throwing away junk mail from AARP for years.
Am I to understand that the military has solved the problem of race relations since I left? Does diversity work in the armed forces? Do uniformed Blacks no longer drag ass while Whites do the real work? Have Blacks become so much better people since I first encountered them years ago? Are young working class Whites happy to have Mexicans flooding into their towns and taking jobs, forcing them into the service? Maybe college snots with dainty fingers will praise the non-Whites, but the kids who join up are the ones who actually pay the consequences of de-Whitening. So they’re going to shoot up their own White towns to pave the way for diversity? I just can’t see it.
49 Alfred Rosenberg: I just read the latest posting (May 19) on getting the support of the military. Of particular interest is that the typical Blacks are screened out, meaning that the Whites are not seeing the true face of Afro-America, which in turn means that they are not becoming racially aware as I did so long ago. So, perhaps you’re right about the willingness of White troops to shoot their neighbors, though I’d hate to think so. Still, it’s hard to say what the real attitudes are, since the Regime works so hard to suppress open dissent, in the military and everywhere else.
I have a dollar that says that there are clever people who make it their business to know what everyone’s real attitudes are. The chessmen are being arranged, in anticipation of a Big Match.