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OD’s worldview is confirmed once again:
“CINCINNATI (AP) — A federal judge ordered Ohio authorities Monday to recognize gay marriages on death certificates, saying that the state’s ban on such unions is unconstitutional and that states cannot discriminate against same-sex couples simply because some voters don’t like homosexuality.
Although Judge Timothy Black’s ruling applies only to death certificates, his statements about Ohio’s gay-marriage ban are sweeping, unequivocal and expected to incite further litigation challenging the law. …”
For those who are keeping score, the Iowa Supreme Court imposed “gay marriage” on that state in 2009, the US Supreme Court more or less killed California’s Proposition 8 over the summer, the New Mexico Supreme Court recently ruled that “gay marriage” was legal there, and this morning the same federal judge who imposed “gay marriage” on Utah ordered that “gay marriages” could continue there.
Now comes the news that a federal judge in Ohio has decided that Ohio’s ban on “gay marriage” is unconstitutional, but this ruling only applies to death certificates – the next federal court ruling will demolish the amendment to the state constitution. US District Court Judge Timothy Black added that “once you get married lawfully in one state, another state cannot summarily take your marriage away.”
The states that have approved “gay marriage” now include: Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, Illinois, Minnesota, Washington, and Hawaii. Iowa, California, Utah, and New Mexico have been added to that list due to legal challenges.
Where do you suppose “gay marriage” is headed next? Probably to the remaining Northern and Western states before it is unilaterally imposed on the South (where it is banned in some form in every Southern state) by other US federal judges. There is already such a federal lawsuit in Alabama.
Once again, we see that it doesn’t matter who or what we vote for at the state or the federal level in the South – whether it is in presidential elections, where the South voted against Obama twice, or state immigration laws, which were passed by electorates in Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina, only to be gutted by federal courts – the existence of the Union is what has made “representative government” impossible here.
The existence of the Union is what has brought down on us all the federal civil rights laws, affirmative action, the welfare state, cultural degeneration, two terms of Barack Obama, millions of illegal aliens, legal immigration from the Third World, etc. Assuredly, the next step forward to “progress” will be “gay marriage,” undoubtedly at the hands of the Northeastern-controlled federal government through the US federal court system which will pronounce that the definition of marriage is “unconstitutional.”
The worst mistake in our entire history was to ratify that “constitution” in the first place. Now it is being used to railroad us into “gay marriage” in exactly the same way that its earliest critics feared it would be used.
‘America’ corrupts and destroys all it touches. You can’t be an ‘American’ and a Christian.
@haroldscrewloose
You are automatically a citizen of the United States if you are born here. Your faith or lack of it has nothing to do with it. Have you formally renounced your citizenship, stopped paying taxes, turned in your passport, and requested that you stop receiving Social Security checks (or direct deposits?)
No? I didn’t think so you hypocritical old fart.
The different regional cultures have their own ideal of America.
Harold is saying that the Northeastern ideal is consistently imposed on the rest of the country through the federal courts.
As I said in 2008, when Obama and his minions get done with this country, you will be able to perform fellatio on a dog at 5PM on a corner at La Salle and Wacker.
This man is intent on destroying this country and it will take generations to undo what he has already done, if it will even be possible.
When this country falls, it will make Serbia-Croatia look like child’s play.
A liberal could also say this, an ‘American’ cannot also be a Christian…it is fast approaching this point. If America is defined by the legal jurisdiction of these courts, then I’d say that you categorically can’t be a true American and remain Christian.
Something about serving two masters. From everything I I’ve seen you write here Rudel I’m surprised to see that you don’t agree with the liberal position that bigoted prejudiced and judgemental people have no place in the shiny shiny new America.
“Harold is saying that the Northeastern ideal is consistently imposed on the rest of the country through the federal courts.”
No that is not what he said.
When I think of ‘America’, I think of the Northeastern states, the Upper Midwest, and the West Coast.
The people who live in that area have a worldview which couldn’t be more different from my own. When the average Southerner thinks of ‘America’, they are thinking about their own version of it.
The difference is that League members don’t identify with ‘America’. They identify with the South, but are more careful in their language. We understand that ‘America’ in the sense it is used here is at odds with ‘America’ as it is defined elsewhere.
‘America’ is that part is the US which broadcasts its perverted culture to the rest of the country.
The Union has been a horror unto us. Nothing good about it.
“From everything I I’ve seen you write here Rudel I’m surprised to see that you don’t agree with the liberal position that bigoted prejudiced and judgemental people have no place in the shiny shiny new America.”
WTF are you talking about? I am one of the principal Northern anti-Unionist on this site. I consistently argue for political devolution, jury and state legislature nullification, non-compliance with federal taxation, and outright secession. You post nothing but half-baked or false historical anecdotes heavily slanted towards Victorian John Bull myths about the British Empire and especially World War II.
Your comparison of the heavy Beaufighter torpedo bomber (and its variants) to the Mosquito was the last straw as they are completely different planes. I’ve stopped correcting you because it got boring. The only thing we agree on is that volley fire by ranks of infantry is effective against mass charges of natives with spears or unarmed Hindu peasants. It certainly didn’t work against Yankee snipers or red Indians attacking from cover.
“The difference is that League members don’t identify with ‘America’. They identify with the South, but are more careful in their language.”
In that case screwyharold is not very careful with his language. Has he formally renounced his citizenship in the USA, stopped paying taxes, turned in his passport, and requested that he stop receiving Social Security checks, or Medicare benefits?
Talk is cheap and Harold speaks at deeply discounted prices.
And you don’t know jack shit about the West Coast, especially the rural Pacific Northwest which includes large swaths of California. Y’all talk about how useless the Republican Party is and then turn around and base your opinion on the rest of the country on whether or not they vote Republican! LOL
“‘America’ is that part is the US which broadcasts its perverted culture to the rest of the country.”
That would restrict your definition to Manhattan, Washington DC, and Hollywood.
Saying the Constitution says something about homosexuals, is complete and utter nonsense. The Constitution makes no mention of of them at all, so these activist judges clearly make this stuff up as they go along.
What we have with judges is an out of touch ivory tower group, that does not have the consent of the general population, yet for some bizarre reason, their opinions are the law of the land. So essentially what they are is unelected dictators.
This isn’t necessarily the fault of the Union, this is the way judges behave in every Western country. They are a huge part of what has been deconstructing Western Civilization.
What I mean precisely is that there is no ‘America’ other than a set of political propositions whose meanings depend upon whom you ask and when you ask them. And paradoxically its proponents hold these propositions out to be universal anyway. Everything else about ‘America’ and been repudiated as divisive. It isn’t race or ethnicity. It isn’t religion at least in the conventional sense. Considering the amount of immigration the last few decades it isn’t even a common language, history, or culture any more. ‘America’ is no more than a social construct and a false one at that.
Additionally Rudel, you ignorant ass, if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know that citizenship can’t legally be renounced by someone living within the United States.
‘That would restrict your definition to Manhattan, Washington DC, and Hollywood.’
Don’t they basically define ‘America’ and determine what is chic, moral and legal in this bizarre society?
@ “…You can’t be an ‘American’ and a Christian….”
Not now, but not long ago, you COULD, which goes to show and prove the constitution IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
The SAME people who have used the potentials for abuse to push their agenda on it, would have used the SAME TACTICS on ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT the people had put into place.
This happens to be the way to go at the constitution, by Saul-Alinskying and “holding it to the letter…” So “ok you want freedom, you losers? Here’s your freedom! You like that you little pigs?”
If it had been a monarchy, they’d say, “Ok you want a king, we’ll give you a king. You like this one, you little pigs?”
The constitution is not the problem, but rather the people USING THESE TACTICS to undermine it.
You just help them by not looking at that, and by doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT, acting like it’s the constitution that is the problem (and contributing to destabilizing the society).
Seriously… how many even understand that IT WOULD BE DONE RIGHT NOW TO ANY SYSTEM. If the country had been something else, they would rip that down.
They ripped down monarchies, too. They rip down republics. They will rip down democracies. They rip things down. That is who they are, lol.
Before, the same people used the same tactics to destroy monarchs. If it wasn’t a constitution, it would be something else. Why get bogged down in what they want you to think (“oh…if only we had done another form of government, oh, woe is us, if only…”
@ Have you formally renounced your citizenship, stopped paying taxes, turned in your passport, and requested that you stop receiving Social Security checks (or direct deposits?)
Rudel, you can’t legally opt out of Social Security anymore. My last relative old enough to do so died about ten years ago. While leaving sounds great…fact is, many have been in the country since the 1600s…and it’s an emotional thing. It just seems hard to leave what you once thought of as home. Maybe younger ones now will just be able to leave it and go to countries that offer a “better life.” (That’s why people go to countries nowadays…that’s why the others are here…so that’s what we’re taught about what “countries” mean—- just getting the best “deal” for yourself.
Materialism is just uninspired.
How to renounce US citizenship.
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html
The citizens of Oregon voted against homosexual marriage by plebiscite in 2008. It is now in the process of being overturned by the degenerate courts.
“How to renounce US citizenship.”
So why haven’t you done so?
“you can’t legally opt out of Social Security anymore.”
There are millions of teachers and others who have never paid into Social Security and don’t receive Social Security when they retire unless they have had other jobs that pay into it.
America is precisely what the supreme court says it is.
Power is Power
Well, the last I heard of Arab
He was stuck on a whale
That was married to the deputy
Sheriff of the jail
But the funniest thing was
When I was leavin’ the bay
I saw three ships a-sailin’
They were all heading my way
I asked the captain what his name was
And how come he didn’t drive a truck
He said his name was Columbus
I just said, “Good luck”
It is the Jews and the globalists who are responsible for these obscenities, not the big, bad “North”, as proclaimed by the Slave Reich diehards.
It is true that Federal judges will constantly thwart any attempt of the people to protect their values and way of life. They will have to be removed – and impeaching them is not the way to do it – if you catch my drift.
(I’m sure that this one will be moderated: read “deleted”.) Why don’t we stop refighting the Civil War and start dealing with present day troublemakers?
All White institutions, customs, traditions, religion and history are under anti-White attack in all White countries and ONLY White countries. It’s an integral part of the White Genocide project. Using homosexuality to destroy the institution of marriage (what’s left of it) is one of their latest ploys.
Forget about the Constitution and rule of law as we understand it. Big money, 3rd world immigration and hatred of our race have scrapped all that a long time ago. You Southerners are right about secession but if you think you can pull it off without non Southern support and sympathy good luck. An island of White in a sea of anti-Whitism? You know what happened to SA and Rhodesia.
JT, there’s a lot of people from all kinds of ethnic backgrounds and walks of life that are responsible for these obscenities. The Jews stand out because of their religious and cultural beliefs, and their prominence in business, but they’re a small minority. If it wasn’t for the favors granted to them by the ruling elite in this country years ago, they would have still been selling second hand goods and picking rags to this day. When they lose the favor of the ruling elite, out they will go!