Political Ideology By State and County

October 19, 2020 Hunter Wallace 2020 Election, Conservatism, donald trump, Politics, Populists 38

The ground has shifted since 2016:

Ben Shapiro is on the Trump Train.

I got off the Trump Train in early 2017.

I’m in the dead center of the electorate. Make of that what you will.

This is Ben Shapiro’s ideology:

This is MAGA’s ideology:

I’m not a rightwing populist.

I’m more of a moderate populist: a Huey Long or George Wallace Democrat.

My county is populist.

My state is rightwing populist.

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  1. I think there’s a localized problem for Biden in Pennsylvannia. Thom Wolf and Rachel Levine are assets for Trump.

    • Correct, here in central PA I have seen double the amount of Trump Pence 2020 flags etc… on homes and pickup trucks than in 2016.

      This is however in small towns and the sticks, not suburban Pittsburgh/Philly.

      • The national and international press is keeping a tight lid on the problem that is Rachel Levine.

        • The Soros backed Democrat DA Josh Shapiro, is up for re-election. This may help Trump as well since Philly, has gone wild with crime and no seriously law enforcement stopping it, or at lest fully prosecuting it.

          Tom Wolf, MR Levine, and Shapiro all belong to the sane (((tribe)))

          First Presidential election for me where I could care less who wins!

      • I pretty much would have agreed about Minne-SNOW-ta, back when I lived there. It does look like a Liberal, Stupid Social Democrat state. But remember…. in 2016 Trump ALMOST won the state… and what has happened since then?

        – Keith Ellison has made a name for N-words, since running AS A MUSLIM, and now is AG.
        – the WHORE of Mogadishu is now a REPRESENTATIVE of the United Snakes:
        “Ilhan Abdullahi Omar is an American politician serving as the U.S. Representative for Minnesota’s 5th congressional district since 2019. She is the first Somali American, the first naturalized citizen of African birth, and the first woman of color to represent Minnesota in the United States Congress.”
        – George Floyd was caught in a felony, and was on massive drugs, and died from his own perverseness and general stupidity… and the entire area WHERE OMAR IS REPRESENTING MINNESOTANS…. is where the riots, mayhem, and anarchy were centered! Hmmmm…. Because, WHICH RACE IS TO BLAME for this entire last NINE MONTHS of anarchy? N-words. (and Jews)

        Now, it’s pretty much a given:
        – Minnesotans are stupid (and ‘Swedes Stink’ – WLOL shock jock talk radio, 1960’s)….
        But they’re not THAT stupid. Oh, some of them are… most of my former friends.
        But that’s only a small minority of selbsthäßliche Weiße Männer….

        Besides, you quote just ONE twitter idiot, HW. How is that comprehensive journalism?

  2. “I’m more of a moderate populist”:

    I’m more of a socialist populist (though not Marxist or Trotskyite). Like it is said that “a realist is an optimist with experience,” many a socialist is a right-libertarian capitalist believer WITH EXPERIENCE.

  3. I finally realized that all political issues are proxies for immigration.

    If someone is against more immigration to America, for whatever reason, I can work with that person and I would be willing to join a coalition with such people.

    If someone is pro-immigration, they are the enemy, straight up, and there is no compromise possible.

    All of the other issues will mostly split on the same axis as immigration.

    Because people that are pro-immigration are that way for a reason, and it always boils down to an attack on the actual people of America.

    • @Banned Hipster…

      I totally agree with your synopsis.

      For me, immigration is far and away the largest issue, and I say that as a lifetime environmentalist, but, of course, as you will be quick to think – your human circumstance, and or tribal, is most certainly, ‘environmental’.

      As a Tarheel, who lives in one of the oldest towns of our state, and whose ante-bellum mansion in the historic district is completely surrounded by African, East Indian, Oriental, and Latins immigrants of every stripe, not to mention Southern Negroes, I see my home being destroyed, just as was my childhood home of Raleigh, by the continued stroke of a pen and by White Southern submissiveness.

      I left Raleigh in the mid-1990s to get away from this, and, after living a dozen years in New England, my wife and I very carefully picked the most unappealing (to non-Southerners) part of our state to return to, and, yet, the invasion that overtook the major cities of The Rip Van Winkle State has followed us here!

      I keep wondering to myself : since when did Southerners think it alright to be a hotel for every Tom, Dick, and Harry in the dadburn world?

    • @Banned Hipster…

      I totally agree with your synopsis.

      For me, immigration is far and away the largest issue, and I say that as a lifetime environmentalist, but, of course, as you will be quick to think – your human circumstance, and or tribal, is most certainly, ‘environmental’.

      As a Tarheel, who lives in one of the oldest towns of our state, and whose ante-bellum mansion in the historic district is completely surrounded by African, East Indian, Oriental, and Latins immigrants of every stripe, not to mention Southern Negroes, I see my home being destroyed, just as was my childhood home of Raleigh, by the continued stroke of a pen and by White Southern submissiveness.

      I left Raleigh in the mid-1990s to get away from this, and, after living a dozen years in New England, my wife and I very carefully picked the most unappealing (to non-Southerners) part of our state to return to, and, yet, the invasion that overtook the major cities of The Rip Van Winkle State has followed us here!

      I keep wondering to myself : since when did Southerners think it alright to be a hotel for every Tom, Dick, and Harry in the dadgum world?

  5. I have a Catholic “friend” who is anti-abortion with zero exceptions. Apparently, his god intends that the genes of rapists and incestuous molesters are perpetuated.

    • Just ask one of these rigid anti-abortion people how many more of Hillary Clinton’s proverbial “super predators” would be stalking among us if abortion were categorically halted in America.

  6. In Mpls., St. Paul, and various suburbs, I’ve yet to see a single Trump sign, and few Recuck ones. On the map, the suburban counties I’ve been in are listed as Liberal and Social Democratic. The area’s congressional and state legislative districts have gone left in the last four years, so that’s not surprising.

    Guidarini’s definitions of populism have a lot of crossover, so he’s splitting ideological hairs, imo. As there’s no room for socially right positions in the Dem uniparty wing, he’s probably correct that more populists will drift into the Recucks. As neither party is actually involved in the economic protection of the voters, though — whether it’s through immigration halting/restriction, bolstering of social service nets or in any other way to speak of — populists still have no political home. It’s fitting that in this insane time, the majority of the electorate has no representation.

  7. Ben Shapp is the guy who said Trumps thingy was not big enough to be president. And wanted convention delegates to withhold their votes until Ben had an opportunity to inspect and measure.

    • No vaccine will be widely available until at least the middle of next year (I’m not implying that I think a really effective and safe vaccine will be developed for this disease) but the inevitable exponential rise in cases (due to the careless “re-opening” and other carelessness) will begin in the U.S. in about one week, and the exponential rise in deaths, and ensuing social and economic chaos, will follow about four weeks later, shortly after the election. We can choose to ignore this reality, for now, but it will NOT ignore us.

      • I should have added: The CDC just reported about 300,000 excess deaths (more than the normal average) in the U.S. so far this year, more proof that the pandemic is real. Flutards (pandemic deniers) will have a hard time twisting that, since they have often claimed only substantial excess deaths would prove that there is something different going on than just a normal flu season.

        • “The CDC just reported…”. All I hear from Assholes like you when you prate on and on, and on, and on and on, is the Cowardly lion in Wizard of Oz, saying, “I do believe in spooks, I do believe in spooks.”

          The sooner this charade is disposed of (like the damn masks as the tampons of mental conformity) the better.

          • Russian Orthodox Father Sergei “wields influence as an ultra-conservative spiritual advisor to State Duma Deputy Natalia Poklonskaya and mobster Timur Sverdlovsky (a member of the so-called ‘thieves in law’). Before donning the cloth, Father Sergii (then known as Nikolai Romanov) served time for murder and robbery (…) At the end of May, Father Sergii was banned from service because of his radical opinions about the coronavirus pandemic (…) Sergii claims that the coronavirus is nonexistent and advocated “going out to the streets, not fearing the police (…) In his opinion, Russians are ‘illegally imprisoned in self-isolation’ (by pandemic public health restrictions) and that they will be given ‘vaccines with a microchip,’ which ‘will be deadly for the masses,’ claiming that this will be run by ‘artificial intelligence without pity or compassion.’ On June 16, a week before church and secular courts meet to examine administrative charges against him (…) he returned to the Sredneuralsk Women’s Monastery (a convent that he founded), accompanied by several supporters (…) The monastery is now under Father Sergii’s complete control. On June 17, it hosted a crowded service (parishioners did not maintain the recommended social distance of 1.5 meters, or 5 feet). Despite the fact that the diocese had deprived Father Sergii of the right to perform the sacrament, he still held a liturgy and performed an exorcism (…) and recounted claims that an FSB officer had been miraculously healed of stage-three cancer (Meanwhile) a group of Cossacks (including some who fought in eastern Ukraine) is guarding the premises (…) on duty at the monastery around-the-clock (…) dressed in identical black t-shirts and claiming to be ‘parishioners’ or monastic recruits at the nunnery”: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/06/18/fighting-the-satanic-regime

      • The mortality rate is well below one percent except for the elderly who have multiple comorbidities. The official number of deaths is grossly inflated, the real number in the US being around 10,000, the vast majority of whom, again, being elderly and suffering from multiple comorbidities. Anyone still talking up this crap is either a sucker with a hard-on for Greta Thunberg a liar. Take off your face diaper and act like a grown man.

        • “the vast majority of whom, again, being elderly and suffering from multiple comorbidities”:

          About one third of the adult population has one or more “underlying conditions” (that didn’t kill them yet, when Covid does) and nearly a quarter of the population is “old” (synonymous with worthless). But wait till a new disease comes along that kills young people, and infants. That would be a REAL disease, wouldn’t it? Capitalism is the opposite of socialism: concerned only with accumulating and protecting private wealth and extracting the most wealth possible from others, especially the poor/working class, using any means. The policy of “letting herd immunity develop” – letting surplus working people and worthless disabled and old people become infected and die off – is very good for the bottom lines of the ruling elites. , ,

          • The mortality rate of COVID is less than a quarter of percent and that includes all ages. And yes, as the other poster has accurately mentioned, the overwhelmingly majority of deaths are those who are 75 or older with the mean around 80. Many of these people have a serious underlying medical condition and/or are obese. Perhaps we should be more concerned with how the United States leads the world in obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and several of other chronic conditions. The obesity rate in the United States is currently around 36.5 percent, which is the highest in the world with only Australia at 16 percent being the other country above 10 percent. Perhaps Americans should start practicing more ascetic lifestyles and can start by ditching their TV, fast food, and alcohol. Lastly, the United States has the most drugged up population in the world, and it is time that we reject Big Pharma and more start practicing natural and holistic health. Vaccines are unnatural, a cocktail of toxic chemicals, a form of control, and are unorthodox as many include recycled fetal tissue.

      • Though still off topic, this is so interesting, from our regional agricultural weekly newspaper, Lancaster Farming: As in Denmark where mink farms have been devastated by Covid-19, now in the U.S. thousands of minks have died of Covid-19, about 8,000 so far in the state of Utah, having caught the disease from humans. Source: “Thousands of Minks Dead in Covid-19 Outbreaks on Farms,” Lancaster Farming, Oct. 17, 2020 We knew that the civets and the entire cat family are susceptible, but I didn’t think it was deadly for them as it is for older humans. So how can these Alt-right pundits still claim that the pandemic doesn’t even exist? Do they think the mink farmers are also being fooled?

        Now, back ON the subject of your post: This county is one of the three or four “reddest”, most conservative Republican counties in this state, and this county and one adjoining it gave Trump the highest percentage of the vote in this state in 2016. Trump signs and yard and porch displays are everywhere, even more than in 2016, even on business properties which normally avoid political signage because it could offend some of their customers but not this year. I have seen very few “Kamala-Biden” signs, mostly stuck in around electric poles and on road aprons, not in people’s yards, and some of the Kamala-Biden signs I noticed were apparently vandalized, pushed or driven over and crumpled in ditches along roads, one spray-painted over with red paint. I did not see any Trump signs damaged or leaning over. For the first time in many election cycles I have not seen any “third party” signs around here.

  9. Trump never even purged all the people within his administration subverting him. I’m convinced he has people in his campaign deliberately wasting all the funds on mailings. I must have gotten 3 letters a day for at least two months asking for money, how much did that cost to print up and mail out? Why would so many letters be mailed?

  10. @Mr. Griffin …

    “I’m not a right-wing populist. I’m more of a moderate populist: a Huey Long or George Wallace Democrat.”

    The traditional Southern word for that, Sir, is ‘Dixiecrat’.

    You’re a Dixiecrat.

    • @Ivan

      I’ve been calling HW a “Dixiecrat” since forever, and myself too.

      First they took my Dukes of Hazzard flag now they are taking my Dixie Chicks? I won’t have it!

      • @Banned Hipster…

        Good to have the affirmation from you. I guess that makes three of us.

        What makes us a little peculiar is that we seem to be a kind of Dixiecrat that is much more appropriate for the 1940s than today.

        Be that as it may be, we still are Dixiecrats.

        Unfortunately, we, as you well know, no longer have a party.

        By the way, I read your latest article on your childhood and your observations and memories of that group of folks that raised you.

        It was very interesting.

        Thank you!

  11. My county is also populist. Like a lot of places, I believe it was democrat up until the 90s shift. Democrats still do fairly well on the local level here. And frankly the local democrats are a lot better because they prevent republicans from rezoning all of the low density rural areas to build more mcmansions, strip malls, and dollar generals. It would be interesting to see if the breakdown of the alt-right into (generally) the amnat and the populist camps falls along similar geographical lines.

    I remember amnats always saying they need to do this or that to appeal to the normies, and my thought was always “what normies are you even talking about? Where are these normies who want this stuff?” Seems obvious that location would have a big impact on a person’s idea of what “normie” refers to. My hypothesis is the amnats would be from areas with standard conservative or with right wing populist populations, though the difference between these two categories is overstated if you look beyond rhetoric. The alleged “rw populists” like Hawley (and Trump) are populist in the streets, conservative in the sheets. They can talk a populist game, but when it comes time for policy it’s standard chamber of commerce fare.

  12. The Twitter maps embedded in this piece indicate that my county and my state are both “right wing populist”. I would consider myself “far right” on most legal and social issues, though my economic position is hard to pigeonhole in modern terms. I guess I may personally be as close to right wing populist as anything else.

    • If i may take the liberty sir, i beg to differ sir. The usa is still the best place in this world, if for no other reason than this and i quote” thats where kentucky is”, so that being said sir, fry yourself some chicken, bake some cornbread, thank the lord and have yourself a nice day.

  14. You really got a great Article / Post on this one. I’m probably studied Political Ideology more than anything else in Life. I’ve took countless Political Quizes over and over again. Sometimes my views evolve with what’s going on. I think the problem people have in Politics is everybody takes a Political Quiz and is all about scoring as an extremist. That can be a Right Wing Extremist, Left Wing Extremist, Libertarian Extremist, Communist, Socialist, and so on. However everybody that knows Politics and History knows that you govern / get things done in the Middle. That being governing as a Moderate…one direction or another. It’s really how you deal with things and solve problems. We can look at 2020 and see exactly what political extremism has done….it’s made this country more divided than ever and NOTHING is getting done on anything. We’re in a Covid-19 World Pandemic and Democrats are all about Masks because the left don’t trust Trump. However the Right Wing is literally protesting even the thought of wearing a Mask. People in my State get more mad about the Mask Mandates than our State Flag being changed. It’s pathetic and I’ve lost respect for many people because of that. The maps are really great. My county (Prentiss County, Mississippi) looks like it’s Right Wing Populist. I agree with that because my County and the surrounding counties have been government by Democrats for many years. However that’s been changing slowly the last 5 years or so. I think it’s great that Right Wing Populism is used because it shows that my people haven’t jumped off the far right wing cliff and might be Right Wing but have Populist views that might be more Democratic in nature years ago. I do like the idea of being a Moderate Populist and it seems that anybody that’s really studied things and believes in practical solutions will land on that point. This year I’ve been scoring as a Bigger Government Centrist / Moderate on political quizes. I use the ideology of “Nationalism” in all my posts / my personal life because I think the greater focus of Nationalism means doing what’s right for White Americans. I think with things like Nationalism it’s not just about defending our people against the foreign enemy / securing our borders but it’s doing what’s right for our people on domestic issues. We know from Politics that Individualism has destroyed our People and nothing will get done until our People stop acting like that / stop being selfish. We should look at things from a God, Family, Race, and Nation perspective. Do what’s right for all of us. Deo Vindice !

    • @Brian Pace…

      You’re a Southern Klansman, Dear Brian, and you don’t need to take any political quizzes for that.

      As you know : almost all Klansmen that have ever lived have been Dixiecrats, though, nowadays, ironically, most wind up voting for the party of those antithetical to The South – The Republicans.

  15. I don’t think Trump realized he has to earn the White working class vote. He thinks he is entitled to it just because he markets himself as a populist.

    After Trump promised half a trillion dollars to Blacks, I just couldn’t take him seriously anymore.

    Trump needs to listen to Steven Miller instead of Jared Kushner.

    I never trusted Bannon, he brought us Milo and promotes ideology similar to the Proud Boys, enough said.

    I never trusted Jeff Sessions either because he wouldn’t put the Russia hoax to rest, he just let it foment into impeachment for no apparent reason other than he didn’t care or didn’t have the balls to address it.

    I am far too demoralized to vote for Trump because of this platinum plan. Trump has been compromised.

    I don’t see the Trump administration as salvageable after this platinum plan, who is there besides Steven Miller to sway the president to stick to his original America First agenda?

    • @Gryphon’s Ferocity…

      Yes, Stephen Miller is there, in charge of Immigration policy, or so I hear.

      Thank God for that, for, say what you want about his blood, Mr. Miller takes a dim view of flooding America with non-Whites.

      He’s passionate about that, unlike his boss who, outside of campaign speeches, seems as if he could care less.

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