I’m torn on this.
My views can summed up as follows:
1. War is terrible. I’ve always been antiwar. We also know from experience that the worst kind of war is devastating wars between Europeans. The World Wars were blamed on nationalism and racialism. The most important lesson we should take from the 20th century is to never again let ourselves be blindly led into a devastating global war which can have all sorts of unforeseen consequences.
2. I don’t support imperialism. I don’t see any inconsistency here though because Russia has always been an autocratic empire. I’m not interested in changing Russia. I only want to change my own country. I don’t want my own country to be an Empire with satellites on Russia’s borders.
3. Putin is largely correct about NATO expansion, the 2014 coup in Ukraine and flooding Ukraine with weapons. While American presidents come and go, the Blob pursues the same foreign policy. The Blob kept us in Afghanistan for twenty years. It was the Obama administration which engineered the color revolution in Ukraine. It was Trump who armed Ukraine with Javelin anti-tank missiles.
4. Ukraine is a puppet state and a NATO satellite that is run out of the State Department. Americans have been arming and training the Ukrainian army.
5. Zelensky, the Jewish president of Ukraine, has refused to stop taking these weapons and to rule out NATO membership. He laughed off the prospect of a Russian invasion. It was bizarre.
6. Ukraine could have remained neutral like Finland. The government of Ukraine chose this disastrous course.
7. Putin is correct that modern Ukraine isn’t a real country. Much of Western Ukraine has historically been more closely linked to Poland and Hungary while Eastern Ukraine has been part of Russia. At the same time, we shouldn’t pretend that Russia is any different. Russia is composed of all kinds of ethnic groups. It has the largest Muslim population in Europe. Russia isn’t an ethnostate. Should Kaliningrad (formerly Königsberg, Immanuel Kant’s city) be returned to Germany?
8. Putin’s goal is obviously to restore the Russian empire and for Russia to be a great power that has its own sphere of influence. He talked at length in his speech about how modern Ukraine came into existence. This isn’t just about Zelensky and NATO expansion although that is part of it.
9. In both of his speeches, Putin spent most of his time condemning nationalists and separatists in Ukraine and how irresponsible it was of the Soviet Union to allow its constituent republics to separate. It will suffice to say that Putin doesn’t believe in states rights. He is preserving the Union.
10. While it is a crude analogy, Putin is really in the role of Lincoln here trying to restore the Russian empire. It is the Ukrainians who are fighting against overwhelming odds to defend their country. Thus, it is hardly surprising that there is so much sympathy for them. Most Americans look at this on television and all they see and all they know because no context is presented on television is that Putin has invaded Ukraine and is trying to bully and crush these people to get his way.
11. Finally, when you see bombs falling on White kids in apartment buildings and millions of White people becoming refugees and a much larger state trying to crush a smaller state, it is difficult not to sympathize with their plight. So, I totally understand the way that normies are looking at this and reacting to this who don’t even know what I know about this dispute. I’m not against the Ukrainians.
12. Nick Fuentes thinks this is awesome. There is nothing awesome about this. This isn’t a video game. This is one of the worst things that has happened in years on so many levels.
13. It is a tragedy that it has come to this. Ukraine could easily become another Syria, Iraq or Libya with Russian forces bogged down in a Western-backed insurgency that goes on for years. As many have pointed out, it is a huge gamble. The bottom line is that this should have been avoided and all three parties (NATO, Russia, Ukraine) bear some level of responsibility for the outbreak of violence.
TAC:
“When Russia’s Vladimir Putin demanded that the U.S. rule out Ukraine as a future member of the NATO alliance, the U.S. archly replied: NATO has an open-door policy. Any nation, including Ukraine, may apply for membership and be admitted. We’re not changing that.
In the Bucharest declaration of 2008, NATO had put Ukraine and Georgia, ever farther east in the Caucasus, on a path to membership in NATO and coverage under Article 5 of the treaty, which declares that an attack on any one member is an attack on all.
Unable to get a satisfactory answer to his demand, Putin invaded and settled the issue. Neither Ukraine nor Georgia will become members of NATO. Russia resolved that it would go to war to prevent that from happening, just as it did on Thursday.
Putin did exactly what he warned us he would do.
Whatever the character of the Russian president, now being hotly debated here in the USA, he has established his credibility. When Putin warns he will do something, he follows through.
Days into this Russia-Ukraine war, potentially the worst in Europe since 1945, two questions need to be answered: How did we get here? And where do we go from here?
How did we get to a place where Russia—believing its back is against a wall and the United States, by moving NATO ever closer to Russia’s borders, put it there—reached a point where it chose war with Ukraine rather than accept the fate and future it believed the West had in store for Mother Russia? …”
Pat Buchanan, of course, is right as always.
We don’t have any democratic control over the Blob or the foreign policy establishment. It is constantly engineering these devastating conflicts. Ukraine is only the latest example.
Those Ukraine civilian fights have some very nice uniforms and some mighty fine rifles. How hard would it be for US military or US mercenaries to augment the “civilian fighters”? These people, these Jews and Irishmen are inching us towards disaster. Just remember who.
Tell me, why do you have such a bug up your ass about the Irish? Is it guilt over the theft of Irish food stolen by the Brits in the middle of the 19th Century that drives you to this defensive hate? Is it that Irish are better looking than most Brits? Is it because the Irish are Catholics and protestants just can’t detach themselves from jews? Seems a bit odd to hate a people who have been ground down by protestants and jews for centuries.
Putin has to bring those responsible for the slaughter in Donbass…look no further than Kiev…..I support the invasion of Ukraine.
Go look at the photo of the pregnant dead young Orthodox Christian Christian Mother-Donbass 2014:her fetus blown out of her womb-umbilical cord attached-everyone in Russia saw this photo. No self-respecting Slavic Russian Man would allow this to go unpunished. Putin gave Western Ukraine 8 f…..g years to agree to the Minsk Accords…and a no NATO membership written statement. And your sobbing about the invasion of Western Ukraine. Russia is a mighty Slavic Power getting stronger with more Iskander Missiles ever year.
Russia will never be Hillary and Bill Clinton’s bitch ever again…And this is why Western Ukraine had to be invaded and pacified….
Pedro Gonzales made a very very strong statement last night on Tucker explaining why Putin had to invade Western Ukraine….
Well said Patrick
As any self-respecting man,leader and soldier Putin must stop this threat against his motherland before it takes him down, a end game that always have been high priority for the puritan scum on the Potomac along with their papist/judeo friends
That people can not see who is in the right here still baffle me but i guess i should stop being surprised by now
This madness deranged clownworld must end now and if it takes a Third world war to do it it is the will of God and not man
The Lord have chosen his hand and this time he picked Russia, Merica is next because HIS day is coming! Degeneration and sodomy to this level never seen before in human history will not stand for long
I am however sad to see faggotry fighting sanity to the last Ukrainian
But we should still rejoice, his is the beginning of the end of Globohomo
Ukrainians aren’t fighting for their country. They’re fighting to be within the western sphere of influence so they can be flooded with infinity Africans and their kids can have their nuts cut off and be injected with hormones. I have as much sympathy for Ukraine soldiers that fight to destroy their own people as I do for American or European soldiers who fight for the same. None.
There is no “Ukraine nationalism” option because Ukraine doesn’t have any capability to ever function as an independent state. Ukraine has no resources except for agriculture. It has no natural defenses like mountains. Just one giant plain that is the easiest thing in the world for anyone to conquer. Even back in the days when nation-states were still relevant, Ukraine was not relevant. The “nation-stateism for everyone” idealism is absurd. The game theory of it simply does not work out, and Ukraine especially is not suited to ever be a nation-state.
Ukraine only has two real options. Exist as a client state of the west or as a client state of the east. Choosing to become a client of the west is choosing guaranteed destruction for their people.
Prediction:Concert for Ukraine at Madison Square Garden…Bruce Springsteen headliner…coming up….
America is a f…..g toilet bowl….I hope SEC Tyrone Ball was worth it….Roll Toilet Bowl!!!!
Putin is not going to let the Ukraine turn into another protracted Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. He knows what he is doing. And unlike the Americans and Zionists, who go out of their way to inflict maximum destruction, the Russians are doing everything they can to minimize damage to property and loss of life. The international community supports Putin’s actions and so do I.
American’s need to be resolute in not getting involved and to not fall victim to the endless propaganda. Bloated rogue unaccountable psychopathic establishments in the federal government have the blood on their hands. We desperately need to find ways to reign in, defund, and imprison these scumbags before they get us all killed or impoverished at the very least.
Go Russia!
Whatever the character of the Russian president, now being hotly debated here in the USA, he has established his credibility. When Putin warns he will do something, he follows through.
Good for Putin. He stood up to this godless homosexual degenerate Satan-worshiping Yankee Empire that deserves to be nuked off the face of this earth. You know the one that destroyed the South 160 years ago over money and fear of losing its superior economy, and to this day is still destroying us by siccing minorities on us disguised as civil rights.
Putin along with China could do us a favor and destroy this anti-God Yankee Empire by nuking every major city/industrial/population/military center/complex in the North sorta like Sherman and the Yankee army did to us.
PARTIAL list of CIVILIAN OCCUPIED towns burned by the Yankee army, culled from the Official Records.
Osceola, Missouri, burned to the ground, September 24, 1861
Dayton, Missouri, burned, January 1 to 3, 1862
Columbus, Missouri, burned, reported on January 13, 1862
Bentonville, Arkansas, partly burned, February 23, 1862
Winton, North Carolina, burned, reported on February 21, 1862
Bluffton, South Carolina, burned, reported June 6, 1863
Bledsoe’s Landing, Arkansas, burned, October 21, 1862
Hamblin’s, Arkansas, burned, October 21, 1862
Donaldsonville, Louisiana, partly burned, August 10, 1862
And then there was the sack and pillage of Athens, Alabama, on June 30, 1862, by Colonel Turchin’s men, who committed rapes and other atrocities on the inhabitants. Turchin was subsequently court-martialed and put out of the military. What happened next? Turchin was rewarded by lincoln, was promoted to Brigadier General and put back in the military.
Athens, Alabama, partly burned, August 30, 1862
Randolph, Tennessee, burned, September 26, 1862
Elm Grove and Hopefield, Arkansas, burned, October 18, 1862
Napoleon, Arkansas, partly burned, January 17, 1863
Mound City, Arkansas, partly burned, January 13, 1863
Hopefield, Arkansas, burned, February 21, 1863
Eunice, Arkansas, burned, June 14, 1863
Gaines Landing, Arkansas, burned, June 15, 1863
Sibley, Missouri, burned June 28, 1863
Hernando, Mississippi, partly burned, April 21, 1863
Austin, Mississippi, burned, May 23, 1863
Columbus, Tennessee, burned, reported February 10, 1864
Meridian, Mississippi, destroyed, February 3 to March 6, 1864
“For 5 days 10,000 men worked hard and with a will…with axes, crowbars, sledges, clawbars, and with fire, and I have no hesitation in pronouncing the work as well done. Meridian, with its depots, store-houses, arsenal, hospitals, offices, hotels, and cantonments no longer exists.” — w.t.sherman
Washington, North Carolina, sacked and burned, April 20, 1864
Hallowell’s Landing, Alabama, burned, reported May 14, 1864
Newtown, Virginia, ordered to be burned, ordered May 30, 1864
Virginia Military Institute, Lexington, Virginia, burned, June 12, 1864
Camden Point, Missouri, burned, July 14, 1864
Kendal’s Grist-Mill, Arkansas, burned, September 3, 1864
Shenandoah Valley, devastated, reported October 1, 1864 by sheridan
Rome, Georgia, partly burned, November 11, 1864
Atlanta, Georgia, burned, November 15, 1864
Griswoldville, Georgia, burned, November 21, 1864
Somerville, Alabama, burned, January 17, 1865
McPhersonville, South Carolina, burned, January 30, 1865
Barnwell, South Carolina, burned, reported February 9, 1865
Columbia, South Carolina, burned, reported February 17, 1865
Winnsborough, South Carolina, pillaged and partly burned, February 21, 1865
Tuscaloosa, Alabama, burned, April 4, 1865
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Secede now!
May God Save the South!
Amen.I say the U.S. can rot.It is an evil entity that God despises.Long live the C.S.A.
Whatever happens it’s not our war. It’s there sphere of the world, let them settle it.
It is our war. Our elites are the ones that installed the current Shlomo.
No Putin is not a ‘Lincoln’ re Ukraine. In 2014 he came close to recognising Donbass independence, on the basis of the referenda held there … Putin explicitly said that people need to freely vote on whether they should stay or go within a given country, and they voted. He should have rolled his eagerly-invited tanks back into Donbass then … but Putin listened to the bad advisors who said, ‘Oh no sanctions will be much worse, just leave it fester for a while …’
The Russians in Donbass have been continually under attack and bombardment for 8 years since then … Putin had no choice. Putin’s historical point is that Ukraine was artificially too big, incorporating Russian, Polish and Hungarian areas … not that core Ukraine doesn’t have its rights to be a country.
Putin and Russia do have bad karma from not letting the Chechens go back in the 1990s, they had a right to secede like Ukraine, but the oil and gas income was key to Russian survival … so 100,000 Chechens died. And now Chechens are going in to kill white Ukrainians … and stories are that some of them are already raping white Christian Ukrainian women.
Am not optimistic about how this plays out. Russia gets cancelled from SWIFT, has its assets abroad seized … Russia seizes assets of hostile countries, cuts off the gas to Europe … Chaos and poverty everywhere, and in the end it may be the Soros – Schwab globohomo ‘You will own nothing …’ crew in charge. Foolish Poland and Hungary do not realise that it is Russia which has been giving them a little breathing room re LGBT and migrants and opposing Soros.
This is all due to the insufferable arrogance & aggression of the kikes, the MIC & their filthy whores in DC. They thought that they were the unique Hyperpower who could shove anyone in the world around without ever facing any consequences. Well, Putin has just proved them dead wrong. He’s exposed the fucking scum as a swaggering, loudmouthed paper tiger who can do nothing but scream & impose some more useless sanctions when their willing dupes get invaded by a serious leader bound & determined to defend his country.
Intransigent kike Zelensky acted like the Polacks did toward Germany after they were given the worthless “guarantee” by the Brits, so now he pays the same price.
GOOD. I would dearly love to see the kike rat tearfully begging for his life before being chopped up by vengeful Russians.
Putin’s definitely not “one of us”, but at least he’s doing his part to put a cold stop to (((Globohomo))). If only he’d hit DC, jew Yawk & Hymiewitz with neutron bombs, my joy would be complete.
@NBF – Your joy will not be complete, when the result will be the country that YOU live in is collapsed into ruins. Starvation, disease, brutal violence, and painful death is not the desire of any healthy being. No sane human — not even the most basic life form — wants its own destruction. Unless it is very, very sick.
I think there is a desperate and fantastical belief by some that anything would be better than this unnatural abomination that is currently attempting to ethnically cleanse us and our ancestors, all while making us pay for the whole evil process.
@ Old Enough To Be Your Mother
I specified NEUTRON bombs for a reason: they supposedly don’t destroy vital infrastructure, only humans. A city hit with one could begin to be repopulated in a couple of weeks after the radiation dissipated.
Would I love to see every god damned kike, faggot, nigger thug & shitlib race traitor deader than hell in their coastal nests? Oh yes, I would. Because they’re literally killing us, right now, with far more insidious means.
And they’re the ones responsible for all this madness with Russia that may well turn the entire fucking world into a charcoal brickette. If, somehow, they could be the only ones to die in agony in a nuclear strike, it would be the most delicious cosmic justice.
@ Tikkun Olam is coming for You
Dream the impossible dream.