Two Tracks of Anti-Zionism

I’m just going to say it.

I am increasingly aggravated with “anti-Zionists.”

The funny thing about it is that it has nothing to do with Jews or Israel. I have written 26 pages of articles about the Jewish Question on this website over the span of 16 years. There are 11 pages of articles on Israel. Pretty much everything that I have ever written about the topic is negative.

Since the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7th, Israel has descended to new depths with its genocide in Gaza. I spent a month here posting gore videos of Israeli atrocities in Gaza which I tagged as “Israel At War” until it got so bad that I just couldn’t watch it anymore. I spent much of the year ridiculing House Speaker Mike Johnson for being such an over the top, obsequious stooge of AIPAC. Most Americans have a more negative view of Israel, myself included, than they did when the war started. Israel hasn’t done anything over the past year that has helped its public image even with conservatives.

In spite of this favorable shift in public opinion, activists have somehow seized the opportunity to transform Israel and anti-Zionism into a divisive issue. There used to be a soft “anti-Zionist” consensus in our circles that AIPAC and wealthy Jewish donors have corrupted our politics and no one likes or supports Israel. At the same time, the consensus was that it was equally important that we cared about a host of other issues like race, heritage preservation, nationalism, trade, free speech, the economy and so on. “Anti-Zionism” was part of this mix, but it was far from being the only thing or the most important concern. After all, there are lot of things that are important in the world beyond our view of Israel / Palestine like racial demographic change, cultural decline and our anti-White liberal elites.

This is the crux of the matter.

Over the past year, some activists have decided that Israel / Palestine is the most important issue, the only issue of any importance and that nothing else matters. They have rebranded their cause as “antisemitism.” I’m not making this up. I’ve seen lots of people embrace this label to emphasize that what they are about now is just straight up monomania about Israel and the Jewish Question. They are full time, professional “anti-Zionists” who are focused entirely on foreign policy and Israel.

In the case of Nick Fuentes and the Groypers, the shift to “antisemitism” meant building a multiracial anti-Zionist movement that was allied to black and Muslim social media influencers like Sneako and Sulaiman Ahmed. When riots broke out in the UK after the Labour victory this summer, Fuentes was defending the Muslims in Rotherham and attacking remigration activists like Steve Laws because of “anti-Zionism.” He spent the entire 2024 election attacking Donald Trump and cheering on and all but endorsing Kamala Harris. He ultimately said that it would have been better for Kamala Harris to win.

In the case of TRS, I watched that whole crowd go even further around the bend than Fuentes because of “anti-Zionism.” I was only dimly aware of this until recently. I had heard in our comments that TRS was focused on attacking rural Whites these days. Today, virtually every episode of TRS is about shitting on Trump supporters, “Rightoids,” “Whiteoids,” “Christoids,” creekshitters, bumpkins, etc. Mike and Jesse voted for Kamala Harris solely to own the Rightoids. I’ve watched as Mike has started wearing Hezbollah gear on his show. There was a funny moment on X shortly before Jesse was banned when he had parked at a Texas Roadhouse in Pennsylvania, put up a Palestinian window shield in his SUV and tweeted out “Death to America, Free Palestine.” The show now seems entirely focused on Palestinian advocacy.

There are other activists like Lucas Gage who have devoted themselves to this. Gage appears to have suffered a mental breakdown after slashing an Israeli flag with a Roman gladius in his backyard in a viral video posted on social media. He made videos about how his wife had left him after he caught her in bed with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach’s nephew. He was banned from X and sent back to Rumble and Telegram. I’m not sure what he is doing now, but he cracked his mind like an egg on “anti-Zionism.”

Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has exacerbated the divide between “antisemitism” and “anti-Zionism” or whatever it is this camp is calling itself and other pro-White activists who supported Trump. Since he first arrived on the political scene in 2015, Donald Trump has always been a “Zionist” and “pro-Israel,” but he is also an immigration restrictionist, a trade protectionist, promises a less bellicose foreign policy, a less anti-White federal government, a better economy with less inflation, protection of gun rights, less censorship and so on. There was a lot to like about Trump’s 2024 campaign which is why a lot of people supported him who dislike Israel, but who are more motivated by issues like demographic change.

My problem with “antisemitism” or “anti-Zionism” as these activists have framed it is that it is politically incompatible with all other issues. Their position is that everyone should either 1.) vote for Democrats like Kamala Harris or 2.) sit out every election until, presumably, “anti-Zionism” has triumphed. As a result of thus, “anti-Zionists” are essentially committed to politically demobilizing and marginalizing Whites for the sake of Palestinians and other foreigners. In order to oppose “Zionism,” they are willing to go along with the Democratic agenda and in some cases, actually endorse and vote for it, on demographic replacement, anti-White discrimination, amnesty for illegal aliens, changing election laws, gun rights, censorship, the economy, and so forth. What’s even worse than that is that some “anti-Zionists” are so angry with ordinary White people for not being obsessed with Israel that their politics have become pure spite.

None of this is necessary.

Alternatively, we could sit back and allow Israel to destroy its own public image. We could find a lot of common ground with Trump supporters while just being critical of Israel. Many of them are undoubtedly uncomfortable with the human rights abuses in Gaza. It is extremely unrealistic to expect White Americans to ever prioritize foreign policy and Israel in particular over other issues like inflation which are closer to home and eroding living standards. This more moderate position, however, is not going to fly with “anti-Zionists” given the track they are on which is likely only helpful to Israel.

If activists force people on the Right into a binary single issue choice between “anti-Zionism” and immigration or all the other issues that motivate them, they will lose all the people are outright pro-Israel. They will also lose the people who dislike Israel, but who care more about other issues, which effectively reduces support for “anti-Zionism” and further ghettoizes and marginalizes it on the Right.

Perhaps the goal though is to just get more people to listen to the show or the podcast? It is not to actually do anything about “Zionism,” but to exploit resentment over it?

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  1. I do think that when anti-zionism does become a political force, it will happen in the Democrats before it does in the Republicans. With Republicans, the base supports Zionism. With Democrats, the coronated politicians support Zionism while the base opposes it. I’d bet that the first anti-Zionist candidate to make a serious run at it will be in the Democratic Party. You can argue that Sanders is already that person, as he did make a serious run at it just didn’t win. The debate isn’t whether Sanders was a serious force, but whether he is anti-Zionist enough. A lesser evil, I’d clearly say.

    I do agree, however, that there are a host of other issues and since Dems rigged the primary in 2024 (I do think Sanders legit lost in 2016 and 2020 even though I support him), it makes sense to consider those other issue since the Democratic base didn’t get a voice on Israel. However, what prevents me from saying Trump is the lesser evil is that I think the record is mixed on those issues. Like I said on X, on immigration and gun rights Trump is better (and on Trans issues). However, he’s not better on free speech if you factor in his flag burning stance and his desire to shut down anti-Zionist protests. He may be better for right wing free speech, but not free speech in general. I also don’t think he’s better on economics or healthcare.

    In the end, I decided to vote my conscious and voted Green. Both candidates are bad on foreign policy. Both have mixed records on Domestic issues. I’d rather not be associated with either candidate. But if one candidate was really awesome on domestic policies, I might have taken the position that I would vote for the lesser evil. But I didn’t see either candidate as having an across the board set of correct foreign policy positions.

    I have to say though, that if Greens took an explicit position of putting men in women’s sports, that would have been the end of my support. They didn’t, however, Butch Ware came out against it. Unfortunately the base seems to have the potential to force them into that position, just like the base fortunately is anti-Zionist on the left.

  2. Well said, even on my country the left is obsessed with Palestine and anti Israel sentiment but, as I always say, leftists care more about a foreign situation or problem than their own country problem. It’s the logic of global ism, care more about the others and don’t see your internal problem. Obviously Israel is a murderer state and Jews perceive themselves as untouchable but this doesn’t mean that we have to unit and sympathize with Muslims and anti-Israel radical left. They’re both our enemies and be sure that they will not show us mercy when the time will come. When the war will be finished, Muslims start again to call us infidel (they never stopped) and leftist to persecute us (even in this case they never really stopped).
    The error is always support the today global woke left, whatever your argument are, if you support today’s leftists you make a mistake.

  3. Your summary of Nick’s position is inaccurate.

    He didn’t vote for Trump, but that is a far cry from actually supporting Kamala’s demonic agenda.

    Nick has done good work reporting on the Thiel network which is replacing the Neocons as the dominant faction within the mainstream right.

    There is good reason to be concerned that the following will happen:
    1. The Trump administration won’t actually deport a significant percentage of illegal immigrants, given who has been appointed to key positions. Personnel is policy.
    2. The Trump administration will significantly increase legal immigration while simultaneously giving a massive financial windfall to liberal academia. He promised to “staple a green card to every diploma”.
    3. Our First Amendment rights will not be respected. Trump has promised to crack down on “Antisemitism”. His Zionists supporters use the very problematic IHRA definition of “Antisemitism”, which essentially outlaws Christianity, nationalism, race realism, nativism, isolationism, and social conservatism.
    4. The conservative point of view will lose ground on all the social issues. Compared to the Republican old guard they are replacing, Trump and his allies are social liberals.
    5. We will sink deeper into the Middle East quagmire. Trump promises to give even more support to Israel than Biden did – is that even possible?!? He promises “maximum pressure” against Iran. He claims there were no wars when he was president because he enforced “peace through strength”. It would be more accurate to say there were no NEW wars, despite his dangerously outdated “peace through strength” motto. In fact he continued or even escalated the unnecessary counterproductive regime change wars which Obama had initiated in Syria, Ukraine and Yemen.
    6. Worse, our people, white evangelicals, will be scapegoated for the crimes of the Jews. As long as Biden is president, the Jews own Israel’s crimes. All the key positions in the US government are currently held by Jews, including Chief of Staff, Secretary of State, Attorney General, Secretary of Treasury, Secretary of Homeland Security, and Senate Majority Leader. When the world sees the horrors of Gaza, they (rightly) damn Anthony Blinken and his people. All that changes in January. Jews will still be making the decisions behind the scenes, but they will no longer be the public face of US support for genocide. Mike Huckabee will be the new lightning rod attracting the undying hatred of the entire world.
    7. Worst of all, Trump’s popularity combined with his extreme Zionism will cause the heresy of “Christian Zionism” to continue to spread in our churches, endangering the eternal souls of our people.
    8. The apparatus of harassment directed against us, which was so powerful in 2020 but so weak this year, will regain its strength. Antifa, the ADL and the SPLC suffered a major decline in power this year because their traditional bases of support, including young people and Blacks, were thoroughly disgusted by the Democratic Party establishment’s support for Israel, while simultaneously impressed by the brave stand against genocide taken by Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. As soon as the Democratic Party reorients itself into its new position as the opposition party, and rebrand themselves as “moderates” opposed to the extremism of Huckabee and Trump, they will begin to regain their lost “street cred”. When that happens, repressive institutions associated with the establishment wing of the Democratic Party, including Antifa, the SPLC and the ADL, will be reinvigorated.

    If we want to avoid these dangers, we need to be realistic about their existence. This necessarily involves a critique of the Zionists who control the mainstream right, including Donald Trump himself.

    The greatest White Nationalist thinkers are currently deluding themselves into thinking that Donald Trump is just like Pat Buchanan, plus some harmless Zionism.

    It is more accurate to think of him as Sean Hannity, but a memberr of the Kushner crime family.

    We gained a point when we elected Trump and the Republicans on the basis of his promise to build the wall, deport the illegals, reduce legal immigration, and end the wars.

    Nick’s reporting helps us think about the proper strategy for holding Trump and the Republicans accountable for these promises.

    I think the answer is to frankly confront Trump for giving his primary loyalty to Israel, not America.

    But you make a good point about avoiding the excesses of TRS.

    • Nick spent the whole election cycle trying to get Kamala Harris elected, repeatedly told his followers not to vote for Trump and said on his show after the election that it would have been better if she had won. Thus, I would say he absolutely did embrace Kamala Harris and her agenda, and persuaded many of his most gullible, deluded supporters to vote for her. Many of them took pictures of their ballots and posted them to X to show they had voted for Harris.

    • Let’s go through this point by point:

      1. Trump appointed Noem to DHS, Tom Homan as border czar and put Stephen Miller in charge of immigration policy. It is too early to say how many illegal aliens will be deported under Trump, but it is simply false to suggest that his nominees reflect an unwillingness to act on mass deportations. He picked people who were experienced, loyal and indifferent to media criticism. Trump’s team has repeatedly vowed to start mass deportations on Day One in January.

      “Anti-Zionists” see no difference between Trump’s team and Alejandro Mayorkas who let in over 10 million illegal aliens into the country. What’s even worse is that after witnessing that disaster they endorsed it and were willing to let Kamala Harris let in another 10 to 20 million to make some kind of point about “Zionism” and to own Blumpf.

    • 2. “Anti-Zionists” have spread the lie that Trump is going to dramatically increase legal immigration and let in millions of Indians. Work visas like H-1Bs are capped by existing immigration law. Also, changing legal immigration levels to *increase* immigration would require Congress to reform the immigration system, which hasn’t happened in decades, doesn’t have the support required in Congress and is politically impossible because of public opinion both in Trump’s base and in the country at large. Most importantly, Trump didn’t run on increasing legal immigration. He just said that some people would immigrate which is what current law allows

    • 3. When Trump was president, our First Amendment rights were trampled by an unprecedented wave of censorship spearheaded by progressive activists all of whom supported Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. The entire Right was deplatformed and censored up to and including Trump himself and his family. The incoming FCC commissioner has vowed to use his power to destroy the censorship cartel. The people who whine about Trump censoring the internet are doing so on X, which is owned by Elon Musk, and Rumble which is also owned by people affiliated with Trump who gave them platforms after they all got banned from Twitter and YouTube.

      Trump has vowed to use the Insurrection Act to crush violent Antifa protests. Kamala Harris would have also appointed awful people to the Supreme Court and all federal courts who would have convicted our people like the January 6 protesters and limited our free speech rights in new precedents. “Anti-Zionists” were fine with that so long as they could virtue signal about Palestine

    • 4. “Anti-Zionists” who endorsed and voted for Kamala Harris embraced her agenda on all social issues … anti-White discrimination, abortion, transgenderism, etc. States like Alabama and Tennessee have very different laws on these issues than Minnesota and Massachusetts. Trump will allow and expand the ability of Red States to carve out their own social policy.

      “Anti-Zionists,” of course, were opposed to this. They were fine with and willing to endorse whatever Kamala Harris planned to do on abortion, transgenderism, anti-White discrimination in the job market just to make some kind of absurd point about Israel

    • 5. We didn’t “sink deeper” into the Middle East when Trump was president. He finished off ISIS. He negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan. There was no war with Iran. When Trump left office, the Middle East was quieter than it been in decades. Also, we were not at war with Russia, and a devastating war in Ukraine backed to by the hilt by NATO was unthinkable.

      In order to own Blumpf, “anti-Zionists” were willing to give Kamala Harris four years in office to do her worst on Ukraine. When Trump was president, Israel wasn’t at war with Hezbollah and Hamas. There wasn’t a genocide in Gaza.

      In 2020, these morons said that Trump would “go to war with Iran” and that Biden would “restrain Israel.” Exactly the opposite happened. Today, there is a proxy war with Iran in the Middle East with Iranian backed militias attacking American bases. Gaza has been pulverized worse than Japan and Dresden in World War II

    • 6. Trump ran on ending the wars in the Middle East. Israel has already vowed to end the war with Hezbollah in Lebanon as a gift to Trump and because the whole north of Israel has been evacuated. Elon Musk has met with Iranian officials to ease tensions.

      “Anti-Zionists” actually don’t want the wars to end. They want to live vicariously through Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas. As long as missiles are hitting Israel, they don’t care how many people on either side end up dying

      7. There is no reason to believe that Dispensationalism is becoming more popular or that Israel is becoming more popular. Quite the opposite

      8. The ADL, SPLC and Antifa are now all wildly unpopular on the Right, but instead of celebrating this “anti-Zionists” would rather side with Antifa than conservative normies and send Kamala Harris to the White House to make some kind of point about “Zionism.” They want to empower our political enemies and alienate people who are sympathetic to our issues

      Finally, the case of TRS shows that some people can go so far down the rabbit hole of hating Jews that they end up hating White people

  4. I agree it’s too much to ask for the average amerikwan to care their government is unflagging in its support for the Jews to commit genocide and start wars of aggression but perhaps they will see it as an “issue close to home” as they escalate further and Iran shuts down the Strait of Hormuz and the price of oil explodes. Tho I’m sure Trump supporters could be made to blame Iran for that and understand we have to bomb them now. The future will not be decided by the sentiments of the masses that consume propaganda from a trough but by those with power, in this case the Zionists that control Trump. You and the amerikwan voter may care about those “other issues” but Trump doesn’t and neither do the Jews running him. They care about ruling the world.

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