New York Times: House Passes Budget Bill Teeing Up Enormous Tax and Spending Cuts

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1. First off I am pissed at this bill. We didn’t elect Trump to gut our military but to build it back up to face down China. Second, we didn’t elect Trump to gut the Consumer Protection Bureau, reduce Social Security, or privatize the US government. Thirdly, the GOP as usual is gutting taxes for the rich. I will wait to see how much and where the gutting is and what privatization is occurring but this sounds like full on stupid financier backed take over of the government. It sounds like Thatcher on steroids, and that ended up not working well for Britain.

   “Mass deportations aren’t possible yet because there are only like 6,000 ICE agents.”

   There is no ICEing our way out of illegal immigration. The processing now required by courts, regulations, directives, etc makes it impossible to have mass deportations. ICE is required to detain and hold illegals caught in the interior to prove they are illegals. Detention facilities alone will take years to build. Then their are the issues around internal enforcement.

   The reason ICE focuses on criminal illegal aliens is because the proof of illegal alien status has already been determined by the local courts, who have already jailed or imprisoned the perps. All ICE has to do then is be a taxi service and deport the illegal. ICE is looking at illegal alien absconders and criminals out on bench warrants. Thats easy.  Its entirely different than searching for and finding and rounding up illegal aliens who have not yet been arrested for committing a crime inside the US.

   So, the difficult part is finding illegal aliens not on bail of some sort from the courts and finding a cause to allow them to be arrested. That involves targeting business, houses, and communities who have illegal aliens and ensuring the people living and working there are illegal aliens. Sure there are Wetbacks who still operate in little camps like the Wets of old. But most live in cities where they are the majority of large regions in the city. Houses, shops, retails, restaurants, professions, businesses, etc all partially if not wholly lived, worked and staffed by illegals with some sort of legal cutout as the titular operator. The illegals have fraudulent documents that are hard to prove let alone find which will allow an ICE agent team to walk in and start rounding up Wets.

   You guys in Alabama don’t know how entrenched and large the illegal alien community is in Southwest, Pacific Coast, North East, and major metro areas in between. Northern Virginia alone is rampant with illegal aliens. There are several illegal alien communities that are now built upon old ancient White Villages as far South as areas surrounding Virginia Military Institute. Similarly, North Carolina is pockmarked with illegal alien settlements. There are millions and millions and millions of illegal aliens who now have anchor babies living and working throughout the US. Yes, in Alabama you might roll up most in the farm villages and camps. But, elsewhere, not so easy.

   45,000,000 illegal aliens, 12,500,000 illegal alien children, score of million of anchor babies. You are not going to ICE your way out of this. Not with 60,000 ICE agents. Just the processing alone by ICE standards would stymie any effort more than 2,000 a day. It will require months and months of recruitment and months and months of training to create a large enough ICE force. It will take months and months more of intelligence and investigation gathering to find the evidence to round up the illegal aliens in the interior. It will take years of building detention facilities and years of court actions to legalize new regulations allowing for this deportation force to operate. By then the Democrats will win Congress and the Presidency strangling it in its crib.

   There is only one way to get out of this. It requires extra-constitutional measures found by declaring a state of invasion and insurrection. These will short circuit the regulations now in place limiting ICE activities. It will obliterate requirements regarding detention facilities. It will allow the President to appoint thousands of US Marshals and Special Marshals necessary to short circuit hiring and training law enforcement authorities. In turn, they could deputize scores of thousands of already certified law enforcement officers. Finally, that group could embed within the hundreds of thousand of National Guard and Regular troops necessary to enter these illegal alien colonies, round them up rapidly, tear apart their fictitious and fraudulent legal documents, and bypass the Civil Courts and deport them. This is bloody occupation MAN! You don’t resist occupation with law enforcement. Its WAR ENFORCEMENT! WE FIGHT TO WIN!!  

   • Apart from the idiocy of increasing funding for a totally corrupted and bloated military designed to enrich the owners of the MIC before the critical task of purging it of various DEI cadres, perfumed princesses and the like, your points about the entrenched money-machine to fund and maintain the invaders are a good ones. It is indeed a state of invasion and insurrection. It’s still early, so perhaps Miller and others who are on the right side of the matter will still prevail. The EO’s by themselves mean little – reduced to mere symbolism – if they are immediately struck down by blackrobes. They have to be enforced to have an effect.

   • Massive respect to Aryan Globalist Bro for the above post; a harrowing expose’ of the true situation, vis-a-vis illegal immigration, this country is in. One can read about the numbers of invaders, watch the hair-raising videos of the masses and masses of excess humanity wading across the border, and still not have the visceral sensation of re-visiting places in America, last seen 20-30 years ago when it was almost all White, to now find those places almost without a White face to be seen other than one’s own.

   • #Aryan,
     Maybe it will take a multi pronged approach so that ICE isn’t doing all the legwork.
     Remove everything that enticed these illegals in the first place.
     Authorise the military, the police and community leaders to offer logistical and physical support as well, plus remove the right of illegals to use the US legal system, which should only be available to Americans.
     In places like China, if they want you to leave, you certainly won’t be hanging around. No due procedure there. You’re leaving.
     The West needs a similar mindset.
     Due process shouldn’t apply to invaders.

2. Good point about the too-small number of ICE agents, but note that states like Texas and Alabama have ordered local police to arrest the illegals also. There’s still too-much catch and release. One good point is that the border crossings themselves have basically come to a standstill. There are numerous blackrobe-decrees blocking the deportation agenda (along with many other EOs). It might take some time to purge the DOJ of woketards and the like to fight them in courts. What’s really needed for the mid-terms is a congress willing to impeach and remove every one of these blackrobed clowns for high-treason, followed by actual charges and trips to unpleasant places when convicted. Club Gitmo awaits – and folks like Amy Berman need to be there enjoying the tropics for many years to come, unless they get the gallows.

3. Trump is proof that racism and telling whites to hate black people can win you elections. The questions is will firing federal employees who do the jobs lazy useless white American fascist will not do. The question racist will you regret voting for Trump when your social security and Medicare payments disappear?

   • You on the wrong blog, homie

4. @Aryan Globalist Bro et al:

   Well, the Trump administration refuses to take the gloves off for fear of the Left and its media arm accusing Trump of being a dictator when a dictator is EXACTLY WHAT TRUMP’s SUPPORTERS WANT!

   And so we get all these little hippie activist judges in places like Hipstersville, Portlandia exercising their hecklers’ veto and gumming up the works, which would stop if Trump opened up a can of whoop-a@@ and jailed those judges – preferably with some Venezuelan gang members to punctuate that exclamation point.

   Also, Trump’s DHS and DOJ need to get tough on these blue state politicians and arrest them if they “resist” ICE in going to the jails to deport criminals. There is precedent for this; Abraham Lincoln AND Woodrow Wilson imprisoned their opposition. Moreover, after the Lincoln assassination, precedent was set for trying and convicting American civilians in military court.

   All that has to be done is to compel all businesses and landlords under threat of RICO charges and draconian fines to E-verify prospective employees and tenants. Also, cut off all welfare to illegals especially those with anchor babies. If there is a court challenge on behalf of those anchor babies, a great counter argument would be to require the illegals to surrender their parental rights to their American children so that they can then be put into the foster system and then be put up for adoption. No work, no housing, no welfare? No more illegals.

   Next. The military is so bloated with such low morale that throwing even more money at it would not make it ready to take on China. For one thing, it’s top-heavy as hell in administration. We need fewer chiefs and more warriors.

   An ever-increasing YUGE budget does NOT mean a damned thing if most of the money as well as any weapons that actually materialize disappear into a black hole somewhere. I understand that the military is short on food provisions. Money that we’ve already allocated for the military is not going to the feeding, training, housing, and medical care of our military members and the VA is still some sick joke.

   The number of moves your tax dollars pay for military families to follow their military member from post to post is staggering. There is no reason why recruitment can’t focus on creating larger national guard units. When we have a fully staffed full-time military the temptation for presidents to pay off (((donors))) by using young Americans like toy soldiers and engaging in all kinds of police actions where our country has no real interests to safeguard, activating, mobilizing, and deploying our young people would require a Declaration of War from the Congress.

   Other thoughts: tax cuts don’t bother me at all. To me, tariffs in place of or even a combination of tariffs and a national sales tax in place of income tax and property tax gives Americans full discretion over where to put their income.

   Too many people have bought the leftist commie claptrap about millionaires and billionaires if it gets to the point where you will turn down anything and everything that benefits you if it might benefit them.

   • Excellent points all. Those who whine about tariffs don’t seem to have taken US history – no doubt part of the superb public schul edumacation system they’ve been subjected to. The federal government was largely funded by tariffs from the beginning until 1913. There is a very informative article on the issue posted today over here:

     On Tariffs

5. U.S. Rep Massie must have “activist brain.”

   Massie goes into how according to the GOP’s rosy estimates over the next ten years that the US deficit will increase by 20 TRILLION dollars, but he believes that the deficit will double from 34 trillion to 68 trillion over the next decade.

   More winning.

   • Yep.

     Major tax cuts are coming. = massive deficits.

     At some point, they will put one too many straws on the camel’s back.

     • Tax cuts for the donor class of shabbos goy and jewish billionaires.

       Musk invested is 250+ million well into his PAC to elect Trump. He will get that back and then some.

       None of ‘our people’ will benefit.

       As a matter of fact, Trump and Johnson’s ‘big. beautiful budget bill’ is going to hurt a large chunk of his voters with the massive cuts to federal funding of Medicaid. Steve Bannor has been the ‘canary in a coal mine’ warning MAGA cultists at CPAC that that is a recipe for disaster.

       Let those out of touch S.O.B.s cut Medicaid, SNAP, and EBT, and January 6, 2021 will look like a picnic. Fun times, indeed,

       • @November,

         “Tax cuts for the donor class of shabbos goy and jewish billionaires.

         Musk invested is 250+ million well into his PAC to elect Trump. He will get that back and then some.

         None of ‘our people’ will benefit.

         As a matter of fact, Trump and Johnson’s ‘big. beautiful budget bill’ is going to hurt a large chunk of his voters with the massive cuts to federal funding of Medicaid. Steve Bannor has been the ‘canary in a coal mine’ warning MAGA cultists at CPAC that that is a recipe for disaster.

         Let those out of touch S.O.B.s cut Medicaid, SNAP, and EBT, and January 6, 2021 will look like a picnic. Fun times, indeed,”

         Sometimes November gets it right. He is right on this. The GOPe Conference in Congress is almost irredeemably corrupted by oligarchs into first supporting tax cuts for them at the common man’s expanse in every Congress. If this occurs it means we spent the last four years, discovering and exposing the election fraud, the Biden fraud, the Russia fraud, the immigration fraud, etc just to get YUGE tax cuts for the rich.

         Having seen these kinds of betrayals over the decades, I can tell you what will happen. The MAGA crowd will get misdirected on b.s. performative political con artistry like Epstein files, or whatever, during ghe budget period until too late to organize to stop the oligarch budget. Then the GOPe will committ collective Hari Kari at election and or go into retirement. Just watch.

         They did the same thing with NAFTA. Loads of generational politicians retired or were destroyed in the election of 1992 thereby blowing the victory that had been won during Cold War, just so they could create NAFTA.

         If this occurrs again there will be a difference though. This time there will be no surviving of the GOP. It will be irredeemabmy destroyed. Better still, the MAGA crowd will certifiably go militant. This is what Republican leaning Southern Patriots like here at OD should be preparing for as a backstop.

     • At this point I rather doubt there is much Trump could do about this even if he wanted to. As the Tree of Woe notes, this is pretty much baked in the cake thanks to a many-decades series of fatal errors. There is a possible solution, but nobody in Trump’s camp is considering it at this time.

       V. I. Lenin made some curious ‘prophesies’ at some point in his career:

       1. The UK will colonize itself out of existence
       2. Germany will militarize itself out of existence
       3. The US will spend itself out of existence

       One and two have proven to be true already. Looks like we’re next on the menu.