Byzantium’s Most Brutal and Inhumane Arena Spectacles

I don’t have much to say about the murder of Rob Reiner, the mass shooting at Brown University or the mass shooting of Jews by a Muslim at Bondi Beach in Australia.

We’re currently debating Nietzsche’s argument that the aristocratic and martial spirit of Rome was snuffed out by the poisonous slave morality of Christianity which made us weak and decadent. I blame modern liberalism for the things that White Nationalist pagans blame on Christianity.

Note: The first video below is a good illustration of what the Roman Empire was like after it converted to Christianity and the center of power shifted east to Constantinople. The second video is a good illustration of what Rome was like at its worst in the glory days of paganism.

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      • Gene Hackman was a tremendous actor. One of the greatest of the late 20th century. I don’t think he was Jewish if anyone on here is going to make that claim.

        Rob Reiner was a genital wart on the testicles of human history. I mean, that’s the best I can come up with for him.

        • Rob Reiner and his wife were the latest victims of his own anti-police, open borders ideology. The people smuggled in by the drug cartels surely had to act as drug mules to pay their smugglers and the drugs they smuggled in were many more times powerful, addictive, and psychosis-inducing than the drugs made when Reiner was a young man.

          Of course, with all the chemicals we have in our air, our drinking water, and our food, Nick Reiner may have already had a chemical imbalance he himself was trying to medicate with drugs.

          All I know is that I watched the interview with Rob and Nick when they were promoting the movie based on Nick’s addiction and it was so sad watching Rob trying to establish some kind of personal and emotional connection to Nick. It was very tenuous but it proved too tenuous in the end.

          I agree with those of his supporters who thought Trump’s comments on Truth Social were “inappropriate and unnecessary.” Trump could have still stuck the knife in by pushing his Great Big Beautiful Wall and stricter crime enforcement against drug dealers to prevent more drug-related tragedies.

    • Indeed. For awhile there I thought a new operator was in action. But, no, it was his son. Amazing and tragic. The whole Leftwing spectacle is slowly crumbling around them all.

  1. Few, if any, in the modern world know what Christianity is. The only church, I’m aware of, that has maintained its true identity, are the Primitive Baptists, and they are disregarded and looked down upon by other Baptists and mainline denominations. If what the modern world portrays as Christianity were accurate, the naysayers would be correct and we could all agree to fight against it.
    The modern, feminine, gay “Christian” church is fit only for hell. But Christ foretold it would end up this way. “The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal,till the whole was leavened,” (Matthew 13:33). Ignorant theologians tell us that means the kingdom starts small and overkill the world. That isn’t what it means at all.
    In the bible, leaven always represents false doctrine (see Mt 16:6, Gal 5:9, and 1 Cor 5:6). So be careful of the theologians and biblical scholars.
    Christ was warning us the church would go bad. And was He spot on. The church is nearly fully leavened and prepared for the oven.
    But the leavening of the church began early and by the fifth century the AntiChrist was fully established in the Roman Church. But a remnant remained true, and they were known as Paulikians, Albigensians, Cathari, Waldensians, among other names. These were they who were persecuted by the Roman Whore, and they were neither weak, nor gay, nor confused about their sex, but men and women who would not reject Christ or His Gospel, who were horribly persecuted, and joyfully died for His Namesake. God grant that we may meet persecution and death with the strength that they possessed.

    • Well said ACN. This is indeed part of a truth and the reason why the Papacy remains a threat to the Religion of Truth and Liberty (Christianity) and the Truth and Liberty of Europeans. But, even if a fallen ecclesiastical system has occurred within in it are the remnants of the faithful.

      Christ and the Apostles have taught us and were explicit about this, that the true Church, the Holy Invisible Universal Church, would never leave this earthly Kingdom. “For wherever two are more of the faithful are gathered there I Am.” It doesnt matter if it’s a cathedral, a small cabin, in the forest, a prison cell, a battlefield of gore, or the corrupted denominations of Christianjty, it remains and endures, even inside the Papacy. Even now, we have our friends there within. So keep the Faith.

      • I rebuke you in the Holy name of Jesus,you filthy Jew.You demons can speak any words you like but you cannot proclaim that Christ Jesus is Lord and Savior.I claim the blood of Jesus,demon,but you cannot and will never do so.Your soul belongs to your father Satan and you are lost.You are a Jew and everyone here but your fellow IDF trolls say so repeatedly.You will not reply or attempt to show me to be incorrect,which I am not,because you are in fact a demon Jew.

        • @RebelRogeringYourself,

          You rebuke me, then you rebuke Jesus, because I say Jesus Christ was made Man, was crucified under Pontius Pilot and died but rose again according to the scriptures and sits in the right hand of the father, to judge the quick and the dead. Get behind me demon, for I have given witness, to the everlasting gospel of our Lord and Savior, but your own slippery words reveal you have not but made an accusation just as does Satan.

  2. “We’re currently debating Nietzsche’s argument that the aristocratic and martial spirit of Rome was snuffed out by the poisonous slave morality of Christianity which made us weak and decadent.”

    Actual Nazi experts of racial science, who were not content to merely spout trite Nietzschean clichés, were intellectually honest, or consistent enough in their Völkisch thinking, to conclude that the Roman race had gone to the dogs already long before Christianity came to power.

    To mention just one (immensely important) detail, the Roman people were no longer strong enough, or free enough, to carry their own weapons, but had to hire first semi-barbarian Balkanoids, and then fully barbarian Germanics to do it for them! A true old-school tough Roman like Cato the Censor would have sternly concluded from this detail alone that the doom of his people was at hand – when the Romans were no longer “children of Mars.”

    https://books.google.fi/books?id=mQspAwAAQBAJ&lpg=PP1&hl=fi&pg=PA160#v=onepage&q&f=false

    “Italians became the minority in the Senate by the end of the second century. The proportion of Italian soldiers in the legions dropped even faster. Already the minority under Vespasian, they almost vanished a century later.42”

    • Viisaus,

      “Italians became the minority in the Senate by the end of the second century. The proportion of Italian soldiers in the legions dropped even faster. Already the minority under Vespasian, they almost vanished a century later.42”

      I disagree with this assessment. It is true that the number of soldiers drawn from the legions in Italy dropped. It’s not that Italians couldn’t fight anymore, it’s just that Italians were increasingly outnumbered and replaced by Slaves and unhealthy Plebian dependents. But the Italians didn’t disappear. They simply moved elsewhere around the Empire. When you read of Emperors being from Libya or Syria, it wasn’t that they were actually Libyans or Syrians, it’s they were Italians settled in Italian colonies. The Italians dominated the Empire until near its very end.

      It is true the demographics did change in Italy as the large Italian population moved out to the provinces and replaced by non Italian slaves. We see in this in burisl genetics as the moved from Italian to Levant, Egypt, and North Africa. Still, the top class remained mostly Italian. In the end, as the Empire collapsed, large numbers of Italians returned to Italy. We see this in genetic changes of burials in Rome as it went from strong European even northern European genetics to majority semetic and middle eastern before finally shifting back during dark and into the Middle Ages.

      Although the Empire permanently changed Italian genetics and phenotype from one that is still seen in a minority of Italians, like squarer jaw, lighter complexion, and more Nordic looking to one which is more what we call Mediteraneun, Italian genetics did return back towards a mean. Perhaps we will see this happen again as large numbers of Americans leave back to Europe, or in Nick Fuentes case, back to Mexico. 

      In turn, they also spread their genes amongst other people in the Empire. Perhaps 5-20% of British, the least Roman of the Empire, are partially descended from the Italians, the range being so high because ancient Italians were very similar to the ancient Britons making it difficult to distinguish. They Romano-British werent the least Roman, they are the most independent, kind of like the Americans to the British.

      This spread of Italian communities across the Empire kept the Legions being Italian in everything but name going well into the 3rd and perhaps even 4rh century. Roman citizens remained the majority of the army until the end of the Empire. By then, of course, everyone was a citizen, whether Celto Iberian or Latin Italian. All were Roman Citizens except the actually foreign born barbarians who increasingly were allowed to volunteer for the imperial army. By the end of Empire they were a solid half of the army.

      When the Proto-Protestant Christian Barbian nations finally overthrew Rome, they too had acculturated much of Roman culture. The Franks were about as Romanized as any group even though typically with assimilated groups they kept a strong ethno-nationalist core. The Goths also kept their distinct Gothic but Romanized culture. Together these groups re Nordicized the old Roman territories and reinvigorated the local Roman aristocracy in countless marriages during the subsequent centuries. 

      Alone of the Roman provinces, the Anglo-Saxons, the Northman, the Irish, the Eastern Germans had the least Roman acculturation. Yet even here over time, the winding way of Divine Providence saw it fit the Aristocracy of these nations would meld back into the combined Roman, Celtic, Germanic aristocratic host found in Romanized Europe. This was due to the Aristocracy of these least Romanized countries, being based upon cavalry forces who were trained by other Continental units who themselves were rooted in the elite cavalry units of the Roman Empire and the aristocracy which inherited them.  

      In the Roman Empire, it was the elite troops who remained a solid majority of Italians, partial Italians, and Italianized Gauls and Britains and Spaniards i.e. Romano-Britons. But it also includes more foreign troops like the Samartians. These elite Roman units were hereditary military soldiers.
      https://youtu.be/OFKtvsv5uKo?si=3q4k5Qn9ntdDjqeQ

      Many only served a time, but a strong minority served their entire lives. This ethos of public service, often originated in treaty obligations demanding professional military development. It later melded with the culture of the ancient Celt and German and Roman Republic, became stratified in the late Roman and Dark Age Aristocracy where it became a distinct class inheriting both Roman, Celtic, German, and other barbarian traditions.

      In Britain, the Anglo-Saxons come across these aristocratic fighting units, fought them, integrated with them,  and over time easily intermarried and melded with them. This community together with the Christian Barbarian elite soldiers which conquered Rome became the future gentry and martial Aristocracy of the British and ALL European nations for thousands of years.
      https://youtu.be/o9kVyJQQHxg?si=ioKSOgDjRSPIA20W

      For example, when the surviving Romano-Goths returned to Germany defeated by the Byzantines, they brought further Roman acculturation including partial Italian blood lines into German society especially it’s elite. When the Romano-Franks pushed Eastward they did the same. Only the Scandinavian and British isles retained the most indigenous culture. But even here, the power and influence of the Romano-British community has serious impact on Anglo-Saxon society.

      Over the millenia, the British aristocracy retained a vestigial memory of their ancient elite Italian and Romano-British cavalry who were at the formation of that fighting class. The independent Romano-Britain ethos and the liberty Anglo-Saxon ethos melded together to create a unique aristocracy devoted to liberty and freedom, a ln outlooks mimicked in many aristrocracies across Europe before humbled by Papist absolutism. Only in Britain the island of the mighty and free did it remain unbroken until it passed to America.
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OKPl600w0ng&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD

      The traditions of the elite Roman and elite Barbarians was instilled and refined in constant service to the community, the tribe the duchy, the kingdom, the empire the Republic. It created a bio-spirtual driven force in these familial clans, akin to instinct found in animal breeding that continues down to modern times. Today, America and the Anglosohere has the largest percentage of these people than any country in the world, even in Europe.

      The highest percentage in America is found in the South and Mountain West. These American communities, whether poor or wealthy, are descended from the elite Romano-British, Gaulo-Romans, Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Viking and German aristocratic fighters and other odd European barbarian nations like the Thracians, Sarmatians, and Illyrians in far higher percentages than anywhere on the globe. It’s why European aristocrats get so unnerved when the come across a rising American upstart with martial background; they aren’t too sure if they are dealing with a relative.

      Even Hunter the pascifist is descended of one such line and despite his continual bucking of his calling, it will get it’s way, even if it has to force him back in.  Those bloody Italians decreased in population because they came and impacted our ancestors during Rome. It’s this Eternal Rome which never left us which is why we are so haunted by it both for good and ill. So, with Hunter, Rome will get it’s way, and will come for him one day, even if he is only worried about Yehudis. Make sure you do it for Freedom, the same word you namesake died for Mr. Wallace .

      • I’m not a pacifist.

        I’m anti-liberal and recognize that war and imperialism has been one of the main accelerants and vectors for the spread of liberalism since the Napoleonic Wars. Liberalism didn’t exist in Roman or Byzantine times.

        • @Hunter Wallace,

          “Liberalism didn’t exist in Roman or Byzantine times.”

          I disagree. I wrote elsewhere why. It’s not the liberalism necessarily of our age, but there were liberals along the same line as today, as well as conservatives. Read the political and actual battles between the Optimates (conservative) and the Plebs (liberal) during the Republic. Literally reads like the debates that went on between about the 1840s to the civil war and then into the 1940s. We seem to have broken the pattern but we are still rhyming.

          The Liberals won out, thru Julius and his heir Augustus. The later established the Principate, re entrenched the upper class, made reforms, and ultimately sent the Roman Republic downward into degeneracy and final submersion by their eras third world filth (not the Germans). A huge amount of Western Civilization as we know it developed from the conflict between these two sides.

          On the one hand, the Optimates, the conservatives. They were hard patriots but mostly for their class, the patricians and their privileges, although later they fought hard to keep the Republic as it was. But, their policies were venal, oligarchic, mean, and selfish. Yet, they were pious to the old ways, able administrators and the reformers among them, who were few, were good. Sulla, was the most successful but most cruel. Cicero, Cassius, and Brutus most personified the best among them.

          When the final Republican civil war occurred between the two camps and ended at the last battle of Phillipi? many of the raw recruits deserted the side of the Republican Optimates. Cassius stood his ground in the final charge from Marc Antony’s and Octavian Augustus’ forces. Brutus, knowing the last true Republicans had thrown all the dice left for the reformer Optimates and lost and with it the Republic was lost knew what was to come. A kind of despotic populism and global empire personified in the Principate of Augustus and the Roman Empire. Like a good Roman of the old ways, he went down fighting singly. The stoeies of this time and even Brutus were passed down the millenia all the way to Shakespeare who wrote of this epochal time. Simply amazing.
          https://youtu.be/SAUAZe1C8a4?si=mQbrCGOh4-_rPFaR

  3. The historian Will Durant, who wrote back in the day when even Leftists like him could make “politically incorrect” or eugenic-sounding remarks, commented upon the emperor Trajan’s ascension in a dry manner:

    https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.231118/page/n453/mode/2up?view=theater

    “[Trajan] was the first in a long line of generals whose provincial birth and training seemed to give them the will-to-life that had gone from the native Roman stock. That Rome made no protest against this enthronement of a provincial was in itself an event and omen in Roman history.”

    And this process had actually begun even before the birth of Christ – Durant again:

    https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.231118/page/n259/mode/2up?view=theater

    “The very peace that Augustus had organized, and the security that he had won for Rome, had loosened the fibre of the people. No one wanted to enlist in the army, or recognize the inexorable periodicity of war. Luxury had taken the place of simplicity, sexual license was replacing parentage; by its own exhausted will the great race was beginning to die.”

    • Durant, already spreading the anti-classist poisonous lie to undermine the middle and upper class will. Trajan was no commoner, but a Roman Noble. His father was a general and former Senator. Unlike the fact Durant lied about in trying to promote the idea that Ethnic Rif Raf White Papists and Jews should rise up like great provincial Romans such as Trajan, the true fact is Trajan was a pure blooded Roman Latin Italian with genus name originating in Umbria, and from there to Rome and it’s mystical father cities of Troy and Alba Longa. He was no provincial Papists from the Bronx that Durante was trying to elevate to the White House.

      • Good point. Will Durant was not a very good historian. Neither was Gibbon, for that matter. They only seem good today due the massive degradation of academia in general.

      • “Pure blooded Roman Latin Italian”.What a bunch of contrived bullshit.Romans did not call themselves Latin and the term Italian was unknown to them.They called themselves Romans(Romani).The city Latium gave their language the name Latin.They were not Latins nor called themselves Latins,it merely referred to their communication mode.And to use the word pure for those short,dark and ugly people is laughable.That description actually fits your people as well Globalist Jew.

  4. You have no argument to make besides endless “what aboutism.” Every time someone wants to talk about Christianity, you immediately deflect it to something else BESIDES Christianity, which proves you do not really believe in Christianity. You never confront the fact of Christianity’s uniformly Jewish character as based on the explicitly Jewish authorship and dictates of the Old Testament, and how that Jewish failure universalized itself in the figure of the Jewish Messiah who came to fulfill the Old Testament, Christ. Everything Christian for you is the cultural dressing that existed outside of Christianity; Byzantines were great, and they were ostensibly Christian, therefore Christianity is cool too!

    You were an atheist Nietzschean to begin with and the only reason you “converted” was to get out of the basement and get laid, because that is what Christianity does, it lowers the barrier of entry to all sorts of garbage. Blacks can become Christian and gain access to white women. Jews can pay lip service to Jesus and make common cause with Zionism. Whores can become Christian and all is forgiven, which we see with these Onlyfans women, and women in general. Christian women pushed female suffrage, abstinence, pacifism, and liberalism in the 19th century. To the extent Christianity is the first thing to theoretically equate men and women irrespective of sex, as based on souls, Christianity is the beginning of feminism. Grifter trash like Russell Brand can become Christian and suddenly all their past dirt is sanitized. Guys trying to rebel against society can give up and get a little piece of 4/10 pussy when the going gets too tough, and all their racism and radicalism is forgiven. Murders, thieves, and rapists can become Christian. Prisons are filled with Christians. They can do all of this because Christianity is an intensely universal religion; all are children before God. That is the story of Christianity in the West. It was a prison system that gradually poisoned humanity to death by neutering its spirit and replacing it with a lobotomized, slavish cult that was itself built by Jews.

    Romans and Byzantines did not fully understand what they were doing because these were illiterate societies and the secrets of the Bible were closely guarded by the clergy. Their conceit was like that of the South, they cynically thought they could use the prison morality of Christianity to protect their wealth and position by preaching meekness and humility as class war. It remained that way all the way up to the late 19th century, and as soon as the monkey could see above the trees with the spread of education, Christianity collapsed and “paganism” in the form of romanticism, sexism, nationalism, and racism was born again, only to be finally crushed by Christians and Jews in 1945 thanks to America, that ultimate product of Christianity with its secularized Christian absolute rights and love of the other. Liberalism was born out of Christianity, that is how Reason came to briefly rule after the Renaissance before it was snuffed out by the 19th century, except in America where it only grew stronger, because American never had any roots, it was a colony of outcasts, transplants, and immigrant Protestants newly liberated by Reason. America never had any ties to history or culture. It was and ever more so remains a Christian abomination through and through.

    • The argument is specifically that Christianity replaced the “aristocratic” spirit of Rome with the “slave morality” of the Jews and was a poison that somehow made the Romans weak and unable to resist Germanic invaders most of whom by that time were also Nicene or Arian Christians (Goths, Franks, Vandals, Burgundians):

      1. Among other things, the second video describes how Caligula who claimed to be a living god and the embodiment of Jupiter created a brothel at the Imperial Palace and forced the Roman aristocracy to engage in prostitution in order to humiliate them and generate revenue. He also had banquets where he chose sexual partners and positions for Roman aristocrats. Such was the “aristocratic” spirit of Rome at its peak in the first century AD before it became Christian.

      2. The first video describes how the Emperor Justinian ordered his general Belisarius to slaughter tens of thousands of people in the Hippodrome in response to the Nika riots. It goes on to discuss how the Byzantines used excruciating methods to torture people for centuries. Belisarius conquered the Vandals in North Africa and destroyed Italy in the Gothic Wars against the Ostrogoths. He would have succeeded in reconquering most of the West if he had not been stopped by the Plague.

      In my early twenties, I read Nietzsche and was initially impressed, but as I learned more and my understanding of history deepened I quickly discarded his views. The Late Romans continued to produce excellent generals like Aetius, Majorian and Belisarius. The Western Roman Empire defeated the Huns which had conquered Germanic Europe and triggered the refugee crisis which eventually overwhelmed the West. The Eastern Roman Empire, which was also Christian, endured for another thousand years. Italy was destroyed by the vicious warfare of the Gothic Wars. The Byzantines excelled in torture and were not weak Christian pacifists. Byzantine emperors were absolute monarchs and carried on Roman traditions. It was pagan Rome which had jettisoned republicanism when the Roman Republic fell under Caesar. Pagan Greece created constitutions and democracy and egalitarian forms of government which never existed in the Byzantine Empire. Monarchy, aristocracy and serfdom dominated Christian Europe for a thousand years until republicanism was revived in the Renaissance. Julius Caesar was assassinated out of fear that he was setting himself up as a king.

      I’ve never been an incel and dated lots of women before I got married. I converted to Christianity years before I met my wife which is why I joined Christian organizations. We don’t have basements in south Alabama. You’re making shit up. Feminism grew out of late 19th century European Romanticism. It originated in the plays of Henrik Ibsen who also wrote a play glamorizing Julian the Apostate.

      Liberalism was snuffed out in 19th century Europe? Where do I even begin? LMAO

      The Romantics glorified the Noble Savage, blacks which is why slavery was abolished by bleeding heart liberal activists at this time and women. Feminism grew out of Romanticism.

      • Most of the historical records about Caligula and Nero come from only one or two hostile sources with strong biases against their subject matter, but even if true, those emperors ruled only for a short time, and self-correction within the Roman order prevailed when they were deposed and assassinated before they could establish any dynasties.

        The Roman Empire peaked during the reigns of the Five Good Emperors, Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian, Antonius Pius, and Marcus Aurelius. They were all heathens, and Christianity was illegal during their rule. Marcus was a pious monotheistic Stoic philosopher who venerated God but professed well-founded bewilderment over Christian dogmas.

        • @Gaza Poverty Law Center,

          “The Roman Empire peaked during the reigns of the Five Good Emperors, Nerva, Trajan, Hadrian, Antonius Pius, and Marcus Aurelius.”

          It was also during that period when the population of Rome’s Semetic and Jewish population peaked. The Roman Empire transfered loads of Mediterraneun trash all around Europe. It took centuries and centuries to recover. Yeah, being Pagan didn’t stop multiculturalism, it actually enhanced it.

          • So you’re saying indigenous Roman paganism had some kind of ethnic diversity mandate that the Good Emperors followed in order to turn the empire’s population brown? I never heard that one before. Did Roman officials compile census records that documented the browning of Italy, Gaul, Britannia, Dalmatia, or Lusitania during that period?

            The Jevvish population scattered throughout the empire because of the vicious Jevvish revolts that Trajan and Hadrian had to suppress, which resulted in mass deportations from Palestine, Cyprus, and North Africa. They had to go someplace, and the Romans weren’t vindictive enough to h010cau$t them, at least not completely….

          • There were censuses of the Romans and compilations of populations in the provinces finally archeology also has filled some gaps. The fact is Romans were a minority population except in Italy, and even there thru the centuries of using slave and immigrant cheap labor by the Big Business elite of their era, they effed themselves. The cultural chaos and opportunities for vast wealth accumulation together with cultural corruption this allowed, where the downfall of the Empire. Only Christianity proved the glue that kept it united and then other geopolitical factors came into play which ended the Empire in the West.

            The Roman religion was for the Romans. They were only at most 30-35% of the Empire. All citizens of Rome had to give submission to the ways of the ancestors, unless one was naturalized and a Jew or some other protected class like St Paul. The later only had to give respect to the Roman ways and obiesence only to the Emperor. The later was ultimately divinized to give central authority over a very multi national Empire, in which the subjects were allowed to keep their own religions. The Christian citizens and subjects refused to do this causing the first of the persecutions.

            When you have what in essence was globalism, and you allow even the barest of trade to serve the ruling population you get movement of people throughout the system. This is what happened with Rome itself as more and more foreigners were allowed to set up distinct quarters in the city protected by the City fathers i.e. the Senate. Elsewhere, kver time as the overseas Roman municipiums started opening up, and in turn by their status allowed entry into Rome itself, this it became even more diversified. Still, the Romans had a pretty effective segregation until the 100s at which point things started getting shaky.

            That’s when Rome, the city itself became majority non-Roman. The first group were the Greeks, which had its own quarter, later others followed. By the 200s Rome the city was very Semeticized and Hellenized. But for the Celts, and later Germans it would’ve been heavily non White. We see this in genetic testing.

            Jews were already widespread throughout the Med before the Jewish Roman Wars. In fact so widespread that when the later wars happened the Romans were fighting Jews throughout the Empire not just in Judea. The Jews actually massacred much of the Roman colonials in what is now Libya, launched raids into Spain and Southern Gaul, revolted in Italy, and rioted throughout Greece and ultimately obtained the help of overseas Armenian and Persians. There were several of these wars.

            The first of the wars in which Rome conquered Jerusalem and the second great revolt when Rome really smashed the Judeans, led to a declaration of peace and establishment of special identity for Jews. The Temple of Peace was the Romans kind of Holocaust museum to end the Wars, integrate them into the Empire. You could be a Jew, be a citizen of Rome, and not have to worship the Emperor.

            Christians didn’t get that benefit. When mass Roman naturalization occurred in the 200s the Romans figured a strong assimilationist policy thru forcing submission to the Roman religion was the answer. The Christians refused leading to the various persecutions. Jews were exempt but still the majority of them converted to Christianity. It’s all very interesting.

            Ultimately, the only way the Romans couldve maintained their identity was by a stronger segregationist policy together with focused aassimilationist policies that would have a chance of success like with the Illyrians, Gauls, Britons, Hispanians, in the West and perhaps with the Greeks in the East. But even then it would have to have been gradual. Instead you had Emperors like Caracala as I recall, decide to simply give citizenship to everybody thereby opening up the numbers of recruits and taxes for the Imperial regime. The rest is the history.

            Overall it must be understood the Roman religion was a Nativist religion like the Judean religion. On the other hand it was more welcoming of people to enter its protection unlike the Jews. When this was married to a state imperial enterprise, it led to the slow universalization and finally dissolation of it amongst the global empire. Nonetheless, it did succeed in also dissolving the other religions around it, the Greek, Jews, and Christians excepted. The process took centuries and well into the early middle ages the ways of the ancestors of other peoples were still followed to a degree in the countryside leading to the then Christian elite to call their customs, paganism, which means the country folk ways. Ironically, that’s where the old Roman religion ended up.

    • @Anonymous,

      This has got to be one of the more complex and sophisticated nihilistic or neo-pagan, or neo-seculaen revolutionary exegis I’ve come across in years. Actually it could fit on top of most revolutionary doctrines. Well it’s wrong, but you put a lot of work and logic into it and I guess that deserves some acclaim.

  5. It is a mystery why Jews constantly bear the term “anti-Semitism” as vocal weapon in their mouths. Incidentally, the term “racism” was also invented by a Jew (Cohencidence).

    The Jews say that “racist” Wilhelm Marr is to blame for this term. However, it was the Jew Moritz Steinschneider who adopted it and thus coined it, making it acceptable.

    Imagine if Anglo-Americans occupied Germany (happened) and labeled Germans as “anti-Germanic,” just as Eastern European Ashkenazim label much more Semitic Palestinians.

    • > Incidentally, the term “racism” was also invented by a Jew (Cohencidence).

      While the über-Jew Trotsky accelerated the use of the term, the word is not the invention of the Synagogue of Satan. The inventor was a Yankee Army General by the name of Richard Henry Pratt, who was probably a nominal Protestant of some kind. The published quote from 1902 read like something a shitlib ‘Radical Republican’ (a kind of proto-Marxist) would say: Association of races and classes is necessary to destroy racism and classism. The problem (the equality lie) was already here by the 1840s, before any significant Jewish presence. Jews became the biggest broadcasters of the term starting around 1920. Trotsky kind of gave them the basic strategy during his 1917 visit to NYC, by then already a den of vipers.

      Here’s Pratt’s most famous quote (about the American Indian):
      “A great general has said that the only good Indian is a dead one and that high sanction of his destruction has been an enormous factor in promoting Indian massacres. In a sense, I agree with the sentiment, but only in this: that all the Indian there is the race which should be dead. Kill the Indian in a person, and save the man.

  6. I guess this incoming get-rid-of-all-those-Jew-haters czar must have issued DJT a 1000 or so bonus get-out-of-jail-free points since all the “nice things” DJT said about Rob “Meathead” Reiner today would be considered antisemitic if any one of us posted them. “Nice” to see that “1984” style thought crimes don’t really apply to Big Brother DJT but MTG, Massie, Tucker, etc — their impunity is not so much…

    AFDF — America First, Dixie Firstest

    • Did Christianity cause the fall of Rome by turning the population into weak pacifists who yearned to be replaced? The answer is no.

      The Eastern Roman Empire survived for another thousand years. Nothing resembling liberalism ever took root there. The Byzantines tortured countless people to death. The worst incident described in the video was when Justinian had tens of thousands of people slaughtered in the Hippodrome

      • And then there is also the case of (already Christianized) Roman Britain – the legends associated with King Arthur testify with what energy the Romano-Celtic population fought against pagan invaders. They were ultimately defeated, but they had sold their skins dearly, and partly survived on in places like Wales.

        Edward Gibbon showed some patriotic pride in comparing the way the Britons fought against the Saxons with the manner that continental Western Roman Empire just supinely surrendered to barbarians:

        https://ccel.org/g/gibbon/decline/volume1/chap38.htm#resistance

        “While the continent of Europe and Africa yielded, without resistance, to the barbarians, the British island, alone and unaided, maintained a long, vigorous, though an unsuccessful, struggle, against the formidable pirates who, almost at the same instant, assaulted the northern, the eastern, and the southern coasts. The cities, which had been fortified with skill, were defended with resolution; the advantages of ground, hills, forests, and morasses, were diligently improved by the inhabitants; the conquest of each district was purchased with blood and the defeats of the Saxons are strongly attested by the discreet silence of their annalist. Hengist might hope to achieve the conquest of Britain; but his ambition, in an active reign of thirty-five years, was confined to the possession of Kent; and the numerous colony which he had planted in the North was extirpated by the sword of the Britons. The monarchy of the West Saxons was laboriously founded by the persevering efforts of three martial generations. The life of Cerdic, one of the bravest of the children of Woden, was consumed in the conquest of Hampshire and the Isle of Wight, and the loss which he sustained in the battle of Mount Badon reduced him to a state of inglorious repose.”

      • The Byzantines had a few good generations of thriving after the fall of Rome, but it suffered badly as the Sick Man of Christendom in the last centuries of its existence, usually incapable of coping with the Islamic juggernaut that tore through its territory with a lot of impunity. The Crusades began as an effort to relieve the Eastern Romans from the brink of destruction, and in the Fourth Crusade the Byzantines could only sit and watch as the Crusaders turned against them, sacked Constantinople, and imposed Latin Catholic rule for a few decades. TBH, Muslims seem to have a much better track record of getting their sh!t together than Christians do, indicated by the pervasiveness of shariah in many parts of the world juxtaposed to the abandonment of substantive Christianity throughout the West.

        • To be fair, they did a pretty good job all things considered. The Byzantines aka Eastern Romans existed for 1,000 years after the fall of Rome. It was the most advanced state in Christiandom until the late Middle Ages. While it stood it allowed the West to recover protected by the Hispania peninsula and the Pyeness at one end and the Bosperous and Constantinople at the other end.

          During that time it was outnumbered against all the powers of the East and the Steppe. It had to fight Pechenegs and others of the Steppe on one end and Arabs and Persians on the other. After the catastrophe of the Plague and the Sassinads it basically stood alone facing the entirety of Islam.

          From about 800 AD until the 1000s it was on the offensive going almost as far as Jerusalem and into Iran, crushed the Pechenegs and recovered all of the Balkans and Anatolia. Then it did something stupid, it disarmed it’s populace and reduced its military and concentrated on domestic social issues. Sound familiar?

          So it got overran a second time by a horde of Asiatics known as the Turks who converted to Islam, declared jihad and basically slaughtered everybody who didn’t submit in Anatolia. That’s when the Crusades got going. But, by then the Byzantines had suffered huge demographic losses.

          It recovered yet again. Got about half of Anatolia back. But it was never the same. Still besieged on all sides it slipped into being a highly regimented, overly bureaucratic orientalized and weird despotic state. Gutted of its elan it lacked the will at the national level like the Western Europeans had but still managed to hold on even then for a couple of hundred years.

          You are right though about unity. Competing geopolitical conflicts between Eastern and Western Christians, dynastic struggles, and the continued demands by the Papacy that the Eastern Christians submit to his authority kept true coordination from occurring.

          Nonetheless, but for the Byzantines standing to the East, the rest of Europe wouldve fallenna couple of times to either the Steppe, the Moslems, or both. In fact the Turks went on after conquering Constantinople to invade Central Europe. But by then, the Western Europeans had recovered and eventually drove the Turks back despite their own incessent wars especially the religious wars of the Counter Reformation.

          Churchill understand this grand civilizational struggle and he always thought the future security of Christian Europe required the recapture of Constantinople. He was thwarted by Ataturk and later geopolitical enemies like the Bolsheviks and Nazis in getting that prize. Today, Europe is disarmed again, concentrating on social issues, forgotten it’s old military and civilizational elan and has millions of Turks, Kurds, Arabs and other Moslems inside of it. History doesn’t exactly repeat but it does rhyme.

  7. Hmmm, I think Hunter is restrategizing and regrouping. Good.

    As a historian, I had briefly heard of this event, but thought it occurred in a theater and not a public spectacle and was a very random event. I was unaware of the sheer brutality of it which is horrendous. Yes, there were some deeply dark and twisted things in the Byzantine Empire. It ultimately proved fatal to it as thesenthings ate at the heart of his civilizational soul and made it difficult to fight against Islam and it’s many enemies. It should be a salutory lesson for us to not make the same mistakes.

    • You should get your own blog,
      NEO CON ARTIST WARMONGER,

      nobody would read your dribble.

      People like you destroyed Constantinople,
      and you are working on destroying what is left.

      You call yourself a historian ?

      “It’s the Papists”

      Quoting ” JOSEPHUS ” ?

  8. Full Verity means absolute truth. The truth, or this person version of the truth is we are all animals and there is no God. Salvation, The light of God comes through faith and faith alone, you must believe with all your heart in Christ to find God and the meaning of life.

  9. This argument is akin to showing us pictures of churches with the gay pride flag flying and saying this proves Christianity is not opposed to homosexuality. If you want to understand Christianity, there’s no substitute for actually reading the Bible which “Christian nationalists” are extremely reluctant to do.

    Christianity is opposed to white people’s interests. Even “pro-white” Christians always put their Jewish cult ahead of white people’s interests. Thus, we have to ban abortion because Jewish God says so, even though abortion is mostly used by negroids, underclass whites, and libtard art hoes. We can’t have eugenics because the LORD said blessed are the meek or some s***. Those manly virile medieval Christians you like so much put the Jews in charge of the banking system. That idiocy is what happens when you hit yourself on the head with the hammer of religion, and particularly the longhouse religion of Christianity.

    • “Those manly virile medieval Christians you like so much put the Jews in charge of the banking system.”

      Do you know, my dear half-educated fellow, what the virile pagan Romans did with usury? They decimated their own “middle class” of land-owning free peasants with it, that’s what. (And that way also destroyed their military power, on the long run, because this class had been the backbone of Roman martial strength back in the days of their greatest toughness. The old-school Roman power of the days of Scipios could never arise from the unfree or half-free population of enserfed peasants.)

      Citing the 1911 edition of Encyclopedia Britannica:

      https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Usury

      “As in Athens in early times, the mass of the people were yeomen, living on their own small estates, and in time they became hopelessly in debt. Accordingly, the legislation of the XII. Tables, about 500 B.C., was intended to strike at the evil by providing a maximum rate of interest. Unfortunately, however, no alteration was made in the law on debt, and the attempt to regulate the rate of interest utterly failed. In the course of two or three centuries the small free farmers were utterly destroyed. By the pressure of war and taxes they were all driven into debt, and debt ended practically, if not technically, in slavery. It would be difficult to overestimate the importance of the influence of usury on the social and economic history of the Roman republic. In the provinces the evils of the system reached a much greater height. In 84 B.C. the war tax imposed by Sulla on the province of Asia was at first advanced by Roman capitalists, and rose within fourteen years to six times its original amount. It is interesting to observe that the old law of debt was not really abolished until the dictatorship of Julius Caesar, who practically adopted the legislation of Solon more than five centuries before; but it was too late then to save the middle class.”

      The Christian church laws never permitted usury. But the pagan-origin Roman Civil Law did! The anti-clerical classical historian J.B. Bury wrote:

      https://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/BURLAT/23*.html#ref46

      “In this connexion it may be added, though it does not concern the civil law, that the Church happily failed to force upon the State its unpractical policy of prohibiting the lending of money at interest.49”

      • ” what the virile pagan Romans did with usury? They decimated their own “middle class” of land-owning free peasants ”

        BEWARE:
        Some of those ((((Romans))) might not be so Roman as you think.

        • Roman ursury was the penultimate apex of power in the Roman Empire. It was centered on the Roman Senate. All Senators were non Jews. Some Senators were Christian. It didn’t become majority Christian until probably the late 400s. So, Roman usury was really Roman.

          This concentration of social, economic, and political power in the Senate was the cause of the Roman Republic Civil Wars to begin with and was never permanently solved. Eventually, the patriot elements especially in the military figured the only way to solve it was separate the Senate from control of military and many political matters.

          With this solution, what you had was the Roman nobles mostly stopped being involved in the military and instead concentrating on making money and ensuring the war machine stayed funded. In return they gained protection to pursue their society and intrigues.

          Politically, the military became dominant and it’s job was to ensure imperial trade and finance kept flowing to Rome and later Constantinople. All geopolitical maneuverings can be traced to attempts to seize or disrupt that trade and finance or defend it against usurpers. Eventually, the military was eaten up by Civil Wars and the foreign armies and nations were able to overrun the Empire, break up the trade and finance.

          Vandals controlling the African grain harvest is a perfect example of how the German nations figured out how to disrupt the Roman centered power structure. In Constantinople the Romans were able to hold on. Not so in the West.

          Yes, usury and economic conglomeration was the proximate cause which undermined Rome and caused its eventual downfall. Jews, didn’t play a role in this except in the margins such as running the ticket sales and some of the logistics of the games, all of which ended by the 300s. Roman usury was a Roman thing in which anyone else, including Jews, played a subordinate role. Italian banking is as old, perhaps even older than Jewish banking and second only to Babylonian banking.

      • Excellent points on how usury and it’s use by oligarchs to concentrate capital in them gutted civilizations. Well done.

    • “If you want to understand Christianity, there’s no substitute for actually reading the Bible which “Christian nationalists” are extremely reluctant to do.”

      Christian Nationalists who are overwhelmingly Protestant are well versed in the Bible. It’s the Papists who discourage reading the Bible, unless under their monotoring.

      “Christianity is opposed to white people’s interests. Even “pro-white” Christians always put their Jewish cult ahead of white people’s interests.”

      Totally ahistorical. Literally 10 years ago you guys were saying that Christianity was a White Man religion and we couldn’t use it to win the hearts and minds of Sand N@ggers.

      “Thus, we have to ban abortion because Jewish God says so, even though abortion is mostly used by negroids, underclass whites, and libtard art hoes. We can’t have eugenics because the LORD said blessed are the meek or some s***.”

      Abortion is murder. Period.

      “Those manly virile medieval Christians you like so much put the Jews in charge of the banking system.”

      Yes the Templars were Jews. Yes, the Banking houses of the Italian city states were Jews. Ahistorical nonsense.

      “That idiocy is what happens when you hit yourself on the head with the hammer of religion, and particularly the longhouse religion of Christianity.”

      Sure, when the Europeans united to fight the Ottoman juggernaut and defeated them it wasn’t thru Christianity. Ahistorical nonsense again.

  10. Gibbon covers all of this Roman Catholic religious perversion in depth. My favorites are the pole and column sitters. LOL.

    It seems both Augustine and Boethius consider Christianity to be an extension of Platonism/Neoplatonism.

  11. Barely 250 years ago protestant nations were punishing sodomites by drawing and quartering them. That was pretty rough, but standard procedure.

    • They burned witches and heretics at the stake also. In 18th century Britain, one could be hanged for stealing a loaf of bread. The execution was a big spectacle, as were the ones involving drawing and quartering. Things were very different in the past, often in ways that are hard to comprehend.

      • Yeh, that’s what they did to our own kind.
        Now, they pander and forgive every POC of rape, murder, assault etc.

        The worst of both worlds.

  12. Are the natives of Cuck Island beginning to come to their senses? Are some of them finally getting it though their skulls that their government is utterly evil and needs to be overthrown? The article is the usual propaganda from gaslight media of course, but the over 8000 comments are quite interesting. Just in case the worthless shitbags at the Daily Mail shut down and memory hole the comments – typical for the totalitarian regime of Cuck Island – Vox Day has a decent short list. Bet you’d never see things like this if Cheetohead ends up drafting Americans to go die for Israel – as 3 did the other day at the hands of the Al-CIA-duh/ISIS/Mossad head-choppers the recently in Syria.

    • The resistance against conscription in Western Europe only, is totally related to their opposition to the ruling regime. Once right-wing nationalists take over it will be a different story. The same will happen here. We already see a massive uptick in WHITE recruitment into the military under Trump, whose regime is rightwing Nationalist lite compared to the Europeans counterparts. Once things work thru our system, IF THEY DO, there will be even more of an explosion of recruitment. Eventually, we are going to have to fight a large and massive scale war against China, Latinos, and Sand N@ggers. So, conscription will come at that time. In the meantime, pray we properly prepare for war, rebuild our military and industrial base, and can effectively use our volunteer expeditionary forces to keep the enemy unbalanced while we build.

  13. As an Australian, I care nothing about the Bondi shootings. But I will say this; the government is now discussing stricter gun laws……but not stricter immigration laws.
    Outlawing guns usually means they only wind up in the hands of outlaws.
    Jews support diversity, action on climate change, LTQBAC rights, free trade, etc, oh but hello……they also support endless foreign wars abroad.
    I just can’t imagine why they’re loathed…
    Keith, Australia

    • @Goose,

      The guy promoting these new laws, like the group who promoted the first one after the massacre in 1996, are Papists, not Jews. Instead, Jewish children, elderly, women, and men were targeted by a couple of Sand N@ggers brought in by previous governments. In fact Albanese the Guido’s government gave the shooter additional and permanent leave to maintain and the South Australian State government gave this foreign multiple that is MULTIPLE firearm licenses knowing he was a dirty Sand N@gger. No Jews were involved except as victims. But, now you are all victims of more Papist tyranny and more Papist immigration, and more Papists Anarcho-Tyranny.

      • Aryan,
        White libtards are a menace in every white country. The irony is, most Jews are also liberal.
        One of the victims of the shooter was a human rights lawyer. I doubt he was helping Scots or Norwegians. Probably turd world criminals and illegal immigrants.
        Thankfully, these incidents often occur in leftist areas. They deserve each other.
        Keith, Australia

        • Goose Jr,

          Yes you are mostly correct. However, it isn’t monolithic. In Europe, the Jews are much more conservative than in the Anglosphere. The Jews outside of the US in the Anglosphere are also more conservative than the ones in the US.

          We in the US have a unique problem with them to overcome. It’s much more manageable in the rest of the Anglosphere and Europe. Right now the Jewish leadership in most of the those countries remain mostly liberal, but they are being purged. We are far away from doing that here in the US.

          People like Nick Fuentes aren’t helping that here in America. It is merely invidiously dividing the right-wing nationalists which already have the largest opposition. Instead, he’s providing ammunition to our opponents in the American Jewish Community leadership and population and they in turn are able to rally others against us.

          I think events like Bondi Beach and Bataclan will continue to swing the pendulum of Jewish thought towards Rightwing Nationalism in Europe and the Anglosphere. At any regards, they have far less influence there than here. Overall, you guys just have a couple of more shoves to make and the globalist order running your countries into the ground will collapse very rapidly. Just keep pushing.

      • Nope its Jews you IDF hasbara demon.Just like it was Jews who ended the White Australia policy in 1975.Keep saying it:Jews Jews Jews.

        • @RebelRogeringYourself,

          You keep it up, you might roger yourself to an insane asylum. The White Australia policy was almost already dead glby 1972, when it was formally ended on advice from coalition Papist members originally from the Democrat Labor Party, a splitist Labour movement contrived by US intelligence actors to divide the labour movement and wall it off with Papists from the commie elements.

          The true mortal blow came during the Chifles Ministry which was a Papist and Leftwing Ministry. It formally opened up Australia to non-British Europeans and even non-Whites. The successor BritProd ministry of Menzies reversed the non White part and out in additional restrictions to limit non-British. The Menzies ministry lasted for an astounding 17 years but often had to seek support from Pro Business and pro cheap labour parties and Pro Papist and pro Papist immigrant parties line the DLP. The later slowly ate away at Menzies Pro British discriminatory regs while Businesses and Anti Commies started allowing anti commie non whites to visit, educate, or even immigrate in some cases to Australia.

          The numbers of non Whites entering Australia during Menzies was small but due to his coalitin partners demands, the numbers of Papist Whites allowed to immigrate increase. That is why Australia today, though still majority Anglo Protestant has significant Papist crime organizations and has a Papist Italian OM trying to end what little access to firearms Australia still have for themselves.

          The final nail in the coffin of White Australia which already was mortally damaged was ended by a coalition Leftwing party. The result was the Queen was adcised to intervene and she dismissed Parliament and destroyed the ruling Leftist regime, an act the current King should do soon in the UK.

          Educating RebelRogeringYourself is a chore but I can’t help myself trying to do it. It’s the Anglo Prod Christian in me always trying to go and enlighten darkies like him.

  14. Hunter you can’t trust YouTube videos or even most books from the Jewish publishing houses concerning Rome or Byzantium.While racial filth like Julius Caesar did murder several million of my Germanic ancestors in their Frankish homeland and many other Germanic peoples elsewhere I have trouble believing the highly sexualized tortures attributed to them came from anywhere but a Jewish demons mind.And certainly the Byzantines were not obsessed with sexual torture and unnatural perversions.I imagine there were probably spectacles in which enemies captured were made to fight but not the hardcore things in those videos.I may be wrong but I do believe I smell in Jew in that woodpile.

    • Germans invented the modern porn and prosututin industry in Europe, with their kinky sex shows, which were the proto OnlyFans of their day and their sexcapades atop strange ghostly castles which were the epstein honey pots of their era. and Nazi parties, especially by Herman Goering were the biggest swinging parties of all time. They created a Frankenstein monster we must suffer under, even though we make fun of it today with g rated humor.
      https://youtu.be/nx8LjVmoSZk?si=LnjRN3RNgBJq5AYd

    • You are not wrong there is Jew in that woodpile.

      Study from 2025:

      Tracing human genetic histories and natural selection with precise local ancestry inference

      The ancestry and origin of the Askenazi Jewish have been subject to heated debate over the last two decades. Here we mapped our Ashkenazi Jewish as primarily Italian (ITA, 68%), followed by Levantine (LEV, 16.6%), Iraqi, Iranian, Caucasian & Turkish (ICT, 7.2%), Greek & Balkan (GBK, 2.4%) and Eastern European (EAE, 1.7%). This largely agrees with several reports based on both modern and medieval Ashkenazi Jewish DNA.

      To address this, we have developed Orchestra, a LAI model that can account for the genetic heterogeneity in recently admixed populations. Orchestra can work with reference panels made of many combined datasets. It is able to accurately retrace demographic histories of complex admixed populations, such as Latin Americans, and does so on a fine-grained regional scale. Further, Orchestra can be used to elucidate relationships between different populations. We offer a new lens into the ongoing debate about the origins of the Ashkenazi Jewish, supporting strong genetic ties to the Italian Peninsula.

      The close genetic resemblance to Italians accords with the historical presumption that Ashkenazi Jews started their migrations across Europe in Italy and with historical evidence that conversion to Judaism was common in ancient Rome.

      EEJ seem to be mainly Italian (Roman) in origin, which is easily understood, considering the historical evidence presented above.

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