If I understand these people correctly …
1.) SARS-CoV-2 is a deadly virus that escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology and was covered up by the Chinese government who locked down Wuhan and half of their country.
2.) Actually, it isn’t that bad though despite having killed nearly 30,000 Americans in a month in a near total national lockdown. We had the intelligence that it escaped from the Chinese lab, but our billionaire donors decided in February to “ride it out” and think of a new SARS virus as “just the flu.”
3.) We’re REOPENING AMERICA and sending people back to work where they will get the flu – the new SARS virus – which we just said escaped from the BSL-4 lab.
4.) The real issue that you should be mad about is religious freedom.
5.) Sacrifices have to be made like being “pro-life.”
6.) Everyone but Donald Trump is to blame for this.
This is one of the best summaries so far. By God I hope these people are once and for all discredited forever in the eyes of many. It’s events like this that really should highlight to us that the mainstream conservatives are just as insidious as the Left. Even if we go with the lightest estimates of the lethality of this disease, these people are literally advocating risking the lives of the 70+ demographic for this fake and gay economy we have today. A giant chainsaw to this >80% White demographic, and generally conservative leaning. Some fucking thanks. Some of this demographic fought in Europe to inadvertently set up this shitty system too. But now they must once and for all die in service to big J-capital.
You’re making the same strawman argument I’ve seen over and over again. My parents are in their 70’s and I don’t want to risk their lives, but I also can’t risk my children’s lives. $1200 Trump bux doesn’t cut it for most Americans. The economy isn’t just the stock market, it’s my job and it’s my parents business that my sisters run, asshole. You whiney little bitches really need to start living out in the real world like the rest of us.
That’s the thing Jim, most of those types don’t live in the real world. Most everything, for them, is just an abstraction (as well, many of them likely don’t even had a job to begin with – and highly likely someone else is paying their way, and their bills for them …
Let’s just see how gung ho they’re going to be with their collapse fantasies when their lives are seriously affected by lack of money, and other resources, like to buy food, or pay their internet bill (both activities of which they do in round-the-clock abundance).
“. The economy isn’t just the stock market, it’s my job and it’s my parents business that my sisters run, asshole. You whiney little bitches really need to start living out in the real world like the rest of us.”
“That’s the thing Jim, most of those types don’t live in the real world. Most everything, for them, is just an abstraction (as well, many of them likely don’t even had a job to begin with – and highly likely someone else is paying their way, and their bills for them … ”
They’re just childless single men who masturbate to anime, they’re not serious political players right?
If anything you two are the ones living a fantasy world, crafting a fake opposition of losers in your minds while thinking you can create political change without sacrificing any of your comforts. Thinking you can just ignore a virus and hope it goes away,, like a child putting a blanket over his head to ward off the boogeyman at night.
Open your eyes, things are already changing and this conservative, Pax Americana mindframe you hold is outdated and in the process of being replaced. As we used to say back in 2015/2016, RIDE THE TIGER!
No. I’m losing money too. But you are defending the right to perpetuate the system that screws you during good times and the bad times. I’m sorry that you and your family are suffering as individuals. But if we had a real country, the outbreak likely would’ve been contained much earlier or prevented in the first place. If it did occur, you would have been covered by a system interested in the wellbeing of its constituents.
But we don’t have this. All we stand to go back to is the same bread and circuses. It may actually be better if the economy tanks and we all lose our jobs. We would find a way, we did during the Great Depression (minor impact on suicide rate only). I’m not sure of this but it’s interesting to contemplate, and I somewhat like the idea of losing the fear of being doxxed.
Did not Trump prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that reform within the confines of the current system is impossible? Does this not lead to the conclusion that some hard times are going to be necessary to propel some people to lose faith in the system so that it can be deconstructed?
The narrative that is isn’t a big deal doesn’t benefit us and isn’t really back up by the facts that this virus is not “just the flu”. Of course the lockdown is going to be politicised. Doesn’t make it fake.
It doesn’t actually. The system works for most White folks. What needs to CHANGE is the people in charge of it, which can be done through reform as opposed to revolution. We need to move the Overton Window first and get White people to put enough pressure on the system to change the leadership, but no, we do NOT need to burn the system down or let it collapse. That’s insane, and it would greatly harm the White Race while utterly destroying the credibility of the Pro-White Movement, which cheered for and supported the collapse.
This is the equivalent of arguing that because we can’t fly, we shouldn’t even bother walking. Every Pro-White conservative gets that in an ideal world, we’d have immigration restriction policies in place which would have prevented Chinese nationals from ever bringing over the disease in the first place, and we’d also produce all of our goods and services domestically, which we are capable of doing, thus preventing us from being entangled in all these globalist trade networks. We all know that. But guess what: Even though we don’t have the necessary immigration and trade laws, we still have daily lives to worry about, and those daily lives are dependent on the economy being stable. Those are the cards we’ve been dealt. We don’t get to throw the cards on the table like whiny brats, scream about how we got an unfair deal, and expect to be able to feed ourselves or take care of ourselves. That’s not how the real world works.
I could just as equally argue, as Hunter has pointed out, that the true accelerationist position is to let this virus take its course. If you’re going take the mantle of accelerationism, than you might as well go with whichever route is most likely to lead to social collapse, right? But no. You don’t actually want social collapse. You’re a pretend Seige poster. You just want to crush the economy because you hate that someone, somewhere, is out there enjoying a Big Mac.
There’s really no point in someone like you being Pro-White, as most White Americans do not share your tastes or your values. Surely you’ve figured that out by now.
But no. You don’t actually want social collapse. @DP84
That is so true. That might involve some actual, personal risk, rather than just abstractive ones.
Too many people in general, but with leftists in particular, are simply motivated out of envy, and want to see others torn down, often out of spite and malice.
The only ones screaming and throwing their cards on the table like whiny brats are people like yourself. Anyone who has been following this since Feb or earlier already bought a good amount of supplies. In fact, a lot of the problems you people seem to have are financial. Why not just demand UBI or Rent & Utility waived? Why send people out to catch a terrible disease instead? Most illogical.
Anyway, I’ve posted enough about COVID today, I doubt anyone of you will understand it though but it was fun while it lasted. Stay mad, just make sure if you get the disease you only get yourself killed so society doesn’t have to suffer for your stupidity.
A great series of counterpoints and rebuttals, DP.
Cool it with the ad hominems. I’ve never read Siege, lol. And I do live in the real world, thank you kindly. In fact I have a well-paying blue collar job that is surely be affected by this epidemic as I’m losing the OT that I’m use to. Long-term it’s questionable whether or not I have a job, based on the contracting economy. I have a family that I am responsible for also, as the sole income earner. I’ve accepted the reality that lockdown or not, it’s going to be bad. Either the economy is deliberately slowed, or even the impact of the deaths of 100k people or more is going to do real damage.
I did say that I’m unsure of whether or not the collapse really is ideal, just that some hard times are necessary. I don’t think this means economic collapse should be cheered on generally speaking. I rather view it as somewhat inevitable going forward, it’s more of a question of how to make the most of it when it does happen. In this case it is a rapid adjustment. But by all means I believe we currently do live in hard times, and I’m extremely irritated by my friends – who work $20/hr manufacturing jobs, are married with kids and struggle to pay bills – believe in the president and that we have the greatest economy ever and rah rah rah. Despite the fact Trump hasn’t done anything of real note for native Whites. Our health insurance now is completely garbage – high deductible plans with OOP maxes of $12000 per family. If you’re working class you have to send your kids to be terrorized by clown world in public schools. I don’t know want these people to suffer, they are my friends and I care deeply about them, but I’m amazed at the level of delusions that’s possible. Breaking their faith in the legitimacy of the existing seems a pre-requisite to making real progress.
I don’t buy this old Overton window theory, though. As the country goes further and further non-White, achieving political change through reform becomes even more increasingly difficult. Donald Trump was one the window-movers had high hopes for, and we see how that has turned out. I’ve barely seen it move at all, if not further in the direction of embedding Israel worship more in the mainstream right than ever before.
It is apparent to me that within the confines of our own racial community, that more and more people are aware of anti-White bias. I see this in my dealings with folk all around the country. But on the political arena, I see no repercussions outside of some more tactical race-baiting when it suits a Republican candidate. So it isn’t enough. The experiences of James Allsup, gayboy Fuentes, etc etc, show that we’re not going to be able to form a legitimate faction within the existing political structure. What is the path forward? I don’t know. I just know this hasn’t worked.
“The system works for most White folks.”
1. “White folks” have become acclimated to a system that works less well than it did before the ’70s. Hamburger is better than hardtack. Hardtack is better than nothing.
“What needs to CHANGE is the people in charge of it, which can be done through reform as opposed to revolution.”
2. Pipe dream. The people that matter are invested in the financialized, global economy and its stock market. All Blight Wing factions openly or tacitly support this system. Trump and the coronavirus has proven that Blight Wing support for Main Street was a charade intended to mislead Wall Street’s losers into believing that a return to Main Street was desired or possible.
“We need to move the Overton Window first and get White people to put enough pressure on the system to change the leadership”
3. Pipe dream. 55+ years of failure by Wall Street’s losers and reform advocates says there is no reforming a system over which they have no control.
“but no, we do NOT need to burn the system down or let it collapse.”
4. No white man will burn down a system that reliably places food on his dinner table. For losers ostensibly “opposed” to the system, underemployment and hardtack is better than nothing. The coronavirus has proven that “pro-white” losers are incapable of suffering a temporary reduction in the flow of hardtack.
“That’s insane, and it would greatly harm the White Race while utterly destroying the credibility of the Pro-White Movement, which cheered for and supported the collapse.”
5. A collection of keyboard commandos and hobbyists is not a movement. “Pro-Whites” have no credibility, nor will they gain it. No far-sighted, comfortable person is going to join a “pro-white movement” that could interrupt the flow of hardtack to his dinner table. He might, of course, seek to exploit “pro-whites” of lower intelligence to meet sustenance needs if he has experienced a “falling-out” with the system.
“Even though we don’t have the necessary immigration and trade laws, we still have daily lives to worry about, and those daily lives are dependent on the economy being stable.”
6. Immigration and trade laws would temporarily interrupt the flow and increase the price of hardtack to dinner tables. Unlike “pro-white” advocates, leftists and cuckservatives have the intelligence to realize that truckling and sycophancy is rewarded by less stress, greater status, nice homes, and socioeconomic segregation from the riff-raff. Any change in immigration and trade will be politically expedient, cosmetic, and temporary.
I got you to confess the point I was trying to show you people:
Shoot. Hunter, please delete the all block text comment. I screwed that up. Trying again
I got you to confess the point I was trying to show you people:
Boom. You view this as a bad thing, I view it as a good thing, but either way, you acknowledge the reality of the situation. It is precisely because this system keeps our bellies full that I insist on defending it. Sure, there’s a better way. A system can ALWAYS be improved. But under no circumstances will I or any other sane White person support burning down the system that feeds us.
Quite so, and at this point, I’ve made peace with that, because guess what: The whole point of securing the existence of our people and a future for White children is so that our race can be safe and comfortable.Screw struggle, poverty, hunger, and misery. We have developed beyond those things, and there’s no going back. Comfort and security today, comfort and security tomorrow, comfort and security FOREVER.
I’ve always been against that mindset because there’s no honor in sycophancy, and until COVID-19 happened, I believed it wasn’t worth it to lose one’s soul in order to gain material prosperity. But you know what? As much as I hate the people in charge of this system, now that the supply chain keeping all of us alive is under threat, I get that mindset now. It may be dishonorable, and I hope to see the White Race stand up for themselves as Whites one day, but right now, the priority is maintaining all those things you mentioned, most notably, socioeconomic segregation. Our race had enough common sense to flee for the suburbs when forced integration happened. The longer that’s maintained, the better. At the very least, I hope its maintained until I’m gone from this world.
Good points that none can deny, Mr. Crawford – no matter upon which side of this issue one stands.
“I’m losing money too.”
An all-but-complete lack of economic exchange is about more than “losing money,” fool, or haven’t you yet had to slip out to your local supermarket at six in the morning, when it opens, just to get a dozen eggs if there happen to be any on the shelf?
Not me personally, but my wife, yes. To find eggs, toilet paper, meat, etc.
But now your narrative is what, the goal of the shutdown is to force us all into the Holodomor? How does that make any sense? The slow boiling frogs in their open air prisons was working perfectly to genocide us. Worker productivity per capita and the ability of the leaders to extract that is much more efficient under liberal capitalism than it is police state communism.
Okay, so it’s right in front of your face–yet you don’t see it. Your wife has to slip out to the supermarket at six in the morning to find “eggs, toilet paper, meat, etc.,” but you think the screws are being put to “big J-capital.” Another white man with a plan.
I don’t have a fucking “narrative.” I don’t think the shutdown has a “goal.” I think it has CONSEQUENCES. Whether those consequences are worse than the consequences of no shutdown would be, I’m not saying. I’m simply pointing out that what you’re saying has nothing to do with reality.
You don’t have a 6 month emergency fund after living through the “greatest economy ever in the history of the world?” Yah, we know Trumps corporate swamp couldn’t last 2 weeks without taxpayer funded welfare, but I’m surprised at the lack of preparedness by members of the party of personal responsibility.
YOLO…spend beyond your means…spend money before you even have it…IT’S THE AMURIKAN WAY DAMMIT!!!
These talking heads live in cocoons. They know they are most likely safe. In Graham is revealing a morbidly homicidal edge to her personality.
I am starting to think there are two pathogens.
One is a virus that kills 10% of Boomers and the weak.
The second is a parasite that encourages its host to try to spread the first, while repeating “it’s good for the economy”.
Very interesting question posed here in regards to Toxoplasma, which is a parasite that causes rats to lose their fear of cats.
“What possible benefit could it be to the parasite, to give the rat a death wish?”
Very witty, Miss Alanis – I loved your spikey humourous invective!
Yawn. Fear porn. The protestors in Michigan just opened up America. The garbage in that video – after Americans have suffered this totalitarian Commie lockdown lunacy, and after Americans see that the WuFlu is not what’s been said – the more ZOG’s BS will crumble. Every body is fed up already, excepting the crybabies who still think that are gonna git payed de FluBux.
NIGGERS take out ZOG’s stormtroopers. Rock throwing ghetto NIGGERS. Birds and kangaroos take out drones. Have you forgotten this?
I take it you do not have a customer facing job.
No. I don’t. But I have family member and pals that do. None of them has caught the deadly Chinese virus. After months and months of this. They’ve been out and about all along.
Weird. You’d think they’d all be dead by now. Or at least some of them. And we are all in Hot Spot regions, too. My sister and I both have regional allergies. We get bouts of bronchitis. She must be out an about all the time. She told me yesterday that she just went to an ER, because she’s having issues, and WAS tested for the WuFlu, and he is not infected! After months of running all over Hot Spots.
Ed- please stop with the pompous sloe-eyed Mexican looking man with red-rimmed eyes and goatee, like he’s had too much marijuana, and thinks he’s ‘revelant.’
People are a just cogs in a wheel to Trump, his Inner Circle of Jews and Wall St – all they care about is that the economy starts up again so that Whites can once again bust their asses working which equates to a bigger skim for (((them))) – “Welcome, my son, welcome to the machine” – Pink Floyd.
Based on this comment section, it’s an absolute fact that most people involved in this movement are just racist Republicans who want the status quo to continue. Pathetic. Imagine being such dolts that you’d let the GOP donor class, and Fox News shills, Carlson included, force you into a conflict with your fellow citizens about opening up, or locking down, when the obvious solution is to stay home, make them pay for it, and seize the little power they’ll have left at the end of this. Instead, even people that consider themselves above the average boomercon are arguing to resume work and activity while a deadly pathogen works its way through the population because you don’t want to destroy a wholly financialized economy, “communism”(which is really technocracy)and some sop to “religious freedom”. Also, if you’d paid attention, Carlson was bearing down on Murphy over the religious freedom of vile Hasid’s in South Jersey who care about no one, especially their goy neighbors. In the end, the GOP establishment gets the “alt-right” to do the bidding of Jews and against their own interests, this time their very lives!
“Imagine being such dolts that you’d let the GOP donor class, and Fox News shills, Carlson included, force you into a conflict with your fellow citizens about opening up, or locking down, when the obvious solution is to stay home, make them pay for it, and seize the little power they’ll have left at the end of this.”
You are correct, Dominick. Your statement re: staying home, making them pay for it, and seizing power at the end provides a blueprint of sorts for anybody willing to work on it. That was an example of leadership on your part.
Unfortunately the so-called Dissident Right are Republican tools for neo-liberal capitalism, first and foremost. Their “dissidence” is fake. Dumbass that I am it took me 50 years to fully grasp this, but now it’s out in the open.
That’s okay. In 2020, 2024, or 2028 (at the very latest) this “dissident” charade comes to an end, as it should. This is the price “pro-white” whiggerdom shall pay for its stupiditiy.
It’s not too late for the younger set to join the winners. For the pensioners, well, they’ll just have to find another hobby.
Join the “winners” unquestioningly getting their scraps left over from the elites? You’re basically saying we should be happy to exist as medieval peasants allowed to have bread if we don’t bother the vassal of TPTB.
Surely you jest! This is not rocket science. Status, excellent pay and benefits, a future pension, a nice house with serious equity, neighborhoods free of riff-raff (except one or two affirmative action tokens on every other cul de sac), hamburger and steak instead of hardtack, a boat, monster truck, a pretty wife; these things are not equivalent to medieval peasantry. However, if a comparison is to made, I’d say medieval peasantry is closer to how most rural “boys down South” live, except for suburbanites and members of small town cliques. These are billionaire leavings, true, but only for young winners openly propping the system and its narratives. 90+% of white boys in flyover country are unable to match this, especially if openly engaged in “dissident” politics. You know it. I know it. Quit pretending otherwise.
Yesterday’s peasant bread is today’s distracting shiny bauble. I don’t see naked materialism as winning, but as pathetic, empty and shallow. I agree opposing the system is a losing game in the US, UNLESS one allies with populist (which historically includes identity politics) movements.
Anyway, your comments are becoming contradictory. You seemed to have been advocating to burn the system down and go way to the revolutionary left in some comments, now you say give up and get your elite leavings. What do you believe? Are you going through the stages of grief related to the death of your previously-held beliefs?
I am changed from a month ago. Always I was blood and soil, never a racialist Republican cuck. When so-called “white nationalists,” queued by Rush Limbaugh and Chump, place GDP over people – especially white people – then it’s time for a parting of the ways. Do I grieve? Strong anger at the betrayal is a more accurate description.
I have a recommendation for you, something that would make you happier with life: Join the Democratic Socialists of America, or whatever your local lefty group is, and work on forming a coalition with Hispanics and Asians that will implement all of your desired policies. You’re wasting your time trying to convince most White people to join you, as most Whites are either moderate or conservative, and in any case, are not interested in DSA policies.
Of course, that would require an emotional sacrifice on your part: You’d have to give up any antagonism you feel towards Hispanics and Asians, and if nothing else, you’d have to stop complaining about mass immigration. But ask yourself: Isn’t it worth it to give up opposition to immigration in exchange for universal healthcare student debt forgiveness, paid sick leave, UBI, and all sorts of other gibs from the government?
The truth is, there is a market for Democratic Socialist policies, but there is NO market for DSA policies attached to a racist philosophy of “keep the brown people out.” You have a good chance of getting your desired policies passed, if you simply walk away from pro-white activism altogether. Choose wisely.
Senator Kennedy is correct. Keeping every one locked in simply prolongs the inevitable, The lockdown merely delays what is going to happen.
I have said, since early January, that whatever this thing is got out of a lab. The very earliest info made this GLARINGLY obvious. The rate of infection is almost unprecedented; it is the Bubonic Plague in the way it spreads, given Medieval vs Modern travel methods. It’s not as dangerous as the good old Black Plague, though. Yes – when the lockdown ends the real rate of infection begins.
AND? Like it wasn’t gonna happen anyways.
Ya’ll act like you can stay in locked up in your houses forever. Is that what you think? That you can all stay inside, or on your property forever? Did ya’ll fall on your heads, or something?
Meanwhile – the Hebes are looting everything that’s not nailed down, and lots of things that are – and you have CRAZY, power mad psycho bitches like that FREAK “Governor” in MI “legally” preventing people from growing veggies from seeds in their own homes. The Michigan Protestors are HEROES, and SANE, unlike thousands of delusional whack jobs who think they can stay home and get paid.
Ya’ll were NEVER gonna get paid like Welfare Niggers. You know that, right? You don’t know that?
The Michigan Protestors are FUNCTIONAL LUCID HUMANS, who are perhaps the only type of person who should have the power to determine ANYTHING.
Lest any one think I am being careless or “blithe” about this – I’m not. I know I could get sick and die
C’est la fucking vie. Or rather – c’est la mort.
Jayzuz Tap Dancing Keerist – making arrangements to obtain simple household supplies is now akin to splitting the atom. I’m not going to live this way. And millions of other aren’t goings to continue in this wholly un-necessary mass lunacy EITHER. The longer this keeps up -the worse EVERYTHING is going to get. I’ll take my chances. Tucker was correct, at the end of the segment – poverty KILLS far more people than the Chinese virus.
You’ve going fishing, Hunter. Bravo. Food production is being destroyed – because farmers have no one to sell to, Slaughterhouses are closing because people have gotten sick. Those people will either get better – or die. That’s EXISTENCE. You live or you die. What do ANY of you think will happen when the food supply runs out?
Will ONE of you answer that question? What do you think will happen when the FOOD runs out?
Millions of Americans STARVED to death during the Jew created Depression. America was mostly White, back then. What do you think the HORDES of Dindus will hunt ,when they come flooding out of their ‘hoods? They don’t know how to live off the land. What do you think they will hunt? Take a wild guess….
ALSO I HAVE NOT SEEN ONE NOT ONE OF YOU WUFLU TERROR BABIES write one God Damned WORD about the Dancing Doctors, and empty hospitals, The fake data, The thousands of death attributed to the Gook Infection when no test was ever done. You Pandemic Porn Promoters have not uttered one syllable of contemplation or comment on all the weird evidence that contradicts IRL the Yellow Peril Pandemic WHY NOT?
More people recover from this thing, than perish. AMERICAN doctors have come up with real treatments, unlike the vile Gooks and absolute psycho monster like Gates, Fraudci, and the rest of the Israeli MicroChip Vaccine Brigade. So get ready for the lockdown to end, Crybabies. Time to grow up. Come out from under your blankies, and face the Big Bad Wuflu.
Ya’ll act like you can stay in locked up in your houses forever. Is that what you think? That you can all stay inside, or on your property forever? Did ya’ll fall on your heads, or something?
Like Jim T. just said, and I added, a lot of these types supporting these Orwellian lockdowns don’t live in the real world. Most everything, for them, is just an abstraction, and I think it’s highly likely someone else is paying their way, and their bills for them.
Let’s just see how gung ho they’re going to be with their apocalyptic, collapse fantasies when their personal lives are seriously affected by it, such as by a serious lack of money, and other resources.
Like you so rightfully said, they WILL NOT be collecting a government welfare check like the ‘coloreds’ do, and will.
“What do you think the HORDES of Dindus will hunt ,when they come flooding out of their ‘hoods?”
Denise, there are over a billion guns in America.
There are over 50 million who REALLY know how to use them. The dindus is will face the same containment they did in the LA riots, both 65 and 92.
Arian – Dindus face containment when Koreans are are around. What happens to Whites, who try to defend ourselves, now?
“Yes – when the lockdown ends the real rate of infection begins.”
Not if mitigation procedures are implemented.
……..where do you get the energy ?
You went to art college right? Interesting handle on the economics of this.
You want your answer Denise? Because nothing is worth getting this virus. Nothing. Every one of you Boomers who wants to send people back to work either know little to nothing of the virus’ potential, or you magically think your stonks are going to go back up by September, maybe get a taste of “back to normal” before the summer hits and you can go out with the family and enjoy it.
We’re seeing multiple reports of things that were speculated on in February, proving to be possible in April: Reduced Fertility in Men, Attacking of immunity cells, Permanent lung damage, Permanent damage to other organs, reinfection, death from organ failure possibly due to reinfection, etc. We’re only waiting to see if we can get a more concrete view on whether these things affect the majority of people or just a minority of them.
So you wonder why people aren’t responding to idiots who call this an empty bun? It’s because you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink it. Hunter has wrote a ridiculous amount of articles. Metokur has produced a good amount of videos. Many MANY people are taking it seriously, but it’s just not taking, so what’s the point?
Maybe some of you aren’t completely dumb and crazy and have a legitimate grievance like difficulty paying bills or not having a reserve stockpile of food. However, that’s more of an issue with government, Trump’s government, and not the fault of a strategic lockdown. The people in Michigan seem to be mostly Boomers wearing MAGA hats, not heroes by any means but Trump sycophants and certainly no one who posts in OD’s friend as they have demonstrated more than a couple times in the past.
You need to understand: there is no damn virus
In a way, it must be nice to live in such a bubble, floating around, free of care and anxiety.
Sure, Ben. You said it, so it must be true.
“We’re seeing multiple reports of things that were speculated on in February, proving to be possible in April: Reduced Fertility in Men, Attacking of immunity cells, Permanent lung damage, Permanent damage to other organs, reinfection, death from organ failure possibly due to reinfection, etc. We’re only waiting to see if we can get a more concrete view on whether these things affect the majority of people or just a minority of them.”
I hadn’t realized that. This sounds like a job for Bruce Willis.
Outlander – Is that stuff what the Jews New told you?
Tell me the names of the organ damaged people. You know – every one treated by the twerking Nurses. Thanks!
I wrote a long detailed response with many links but the page had problems posting a reply. So Ill give you the short version:
Here are some links about Organ failure dating back to February.
If you do not find them satisfactory enough, I encourage you to go back and watch the Metokur videos as this stuff unfolded in real time back in January or February. He will give you articles that you can find yourself and look into that occurred long before this thing hit the West that talked about what I mentioned above.
It’s convenient for someone who is taking a narrative straight out of Fox Jews to say that my opinion is influenced by the big nosed overlords. You wouldn’t have an interest in millions of White men and women going out getting injured, sterilized and killed just so the Chosen Ones can maintain profits right? If you’re going to put either side into the “What the Jews want” category, your position fits there more snugly than mine who wants to protect the health and lives of of Whites
I very much agree with you, Dear Miss Denise – it’s time to get back to business to life and making antibodies.
At this point, the dangers of a collapsing economy and food system are becoming real and that is much more serious than this Wuhan thing.
We’re going to have to ride this out and take our lumps along the way.
I am beginning to think President Trump’s instinct was right on this in the first place.
I just read your entire comment out loud to my wife, Dear Miss Denise – and she was cryin’, hootin’ and hollerin’ throughout most of it!@#$%!
She thinks you’re a dang pistol and just loves your no-holds barred take on the ways than iz!
Seems to me, if they remove this lockdown , wuflu cases and deaths will explode, increasing more than twice.
I think this is a indication of how much they fear an economic collapse, gdp dropping more than 40%. This massively debt driven economy stalls and crashes without constant payment input.
If there is a surge in wuflu deaths, it could cause ppl to panic and refuse to come out , causing an even greater economic panic than the current lockdown.
Throwing money at the airlines and ((BlackRock partners)) is not a real solution.
I see this as creating a greater problem than the current situation.
“I see this as creating a greater problem than the current situation.”
Well, then, get some eyeglasses.
“GDP,” “airlines,” “BlackRock partners”–where’s your fucking head? What about “milk,” “cupcakes,” “paper towels”?
You’re the very type of the useless white man whom members of (((a certain ethnic group))) find easy to manipulate.
If you want our society to remain shut indefinitely, I have to ask : ——- have you thought about what will happen to you if food becomes as scarce as toilet paper for half, or more, of the population?
Are you ready, and are all your famliy members ready, to make do with longterm disruptions of both water and electrical services?
Have you given any thought to what might happen to tens of millions of people in the 65-100 year range, if monthly Social Security & Medicare payments are diminished or come to a complete stop?
If you have not pondered this carefully, then maybe you ought, because if the economy continues to break down, it will not just be Wall St. which will be seriously hit, but every single Main St. of every town.
If you think this country, as an entirety, cannot fall into the abyss, then think again –
because history shows it can happen and does happen to every country on the globe.
Just because none of us have ever experienced a societal disaster of a 10 magnitude does not mean that it cannot happen here.
IT CAN HAPPEN … and … IT WILL HAPPEN, if we do not do what all societies, system & time in history irrespective, must do – consistently provide and distribute goods and services to, and for, everyone.
Moreover, economy aside : —– do you think that a country entirely habituated to, and set up for, mobility, can make a quick and successful psychological transition back to the static ways of the average farmer of our great-granddaddies’ time?
Do you know how to play non-electronic scrabble, read a reall book, or get by socially regularly gabbing with your analog neighbours? Do you know how to plant, raise, slaughter, preserve, and store food? Do you know how to get by weeks, or perhaps, at a time without a shower or a bath?
Maybe you do not wish to contemplate these questions, but, at the rate we are going, it might behoove you to do…
Leftists: “The economy is fake and gay! You can’t just have a system that functions on providing goods and services!”
Humanity: “Credit card go whirrrrrr”
Funny and pithy, DP!
Good questions. But I think that if were in the situation of facing water, electricity and food shortages, AND government payouts diminishing, we’d essentially be in a complete state of anarchy already and the US government would be facing multiple insurrections from many different groups.
The virus is already released and will find its way around the population. The point of the lock-down and social isolation is to prevent the healthcare system being overwhelmed so to increase the effective recovery rate. Indirectly this would prevent other people dying from a lack of emergency care for heart attacks, etc etc.
I see more people in favor of the potential chaos of just going on as if it didn’t exist, than those who seriously desire permanent shutdowns to collapse the system. I find both interesting to ponder. But most of us who are cautious in their approach to this virus and recommend others take precautions seem to take more abuse than the virus minimizers.
The thing is, people are ragging on about the economy, people’s jobs and shouting down anyone in favor of preventative lock-downs as “out of touch” or not living in “reality” or other BS. Meanwhile there’s a vast bipartisan consensus that tackling the virus and preventing its spread should take precedent over the economy. So who the fuck is really out of touch here?
Everything is a lie. If this virus escaped from a lab it changes everything. Of course it might also mean they have the cure. How else do you explain a Country with over a billion people having so few cases? Make America the biggest Shithole in the history of shitholes.
“How else do you explain a Country with over a billion people having so few cases?”
They lie !
There’s no social stigma with mask wearing and enforcement of quarantine, in China. The Chinese also have their savages under the thumb. They also keep their snarling selfish bitches under control better than western societies.
You really believe the chinks that they have only 3,000 deaths? There were funeral homes with backups of more than 50,000 urns of cremated chinese that they couldn’t process quickly enough to get them out. I think the death toll there is in the millions.
No, Legion, with respect : —— everything isn’t ‘a lie’, anymore than is everything ‘the truth’.
That is the complexity of being a soul in this world – sorting out the wheat from the chaff.
Ivan, so true.
Very complex to sort lies from truth.
Ivan & Arian,
Yes, great points indeed — especially the part about sorting out the wheat from the chaff.
Legion – all you do is write the same stupid drivel. YOU are the biggest shithole in the country. In ANY country.
What Jim T. says regarding hardship is true of a vast majority of people, and can’t be overlooked. $1200 is not enough to sustain a family and some folks are getting less due to the crime of being successful and earning more than $75k/year. Imagine a family with several children getting $700 for instance, to support them indefinitely.
At the same time, the idea that you’ll only die if you’re 70 hasn’t been true, we just had someone under 20 put on a ventilator in our state. The Gov. made a point of saying it since people are of course sick of being kept from life as usual, and they want to get out there and do what they need to do.
My business isn’t currently affected and I own my home so I’m lucky, but I can think back to when this would’ve been a disaster for me and my family in a very short time-frame. My cousin’s family had to shut down their business and it’s causing major hardship.
There was some jerk on my televitz advocating for the landlords, mortgage companies, and utility companies in the nearest big city here to go ahead as usual and expect rent after April lockdown is over. From people who have been out of work since March and it will take time for them to catch up on all their bills.
To have a lockdown for a long time requires—gasp—for some of that to be put on hold until people are safe. As in a moratorium on shekel collecting from working class people until everyone is on their feet.
But certain people of the vulture variety see it as an opportunity to grab houses, land, businesses, etc. If they don’t expect backlash from people they’re not very perceptive. People won’t just say ho-hum about being hungry, homeless, and naked for long. The chimp-outs will be multi-colored for a change.
More people are looking into getting off grid or as close to it as possible. The intentional community and homesteading groups are seeing huge uptick in interest in those kinds of things.
144,000 of the people who remain, living off the land and out of the smoldering city crudpile, perhaps.
There will be assassinations and bloodshed fairly soon.
People will work around official sanctions and rules. The crowd will decide the timing and the government will as always try to get in front of the general direction the crowd are going.
Btw if anyone has seen it #youclapformenow video on morgoths feed we have seen that the young women nurses and caring classes are the angels of death. Either they end up infecting and killing oldsters or they end up shopping until everyone else drops. The NHS appears to have fucked yo the response to a degree I find amazing and I’d like to audit these arrogant BAME nurses and physicians and the BAME virus load. Something is deeply wrong with the nursing structure in the UK and US. The response was a fucking shit show.
Sir Issac Newton “discovered” gravity while locked away in his country house during a pandemic.
@Krafty … the stinkiest manure makes the best mulch, which, in turn, makes the best crops!
Looks like we’re heading for a golden age of science …
Newton’s Law of Gravity has been disproven by the Nazis that found a huge magnet in the center of the Earth when they accessed it via a tunnel dug by Elon Musk’s Boring Machine from their Antarctic Base.