I’m going out of town tomorrow and won’t be back until Sunday. Don’t expect any new posts through the weekend. I can’t discuss the details, but I can tell you this trip is about building our community. It is my understanding that I will be meeting quite a few of you (readers and commentators) in real life. I’m excited and looking forward to our discussions.
We can’t build the White Nationalist movement behind pseudonyms and keyboards. As I know quite well, online relationships tend to be incredibily fragile and are no substitute for face to face interaction and friendships. At some point, a real world network has to emerge, and beyond that an organization to advance our common agenda.
“At some point, a real world network has to emerge…”
I completely agree. I’ve been saying it for years. Please keep in mind your readers in Euro-colonies such as Southern California. Enjoy the trip!
We can’t built the White Nationalist movement behind pseudonyms and keyboards. As I know quite well, online relationships tend to be incredibily fragile and are no substitute for face to face interaction and friendships. At some point, a real world network has to emerge, and beyond that an organization to advance our common agenda.
Amen. Good luck with your meeting.
Good luck.
Great news, Prozium. Hope it goes well.
I’ll be eager to see some real action for a change.
Don’t forget the (existing) libertarian paradise on the high seas:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/sep/10/messy-pacific/
Time to get territorial. Come back with some concrete proposals.
Give a big Brokeback Mountain hug to “Terrible Tommy” Metzger for us here at TGBMFJFT (Transgendered Black Muslims for a Jew Free Tibet). We’re ready, willing and able for some coalition building.
“We can’t build the White Nationalist movement behind pseudonyms and keyboards. As I know quite well, online relationships tend to be incredibily fragile and are no substitute for face to face interaction and friendships. At some point, a real world network has to emerge, and beyond that an organization to advance our common agenda.”
Truer words Prozium, truer words.
Just a hearty thank you to all that you do on Our People’s behalf — thank you for all your EXCELLENT writings and NOT ASKING FOR A SINGLE PENNY in ‘compensation’
Essentially, tremendous thanks to you for not turning your site into A FUNDRAISING SCAM!!!
~
The Cold Equations: Is VDARE the $PLC of the right?
“While doing research for a forthcoming post, I found VDARE’s tax form 990 from 2007, which has information about its finances. That year, they received $566,187 from “direct public support.” Where did this money go?
— $50,994 was not spent, increasing their assets to $175,960. The vast majority of this money was held as non-interest-bearing cash.
— $133,980 for freelance writer fees. I guess this must include all of their writers, including the syndicated ones like Michelle Malkin, because I don’t see anywhere else in the form where that money could be coming from. That’s really not a lot of money when you consider that they usually have a dozen or so writers on the front page at any given time. It could be modest living for one or two of them plus a pittance for the rest.
— Peter Brimelow paid himself a whopping $378,418. Wow!
“I’m all for journalists and organizers making decent money. Peter Brimelow was a big shot at major magazines, and it’s a good thing to be able to attract people like that. That’s why I wasn’t too disturbed by DA King’s criticisms of VDARE, which were based on 2003-2004 tax statements, when Brimelow was paying himself about $170,000.” […]
http://thecoldequations.blogspot.com/2009/04/is-vdare-plc.html
Oops, here is the rest of the article –
“But paying yourself almost triple the amount that all of your writers put together get, when that amount isn’t very much to begin with? Excessive. In the same year, Morris Dees of the SPLC was paid $282,564 out of $33 million in revenues (there are other highly-paid racist-hunters at the SPLC, but none of them made as much as Brimelow, and the proportion of the total revenue spent on them is far lower). But VDARE regularly criticizes the SPLC as a fundraising scam.
“Unfortunately, VDARE is the alpha and omega of anti-immigration sites, and their loss would be felt. But it would be nice to see somebody else come along and do a better job. I hope that somebody will clarify this if I’m misinterpreting the data.
“Here are links to VDARE’s 990 from previous years:”
2006
2005
2004
2003
http://thecoldequations.blogspot.com/2009/04/is-vdare-plc.html
“Peter Brimelow paid himself a whopping $378,418. Wow!”
You’d think he could afford a better haircut.
I’m considering donating to VDare after Mr. Brimelow’s last article. He sounds like us.
“I’m considering donating to VDare after Mr. Brimelow’s last article. He sounds like us.”
I hope you mean this as a joke.
There are TONS more better men out there that deserve your money, Mark.
I spread my money around.
Just out of curiosity, who do you recommend?
“Just out of curiosity, who do you recommend?’
Mark,
Well for starters, ANYONE who does not DEMAND ‘donations’ — and shut down their website — as Vdare routinely does, especially around the major holidays.
If anyone deserves some assistance, it surely would be REAL MEN like Prozium and Tanstaafl, who do such a yeoman’s job of looking out for the interests of Our People … especially how they both routinely ‘depants’ so many pseudo-and faux-white DISSIMULATORS lurking in the blogosphere.
Faux-White
http://age-of-treason.blogspot.com/2009/09/faux-white.html
We need to add a new category of “White” “males” to avoid: The Career Girls, as Alex Linder so deservedly calls them — whose committment to ‘the cause’ is only out of concern for how much they can personally profit off the rubes.
Shame on these f-cking weasaly bastards. We are in the throes of the greatest dispossession as a race and as a People in Our history, and these bitches want to profit off our collective misery — essentially turning it all into a business.
They don’t deserve a single red cent. Additionally, they all should be BOYCOTTED.
Truth,
Thank you so much for those links. I’ve been looking for those Vdare tax forms every since the first time I saw them a couple of years ago and hadn’t been able to find them.
“Truth” didn’t link to Peter Brimelow’s response:
http://thecoldequations.blogspot.com/2009/05/vdares-defenders-respond.html .
Brimelow runs a different kind of operation from a blogger like Prozium or the others. He pays his contributors and consultants, he has a presence among the “big leagues,” he flies all over the place to attend conferences, he publishes books and monographs, etc. “Truth” is a mental midget with the kind of goyische Kopf stupidity that permitted the Jews to maneuver us into this mess in the first place. If this were my blog I’d delete “Truth’s” comments. Insinuating that Brimelow, who is as honest and as dedicated as the day is long, is a version of a crook like Morris Disease is beyond nauseating. You’re a piece of sewage, “Truth,” and you leave a stench behind you. Go fucking away.
Something stinks. Do we know if “Truth” is working for the $PLC, or some other Far Left group?
I have to agree with Fred here.
Are we supposed to believe just because someone is economically successful they’re some kind of criminal? That sounds like the left.
Linder and those associated with him will never get a cent from me.
I don’t think Brimelow or Vdare are in any way comparable to Dees and the SPLC. Brimelow’s travel expenses, for which money can only partly compensate, are enough to explain his compensation.
Let’s agree on this: no enemies who are White.
That doesn’t mean we don’t criticize or question Whites. It means we assume they are on our side unless they demonstrate otherwise. Anger and invective should be directed only outwards and at traitors.
I’ve donated to VDARE.com several times over the years, submitted a few letters, and corresponded with Brimelow. I can assure you, though in no way controversial, he is most definitely on our side.
There is no reason the tax forms shouldn’t be prominently displayed. We are investing more than just money in the man.
Why would anybody be opposed to it being public knowledge? He owes us the information as far as I’m concerned. I don’t think they are doing anything wrong, but there is nothing wrong with keeping people honest.
“Why would anybody be opposed to it being public knowledge? He owes us the information as far as I’m concerned. I don’t think they are doing anything wrong, but there is nothing wrong with keeping people honest.”
I agree with you there Dan.
Reading the article provided by ‘Truth’ carefully, which was from the ‘coldequations’ website, it says that Brimelow paid *himself* one year the $378,418 figure, aside what the writers were *already paid*.
Sorry, but that is an awful amount of money, money that is gotten from the common folks that is premised upon the promise that Vdare is about to “go bankrupt” if donations are not speedily forthcoming.
And again, does ANYONE else shut down their site begging for donations the way that site does?
To “Get Real”: 1) get a clue; 2) get lost.
Get Real: to answer your question, antiwar.com is constantly sending me emails telling me how they are on the verge of closing down if I don’t hurry and send my few pitiful shekels.
Brimelow had a conniption fit over E. Michael Jones’ talk at the Sam Francis memorial. He named the Jew and Brimelow didn’t even want his picture taken with Jones afterwards. Jones publishes books, too, and puts out a monthly journal. I’m pretty certain he’s not pulling in anything close to what Mr. Brimelow pays himself.
“The best example I can give of this phenomenon is the speech I gave at the Sam Francis memorial at the National Press Club in Washington in March 2007. I have no idea why I was asked to speak at this conference. There were many people not present who knew Sam Francis better than I did, but asked to speak I was, and speak I did, and the results of my speech were such that once it was over Taki announced to everyone present his fear that we were all going to be arrested for what I said. Beginning with Peter Brimelow, one speaker after another after another marched to the podium to denounce me. Spies from the SPLC were also in the audience but refused to mention the split my words had caused. In the end, they denounced me being “red-faced and shouting” and predictably accused me of anti-Semitism, even though I explicitly condemned anti-Semitism in my talk. And all this came from a talk in which I was trying my darndest to be irenic and build bridges between what I saw were separate factions making up the conservative movement. Just think what might have happened if I had set out to be eristic instead of irenic! As it was, my wife had to brandish her umbrella in Sam Dickson’s face to keep him from storming the stage and attacking me.”
http://www.culturewars.com/2009/Encounters.html
Here’s Brimelow’s latest article (“Yes It IS About Race, Quite Right Too”) for those interested: http://www.vdare.com/pb/091006_race.htm
It’s more aggressive than usual and ends on a strong note. Takimag also has been flirting with “peek-a-boo” WN lately. As blogs like this one, Kevin MacDonald’s Occidental Observer, and the HBD sites make race an explicit issue, VDARE and Takimag are forced to keep up.
As usual, there’s a small and independent vanguard that moves the discourse forward. WN’ists are the pioneers, blazing a trail through the wilderness that the conservatives and arm-chair fatties can use to come panting behind, eager to take the credit!
Btw: Great work lately, Proze. I hope your current networking efforts are productive.
I will say flatly: anyone who attacks Peter Brimelow is a moron, a hindrance to our side, and really should go take a running leap.
Brimelow’s approach has succeeded in bringing decent, normal folks to racialism. Though his message is sugarcoated by our standards, I’d say anyone who can coax mainstream whites somewhat out of their stupor is to be commended. We need more people like Brimelow.
Indeed VDare and the paleocon circuit helped my racial awakening immensely. From VDare it was not a large step to MR or this site. Brimelow’s efforts can help lost souls find the missing pieces. I’m all for him.
That goes for “Truth,” “Get Real,” “whodareaswings,” and E. Michael Jones, among others. I don’t include Alex Linder in that: his combined attack Brimelow, Buchanan, Jared Taylor, and other good men was wrong but not motivated by the totally asshole-idiot reasons motivating “Truth’s” attack.
Brimelow’s even made it onto the local radio circuit getting live interviews where I live in flyover country. That’s how influential he’s been.
That’s how influential he’s been. – Me, above
And energetic.
Vdare.com was THE starting point of my awakening, Vdare and Steve Sailer both, starting in October, 2000. I still consider Vdare.com as THE central pillar of our entire undertaking. It is a faultless outfit, utterly without blemish. Anyone who attacks Vdare.com or Brimelow is what I said above, #26. I’d say much stronger stuff but 1) I want to be respectful of Prozium’s blog, and 2) mental retards, like Down’s patients, retarded cerebral palsy sufferers, and so on, are not fully responsible individuals. They can’t help it. So I’ll keep to a more moderate tone. Unless they persist.
On a higher note: Here is an interesting link to a genetic study of over 4000 European and Ashkenazim subjects. Notice the VERY clear genetic distinction!! Notice also how tight and small the Ashkenazim data cloud is.
http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2008/01/no-scientific-basis-for-race.html
Part of what made VDare so convincing to me when I first started my racial awakening was their ability to back up with concrete evidence every one of their claims. Quality is always spot on. There is a reason why there is a large price tag attached to running VDare: They work hard and do damn fine work at that.
You are right guys that Vdare did a lot to help ‘mainstream’ racialism, and they deserve a lot of credit for that, but it is still fair, as ‘danielj’ points out, to have an idea how donations are being spent.
“To “Get Real”: 1) get a clue; 2) get lost.”
To “Fred Scrooby”: 1) get f-cked.
You’re an asshole, Get Drool.
Always a shame when the low-IQ set shows up and starts polluting a good blog.
Stop drinking so much there Fred when your posting.
Your anger is getting the best of you.
I support Fred, above. VDARE.com was enormously influential to my thinking. Although, earlier, it was augmented by SF, Instauration, South African/ Rhodesian sources, FN, NF, French New Right, and BNP, among others. The fact that these mainstream figures at VDARE.com can say what they are saying without repurcussion–well, it is extremely inspiring! I will continue to support VDARE.com.
Well said Admiral.
Notice that everyone here BUT ONE that can discuss this issue calmly and without childishly and idiotically attacking eachother.
Im backing Fred!
Attacking Vdare/Brimelow is totally counterproductive.
Vdare is too milquetoast for my purposes but it does what it does well. However, I have to disagree with Fred, if Brimelow pulls in 400K while frequently crying that Vdare is on the verge of kicking the bucket, questions can be asked regarding Brimelow’s good faith and commitment. Additionally, it looks like he’s paying his writers peanuts.
I just read PB’s reply, it looks like he only makes a more reasonable 100K, which is very respectable but not outrageous like the 400K.
Until Prozium gets back from his week-end trip and does the right thing and deletes this entire portion of the thread outright, I’m posting Brimelow’s response, for all Downs patients, cerebral palsy sufferers, and escapees from Alex Linder’s ‘Tards Corral who’ve wound up here:
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“That goes for “Truth,” “Get Real,” “whodareaswings,” and E. Michael Jones, among others. I don’t include Alex Linder in that: his combined attack Brimelow, Buchanan, Jared Taylor, and other good men was wrong but not motivated by the totally asshole-idiot reasons motivating “Truth’s” attack.”
What they said sounds like what Lin would say. One in the same. Those statements are what you typically find at VNN.
A tard corral at VNN is redundant.
Am I the only one who naturally ‘woke up’ when I actually started thinking, instead of being ‘goaded’ by some racialist publication?
Nordmacht,
No, you’re not. I woke up after the May 2006 immigrant marches.
Am I the only one who naturally ‘woke up’ when I actually started thinking, instead of being ‘goaded’ by some racialist publication?
My awakening resulted from both thinking and reading.
What is really unfortunate is looking upon any one website and/or ‘leader’ like some love-sick school girl or groupie.
That’s when things really get sad … and embarrassing.
In fact, this is typical behaviour of emotionally-disturbed patriotards, which I guess are still attracted to many faileo-CONS.
You can see Get Drool intends to start making trouble here. Ban him, Proze. He’s a mental midget.