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1. Re: “preserve the British race”

   Speaking of preserving fictional races, what about Vulcans and Klingons? Naturally Spock a threat to racial purity, but Worf is also destroying Klingon unity!

   “The British Race”

   I’d say thanks for the attempts at humour, but these Judeo-Masonic jokes are very repetitive, and desctructive.

2. You don’t know what you are talking about Yo-Semite, especially since the Germans were the first ‘Weiße Angel-Sächsische Protestanten’ people themselves –

   […] The Germanics (Teutons) broke up into two groups, the Scandinavians (the future Vikings) in Denmark, Norway and Sweden, and the Germans (now split into Germany, the Germanic-dialect nation called Netherlands and the similar Flemish half of Belgium, German-speaking Austria and most of Switzerland; plus England (created by northern Germans from Angeln and Lower Saxony (home of recent chancellor Gerhard Schroeder), hence the Anglo-Saxons. […]

   http://www.barnesreview.org/html/_1_german_blood.htm

3. Jew-spew,

   I hope you’re not in Australia, surrounded by all those wicked Irish! Is the Celt some sort of Kryptonite to your Khazar DNA?

   “The Commonwealth” “The British Empire” — more Judeo-Masonic fronts.

4. The Australian embassy in Dublin states that up to 30 percent of the population claim some degree of Irish ancestry. Obviously before the 1960’s that figure would have been over 50%. And before the 20th century, esp. during the founding of that “English-speaking countr[y] in which the majority of the founding inhabitants were of Britsh [sic] descent and in which the ethnocultural core was Anglo-Saxon”, the vast majority would have been Irish.

   Since, supposedly, the Irish aren’t White, then obviously Australia must be a non-White nation. By this logic, Whites should all be deported and the Irish and their fellow Non-Whites should keep the “Anglo-Saxons” out!

   Or am I treating all this Jew-spew too logically?

5. You know what yo-semite, you don’t even know what your talking about regarding even the history of your supposed country, Britain.

   English, Irish, Scots: They’re All One, Genes Suggest

   … Britain and Ireland are so thoroughly divided in their histories that there is no single word to refer to the inhabitants of both islands. Historians teach that they are mostly descended from different peoples: the Irish from the Celts, and the English from the Anglo-Saxons who invaded from northern Europe and drove the Celts to the country’s western and northern fringes.

   But geneticists who have tested DNA throughout the British Isles are edging toward a different conclusion. Many are struck by the overall genetic similarities, leading some to claim that both Britain and Ireland have been inhabited for thousands of years by a single people that have remained in the majority, with only minor additions from later invaders like Celts, Romans, Angles, Saxons, Vikings and Normans.

   …

   As for subsequent invaders, Ireland received the fewest; the invaders’ DNA makes up about 12 percent of the Irish gene pool, Dr. Oppenheimer estimates, but it accounts for 20 percent of the gene pool in Wales, 30 percent in Scotland, and about one-third in eastern and southern England.

   Still, no single group of invaders is responsible for more than 5 percent of the current gene pool, Dr. Oppenheimer says on the basis of genetic data.

   He cites figures from the archaeologist Heinrich Haerke that the Anglo-Saxon invasions that began in the fourth century A.D. added about 250,000 people to a British population of one to two million, an estimate Dr. Oppenheimer notes is larger than his but considerably less than the substantial replacement of the English population assumed by others. The Norman invasion of 1066 A.D. brought not many more than 10,000 people, according to Dr. Haerke. …

   http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/05/science/05cnd-brits.html?_r=2

6. Kulaks Never Learn,

   A bit dodgy there, citing a “Dr Oppenheimer” and the Jew York Times…

   Still, you’re right to point out the obvious fact that the British Isles are very mixed up genetically and culturally, one way or another.

   If you believe that “Whiteness” (or “Blackness” ? or “Yellowness”?) is a key unifying element in a state or society, I disagree, but at least we should discuss facts and figures and history on sensible terms.

   Consider Arabs/Muslims. They also debate about whether they should be “Pan-Arabist” (including Palestinian/Lebanese Christians, and Arabic-speaking Copts and Berbers, etc), or “Pan-Islamic” (including Persians, and so on), or organized on the basis of ideology (e.g. Communists in Iran, Syria, etc).

   Japan also tried to unite East Asia under the idea that all East Asians had supposedly shared interests (“Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity). Other Japanese were isolationist.

   But obviously there can be no sensible outcome of any such debate if the arguments are based on fiction or imprecise terminology or pseudo-history.

   The role of someone like Jew-Semite is to just throw a spanner into the works, and get people to debate over nonsense and distractions.

7. Akira,

   Yosemite can’t spare more than 15 minutes per day to blog.

   Apparently he also has never in his whole life been able to spare 15 minutes to briefly peruse a quality history of Colonial America. Otherwise he would realize that non-British groups have been contributing to White America since the time of the earliest settlements.

   The English provided the largest single contribution to the original stock of White Americans, but the Scotch-Irish and Germans also provided very large contributions. The Dutch, Swedes, French Protestants and Czechs (Moravians) were also represented in significant numbers. Small groups of Protestants even arrived from as far away as Italy (Waldensians) and Poland!

   The Dutch founded New York in the 1620s, the Swedes were the first settlers of Delaware in the 1630s, the French Protestants began arriving after the 1629 fall of La Rochelle (thus the city of New Rochelle NY) and arrived in large numbers after the 1685 revocation of the edict of Nantes. The surnames of Massachusets patriot Paul Revere, South Carolina guerrilla fighter Francis Marion and Tennesse founding father John Sevier attest to the French Protestant contribution. The Germans began arriving in Pennsylvania in the 1680s. By 1776 they constituted a significant proportion of the population in every colony from New York to Georgia, with a reputation for hard work and peaceful manners. After the end of the War of the League of Augsburg in 1697, when commercial retrictions hurt the economy of Ulster and Presbyterians were excluded from Irish government positions, the Scotch-Irish began to arrive, settling the frontier from Northern New England to Georgia. They were highly over-represented in the Continental army, and their persistance in building new farms on the frontier in spite of the horrible danger of Indian attacks pushed our nation forward into the west. In 1767 Andrew Jackson, the epitome of White American manhood, was born into a family of Scotch-Irish immigrants in South Carolina.

   These diverse immigrants had 3 things in common:
   1. They were white.
   2. They were Evangelical Christians. (with minor exceptions, such as English Catholics in Maryland)
   3. They were willing to adopt the political traditions and language of the English colonists (with minor exceptions, such as the Amish who held on to their German language)

   These common traits enabled them to merge into a new, unique ethnic group – White Americans. Crevecouer noted how white people of various national backgrounds freely intermarried in America, creating “this new man, the American”. As Tom Paine truthfully said in “Common Sense”, not England alone but all of Europe is our mother country.

   When one province of our mother country, Britain, waged war on us, freedom fighters such as LaFayette and Kosciusko came to our aid from other provinces of our mother country.

   The American Revolution inaugurated a new period, in which immigrants began to self-select on the basis of their support for peaceful, orderly democratic-republican government: dis-illusioned French fleeing the French Revolution, Irish fleeing the collapse of the United-Irishmen movement, English frustrated with the failure of the 1780s reform movement (Priestley, Paine), and later Germans frustrated with the failure of the 1848 Revolution. As Evangelical Christianity had provided colonial era white immigrants a common culture which enabled them to merge into a new, unique ethnic group, so a shared commitment to democratic-republican political ideals helped the early 19th century white immigrants merge with White Americans.

   As the 19th century progressed and economic motives became the foremost consideration of white immigrants, the sheer numbers became unmanageably. Rather than intermarrying with the native born white American as earlier immigrants had done, immigrants began to cluster within ethnic neighborhoods. White America was in danger of becoming a patchwork quilt of competing ethnic groups rather than a united nation. This led to demands for immigration restriction, to ensure that immigrants wouldn’t arrive at a faster rate than they could be assimilated. Accordingly, the Immigration Act of 1924 set quotas for each European country. In general, the more a country diverged from America’s Evangelical, English-speaking norm, the lower its quota, but no European nation was excluded. (Asian immimigrants, on the other hand, were completely excluded.)

   By 1960, this seemed to be working. Intermarriage between the various white ethnic groups was increasing, recreating a unified White American nation.

   The cultural upheavals of the 1960s, particularly the 1965 revision of the immigration act, were a catastrophy for White Americans. The USA is now well on its way to becoming a patchwork quilt of every ethnic group on earth, all ruthlessly competing. All ethnic groups are encouraged to have ethnic pride, with one exception: White Americans. We are told to be ashamed of who and what we are.

   We refuse. We may be a people which has only recently come into existence, but we have as much right to exist as any, and as much to be proud of as any.

8. Whites Unite,

   I agree with just about everything you just wrote. I think you under-estimate the historic Roman Catholic role (perhaps E. Michael Jones would be the best recent writer to go to to find out about the interaction of Roman Catholics, Catholic communities, the Church, and Americanism, White society, American culture…) but obviously the decision-makers and elites have been predominantly Protestant. From my point of view, though, that’s a very bad thing, since Protestants are inherently self-destructive. I say that’s from confused theology. Anyway, look at Britain, Canada, white South Africa, the US, Holland, Sweden: all Jewey, Masonic; culturally and racially destructive; often based on economic exploitation (esp. usury), tending ultimately towards political globalism and cultural fuzziness; and often ‘notional’ states — even formerly ethnically cohesive nations like the NL and Sweden are becoming ever-more ‘notional’ and ‘conceptual’ (e.g., thinking such as, “‘We Dutch’ just means anyone on trad. Dutch territory, with a NL passport, who speaks Dutch, and believes in our Multi-Kulti ‘values blah blah blah”

   So my attempt to at objective analysis leads me to believe that this Evangelical Protestantish Whitish Europeanish nation you speak of is something destined only for the history books, since it contains the seeds of its own destruction.

   + + +

   Something you wrote is related to the Jewish USSR.

   You mentioned that Asian were excluded from the US. (properly, it should be “virtually excluded”).

   I believe that Russia and the US should be natural allies, since they share many aspects. The US and the Russian Empire were always multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-linguistic, but each with its respective dominant culture. Both are connected to but different from Western Europe. Something most Americans are unaware of is the multi-ethnic nature of the Russian Empire and the present-day Russian Federation, esp. the way that most minorities had and again have their own territories and local cultural and religious institutions.

   Anyway, as I said, I believe that the US and Russians should have been natural historical allies or at least with shared interests. But since the end of the 19th century the were driven apart by the Jews.

   Now that Russians (and most non-Jewish ethnic minorities of the Russian Federation) have mostly regained their nation/empire, yet again we see Russians and Americans driven to artificial conflict over Jewish machinations. Now, for example, in Georgia, Iran, Ukraine…

   One of the key events in the Jewish driving of the wedge between Russians was the 1910 Jewish-engineered US abrogation of the Russo-American Trade Treaty. The main “argument” for it came from the Jew-press and Jew-owned politicians, who said that the allegedly moral Americans should not do business with Russia as long as the Russians treated American Jews as Jews.

   Russia had (sensibly) discriminatory rules regarding Jewish entry into “Russia Proper” (i.e. East of Russian Poland), and rules about Jewish settlement and permitted trades etc in “The Pale” (a massive are from the Black Sea to the Baltics!).

   After the Jewish takeover of America, Washington demanded that Russia treat Jewish Americans as just plain Americans when issuing visas.

   Of course the “American” (i.e. Jews’ puppets) argument was absurd and hypocritical, since many parts of the US had racially discriminatory laws, and Asians were basically banned from entry!

   In fact, the Russians had Korean Russians apply for US visas, knowing they would be denied entry, and then pointed out how hypocritical Washington was to complain about “Russian discrimination.” Finally the trade treaty was abrogated, to the bewilderment of most Americans, who couldn’t see any logic in disturbing trade relations with a powerful neighbour just for the sake of Jews. Even today it’s still nonsensical, considering how much the US is the Jewish State’s nigger, and helps the Jews to discriminate against Arabs and Christians. Also the US has close relations with the Saudis, who forbid any Jew from setting foot in their territory, and have separate roads for Muslims and non-Muslims, and ban non-Muslims from setting foot in Mecca!

9. Sorry. To clarify, the reason the Jew-engineered abrogation of the US-Russian trade treaty is ‘related to the Jewish USSR,’ is because it was a major step in weakening Russia economically; in creating enmity between Russians and Americans; and in the propagation of the anti-Russian propaganda of the Jews (“Rampaging rapist Cossacks! “The fiendish inept Tsar!”) that seeped into the American consciousness, and which assisted in the Judeo-Masonic-Anglo-American destruction of the Russian Empire and enslavement of Russia to the Jews, and the American support for that enslavement.

10. A bit dodgy there, citing a “Dr Oppenheimer” and the Jew York Times… — Akira

    (LOL)

    Akira,

    Yeah, I hear ya there (especially with the NYT), but ‘Dr. Oppenheimer’ I believe is of German and not Jewish descent.

    Either way, much of the article was based upon the research of the British Oxford geneticist Dr. Bryan Sykes, and his book Saxons, Vikings, and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland.

    I don’t agree with everything Sykes hypothesizes upon, but he is still a fairly solid and respected researcher in Great Britain and Europe.
    __

    Yosemite can’t spare more than 15 minutes per day to blog.

    Apparently he also has never in his whole life been able to spare 15 minutes to briefly peruse a quality history of Colonial America. Otherwise he would realize that non-British groups have been contributing to White America since the time of the earliest settlements. — Whites Unite

    WU,

    Again, don’t take him too seriously at all, since it is obvious he has some kind of agenda and ulterior motives.

    You simply, as a rational and sane being, go for criminally advocating violence against a group (in this case – the Jews) and then do a complete 180 and then say they really ‘don’t matter’ that much after all… and/or then stupidly say that other White ethnicities are just ‘as bad or even worse’ then they are — LMFAO!

    Come to think of it, ‘yosemite sam’ is probably not even Jewish — since no Jew would write the blatantly stupid and completely contradictory things that he does — at least not be so apparently obvious about it.

    I am beginning to think that he is some kind of mixed-race hapa with a kind of psychological grudge and complex against real White men and their countries, of which he can never really be a part of — so to make himself ‘feel better’ he then cowardly attacks other White Americans by passive-aggressively insinuating they are not really ‘real’ Americans if they are not ‘completely Anglo Saxon’, like he isn’t. How apparent (as it is said in French) this ressentment is.

11. “You simply, as a rational and sane being, go for criminally advocating violence against a group…”

    That should read “You simply, as a rational and sane being, CANNOT go from criminally advocating violence against a group…”

12. Some more on Jew-Semite’s comments in relation to the Irish not being white and Australia being an allegedly Anglo-Saxon nation:

    British and colonial populations are so inter-mixed that it’s actually impossible to quantify just how Irish any population is.

    However, to get an approximation of the Irish identity of Australia, in 1891, 7.2% of the population was born in Ireland. Add that to the masses of Australin-born Irish, those with, say, at least one Irish grandparent, and the obvious large numbers of England- and Scotland-born immigrants who were from Irish families, I’d guess that 75% of Australians in the era of settlement and state-formation. [The Commonwealth of Australia and the Federal Constitution were proclaimed on 1901.01.01.]

    Therefore, it was fair of me to apply Jew-Semite’s “logic” and demand that the allegedly non-White Irish and their fellow black Aborigine allies seize control of their Australian territory and evict the interloper “Anglo-Saxons”!

    Jew-Semite sounds a lot like the Jew pseudo-Christian Lawrence Auster, who propagates the ‘ideas’ that the Irish are non-Whites, are destructive to Britain and America, are naturally terroristic, debased, depraved, and have dual-loyalties and are ever submissive to Rome; but Jews are true Whites, constructive, creative, the most pro-American and pro-British chaps you’ll ever meet; and similar Jew-spew, such as how your Eye-talians and Spaniards are never to be trusted and are basically “negroid”.

    The Slavemason government-agent Arthur Benjamin Kemp spreads similar manure all over the BNP, preventing rational responses to the Lab-Con’s Masonic subversions.

13. Where’s this “Anglo-Saxon” Commonwealth nation that Jew-Semite claims to reside in?

    http://www.thecommonwealth.org/

    Pakistan?

    Nigeria?

    The Canadian Prairies that were settled by Anishinaabe, Cree, Metis, Irish, Scandinavians, French, Basques, Bretons, and Ukrainians before thje Anglo-Judaic managerial class and banking elites moved in as parasites?

    Where could it be?

    Singapore?

    Gambia?

    Tuvalu?

    Jamaica?

    It’s a mystery.

    Is he talking about Rothschild’s puppet Lord Rosebery’s Commonwealth, or Rothschild’s puppet Lord Balfour’s Commonwealth, or Rothschild’s puppet Lionel Curtis’ Commonwealth?

    Is Jew-Semite a proponent of the Jews’ slave and Chief Druid Winston Churchill’s New Commonwealth Movement? [The New Commonwealth was a society which aimed at the creation of an international air force to be the arm of the League of Nations, to allow nations to disarm and safeguard the peace. Some of these ideas were reflected in the United Nations Charter.]

    Is Jew-Semite actually Kamalesh Sharma?

14. Akira,

    I agree that the national interests of Russia and America do not clash, making our two countries natural allies. Only absurd policies such as Trotsky’s “Exporting Revolution” or Neo-Conservative “Exporting Democracy” could turn our countries against each other, to the detriment of the common people in both countries. (Irving Kristol, father of neo-conservatism, actually began his political career as a Trotsky-ite in 1930s New York!) Pat Buchanan is the one prominent American politician who clearly understands this.

    That is why I would like to see “Two Hundred Years Together” translated into English. It would expose the falsehood of the “Rampaging Cossack” stereotype, which Jewish Hollywood promotes via movies such as “Fiddler on the Roof” and “An American Tail”. Solzhenitsyn is well loved and widely read, especially among conservatives. “A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch” is a staple in high school summer reading lists. He would not be ignored, and the inevitable controversy would only draw more attention to the true facts.

15. I’m sure that ‘200 years’ will be available in English within the next few years. On the other hand, the absence of a translation kind of proves the point that America (Canada, Oz, UK…) is the Jews’ bitch.

    I guess somebody will have to translate it as a labour of love, since I’m sure it would end up passed around on blogs and torrent sites as a free PDF.

    If somebody made a rough translation, I’d be happy to try putting it in well English. (Just kidding! Good English, I know…) Otherwise, I have other things to take care of.

    + + +

    @ Wikitopia, in case you missed my response to your comment at my scribble-site.

    In case anybody else has no love life (today is St Valentine’s Day, after all), here is the back-and-forth:

    I wrote (with my new clarifications in square brackets):

    ~ Quote ~

    Occidental Dissent describes itself in the following terms:

    “We support the creation of a Jew-free, racially exclusive White ethnostate in North America.”

    [One of the contributers there commends the site in the following terms:]

    “OD is…a valuable intersection where respectability and radicalism collide in an open forum. Atheists, neo-pagans, Christian [sic] Identity adherents, Kinists, Mormons, and even Jews are included in the fray.”

    “Atheists, neo-pagans, Christian [sic] Identity adherents, Kinists, Mormons, and even Jews” in “a Jew-free, racially exclusive White ethnostate”? Just like their Nation of Islam and Black “Anglo-Saxon” Israelite co-religionists, they dream of an Anything But Christian “ethnostate” for a non-ethnos. Like their dumb Black colleagues, these dumb Whites throw words like “nation” and “ethnic” around with no sense of etymology.

    – Unquote ~

    [I hope no ‘Whites’ (or these hasbaras here) get all bent up about ‘dumb whites’. Think of it as a term of endearment…]

    Anyway, you [Wikitopian (a seemingly ignoble screen-name…)] wrote:

    “Regarding Occidental Dissent, you took two different statements by two different bloggers in two different contexts and blended them together as one. You spliced my comment onto the end of Hunter’s comment to imply that the site is somehow pro-Jewish. I am merely a contributor, without the power to dictate policy or even permission to moderate comments.”

    My response:

    ?????:

    I didn’t “splice…to imply”. I just didn’t separate the two quotes enough. Thanks for pointing that out. I did provide two separate links, but of course most people don’t read so carefully, so I can see how that would be misleading. It seems that your comment about OD should have been noted and checked by the editor there, since it seems to contradict the site’s own self-description. I hope my re-edit is more clear now.

    Anyway, the main point is that sites like yours (or the site you contribute to) make ‘race’ the main point of society, or life, or history, or whatever; and I think that’s not only a false way of looking at life, but reveals a poor understanding of history. I think this fuzziness about the meaning and significance of ‘race’, ‘ethnos’, ’state’, ‘nation’ etc just leads to all sorts of confusion, and plays ionto the goals of globalists and nation-wreckers.

    As for ‘Jews’, I’ve made it very clear that I believe Judaism is a very destructive and disturbing ideological cult. I don’t hate or even dislike Jews as individuals, or have anything against bagels (though klezmer is bloody annoying!). I’m also sick and tired of being bombarded with Judaic propaganda (esp. the Holohoax and the drive to get everybody to fight wars for their benefit, or what they believe is their benefit) and Jewish-dominated and influenced cultural products.

    A “white ethnostate” is just nonsense, fuzzy thinking, imprecise terminology, a non-starter, a sure way to destroy whatever cohesiveness there is or ever was in whatever you’ve confused with a ‘White Nation’. I don’t find talk of “a white ethnostae” any more offensive than the Nation of Islam’s mad schemes, or the Jewish State or Saudi Arabia, but that’s not saying much, since both places are terrible examples of nation-states.

    Whatever problem there is with Jews, stems from their guiding philosophies, which cause them to generally subvert societies, and make themselves disliked, unwanted, and then have persecution complexes.

    Over-emphasizing ‘race’ problems, and creating or exacerbating racial divisions, serves the purpose of the Masonic globalists and plays into Judaic/Zionist propaganda.

    + + +

    Happy St Valentines Day.

    I hope everyone who deserves it gets laid today, or finds true love, or both.

16. So now the Irish aren’t white either. lol. When all is said and done there’ll be about 4 people left in the white advocacy movement.

    This comment section is an example of why the WN movement sputters along, having trouble getting anywhere. This ethnic hair-splitting. The average mainstream white going about their daily business, the people the movement needs, doesn’t give a shit about the minutia people are arguing about here.

    For example, the people that hate the Tea Party movement couldn’t care less what type of white people are in that crowd, whether they’re Irish, Italian, Swedish, or of whatever mixture. No, they’re white. Their in a group. That’s enough for the haters to throw the word racism around to scare and scatter them. You don’t have to take a DNA test before you’re discriminated against in government hiring, university admission, corporate quotas, or to be portrayed like a moron in a television commercial. If you’re white enough, that’s good enough.

    If James Gandolfini, Dana Perino, and Conan O’Brien want to join the movement, welcome aboard.

17. Akira,

    I’ve had this nick for several years. I agree that it’s lame, but I don’t know if it would be appropriately described as “dishonorable”. Changing your nick can be distracting and arouse suspicions, so I haven’t changed it.

    Engaging with Jews in conversation on the Internet is not tantamount to compromising the mission. I stand behind that statement and I can’t count the number of times that I walked away from an argument with a Jew wiser than I walked into it. Sooner or later, our arguments are going to have to stand up to Jewish critique. The sooner the better, I say.

    It’s painfully ironic that Slav would attack White Americans for being under the thumb of global Jewry without a hint of sympathy, given that y’all suffered the same affliction up until very recently. You’re sewing dissension between the different nationalities, heritages, and religious beliefs with a zeal that Yosemite can only hope to imitate.

18. Swedish Fish,

    That “Irish aren’t white” comment was posted by a troll vainly attempting to turn white against white. The rest of us shouted him down.

19. So now the Irish aren’t white either. lol. When all is said and done there’ll be about 4 people left in the white advocacy movement. — swedish fish
    —

    Swede,

    Please, like I told the other commenters, don’t take ANYTHING that ‘yo-semite sam’ says by endlessly worrying what he bloviates upon.

    As I said before, his previous game was to call for violence against Jews; now he is arguing that they are just fine and dandy – sans their “liberalism” – and no worse (or, even better) than many other White ethnic groups.

    This was the same sorry ‘schtick’ that ‘Freddy ben Brownstein’ – aka ‘Friedrich Braun’ also employed after his ‘out-of-nowhere’ philo-semitic ‘epiphany’.

    Most importantly, he is in no way a ‘good-faith’ commenter and is PURPOSELY here to create dissension and animosity. We can have people here with different perspectives debating when they come here in good faith — like ‘Crypto-Aryan’ and ‘Iceman’ regularly do — since both are honest and sincere men that I both respect greatly.

    So, then, don’t about (or feed) the trolls.

20. You guys are confusing me. No, really, I have some relatives who are from Northern Ireland and a few have remained British Subjects (British by nationality, passports are British).

    Yes, you’re right, Great Britain does not include Northern Ireland. I should have said British Isles or United Kingdom. It is generally stated Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So, we have Great Britain, the British Isles, and the United Kingdom. It can get confusing if you don’t engage it for a while.

    The citizens of Northern Ireland ARE British Subjects. Just an FYI, the government of Ireland considers anyone born on the island of Ireland – north or south – Irish citizens. In fact, the Irish government considers the children of anyone born on the entire island – Irish citizens (although you must apply for a passport and prove parentage). Many European countries have similar laws. I wish one of my parents or grandparents were Swiss!

    I don’t cite the different ethnicities and their overall origin to separate but to distinguish.

    As for the American South being more Celtic than Ango-Saxon, actual census records indicate this.

    I didn’t know the Irish invaded Scotland.

    Why do we always say invaded?

21. And to clarify the Irish aren’t white, he really meant the “Smoked” Irish aren’t white.

    Irish = original inhabitants of Ireland (pure Caucasian)
    Black Irish = the Irish (above) whose physical traits are less fair than the general population of Ireland and some argue it’s the Spanish blood in them (dark brown hair (my understanding is that Caucasians never actually have black hair), brown eyes)
    Smoked Irish = Africans with Irish surnames, i.e., LaShonne O’Malley, Lakeisha McDonald (no real Irish blood)

22. Joanne,

    re “why do we always say invaded”?

    The Irish didn’t completely invade. Some monks set up on inhabited islands or barely inhabited parts of the mainland, and there’s no video ‘evidence’ of what happened … but to call it an invasion is probably a fair bet.

    Pre-470: Irish slave raids in Great Britain. [Later St] Patrick enslaved and brought to Ulster.

    c. 470: Fergus Mor Mac Eirc crosses from Ulster to Britain; forms kingdom of Dál Riata [Argyll], basis of Kingdom of Scotland [Alba in Irish].

    5-6th C: Irish language and culture [esp. Scoti] spread to SW Scotland on permanent basis. Scoti dominance leads to Latin name Scotia > Scotland. Celts took over [conquered? intermarried with? co-existed with? no-one really knows] the kingdom of the Picts in the NE, then other kingdoms in the south.

    563: Monastery of Iona founded by St Columcille of Derry.

    634: St Aidan from Iona establishes monastery at Lindisfarne.

    1013: Single Scottish kingdom within its present boundaries. i.e. the mostly Irish colony of Scotland is older than England, France, Spain, Germany, Italy.

    Scottish (Gaelic) is a dialect of Irish (Gaelige).

    + + +

    “Black Irish” etc. Gimme a break.

    + + +

    BTW, sorry but this is not true: “the government of Ireland considers anyone born on the island of Ireland – north or south – Irish citizens. In fact, the Irish government considers the children of anyone born on the entire island – Irish citizens.”

    1. The Oireachtas [Dáil Éireann, Seanad Éireann], Uachtarán na hÉireann, and Taoiseach, are NOT the Government of Ireland. Those jokers are in charge of the self-styled Poblacht na hÉireann. They have no authority in Northern Ireland.

    2. The Poblacht na hÉireann grants citizenship to anyone born in (or descended from anyone born in) the territory of the Irish province of the UK prior to 1922.12.06 and the establishment of King George V’s Dominion of Saorstát Éireann.

23. Addendum:

    The Oireachtas [Dáil Éireann, Seanad Éireann], Uachtarán na hÉireann, and Taoiseach of the self-styled Poblacht na hÉireann have no authority — and no longer claim any authority — in or over Northern Ireland.

24. I realized that guy is a troll, it just felt like his arguments were maybe getting too much detailed attention. You guys make great comments, don’t get the wrong idea.

    Some anti-whites enjoy trying to confuse the concept of what white is when they “fight” white activism to sow dissension. They suddenly know what white is, though, when they want to discriminate. It’s whatever they want it to be.

    That recent Vanity Fair cover with the “New Hollywood” that featured a bunch of good-looking white people caused some bitching. Too white! No diversity! This is anti-white racism plain as day, but the average person doesn’t even realize it because they’re so used to experiencing the only allowed racism: against whites. Nobody really cared what the ancestry was of those celebs.

    …I realize I didn’t saying anything Earth-shattering in this post.

25. “They were Evangelical Christians”

    No, they were Protestant, not “Evangelical Christians” in the modern sense.

26. I realized that guy is a troll, it just felt like his arguments were maybe getting too much detailed attention. You guys make great comments, don’t get the wrong idea. — swedish fish
    —

    Swede

    Excellent point that I was trying to say and warn against: that of not giving a troll or bad-faith commenter’s arguments too much of a detailed response or the attention that it does not deserve.

    …I realize I didn’t saying anything Earth-shattering in this post.

    Actually you kinda did 🙂

    Welcome aboard.

27. Akira,

    Black Irish is a term used amongst the Irish. Smoked Irish, obviously, is a humorous term applied to blacks.

    The citizenship statement is true. I know, because I’ve been through it. Your nearest Irish Consulate will back me up.

    BTW, are you guys – and gals – all history majors? (This is meant as a compliment.)

28. Who is now entitled to be considered as a citizen of Poblacht na hÉireann:

    Any child born in the territory of the United Kingdom’s province of Ireland prior to 1922.12.06, or adopted by a British subject or citizen or potential British subject or citizen within the territory of the United Kingdom’s province of Ireland prior to 1922.12.06, or adopted by a British subject or citizen or potential British subject or citizen who normally resided in or who was born in the territory of the United Kingdom’s province of Ireland prior to 1922.12.06, is automatically entitled to be considered as a citizen of Poblacht na hÉireann.

    Any child born in the territory of Northern Ireland between 1922.12.06 and 2004.12.31 is entitled to be considered as a citizen of Poblacht na hÉireann if either parent was or could have been a citizen of Saorstát Éireann [1922.12.06 – 1937.12.28] or of Éire [1937.12.29 – 1949.04.17] or of Poblacht na hÉireann [1949.04.18~] at the time of the child’s birth.

    Any child born in the territory or extraterritorial space of Saorstát Éireann or of Éire is automatically entitled to be considered as a citizen of Poblacht na hÉireann.

    Every citizen or potential citizen of Saorstát Éireann and/or of Éire is automatically entitled to be considered as a citizen of Poblacht na hÉireann.

    Any child born in the territory or extraterritorial space of Poblacht na hÉireann on or prior to 2004.12.31 is automatically entitled to be considered as a citizen of Poblacht na hÉireann.

    Any child born to or adopted by a citizen or potential citizen of Saorstát Éireann or Éire or of Poblacht na hÉireann anywhere in the universe at any time is automatically entitled to be considered as a citizen of Poblacht na hÉireann.

    Any child born in the territory or extraterritorial space of Poblacht na hÉireann on or after 2005.01.01 is entitled to be considered as a citizen of Poblacht na hÉireann if either parent was or could have been a citizen or subject of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland with unrestricted residency rights in Poblacht na hÉireann at the time of the child’s birth.

    Any child born in the territory or extraterritorial space of Poblacht na hÉireann to a non-citizen of either Poblacht na hÉireann or of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on or after 2005.01.01 is entitled to be considered as a citizen of Poblacht na hÉireann either parent can prove a genuine link to Ireland. This will be evidenced by being resident legally in the island of Ireland for at least 3 out of the previous 4 years immediately before the birth of the child.

29. Clearer detail:
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/moving-country/irish-citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent

30. Huh?
    http://brianakira.wordpress.com/

31. How on Earth is that “clearer”?

    What I wrote is as clear as a burst of sunlight reflecting off the loch on a fine Spring day.

    And, since I’m extremely petty, I’m sure you’ll concede that the following was incorrect, inaccurate, and false:

    “the government of Ireland considers anyone born on the island of Ireland – north or south – Irish citizens. In fact, the Irish government considers the children of anyone born on the entire island – Irish citizens.”

32. Wha?

33. ATBOTL,

    Why I used the term Evangelical:

    1. Self-designation – Evangelical was the term which Martin Luther prefered to use to describe himself and fellow sola scriptura Christians. Protestant was originally a term of disparagement invented by Catholics.

    2. Precision – Protestant, in our time, is a term which encompasses both Evangelical Christians who still believe in the principle of sola scriptura, and theological liberals such as the Unitarian/Universlists who reject the principle of sola scriptura.

34. Akira,

    If Evangelicals have a confused theology, then Paul, Peter, James, Jude, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John have confused theologies. Those are the only Theologians whose works we consider authoritative.

    As to Evangelical Christianity being inherantly destructive, consider how the English increased mightily in both numbers and per capita wealth, and overspread North America and Australia in the years 1559-1890. Why didn’t the “inherantly destructive” Evangelical Christianity adopted by Elizabeth prevent this? Only latter, when Evangelical Christianity was abandoned for theological liberalism and agnosticism, did the “sexual revolution” (abortion, pornography, feminism and the homosexual movement) take root. These things destroyed the birthrate, and left the Protestant countries you mentioned open to an influx of foreigners.

35. #182 It states it is plain English without the Gaelic names of the legal entities involved. I certainly understand it better. No, you’re not right. You appear to refer to older legal language. I’ve been through the process, so I know firsthand. I am an Irish citizen through my mother. I have dual citizenship. I dealt directly with the Irish Consulate in New York. The Irish government considers all Irish-born people Irish citizens and I mean Irish-born as in the entire island. So being under British rule does not exclude those in the North. Of course, they have to claim their passport to be recognized. It is the perfect viewpoint.

    #183 Are you Brian Akira?

36. And, the site is run by the Irish government. See table – I am C, child of A. Where did you get your information?

37. Joanne, you’re wrong, A Pakistani arriving in Northern Ireland last Tuesdasy and giving birth on Wednesday would not have an Irish child. For that matter, the child of an Italian who arrived in Northern Ireland on Dec 13, 1922 would also not automatically be a citizen of the Republic of Ireland.

    + + +

    WU:

    Re: “the English increased mightily in both numbers and per capita wealth”

    Big deal? Is that your Prosperity Gospel?

    “when Evangelical Christianity was abandoned for theological liberalism and agnosticism, did the “sexual revolution” (abortion, pornography, feminism and the homosexual movement) take root.”

    Wrong. there’s no such thing as Christianity outside of the Church, so post-schismatic Western Europe and England and Scotland and America never had any Christianity to abandon. The 1001 cults of the west naturally led to the rot you describe because they are heretical and unstable and contradictory and man-made and nonsensical.

    The West is rotten and without Christ will become ever more Judaic, Masonic and depraved. That’s your post-Christian West, which dates from 1054 at the latest.

38. Joanne,

    Irish Citizenship and Naturalization Act, 1956, 1986, 1994, 2001 and 2004:

    “6.—(1) Every person born in Ireland is an Irish citizen from birth.”
    …
    “7.—(1) Pending the re-integration of the national territory, subsection (1) of section 6 shall not apply to a person, not otherwise an Irish citizen, born in Northern Ireland on or after the 6th December, 1922”

39. Re: “the site is run by the Irish government”

    It also clearly states on the original form issued by An Roinn Gnóthaí Eachtracha that it should not be taken as legal advice. And it was written by a legal illiterate since the statement, “Every person born on the island of Ireland before 1 January, 2005 is entitled to be an Irish citizen. “is clearly contradicted by the act itself: “subsection (1) of section 6 shall not apply to a person, not otherwise an Irish citizen, born in Northern Ireland on or after the 6th December, 1922?

40. I doubt anyone really cares about his intensely arcane debate, but further negating the blithe assertion that anyone born in Ireland is Irish:

    “A person born in the island of Ireland shall not be entitled to be an Irish citizen unless a parent of that person has, during the period of 4 years immediately preceding the person’s birth, been resident in the island of Ireland for a period of not less than 3 years or periods the aggregate of which is not less than 3 years.”

    …
    “A period of residence in the State shall not be reckonable for the purposes of calculating a period of residence under section 6A if— (a) it is in contravention of section 5(1) of the Act of 2004, (b) it is in accordance with a permission given to a person under section 4 of the Act of 2004 for the purpose of enabling him or her to engage in a course of education or study in the State, or (c) it consists of a period during which a person (other than a person who was, during that period, a national of a Member State, an EEA state or the Swiss Confederation) referred to in subsection (2) of section 9 (amended by section 7(c)(i) of the Act of 2003) of the Act of 1996 is entitled to remain in the State in accordance only with the said subsection.

    “(5) A period of residence in Northern Ireland shall not be reckonable for the purposes of calculating a period of residence under section 6A— (a) if— (i) the person concerned is not during the entire of that period a national of a Member State, an EEA state or the Swiss Confederation, and (ii) the residence of the person concerned in Northern Ireland during that period is not lawful under the law of Northern Ireland, or (b) if the entitlement of the person concerned to reside in Northern Ireland during that period is subject to a condition that is the same as or similar to a condition which, if applicable in respect of an entitlement to reside in the State, would, by virtue of subsection (4), render a period of residence in the State pursuant to such an entitlement not reckonable for the purposes of calculating a period of residence under the said section 6A.”

41. Who is this “Akira”? Akira is anti-English, anti-American, and anti-Protestant, and he thinks race is unimportant and the Irish founded America.

    Akira attacks this site in comment 166 and says race is unimportant:

    Anyway, the main point is that sites like yours (or the site you contribute to) make ‘race’ the main point of society, or life, or history, or whatever; and I think that’s not only a false way of looking at life, but reveals a poor understanding of history. I think this fuzziness about the meaning and significance of ‘race’, ‘ethnos’, ’state’, ‘nation’ etc just leads to all sorts of confusion, and plays ionto the goals of globalists and nation-wreckers.

    Akira also attacks “Britain, Canada, white South Africa, the US, Holland, Sweden” and Protestants in comment 159.

    In comment 140, Akira says, “The majority of the [Founding Fathers of the United States] were also fully or partly Irish.”

42. http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/haiti-child-abduction-the-jewish-connection/
    Warning if you click on this link to the site of the degenerate Akira: The quoted paragraph is under a picture of a half-naked Dominican woman and above a picture of a half-naked Dominican man.

    Akira says whites are flocking to the Dominican Republic for sex tourism.

    The Dominican Republic is now popular as a tourist destination, where many White men go to escape from their nagging, miserable, harpy wives and cavort with (preferably) young whores and sex-slaves; and bored White wives and queer White men go to hire black men for sex (the women, however, want the Black men to pretend there’s some sort of romance involved, in order to protect their fragile egos).

43. http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2008/02/17/major-mccain-critics-anti-catholic-racists-who-favour-sterilization-abortion-zero-population-growth/

    Akira attacks immigration restrictionist critics of John McCain as “anti-Catholic racists.”

44. Akira in comment 159:

    I agree with just about everything you just wrote. I think you under-estimate the historic Roman Catholic role (perhaps E. Michael Jones would be the best recent writer to go to to find out about the interaction of Roman Catholics, Catholic communities, the Church, and Americanism, White society, American culture…)

    No.

    E. Michael Jones is a Papist who attacks “judeo-saxon pig lords of America” and looks forward to building a new Catholic nation with Mexicans after the evil WASP America is destroyed.

45. During the 1800’s and 1900’s, the American South had a greater population of Celts than Anglo-Saxons.

    No.
    http://racehist.blogspot.com/2008/04/celtic-southern-myth.html

46. Regarding Akira’s false claims about the white population in Australia being mostly Irish:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Australia#Ancestry_of_Australian_population
    Ancestry of Australian population, 2006 Census

    Australian 37.13%
    English 31.65%
    Irish 9.08%
    Scottish 7.56%

47. MGLS seems to have an obsession with me. I hope you satisfied your obsession by reading through my scribbling.

    Re: “Who is this “Akira”?”

    A: I am Akira.

    Re: “Akira is anti-English, anti-American, and anti-Protestant, and he thinks race is unimportant and the Irish founded America.”

    All exagerations. I’m not anti-English. England, esp. the City of London, is the source of much of the world’s evil, having spread the Judeo-Masonic Empire across the globe, exploiting, slaving, moving dope, pimping, etc. America has largely taken over this role. Protestants are ultimately serving Anti-Christ. I never said “race is unimportant”. You even quote my view of race: “mak’ing] ‘race’ the main point of society, or life, or history, or whatever … I think that’s not only a false way of looking at life, but reveals a poor understanding of history. I think this fuzziness about the meaning and significance of ‘race’, ‘ethnos’, ’state’, ‘nation’ etc just leads to all sorts of confusion, and plays into the goals of globalists and nation-wreckers.”

    R: “Akira also attacks Britain, Canada, white South Africa, the US, Holland, Sweden and Protestants.”

    Attacks? No, I pointed out that these protestant (crypto-Jew, Masonic) nations have and are continually being wrecked by every modern plague. One leads to the other, because “protestantism” serves Anti-Christ.

    Re: “In comment 140, Akira says, “The majority of the [Founding Fathers of the United States] were also fully or partly Irish.””

    So?

    Re: http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/haiti-child-abduction-the-jewish-connection/ Warning if you click on this link to the site of the degenerate Akira: The quoted paragraph is under a picture of a half-naked Dominican woman and above a picture of a half-naked Dominican man.: Akira says whites are flocking to the Dominican Republic for sex tourism.: “The Dominican Republic is now popular as a tourist destination, where many White men go to escape from their nagging, miserable, harpy wives and cavort with (preferably) young whores and sex-slaves; and bored White wives and queer White men go to hire black men for sex (the women, however, want the Black men to pretend there’s some sort of romance involved, in order to protect their fragile egos).”

    Yeah. So what? What’s your point. You don’t like facts? That’s one of the main industries or perhaps the main industry of the Dom. Rep. Fat ugly old white women, married and bitterly divorced, European and American crowd the cafes and bars and hotels and beaches with poor 18 year old black studs, pretending there’s some romance, both knowing the old cows just want to get fucked by the black men.

    And the clubs and back streets and bars are filled with “dirty old men” looking for young dark meat.

    You have a problem with facts?

    The article was about sex-slavery and child abductions.

    Re: “Akira attacks immigration restrictionist critics of John McCain as “anti-Catholic racists.”

    That wasn’t the criticism of all McCain critics. If you read it, you’d see that it’s documented that many of the most organized anti-immigrant campaigners are intensely anti-Catholic, and, more importantly, they at the same time are anti-natalist in the US. I don’t have time to re-check what’s in that post, but as far as I remember, I was arguing that the anti-natalists are actually responsible for the Catholic immigration they object to. They create a US where whites don’t breed. Then millions of high-fertility Mexicans, Arabs, etc replace them. [Also confirming my earlier statement that Protestantism is self-destructive, and Jews destroy nations.] The real problems with immigration, esp. illegal, are the corruption allowing it, and the social destruction that welcomes it, and the usurious economic system that encourages it. About that sack of shit McCain. At that time I was a more mainstream conservative, and couldn’t figure out why the GOP boosters, and Neo-Con types like Steyn and Hot Air hated McCain so much, since their “champions” — Giuliani, Romney, etc — are the same or worse! All the main GOP leaders support amnesty and so on. I couldn’t figure out exactly what their problem with McCain was, since as far as I was aware he was basically arguing that the present status is anarchic, and needs to be regularized with work visas etc, and amnesty for those who are clearly never going to be deported. Since then of course I’ve realized more and more that all Dem-Rep leaders are filth, All of them. Each and every one. All of them corrupt and enslaved to their Jew masters and the lodges. All dedicated to destroying nations and creating a world-state. And a main problem is the Jew-Stream Press, the Jew-run liberal press and the Jew-run conservative press.

    Also, at that time, I wasn’t aware of McCain’s Jewish mob ties, because the Jew media never mentions it; nor did his Dem and Rep opponents who are Jews’ slaves.

    Re: “Akira wrote: “I think you under-estimate the historic Roman Catholic role (perhaps E. Michael Jones would be the best recent writer to go to to find out about the interaction of Roman Catholics, Catholic communities, the Church, and Americanism, White society, American culture…)” No. E. Michael Jones is a Papist who attacks “judeo-saxon pig lords of America” and looks forward to building a new Catholic nation with Mexicans after the evil WASP America is destroyed.”

    Interesting. I must have missed those arguments in his calm, balanced, academic books. Was he drinking with Mel Gibson when he ranted these things?

    Re: “Regarding Akira’s false claims about the white population in Australia being mostly Irish: 2006 Census: Australian 37.13%: English 31.65%: Irish 9.08%: Scottish 7.56%”

    I try my best to be nice, calm, peaceful. But you’re a complete idiot.

    First of all, many or most of those 37.13% “Australians” are also either Irish or part Irish, as are many or most of the 31.65% “English” and the 7.56% “Scottish”.

    Secondly you cite a 2006 census, which is a generation after immigration was made non-racial, and 57 years after Rep of Ireland citizens were denied automatic right of entry to Australia. Most immigrants over the past century have been Greeks, Italians, Slavs, Arabs, Chinese etc.

    I was responding to the fiction that Australia was foinded and settled by “Anglo-Saxons”

    That’s why I wrote:

    “British and colonial populations are so inter-mixed that it’s actually impossible to quantify just how Irish any population is. However, to get an approximation of the Irish identity of Australia, in 1891, 7.2% of the population was born in Ireland. Add that to the masses of Australian-born Irish, those with, say, at least one Irish grandparent, and the obvious large numbers of England- and Scotland-born immigrants who were from Irish families, I’d guess that 75% of Australians in the era of settlement and state-formation. [The Commonwealth of Australia and the Federal Constitution were proclaimed on 1901.01.01.]”

    Get it? 1891 census! Still the era of settlement. Around the time of federation. 7.2% BORN in Ireland. Plus other British settlers who were bound to include Irish or part-Irish. Plus Australian-born Irish. All together, the majority were more or less Irish, and probably a greater proportion than the Englishness of Australians back then, esp. considering that Scots are Irish cousins. So why on Earth are you talking about 2006? Was Australia founded and settled in 2006? Anyway, the fact that even in 2006, 9.08% of Australians identify themselves primarily as “Irish” (and their Scottish cousins at 7.56%), proves the overwhelming Celtic heritage in Australia even today after a century of increasingly multi-kulti immigration.

    Try to make more sense next time. Or just try to make any sense…

48. Another strange thing. Why do people make notes like “Akira is Anti-Protestant!” as if they’ve just discovered some dark, hidden secret?

    What’s your point? Do you think people are illiterate? Any literate person can see for themselves that I believe that Protestantism serves Anti-Christ. Didn’t I say so myself?

49. Excellent refutations of Akira, MGLS. There is hardly anything I need to add.

50. I wasn’t going to bother with him, but after having torn you to pieces, I figured it would be unfair to let him go unscathed.