Guy White recently coined the term “Hitler-admirers” to describe White Nationalists who aren’t Neo-Nazis, but who don’t agree with the total demonization of Nazi Germany. I’ve been included in this unusual category. He posted about this the day I moved from Alabama to Virginia. An epic snowstorm buried Virginia around that time and I never got around to responding.
I don’t like the term. It is not descriptive of my views. Unlike most White Nationalists, I am genuinely not interested in the Third Reich or European nationalist movements. I rarely write about European issues on Occidental Dissent. This blog has always been focused on the United States. In fact, the original subtitle was “Racial and Cultural Preservation in North America.”
My favorite racial regime of the twentieth century is the Jim Crow South. I have over a hundred books about the subject on my bookshelf and all sorts of Jim Crow memorabilia. My second and third choices would be the Belgian Congo and Apartheid South Africa which I have written about in the past. If I was forced to pick my “favorite racial regime of all time,” I would easily choose the Confederacy, which was based on the “cornerstone” of racial inequality, or the White Republic which lasted from 1789 to 1865. In January and February, I wrote several book reviews about the subject.
I admire Adolf Hitler in the sense that I acknowledge he had a few good points. He was a talented and charismatic public speaker. Hitler was a conservationist. He was an artist, a supporter of eugenics, a German patriot, put Germans back to work, proscribed degenerate art, and funded cancer research. Nazi Germany was renowned for its technological marvels like the V2 rocket program. Hitler annexed German minorities in neighboring countries to the Fatherland and removed Jews from all positions of influence and power. He withdrew from the League of Nations, repudiated Versailles, and restored German national confidence.
I can also say positive things about Abraham Lincoln, FDR, and Winston Churchill. Lincoln spent hundreds of thousands of dollars trying to deport blacks from the United States. In his famous debate with Stephen Douglas, he repudiated social equality. Lincoln signed the Homestead Act. The Morrill Land Grant Colleges Act led to the foundation of my alma mater. Lincoln’s ideas about industrial development were more progressive than those of his Southern counterparts.
FDR was a gifted politician. He can be credited for the TVA, SEC, FDIC, Social Security, and Glass-Steagall. His “Good Neighbor Policy” was a vast improvement in American foreign relations with Latin America. Like Hitler, Churchill was a talented writer, artist, and public speaker. He opposed non-White immigration to Britain. Churchill was a diehard imperialist who opposed the independence of India. I enjoyed his History of the English Speaking Peoples which I have in my library.
Does this make me a Lincoln-admirer, FDR-admirer, or Churchill-admirer? Perhaps. I don’t consider any of these terms useful or valid categories though. I have profound differences with Hitler, Lincoln, FDR, and Churchill on foreign policy. Few historical figures are entirely good or bad. I don’t have much respect for people who think in this binary way.
Most of them are idiots.
Update: The discussion continues on Guy White’s blog.
HW, you sound like a die-hard multiculturalist, no problem with mixed-race societies as long as you get to be on top. You are like NeoNietzsche, enjoying your position as the Dominant with the Negroes as your Submissives. All the societies you listed were multi-cultural.
Depends on who you define as “White Nationalists” I guess. Jim Crow South, Belgian Congo, apartheid South Africa – these were all multi-cultural regimes, not White Nationalism. The Abolitionists were the opposite, they supported sending blacks back to their homeland, unlike Jim Crow Dixie.
The Southern Plantation Owners created the multi-cultural society in America, in cooperation with the International Jewish Slave Trade, because they didn’t want to pay the white indentured servants a decent wage, and couldn’t compete with them after their contracts expired and they went independent.
1.) I’m a White Nationalist.
2.) The White Republic, Confederacy, and Jim Crow South were not perfect, but they were a vast improvement over the regime that exists today.
3.) The abolitionists opposed Lincoln’s plan to deport blacks to Africa.
4.) Jews were mostly involved with the Spanish and Portuguese transatlantic slave trade to Latin America.
5.) You are confusing multiracialism with multiculturalism. They are not the same thing.
6.) I lost interest in Nietzsche years ago.
7.) Blacks were imported to the Southern colonies under British rule. The slave trade was abolished in all the states during and after the American Revolution.
8.) You obviously know little about the history of slavery and colonialism. Virtually all New World colonies practiced slavery in some form or another. Most historians agree that it was an economic necessity.
“Most historians agree that it was an economic necessity.”
Most economists agree immigration is vital for our economy.
Racial differences in intelligence and social delinquency are what are important to the “race realists” like Guy White and Steve Sailer. The policies they advocate are ending affirmative action, making English the official language, reducing immigration, making sure immigrants “assimilate,” and promoting Eurocentric culture and values. These are peripheral in comparison to the racial issues that really matter.
What really matters is racial preservation. As Richard McCulloch says, separation is the preservationist imperative. It is essential for racial survival. What the “race realists” discuss and advocate is inconsequential compared to the ultimate issue, that of racial preservation.
I quote from Richard McCulloch’s negative review of the 1996 American Renaissance conference (in the August 1996 issue of Instauration):
Guy White is unsurprisingly a big fan of Geert Wilders. Geert Wilders is essentially an anti-Islam neoconservative. He is not an ethnonationalist, and he would have no problem with the immigration of millions of Bantus into the Netherlands so long as they are not Muslim and “assimilate.”
Wilders has indicated that in principle he has no problem with the racial transformation of the Netherlands and Europe. His concern is defending “Western values.” He also calls for the destruction of the Dutch people through “assimilation” with immigrants.
Quoting from a speech in which Wilders said mass immigration would be no problem if the immigrants would “assimilate”:
In the same speech Wilders also said:
The demographic transition in the United States is much further along than in any European country, and if things continue as they are the United States will not be “the last man standing” and the “last bastion” of European civilization. However, Wilders does not recognize this because the immigrants to the United States are mostly Hispanics rather than Muslims.
It’s no secret that Lawrence Auster’s favorite politician in Europe (or maybe even the entire world) is Geert Wilders. As mentioned above, Wilders cares almost exclusively about Islam, and he is not an ethnonationalist. Since protecting Jewish interests and opposing Islam are of infinitely more importance to Auster than European racial preservation, it is no surprise he is head over heels in love with Wilders. So enamored of Wilders is Auster that today he resorted to outright mendacity in trying to defend Wilders.
Auster said the following today:
Quoting from a Telegraph article:
Quoting from a Times Online article:
So Auster thinks calling the BNP “disgusting” is “very mild” criticism? And Auster thinks saying “My allies are not Le Pen and Haider. I’m very afraid of being linked with the wrong rightist fascist groups.” is not “[playing] one of those games of, ‘that guy over there is a racist, but I’m not a racist'”?
Auster must believe his sycophants are unaware of Wilders’s attacks on European nationalists.
Here is a link to the Telegraph article
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/5523238/Dutch-divided-over-Geert-Wilders-as-radical-MP-eyes-premiership.html
Here is a link to the Times Online article
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7047443.ece
Regarding the first exchange between HW and SSSS: I have always been against slavery and subduing other races within your own territory. Not because I care about them or cherish them. I don’t. I find all “Sun Peoples” primitive and irritating at best, barbarians at worst.
However, slavery or “mastery” means that you always have to watch your back and it usually means that your outbred. It also weakens the Master Race and turns them into soft, “cultured” wimps.
The root cause of our race problem has always been economic. The thing I admire most about Hitler and the National Socialists were their economic policies. Compare self sufficient NS economic policy with that shitty little litterbox in the Middle East that survives by sucking the blood of the West, Or where jewish economics has taken this country down the road to.
I especially would like to see the NS version of a National Labor Service implemented where young people, regardless of their station in life, serve a 2 year stint doing the dirty, back-breaking jobs that nobody else would want, like picking lettuce or cleaning latrines. This would promote discipline, diminish class friction and free us from having to depend on cheap non-white labor to get the dirty jobs done. Dr. Pierce spoke of this in one of his broadcasts, and there is plenty of material concerning it.
There are a lot of great ideas from that time period that White Nationalists should incorporate into any party platform.
For whatever reason Guy White blocked this perfectly rational comment from his blog.
Perhaps someone can go over there and set him straight that all the powerful Jews were not killed or demoted by Stalin, even if there was a shift in power away from where it was when Jews were essentially running the whole show.
I was going to provide references, but he blocked me before I got around to digging up the books it would’ve taked to refute him.
Guy White said:
“And then Putin destroyed them all. Also, there were no Oligarchs under Gorbachev when he opened the archives. And why would the Oligarchs want to hide the number of Jews in the country? Would not having some demographics behind them be helpful?”
I said:
It wouldn’t be helpful from the standpoint of keeping Russian Anti-Semitism in check.
Guy White said:
“Why in the world would Russia want to hide the fact that it saved millions of people? Wouldn’t Russia take credit for it? Who saves people and then lies about it?”
I said:
The elements I’m referring to are people who want to preserve the conventional Holocaust narrative.
Perhaps you are right, and the Russians who’d want to make Russia look good would have overpowered people invested in the conventional Holocaust narrative, and would have made evidence that large numbers of Jews got refuge in the Soviet Union widely known, if it had actually happened and records remained as late as the 1990’s.
One issue though is that we don’t know how many Jews got refuge in the Soviet Union, except that it was more than zero of them.
So all statements about how many got refuge are inherently speculative, though perhaps some constitute more plausible speculation than others.
Oops…
” After visiting these places, you can easily understand how that within a few years Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived.
He had boundless ambition for his country which rendered him a menace to the peace of the world, but he had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him. He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.” — John F. Kennedy, August 1, 1945
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v18/v18n3p30_Kennedy.html
” I especially would like to see the NS version of a National Labor Service implemented where young people, regardless of their station in life, serve a 2 year stint doing the dirty, back-breaking jobs that nobody else would want, like picking lettuce or cleaning latrines. This would promote discipline, diminish class friction and free us from having to depend on cheap non-white labor to get the dirty jobs done. Dr. Pierce spoke of this in one of his broadcasts, and there is plenty of material concerning it. ”
Yes, one of the first things that cemented my belief in Right-wing White Nationalism was the fact that class differences are easier to ameliorate then Racial differences! Marxists are wrong! Indeed as you have noted this has even been tried in the real world and worked!
The weird thing is that Guy White provided no evidence whatsoever for his assertion that Stalin purged all the powerful Jews, no evidence whatsoever for his claim that there were no Jews in the Cheka by the 40’s, and yet he banned me from his site because I dared to make claims without immediately providing links to documentation!
Anyway, the amusing thing about people like Guy White is that you really have to ask the question:
Even if the Holocaust happened, why do Non-Jews care so much about it that they’ll devote their lives to attacking anyone who even comes within a hundred paces denying it?
Do Non-Armenians devote their lives to attacking anyone who dares to deny the Armenian Genocide?
It clear where the power in this World lies, and who the whores to the powerful are.
Funny that, according to Guy, Geert Wilders has done well because he’s a big softie when it comes to the Jews and Israel.
It couldn’t possibly be because he’s a highly skilled politician who was helped by the Dutch Government’s persecution of him garnering sympathy from the voters, now could it?
The most important thing is to be nice to the Jews, even though the Jews have never done anything to be nice to us.
The regime I most admire is the one that we’ll make in the future, the White nation within a (crumbling) nation-state.
It will be a home-schooling, market dominant minority nation that energetically buys up towns and takes them over, one at a time, like Mormons, without much media coverage negative or positive, because the mass media is going out of business anyway.
MGLS,
Challenging (domestic) Islam is important. Few things better demonstrate the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of modern liberalism/leftism than its craven acquiescence to an Islamic primitiveness that brazenly flaunts liberals’ own cherished ideals. I’d love to see these contemptible cunts (the loony liberals) rounded up and paraded down the street for the people to beat them with sticks and publicly urinate on them, so wretched are they.
I agree about South Africa, but Belgian Congo! That was a horrible, genocidal regime (no, I don’t think thats propaganda). How can you be serious about that?
I don’t think WN should be about the subjugation of other races.
Also, I don’t get the Jim Crow thing. I always see the backrows of the busses and it doesn’t make any sense to me.
I absolutely admire Hitler. Those other leaders were bumbling idiots with fatal character flaws which contributed to the destruction of the future of us all. Most of the good things you list were things other leaders in their places would have done because of political winds or that they were easy positions at the time. Throw’em a bone stuff.. Hitler was not perfect, but he was definitely 100% of the time doing amazing things for the people’s best interests.
I have said before that no leader can be legitimate without embracing eugenics. It should be the #1 concern of true leaders, because so much depends on that. The future depends on it. All else follows from that.
What’s happening here is that there’s an emergent attempt to arrive at a racial nationalism which is fully philo-Semitic and eager to use the nearest available prop (us) to distinguish themselves from Nazis. Going after the anti-Semites is central to their plan for two reasons: it creates a safe environment for Jews to collaborate with them and it reinforces the perception among observers that they’re not villains.
On the surface, it appears to be a pretty sensible strategy. At this late hour in the game, why not try to strike some kind of bargain with our overlords in exchange for an ability to continue existing? I don’t get upset by their attempts to attack us, because I believe they genuinely think they’re doing what needs to be done to preserve the race. I believe FB is sincere if not necessarily honest and I make a point to avoid engaging those types whenever possible.
The first problem with the strategy is that it’s too obviously a strategy. I don’t care how much FB protests that he’s a changed man; If I were a Jew, I wouldn’t trust his philo-Semitic avatar. Likewise, a gentile can’t help but recognize that he’s ending up in an organization led by Jews which will ultimately pursue what’s good for the Jews – wherever that leads.
The second problem is that the needle’s too fine to thread. The White American identity will emerge in tribal and ethnonational terms, not in the sort of broadly racial terms which would encompass Jews. Once we identify as an “us”, there’s no natural way to include global Jewry in that “us”. These things aren’t subject to delicate engineering. They’re instinctive impulses.
On the same token, only an idiosyncratic subset of Jews will ever truly identify as White. There’s just too much inculcation, too much religious and secular mythology framing them as the beleaguered outsiders amidst dangerous Westerners. In theory, a temporary alliance could be afforded if Muslims posed a genuine organized threat. But that seems unlikely for a long while and they could just as easily integrate back into the Islamic world as fight it.
What I do believe is possible is for our elites to work out some sort of mutually tolerable compromise after we’ve regained our sovereignty. We share a common goal with Orthodox Jews of disempowering the secular mercantile Zionists. I would be favorable toward some sort of arm’s-length alliance which would put secular Jewry back at the mercy of their rightful tribal elders.
But all of this is falconry and strategery unless we can raise up or rehabilitate an indigenous elite with a political machine capable of manifesting our will.
Most economists have ben saying that outsourcing US manufacturing, industry, and jobs is “good for America” (Jewish parasites).
I am a Christian – but I am also moving towards “Esoteric Hitlerism”. The more I learn about Hitler, the more I admire Hitler. Everything Americans have been told are vile Talmudic lies. (Quel Suprise!) I feel Hitler was a tragic hero – and he will be vindicated. Sooner than any of us can imagine.
Guy Pretending To Be White – Adolf Hitler was the good guy!
Hitler was the good guy. I say that all the time, to all sorts of people. in 3D world. I’ve been saying this for awhile, now. I get a lot of shocked reactions, and I’ve gotten a lot of pushback. But the Fed, and Bernie Madoff, etc, are doing a lot of my work for me. I cite a few interesting facts, draw a few interesting parallels – and stand by my simple true statement. “Hitler was the good guy”.
I may also add, “He made mistakes. He was no general. But he tried to fight against what is happening now.”.
I’m getting less pushback, as the financial crisis deepens, all the time.
MLGS – Post #5 – Well done! Bravo!
You’ve said it all.
Goy Blight is a total prat. And this is the nicest thing I can think, to write, of him/it.
Silver – Post 15.
I’ve read your post on the Border Collie thread. I was reading through your blog, last night.
I worship you.
I am your worshipful admirer.
Your slavish devotee.
Please devote yourself to aquiring power. I will do anything I can do, to help you attain mastery of the global population.
I have not fully loosed my full imagination, on this respectable, intelligent, thoughtful, exquisite blog, as I dont want to “spook the horses” – but I think I could offer some interesting ideas, regarding social policies. And appropriate punishments, for the Enemies of our Race.
All I want, in return for my devoted service, is to be appointed one of the Lord (Lady) High Judges, at the Trials.
I call dibs on Cass Sunstien, and Sarah Silverkike.
Thank you for your consideration.
Heinous Henry,
JFK was his father’s son, and is in my mind with little doubt the reason he was removed from power.
Perhaps “Hitler-sympathizer” would be a more accurate termination. I will admit that I have never been able to fully understand National Socialism; there are so many viewpoints on the subject that it is hard to discern against the validity and the invalidity. Either way, it has always seemed to me to be an Economic driven government, which I consider inaccessible for stability, much in the same way I consider Marxism such a farce. However, those who have spoken before me on the great things of Hitler’s character (and faults) I have to concur with. When confusion arises over accusations of being a “Nazi” (what a silly demonology!) I generally state that I am a “Nazi-sympathizer”.
I haven’t had a lot of time to explore this site; however, what I have read is very intriguing:
http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/index.php
Krista – Hitler’s ideas were far more comprehensive, and visionary, for his Volk, than mere economic policies.
This is in honor of the good name of Germany and Dem Deutschen Volke – the German People:
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Das Lied der Deutschen ~ Deutschlandlied
Here is the historical background to the song Deutschlandlied, along with an English translation of the words from German.
(BTW, I didn’t mean to put those faces in the song that I posted above – HTML must have read them mistakingly as such.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied
The root of our problem is not economic but our failure to put race ABOVE ALL ELSE!
Denise,
I think you are going to really enjoy this site –
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Nazi Movies: A Window into the Third Reich
http://www.geniebusters.org/915/35_ministry.htm
The author of that geniebusters site also has a great article about why he is not a nazi. Most of it is that they didn’t do what they set out to do, revitalize the german culture. I wish he would write more, but hasn’t written much since he revealed he knew gwb in elementary school.
Hitler is interesting and enigmatic, lots of things to admire, but also quite a few things to avoid. I think everyone should read certain parts of Mein Kampf where Hitler has some brilliant things to say about Jews and Bolsheviks, things that still apply today. Some of Hitler’s achievements and ideas are timeless, but the man was far from perfect, and much of his ideology is worthy of the rubbish bin.
I think it’s best generally to avoid Hitler worship mainly because Hitler was a German nationalist in the 1930’s-40’s and we are American White Nationalists in 2010, thus Nazism doesn’t translate well into our situation (heck, it doesn’t translate for present day Germany, and in many ways didn’t for 1940’s Germany).
I’m a much bigger fan of George Lincoln Rockwell than of Hitler, and wish GLR had been able to first off not be assassinated, but second off, ditch the Nazi worship (GLR literally set up a shrine to Hitler in his home, so “Nazi worship” is accurate) and become a non-Nazi White racialist-populist.
GLR did seem to eventually realize that though there are timeless elements in Nazi ideology, there were also flaws and to improve upon. He succeeded in Americanizing NS to some extent and to this day most American Neo-Nazis have taken up GLR’s changes to NS ideology without realizing that they were never part of Hitler’s original NS philosophy.
All in all, I say we need to drop the NS language, iconography, etc. completely. It’s holding us back because it’s not American and not true to us. Go ahead and be inspired by “Triumph of the Will,” and take note of the important parts of “Mein Kampf,” but don’t be a Nazi.
Ski – Hitelr said, “National Socialism is not for export”.
We know that conditions here, in the USA, are very different.
I am not going to deny his achievements, and vision, however, simply cause the truth about Hitler, and the Reich, are skeery to the White Rubes.
If Rockwell set up a shrine to Hitler – what you problem with it? Yes. It is a bloody disaster he got whacked. Shame Nazi Germany got whacked, too.
Kulaks! Thanks!
I don’t know why you waste so much time on Guy Jew. All you are doing is giving his Jewish supremacist blog free advertising.
Here are some other possible motives and reasons why the Establishment and their Marxist-Liberal ‘priest-class’ enforcers never discuss the whole story and saga of what happened to Germany during and after the Second War of White Genocide, er, “WW2” –
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The Beauty and the Beast: Race and Racism in Europe, Part IV
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Sunic-RaceIV.html
Hunter,
I enjoyed the book reviews you wrote. Please write some more when you get the chance. Also, the Cornerstone Speech is one of the great moments of the Confederacy.
“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.” -Alexander H. Stephens, 1861
I’m a much bigger fan of George Lincoln Rockwell than of Hitler, and wish GLR had been able to first off not be assassinated, but second off, ditch the Nazi worship…
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I agree with Denise’s characterization regarding accepting the truth and the facts about National-Socialist Germany (not “Nazi” – a term of derision coined by anti-German bigots), and for this matter we should not ‘…deny his achievements, and vision, however, simply cause the truth about Hitler, and the Reich, are skeery to the White Rubes’.
I also couldn’t agree more that most American “Neo-Nazi’s” are deluded proles and certainly should ditch the *Kosher-certified* ‘Hollywood Nazi’ image and the lying, libelous slandering misrepresentation of Germany and the German People that is regularly, and incessantly shown on ‘Talmudvision’. They don’t need to embarass themselves (and the ‘Right-wing’ in general) any further than they already do.
“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.” -Alexander H. Stephens, 1861
I hope no one actually believes having millions of black slaves is anything but a mistake of catastrophic proportions for a White republic of any sort. If the Amish can farm their little 60 acre plots with draft animals, Whites can manage their farms with modern technique without living cheek by jowl with Blacks.
Randy, I agree with you. Stephens is simply saying that the natural order of things is for our race to subordinate the lesser ones. It doesn’t necessarily follow that we have to live with them.
Kulaks – exactly. I think a lot of the Neo-Nazis are simply confused would-be Theater Majors, and just want to “put on a show, kids!” – in a way that frightens the adults.
I’m fascinated by the things I’m discovering. The Reich, and Dear Old Herr H. are almost the polar opposite the Kosher smelt. The trajectory of the 20th Century now makes sense.
A lot of the Kosher Kartoon Nazi devotees would not have fared well, had they actually been able to live in Germany, under Hitler. The Reich was about elevating the Volk – not sick fanatasies, fermented in the brothels of Tel Aviv.
A “Hitler admirer” is anybody a jew admirer doesn’t like.
I admire Hitler, but everybody probably already guessed that. If you’re going to get the grief, why not get the gravy too?
Maybe ‘Goy Blight’ (LOL) and ethnocentric maniac ‘Larry the Liar’ Auster, who always demonize Germans for “THE Holocaust” can ponder these FACTS before they go on their usual shame-and-blame-game against any ‘gentile’ who merely wishes to acknowledge the realities of Soviet mass-murder and genocide — and who largely was responsible for it.
http://statsaholic.blogspot.com/search/label/Jewish%20Power
*Good stuff, Reginald.
Admiring Hitler. God have mercy, has it come to this?
As a white American who has “woken up” racially, within the past 5 months, one of the biggest obstacles for me has been this admiration among whites of Hitler and his Socialist creature.
If Hitler was such a champion for whites, why was his first act of war to invade and crush white Poland and Czechoslovakia? Why destroy white France and England? WW2, which was an act of Socialist agression, was a fratricidal war… among WHITES. Even ignoring any other reason, Hitler deserves eternal derision for this.
Are whites looking up to this filth because it’s counterculture? Because “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”? i.e. Jews hate Hitler, therefore Hitler is good and must be justified. Is that it?
There are racially-aware whites who had a harsh opinion of the Nazis and Hitler (like Patton). Why not look up to them, instead?
It’s like our race is cursed with confusion. The majority of us are either asleep or race-traitors, the rest are fractured and a sizable number of them are Nazi-lovers.
It would have been a better world without Hitler. There would be more whites, the White-Guilt Industry would be no more than half of its current size, secular Jews would have no mechanism by which to peddle their genocidal, anti-White hatred, Communism would have been dealt with when it was jammed in its Stalinist form…a better world all around.
The desire for cheap labor has been the biggest source of our racial problems throughout history, whether it has been blacks in South Africa and the American South, Asians in the Western United States in the 19th century, Eastern and Southern Europeans in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, Turks in post-World War II Germany, Caribbeans and South Asians in post-World War II Britain, or Hispanics in the United States today.
South Africa and the American South are not at all good models. Demography is destiny. The people who occupy a territory determine the nature of the society. When two groups occupy the same territory, mixture and amalgamation are inevitable. Segregation, apartheid, caste systems, and supremacism cannot save us. Racial separation is the only thing that can.
When they were still in control and had the power to do so, whites in South Africa ought to have carved a white enclave (which absolutely forbade the use of black or other non-white labor) out of part of South Africa rather than attempting to maintain a hold on to the whole country through apartheid.
In the United States, a partition of the country into independent ethnostates is the only solution. If anyone opposes separation and instead wants a white cultural “reconquest” of a multiracial America, as Sam Francis advocated in the March 1995 issue of American Renaissance, I recommend Richard McCulloch’s reply to Francis in the June 1995 issue of American Renaissance ( The Preservationist Imperative – http://amren.com/ar/1995/06/index.html#cover ).
It will be a home-schooling, market dominant minority nation that energetically buys up towns and takes them over, one at a time, like Mormons, without much media coverage negative or positive, because the mass media is going out of business anyway.
To anyone whose goal is racial preservation, as mine is, being a market dominant minority in a multiracial society, like Jews or Overseas Chinese, is completely contrary to what we want. Ethnostates are our goal. Separation is a necessary condition for preservation. Racial preservation requires reproductive isolation, which requires geographic separation. To oppose separation is to oppose preservation.
Uh oh…
“Though Hitler was indeed racist and anti-Semitic to the core, a man who without compunction could commit murder and genocide, he was also an individual of great courage, a soldier’s soldier in the Great War, a political organizer of the first rank, a leader steeped in the history of Europe, who possessed oratorical powers that could awe even those who despised him…Hitler’s success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path. ” Pat Buchanan, August 25th, 1977
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Pat_Buchanan#.22Great_courage.22_controversy
I don’t think that Hunter gives Hitler enough credit. Hunter says that Hitler did some good things, but so did Lincoln and FDR, thus it is no more accurate to call HW a Hitler-admirer than it is to call him a Lincoln-admirer. Fair enough.
But an important distinction needs to be made here: there are policies, and then there are the goals pursued through the policies. One cannot really evaluate a statesman just by looking at his policies. One has to ask about the goals he is pursuing.
And I have to ask: of the three statesmen — Hitler, Lincoln, and FDR — which one advocated the policies closest to HW’s own stated goal of a white ethnostate free of Jewish domination?
Isn’t that goal the overriding criterion for determining which statesmen and policies we admire? And by that criterion, Hitler is clearly far more admirable than the others, and the Third Reich is far more admirable than the Jim Crow South or the Confederacy or the Belgian Congo(!), which Hunter claims to prefer to the Third Reich.
I admire Hitler because of all twentieth-century politicians, his goals are closest to my own and many of his social programs still make sense today. Beyond that, he had many admirable personal traits — intelligence, intellectual honesty, courage, sincerity, love of his own — and he was highly cultivated in art, music, and architecture.
That said, simply copying Hitler is not enough to bring about the white ethnostate we seek.
Surely the largest part of the problem is just the bad publicity attached to his name, but there really is no way to dodge that publicity, since our enemies don’t care about truth or honesty or fine distinctions. So if you are going to get the grief anyway, then by all means, as CC says, go for the gravy too. Whining about the stigma attached to Hitler’s name changes nothing. The only way to avoid a complete loss is to learn what there is on value in AH, and there is a lot of value to learn.
But beyond that, what worked in Germany in the 20s and 30s will not work for the United States in 2010. We have a different culture, a different political system, and a hundred million non-whites within our borders.
Frankly I do not know what the solution will be, but I sincerely believe that the collapse of Communism and the breakup of the USSR, Yugoslavia, and Czechoslovakia have more practical lessons to offer us than the rise of the NSDAP. I also think that Harold Covington is right that the emergence of the Irish Republic may be a better model for creating a North American white ethnostate than the German experience. Thus I have been concentrating my reading in those areas.
I really have enjoyed reading the discussion on this thread, particularly the remarks of MGLS, Randy, and Denise.
Note that Hitler had many fatal character traits and is responsible fpr errors that brought the downfall and the final Götterdämmmerung. The biggest one was that he entered the Sowjetunion as a conqueror, not as a liberator from the Stalinistic rule. In fact in the Ukraine German troops were greeted a such, but this mood turned over pretty quickly after Hitler’s oppressive colonial policy. Still, an army of almost one million Russians was raised under General Wlassow, but few saw action in combat. Hitler’s racial thinking excluded the slaws, and in that respect he was still caught in 19th century thinking. After Stalingrad he dragged on a war that was impossible to win. In the end he explicitly wished for the German people to perish.
GM,
I will give you same advice I gave Chechar. Don’t explore this subject for a few years. I didn’t get it at first myself. You are making the same arguments I was making back in 2004.
“Challenging (domestic) Islam is important. Few things better demonstrate the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of modern liberalism/leftism than its craven acquiescence to an Islamic primitiveness that brazenly flaunts liberals’ own cherished ideals. I’d love to see these contemptible cunts (the loony liberals) rounded up and paraded down the street for the people to beat them with sticks and publicly urinate on them, so wretched are they.”
Wow, that sounds eerily like a neoconservative Fox News commentary. These clever little tricks that your people are so good at doing, like creating ethnic animosity amongst your enemies, have become too transparent to be effective. If the Western countries are too cowardly to throw the Jews out of their countries then let the muslims do it for them.
My interest in the Confederacy naturally stems from my own roots and culture. I had ancestors that fought for Southern independence in the War Between the States. Every small town in Alabama has a Confederate monument. Andersonville is close to home in Southwest Georgia. The archives and battlefields of the Civil War and Reconstruction are easily accessible. I know a lot more about the subject than NS Germany.
I became interested in the Belgian Congo and South Africa because they were colonies like the American colonies. Colonial Whites in Africa developed a sense of racial consciousness – as opposed to European-style ethnic consciousness – that I found to be more similar to Southern Whites. There are parallels in Southern and South African history like the Great Trek and the expansion into the Old Southwest or the demise of Jim Crow and Apartheid from outside pressure.
There aren’t many racialists who are interested in the history of racialism in the colonies: North America, South America, Africa, Australia and New Zealand. This is an underexplored subject. A few years ago, I began researching the subject, taking notes, and compiling material for a future book.