Sometimes criticizing an essay just gets in the way of letting the essay humiliate itself. This article in The Spearhead entitled: White Nationalism? More like White Knight Nationalism, is one of those times. Patrick Ford over at Alt.Right keeps worrying about the Libertarian Problem tearing the young confederation apart, but the blood has been splattering the walls already on a much more visceral subject – game. Things will only get more brutal, as traditionalists and tribalists who embraced structured gender roles and biological differences before science got around to corroborating us have to deal with hordes of sexually frustrated modernist creepers who are treating the waves of incoming human biodiversity data like another set of video game cheat codes.
That WN article was silly. Not sure if that writer is White or not, but if he is it sounds like a typical White guy displaying his “look how enlightened and non-racist I am” I.D. card. WN is an easy target for those guys. I haven’t noticed any extra feminism, white knightism, or misandry in WN.
Besides that article, I do like The Spearhead. It’s not a Game site. Most of the articles are of the anti-feminism/pro-male variety. Feminism is a significant factor in the decline of men and America, and many of the articles and commentary there offer good insight into how and why. There’s very little about Game, although the subject does come up in the comments on occasion.
Some of the comments under the article were supportive of WN.
The gamers are overrepresented at The Spearhead though.
What passes for “pro-Male” on the right seems to be less about returning to traditional notions of sexuality and more about pent up sexual frustration. It’s really irritating to read this sort of nonsense day in and day out.
What passes for “pro-Male” on the right seems to be less about returning to traditional notions of sexuality and more about pent up sexual frustration. It’s really irritating to read this sort of nonsense day in and day out.
Completely agree.
So much of everything on the ‘Right’ these days seems less a desire of a return to traditional anything and more about pent-up frustrations over anything and everything.
I wish I had known those cheat codes when I was 20! I had most advantages of looks and fitness. I remember not getting it when a sat next to a cute blonde dance major on a bus who all but jumped into my arms! I realized later that she was giving me every cue she could, and I was just “duh, she’s out of my league, she’d never go for me.” Maybe I dodged a bullet — she was an American girl after all, and I was busy learning Russian and had written off American females.
Men should study Game even if they plan to be totally marriage-track monogamous. It’s good to keep the marriage interesting, and keep your life interesting in general. Too many of us are just living in our own heads all the time, myself included. Now I make innocent jokes and try to have something of a personality, and focus on the emotional states of the people around me.
As far as “white-knight nationalism,” your best bet is to go for a super high IQ (White of course) woman for eugenic breeding, to create baby Mind-Weapons. If you can’t find one here, learn Russian and go there.
That writer sounds like a Marxist.
“Men of all nations unite! We must overthrow the matriarchy!”
Yeah, men of all colors have so much in common, that’s why white men and black men voted for the same presidential candidates in 2008. Oh wait, that election was divided by race and not gender! And what about crime? How many white feminists are out destroying neighborhoods and robbing people?
It’s entirely reasonable to recognize that modern “feminism” is nothing but Jewish ethnic warfare. Susan Sontag, Andrea Dworkin, Betty Friedan, etc. Breaking down our gender roles was just one method of attacking White civilization, but it hasn’t been their only method, and it certainly shouldn’t be our main concern in life.
Sam Davidson,
Yup, it’s not at all a stretch to see feminism as a Jewish movement against the west. While Jews are involved in every radical leftist movements, they’re overrepresented even more so in feminism.
Maybe a year or two ago there was a semi-scandal between Jewish feminist Naomi Wolf and some neoconservatives/moderate liberals over her statements about women in the Middle East. She essentially praised the traditional gender roles in Israel and Islamic nations, and some neocons were baffled. How could she support traditional, and even abusive conditions for women in the Middle East while insisting on “female empowerment” in the West?
Easy – feminism is her ethnic weapon for disintegrating the white West. None of the neocons could grasp such a thing, and accused her of holding double standards instead.
I disagree with the concluding paragraph of the ‘White Knight’ article, but it is a very good criticism of a large portion of the ‘white nationalist’ movement.
As to the whole ‘game’ thing, I’m not a fan, but it’s more of a result of cultural degeneracy than a cause of it. If women wouldn’t go for the guys who did that stuff, men would be less likely to do it. I’m not so sure they do, I think a large part of the ‘game’ and its predecessors (David Somebody that I got a bunch of email spam from) is based more on a model of marketing to ‘needy’ males than any actual value of the products, similar to AmWay and those videos with dwarves telling you how to make money off real estate.
“I disagree with the concluding paragraph of the ‘White Knight’ article, but it is a very good criticism of a large portion of the ‘white nationalist’ movement.”
Actually it was incredibly brainless and historically inaccurate.
Also it slandered the KKK and Women of the Old South.
Ross Jeffries. Jewish. ‘Nuff said.
(That’s all anyone needs to know about Game right there.)
White men and white women are on the same team – the White Team! Anything that weakens our team is bad. Anything that strengthens our team is good.
“If women wouldn’t go for the guys who did that stuff, men would be less likely to do it.”
And if men didn’t go for the women who go for the men who did that stuff, women would be less likely to do it.
Fair gender relationships for all!
Game works. Speed seduction works. It does help a lot of geeky engineer types, too.
“And if men didn’t go for the women who go for the men who did that stuff, women would be less likely to do it.”
That doesn’t follow.
I’d say White Angosaxon Protestants are a lot better represented among Feminisms early crusaders than Jews were and are today.
Not everything is a Jewish plot, and most things that WNs peg as Jewish plots are clearly artefacts of Western culture, without any active Jewish influence needed to explain it. I mean, really, Andrea Dworkin? No living person has been all that important to Feminism and it got it’s start a long time before any Jew would be taken seriously by polite society. Feminism didn’t get to be what it is today without white Christian men doing the leg work.
Percey Shelley and William Blake were not Jews, and neither was the radical egalitarian Plato for that matter. Feminism is about as Jewish as Christianity (which would be a different topic).
The criticism of WNs as being White Knights isn’t at all unfounded, is perfectly valid, even if the article does end on a ‘feel good’, ‘I’m not racist, no really!’ note. Anyone who has associated with WNs, in real life, or on the internet has seen the pedestalization and deference shown to white women.
A poster said white men and white women are both on ‘Team White’. By that token so are most neocons and libertine libertarians, and the miscenegators; because they are white. The truth is there are a lot of white people not on ‘Team White’. That team doesn’t even really exist there are so many white people actively against it.
The WKKK is a perfect example and a precedent of what happens when undue deference is shown to women. The WKKK were fantastically unsuccessful in prosecuting any of the KKKs goals as they pertained to white heritage. They very effectively did expand the political power of women however; by exploiting deferential men who were willing to go along with their game of “Let’s you and him fight.”
The WKKK was primarily targeting lower class whites that they deemed to be lacking in virtuosity. They were Puritan crusaders on a witch hunt against fellow whites, because they were too Catholic, or weren’t tea totallers, or they mocked the Klans sufraggettes for not fulfilling their marriage bonds (because they were too busy with activism).
The Klan has practically no women now, because women are not going to support a movement that doesn’t ‘liberate’ women; and indeed in supporting traditional white culture, supports a system of Patriarchy where women are more often than not deferential to men. Women are welcomed as full members of the Klan and can even rise to leadership. Without a seperate power structure that men do not exert any authority over, the Klan is unappealing, not disimilar from women being on ‘Team White’ I suspect.
WNs in combatting this have become deferential to WN women; and in giving their opinions weight because of the sex of the speaker they have allowed women to ‘cut in line’ and circumvent any logical, heirarchical, or merit based system. Are there even any female posters here that haven’t made their genital configuration explicit knowledge? To what end?
‘As a woman…’
‘From a woman’s perspective…’
To gain deference from men foolish enough to offer it; in order to wield social power through you. The entire idea of women ‘civilizing’ men and ‘restoring’ women to their proper place of respect and honor that is pervasive in the WN community is a cancer upon it. In order to accomplish that goal you will have to return to a patriarchical system, and women are most emphatically not going to want to see that happen in any strong numbers.
How many women here want to return to a robust and unapologetic patriarchy? Not one where you could form political boiler groups like the WKKK either and coax armed mobs of white men to hunt down and lynch Whitey Joe, the Klansmen town butcher because he got too drunk one night and called his wife a cunt.
Maybe WNs should at least study some ‘Game’ even if they don’t intend on employing it in ‘the field’. At least you’d be familiar with what a Shit Test is, and how female psychology actually works. WN women are testing you for dominant traits left and right and you are largely failing. Here is a good rule of thumb. If a woman is talking deeply from the heart, she is almost definitely lying; and if she isn’t she’ll still respect you more for not giving a shit and doing things your own way anyway and treating her like a bratty stepsister (that you might consider fucking).
Learn it, live it, love it.
“I mean, really, Andrea Dworkin? No living person has been all that important to Feminism and it got it’s start a long time before any Jew would be taken seriously by polite society.”
That’s a lie. Betty Friedan is still alive and she was absolutely central to turning millions of Women into Feminists and of moving the center of Feminist discourse far to the left compared to where it was before.
“How many women here want to return to a robust and unapologetic patriarchy?”
The majority of Women in Iraq voted for Sharia to be enshrined in the Iraqi Constitution. The whole idea that Women are inherently subversive of Patriarchy is profoundly wrongheaded.
“Not one where you could form political boiler groups like the WKKK either…”
Most White Women have never heard of the WKKK.
Most White Women wouldn’t support Women losing the vote, but that isn’t a realistic goal anyway.
“Not one where you could form political boiler groups like the WKKK either and coax armed mobs of white men to hunt down and lynch Whitey Joe, the Klansmen town butcher because he got too drunk one night and called his wife a cunt.”
None of the Women I know have the slightest desire to coax Men to form lynch mobs, much less lynch mobs against someone for just saying something in private conservation.
I mean, John McCain called his wife a “Cunt” in front of reporters, without even the excuse of being drunk, and no Women I know supported the idea of lynching him.
Even after I told them about the “Cunt” thing, I still couldn’t get them to go along with the idea!
Ah well, perhaps Hayworth will beat him and make this all a moot point.
The Spearhead is not racialist, and along the the anti-WN article, they have been posting a lot of black propaganda lately by the contributor Obsidian.
Supposedly, our commonality with other Men is more primary than our commonality with our race. Also, as a commenter on my blog recently put it, racism is just a way for our elite masters to divide us. Bunk.
The Spearhead is losing steam, becoming more and more of Welmer’s personal blog, and the sheer amount of anti-female sentiment expressed there serves to invalidate itself.
It is ironic that a Gamer criticizes WN, when there is nary a Game blogger out there that has a family. In fact, most explicitly oppose family formation.
There can be no accommodation there. Which comes first, your Race or your Sex? If your Sex comes first, your place is the Spearhead.
what Kievsky said
ignoring uncomfortable truths doesn’t make them go away
One can acknowledge biomechanics, understand them, and even apply them without being degenerate, exploitive, and dishonorable. Therein lies the difference between HBD WNs and HBD gamers. We both see the same data in front of us. The WN says “Yes! I can use this knowledge to rescue my people from oblivion!” The HBD gamer says “Yes! I’m totally gonna score!”
It’s the distinction between modernity and tradition boiled down to its most simple, visceral polarity.
And don’t try pushing back that scoring will save the race. Traditional mating strategies have proven time and again to outperform whoring around by every metric except for immediacy of gratification.
From the “Jewish Women’s Archive” website:
Jewish Women and the Feminist Revolution
“Jewish women have played key roles in building and advancing the modern American women’s movement.”
They seem quite proud enough to openly proclaim it themselves.
So why not take their word for it, instead of insinuating that we’re obsessed about some “Jewish plot?”
K(yle),
Almost every Jewish-led social movement in the West has relied upon European philosophy to provide a crude justification for their aims. There were feminists before the Jews took over, just as there were Communists before Marx was born. It doesn’t make their movements any less Jewish. The Jewish role in undermining our race’s natural defenses has already been exposed on this site. Search for “Jewish Activists and White Institutions.”
You are wrong about Plato, though. He was not an egalitarian. He believed in rigidly defined social classes with a strong central leadership. He was willing to even invent a ‘noble lie’ to reinforce his class system and maintain stability.