Alternet Insanity: Social Services Better Than Families

May 11, 2010 Kievsky Progressives 23

I was amazed to see someone on the left actually say outright our worst fears about the loony left; they actually believe that a welfare check is as good as an intact family:

Ross Douthat’s Novel Theory on What’s Wrong With the “Underclass”

This post originally appeared on Shakesville.

“In the underclass (black, white and Hispanic alike), intact families are now an endangered species.”—Ideologically moribund dipshit Ross Douthat, using his New York Times column to wring his hands about how the times they are a-changing.

Note to Ross Douthat: These days, lots of families fail by design to fit your definition of “intact,” i.e. “the ideal of the two-parent family,” wherein those two parents are married and of the opposite sex. But that doesn’t mean they’re broken. Yeesh.

But I guess I oughtn’t expect to be reasonable someone who spends a good portion of his column wrestling with the idea that it’s somehow cheating, some sort of smug chicanery, that the East Coast liberals whose families look most like his ideal only achieve that model via their tricksy immoral reliance on abortion.

Yeah, well, Mr. Conservative Genius, call me when you’re ready to try our idea: A robust network of social services to service all Americans equally, including those shattered riffraff in the underclass.

Leftists really do despise and fight human nature, with very cruel outcomes. I come from a generation of latchkey kids, whereas my kid is actually being raised, and it’s all the difference in the world. My kid is an enthusiastic athlete and an honor student. She doesn’t need to rebel to get attention.

Real right-wing or conservative values are all about conforming to our true nature, and maybe even accentuating our true nature to an ideal. I can tell that when I am cultivating the soil and bringing plants from a seed to food I am doing fulfilling something instinctual or in my own intrinsic nature.

We are NOT tabula rasae. There is definitely something to “biological determinism.” Right-wing ideology is about honoring that which is good and productive in our innate natures, and defending our right to be what we are.

Leftists hate human nature and are on a crusade to try and change it or destroy it through vice and social degeneracy. They don’t succeed in this, but they do manage to wreak a lot of havoc on the lives of children who grow up without families, now that families are just another “lifestyle choice” no better than popping out kids by different babydaddies and collecting a weffare check.

23 Comments

  3. I knew that piece was written by a woman before I clicked on it. There must be a style-sheet out there that all progressive womyn are required to follow.

    – Reasoned analysis is for reactionaries. You’re really, really angry, and it should show.

    – The more profanity the better: it shows you’re not a prude, reactionary, asshole.

    – Be angry.

    – The thrust of your argument should always be that your asshole opponent takes the positions he does largely because of his personal inadequacies.

    – Nothing womyn or non-whites do is ever wrong. Unless they’re conservative.

    – Be really angry.

  4. Families, like races, are inherently unequal, therefore they must be managed by the state.

    So the blues abort and the reds divorce. I’ll take divorce over abortion of Whites.



  5. More like NAMBLA values.

    Many in the HBD community are always defending sexualizing minors, and claim that it’s “feminist” to discourage it. I find it disgusting.

  7. Reginald: While I am a Northern European, I am not a Nordicist. If anything, I have actually argued against splitting Northern and Southern Europeans into separate nations in North America.

    Also consider, the Swedes are probably the most racially liberal ethnic group in Europe.

  8. “Women who are aged 30 to 34 are at increased risk for miscarriage if the male is over age 40. Women who are over age 35 are at particularly high risk if their partners are over age 40. In this group, the risk for miscarriage was 6 times higher.'”

    Probably, to compensate for the increased risk of congenital birth defects associated with older men more likely to sire birth defected children.

  9. Here’s her pic

    Feminism is a refuge for women whose femininity appeals to no one.

  10. Steve, you have also advocated we accept racially mixed people and non-Europeans as White.

    Do you at least acknowledge North America was a British colony, founded and populated by Northwestern Europeans that are still the vast majority today? Do you think a founding population has the right to preserve themselves and the character of the nation they founded?

  11. “While I am a Northern European, I am not a Nordicist. If anything, I have actually argued against splitting Northern and Southern Europeans into separate nations in North America.”

    Sure Steve. I was addressing Mark with my comment about Sweden.

    “Also consider, the Swedes are probably the most racially liberal ethnic group in Europe.”

    While that’s true, it’s worth noting that the Hungarians are among the most racially conservative groups in Europe and have an age of consent which is even lower.

  12. “Probably, to compensate for the increased risk of congenital birth defects associated with older men more likely to sire birth defected children.”

    A lot of miscarriages have the cause that the child was too defective to be worth the while of the Mother’s body to bring to term.

    But it’s very important to understand that the increased risk of miscarriage was only found with older men who had impregnated Women over the age of 30.

    With older Men and Women under 30 the study found no elevated risk of miscarriage.

    This makes sense from the standpoint of genetic theory, as so many birth defects are caused by doubled negative recessives.

    To get a doubled negative recessive you need something negative coming from both parents, not just the father.

  13. Mark: I do not see how your question to me is related to this thread, but here is my response:

    Question 1: I will concede most of the American Atlantic Seaboard was a British, and even English colony. However, I think the ethnic (obviously White, not mestizos) Spaniards should receive credit for first colonizing Florida; the Dutch should receive credit for first colonizing New jersey and Southern New York; and the French deserve credit for Quebec. The other ethnic contributions notwithstanding, I do support keeping the English language and English Common Law-although we do need to be genetically inclusive of other European ethnic groups.

    Question 2: Yes, I actually do support the preservation of an English community in Eastern North America. I find it sad, seeing the Colonial English community and heritage of Massachusetts die away. The heritage of Jamestown and Plymouth must be preserved!
    On the other hand, I do not endorse forming European ethnic-group based ethostates in America which can be divided and work against each other, when we have potential Black and Brown ethostates to ward off. I also do not support throwing an Irishman in jail for marrying a Polish woman; or a Ukrainian for marrying an English or Scottish woman. This aside, I do support the de facto preservation of the Colonial English-American community.

  14. However, I think the ethnic (obviously White, not mestizos) Spaniards should receive credit for first colonizing Florida

    From pp. 192-193 in The Conquest of a Continent, here is Madison Grant on Spain and the colonization of Florida:

    Florida missed the establishment of one of the earliest and what might have been one of the greatest of Nordic colonies in North America when Coligny’s settlement of Huguenots was massacred by the Spanish on September 20, 1565. The latter made no effective use of the territory which was looked upon by the government of Mexico probably in about the same light as the Virgin Islands are now looked upon by the government in Washington. In 1763 Spain ceded Florida to England in return for Havana, which had been captured during the Seven Years’ War.

    A second Nordic invasion of Florida occurred at the time of the American Revolution when the English Loyalists from the Southern colonies sought refuge there to the number of more than 13,000. If these had remained as permanent settlers the State would have benefited immensely, but most of them left in 1784, when the Spaniards reoccupied the territory and abolished religious freedom. Some went to England and others to the West Indies or Nova Scotia. The development of the peninsula was thereby long delayed.

  16. Spaniards should receive credit for first colonizing Florida

    Quite the opposite, we should be thankful they ceded it and didn’t make a permanent colony. It would have been just another Afro-mestizo hellhole. In addition as MGLS quoted they massacred Nordics. So let’s not pretend that inter-ethnic difficulties are somehow because of evil Nordicists.

    A lot of tangential topics come up in threads, and I wasn’t the one who brought it up. We can leave it there.

  17. Mark: I agree we should be thankful for America receiving it! You are correct the Spanish elites would have turned it into the rest of Latin America-importing Black slaves and even AmerIndians from Central & South America.

    I am not supporting the idea of blaming Northern Europeans for starting inter-subracial conflict. Anti-racists are guilty of this, just as they blame Whites for virtually all “racism.”

    My idea of giving Spain a legacy, gives us White Americans (mostly Northern Europeans, anyways) an inheritance, a claim to this State (or at least substate, with North and Central FL); it’s not like I am suggesting returning FL to Spain. It can also be associated with Spain’s fight against the invading Muslim Moors and even contribution to the Crusades.

  18. A lot of tangential topics come up in threads, and I wasn’t the one who brought it up. We can leave it there.

    Yes, please leave it there, and stop riding this hobby horse of yours into every thread discussion imaginable. You have chased enough good commenters away with this obsession of yours.

  19. Yes, please leave it there, and stop riding this hobby horse of yours into every thread discussion imaginable. You have chased enough good commenters away with this obsession of yours.

    I second this and given the frequency and relentlessness of it, I am wondering if “Mark” is not a provacateur of sorts. Some, maybe even most, of us enjoy comments from Scrooby and Charlamagne and do not appreciate them being pushed away, especially from someone in no way involved with this blog!

  20. Leftists are essentially destroyers. They always seek to attack, undermine and destroy anything resembling traditional values. They despise the organic institutions that once gave communities cohesion, order, context and meaning. They also seem to despise beauty and happiness itself, gravitating instead toward ugliness and misery.

    Of course, they claim that by attacking all of these things, they are attacking inequality. By undermining the traditional family, we should have entered an Age of Aquarius. Of course, it didn’t happen that way. Intead, we have an Age of Rape, Murder, Exploitation and Ugliness. I suspect that for some Leftists, this was the plan all along. The hippy dippy talk was just cover, a charade.

    Undermining traditional morality and restraint has now spread far beyond the bedroom. Nature abhors a vacuum, and what has filled the void is increasingly a “do anything you can get away with” approach to life. We now see this at all levels of society, including in the financial system today. In the absence of moral restraint and cohesive communities, the wealthy are free to exploit and defraud others. It’s just expected now, as of course it would be in a society that values nothing more than appetite and acting upon one’s whim. In the past, a strong moral code combined with intact communities provided at least some natural checks upon what the wealthy could do. Cohesive communities could mobilize if need be, not to mention take up arms. No more. Deracinated, atomized and immoral morons are no threat whatsoever to the financial elite.

    That’s the dirty little secret about the Left: it pretends to oppose corporate interests, but nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, it works to destroy any natural checks on corporate power. Who is the last man standing after the Left swings its wrecking ball? The financial elite. This is why the financial elite fund Leftist causes, but never provide the white nationalist cause with so much as a red cent. Follow the money.

  21. I second this and given the frequency and relentlessness of it, I am wondering if “Mark” is not a provacateur of sorts. Some, maybe even most, of us enjoy comments from Scrooby and Charlamagne and do not appreciate them being pushed away, especially from someone in no way involved with this blog! – Cyd
    —

    And I second this wholeheartedly, Cyd!

    How strange to hound Fred Scrooby by obsessively pointing out his remote Jewish ancestry, who has more to intellectually say and offer to Our Cause in any single, random comment that Fred makes, than ‘Johnny-One-Song’ “Mark” does in virtually a whole month.

    Fred Scrooby and Charlemagne: PLEASE COME BACK HOME TO YOUR BROTHERS AND COMRADES.

  23. Yes, please leave it there, and stop riding this hobby horse of yours into every thread discussion imaginable. You have chased enough good commenters away with this obsession of yours.

    Why don’t you mind your own business and grow a pair. Some of you are really whiny, effeminate, beta posers who need everyone to pat them on the back and agree or you just can’t cope. Any dissent from this White egalitarianism and monomaniacal anti-Jewish obsession is viewed as trollish or provocative by your simple minds.

    I couldn’t care less what VNNtards, mestizos, mischlings and the sheep who follow them think.

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