Kievsky meets the Tea Party on the 4th of July

So I met the Tea Party, at long last! At least a branch of it. A branch, however, that made the recent SPLC’s oxymoronic“intelligence report”

Militia Midwife?
Robert “Bob” Schulz, 70

When the history is written about the rebirth of the antigovernment Patriot movement, Robert “Bob” Schulz may be the man credited with setting the cornerstone for this new era of militias, tax protesters and “sovereign citizens.”

The longtime tax protester convened a gathering of fellow tax defiers, militia enthusiasts, nativist extremists, anti-Obama “birthers” and others at Georgia’s Jekyll Island in May 2009. At the meeting, they mapped out “action plans” for a larger movement – one that would confront not only taxes but an array of issues that threaten to “collapse the Republic.”

That meeting led to an 11-day “continental congress” in St. Charles, Ill., hosted by Schulz’s organization, We the People. The November 2009 meeting drew more than 100 delegates from 48 states and birthed the “Articles of Freedom.” The document declares the federal government “now threatens our Life, Liberty and Property through usurpations of the Constitution.”

Schulz describes the events as merely gatherings of people concerned about the government and seeking a redress of grievances. He said the topic of militias focused on “well-regulated state militias.” Nevertheless, these meetings were remarkable for the level of cooperation demonstrated within the revitalized Patriot movement.

Schulz said the actions of the government – such as purchasing stakes in auto companies – are shocking people and “more and more people are talking about the Constitution.” Earlier this year, he offered an even more striking assessment. “There’s a huge patriot movement,” Schulz told a reporter. “I’ve been doing this kind of work for 30 years. Never have I seen the likes of what’s going on now. It’s delightful.”

The Jekyll Island gathering also is noteworthy because it parallels the origins of the Patriot movement of the 1990s. The modern militia movement was partly shaped at a 1992 meeting of radical-right leaders in Estes Park, Colo. At that gathering, known as the “Rocky Mountain Rendezvous,” a cross section of extremist leaders also put aside their differences to focus on a common enemy: the federal government. Schulz denied any knowledge of the meeting.

The end result of Schulz’s work may only be realized in time. The documents produced at the continental congress declare any infringement on the people’s liberty as described in the Constitution as an act of war that “the People and their Militias have the Right and Duty to repel.”

It’s amazing how sinister they make this man out to be. He is a very mild, civic minded “community service” type of man that I’ve seen all my life. He’s the kind of guy who’s running the soup kitchen and picking up garbage from the side of the road even though he made a fortune in this own business. I don’t know Schulz’s history of work or business, but he comes off as the very mild, Christian-minded community service type.

He is trim and fit at 70. He wore navy blue pants, a light blue button down short sleeve shirt with a lighter blue tie. This particular color scheme made a statement of “community minded individual with an idea to speak of.” There was no demagoguery in his dress or manner. Not that there’s anything wrong with demagoguery — it’s certainly part of my style, but not Schulz’s.

Schulz’s organization is called “We the People Foundation for Constitutional Education.” Intellectually, Schulz is very narrow and on message — the Constitution, the Constitution the Constitution. That is his ONLY message. The government should obey it’s own gosh-darn laws. Race or the JQ would only get in the way of his talking about the Constitution. He doesn’t care if bankers are Jews or Zulus or Chinese, he only cares that the bailouts and the Federal Reserve are un-Constitutional.

The second emcee was a lady named Judith Whitmore, founder of “Sing for America.” She led the Tea Partiers in several patriotic songs during the ceremony at Saratoga National Historic Park. From her dress and manner, I could see she was from an old New England family. Not every upper class Protestant joined the fashionable Manhattan commies, apparently — just most of them.

It was very much like an outdoor religious ceremony celebrating the traditional idea of the USA. We sang the American “national hymn” called “God of Our Fathers.” Then the Patriots Prayer, then the Star Spangled Banner with all three stanzas. Most of us only know the first stanza of that song. Here’s the whole thing:

The Star Spangled Banner Lyrics
By Francis Scott Key 1814

Oh, say can you see by the dawn’s early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
‘Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

Then we said “The Pledge of Allegiance” and then “The American’s Creed.” Then Robert Schulz gave a speech, “A Turning Point for America in Defense of the Constitution.” He had a browned, old fashioned looking document with the signatures he had gotten during the above mentioned Jekyll Island meeting.

It’s interesting that he had a meeting at Jekyll Island. This clearly bothered the SPLC’ers very much. Here’s why — Schulz was practicing, or attempting to practice white magic. Not “white” in the racial sense, but white magic in the sense of trying to undo the black magic of the Federal Reserve. The original meeting at Jekyll Island was of course a major act of Black Magic that continues to this day.

The ritual of sending Israeli kids to Auschwitz as shown in the film “Defamation” is an example of black magic. Abe Foxman is shown in this movie as a warlock/brainwasher for his fellow Jews. Especially where they are talking about Israel as their “insurance policy.”

In keeping alive talk of the Constitution, and a vision of a US government that is restrained and law abiding, the Tea Party movement is trying to undo the black magic of an out of control empire. Schulz is not a neocon; he wants the troops brought home and no wars launched without a Congressional declaration of war.

I anticipate a problem with the military adventurist neocon politicians such as Sarah Palin bumping against the hard core Constitutionalists on foreign policy. I hope the Tea Party smacks down these neocons who want to co-opt them.

We should support the white magic of the Tea Parties; and liberals should as well. If people like Schulz became president and reps and senators, we’d have our best chance at avoiding the bloodshed and mayhem that is surely coming. The US government is indeed the biggest criminal and perpetrator on the planet, and it wouldn’t surprise me if an international coalition of China and Russia and a bunch of other countries made an alliance against us when we “throw a(nother) country up against a wall” to quote neocon loon Michael Ledeen.

If the US is defeated in war, the victors should put Constitutionalists in power, and have Nuremberg trials for the neocon “predator drone” murderers. For heaven’s sake, there’s a huge faction of citizens in this country who have wanted to stop this military adventure madness for decades already.

The Tea Partiers are idealistic, compassionate mammalians. The worst I can say about them is they don’t have a chance of persuading the current rulers to give up power.

By contrast, I have given up hope on the piece of paper. Without a ruling class that voluntarily limits its own power by the piece of paper, it’s just piece of paper — a museum piece of a country that once was — an archive of a historical moment.

Where the Tea Partiers are compassionate mammalians trying to salvage what is left, I am a reptilian patiently waiting for my historical moment, as a salty croc patiently waits for its prey to wade in the river.

In a certain sense, a salty croc sees the future. It knows that it’s time will come — something tasty will put itself in range.

When a man has cultivated the reptilian mind, he becomes dispassionate and patient. He knows that just as planets move in an orbit around an energy center called a star, and electrons move in an orbit about a nucleus, history likewise moves in an orbit.

And it is possible to perceive the historical orbit, and see that our sunrise is just about here. It is the Dawning of our Age. The cornucopians, the egalitarians, the bleeding hearts whose hearts never bleed for white victims — the conditions in which they flourish are no more. Only inertia maintains them in power a bit longer.

The group we are fighting against, both White ethnic advocates, and Tea Partiers, are really nothing more than a “big government mafia.” So long as Uncle Sugar’s checks are honored, we haven’t a chance against the big government mafia. If we take a day off from work to protest them, we lose a day’s pay and maybe get fired for being “controversial.” If big government workers take a day off to march for their privileges, their supervisors will probably hand out awards to all the marchers.

We volunteers have little chance against the tax-funded mafia. However, these government workers have a learned helplessness. When Uncle Sugar goes broke, they got nothing.

Our best bet is to be entrepreneurs, because at least we don’t have to answer to a boss who might fire us for our political opinions. Also, the entrepreneur is more like an animal that knows how to survive “in the wild.” Like a lioness on the savannah, the entrepreneur is always on the lookout for the next chance to eat. When one niche is failing, he finds others. He learns how to seek out niches (hunting) that government and corporate workers never learn.

The reptilian mind knows that the global economy shall follow the trajectory of Enron, of the high tech boom, of the real estate boom, of Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns. It just takes a little longer:

From a Mark Ames article at Exiled Online Confessions of a Wall Street Nihilist

“You don’t get it, Ames. Even Khuzami, the SEC guy in charge of the Goldman case, is a fraud; the fucker was Deutsche’s general counsel when they pulled the same CDO scam as Goldman. You have no idea how deep this goes.”

And it’s clear that a lot more people here are aware of how fundamentally rotten things are but they’re not willing to face the big fraudonomics bummer yet, preferring instead to stick with specific accusations.

My position on this was, “Good, throw the book at those crooks too, I don’t see what the problem is here.”

This was exactly what I argued a week ago, during a verbal slapfight with that acquaintance of mine. We were making a scene in a Midtown yuppie restaurant, arguing over just how much damage Wall Street had caused, and what to do about it.

His position was indefensible, and he knew it, so he switched tactics:

“OK Ames, which bankers would you throw the book at? Because you’re arguing that they’re all guilty. So which ones do you go after? Two of them? Three? Half of them?”

“Every last one of them. Lock ’em up in one of their private prisons.”

“Not gonna happen, Che.”

“Che? Me? Listen, Scarface, I’m about law and order. Don’t any of you PE degenerates believe in that anymore?”

“OK, here’s the deal, Che. I’m going to walk you through this nice and slow so that even an agave-sweetened hippie like you can understand this. Stick with me, this is gonna be a little complicated. Ready?”

And so he began:

“Let’s say the government decides one day, ‘You know, we oughta listen to Che here, let’s throw the book at every firm and every executive that our people can make a case against. Because you know, gosh, it’s all about rule of law and blind justice, just like Che says.’ OK, so now this means indicting just about every serious player in finance, so they take down Goldman Sachs, they take down Citigroup, JP Morgan, BofA… and they also serve all the big funds who are at least as guilty, if not more. So they shut down Pimco, Blackrock, Citadel… maybe they indict Geithner and Summers, haul in some of Bush’s crooks… right?”

“Too bad they don’t serve popcorn here, this is getting good.”

“OK, now guess what you’ve just done? You’ve just caused the markets to completely tank. Remember what happened after the Lehman collapse? Remember how popular that made every politician in Washington? Still wondering why they coughed up a trillion bucks? They were scared for their lives; that’s why they voted for that bailout. You’d have done the same goddamn thing. But if we go after everyone guilty of fraud and theft, the market crash this country would see would make 2008 look like Sesame Street. Open that can of worms labeled ‘Fraud’ and the whole fucking economy collapses. You may as well prosecute people for masturbating. No one will know where the fraud investigation stops and who will be charged next—everyone will try to cash out, and the markets will tank to zero. And guess what happens when the markets tank to zero? Every fucking American with a retirement plan, or an investment portfolio, or a 401k—every state pension plan in the country, every teacher’s pension fund, every fireman’s pension—every last one of them will be wiped out. That’s what the Lehman collapse taught us.”

“Us? It didn’t teach us anything but that this country is run by maniacs.”


  1. A book I would recommend is “The Chief Culprit”, dealing with Stalin’s designs in starting WWII and his dream of conquering Europe.

    If anything it teaches strategy on a grand scale of it deceptions and lying and double dealing.

    Russia I believe is just positioning itself to profit handsomely if Iran is attacked and the Gulf oil resources are taken off the global hydrocarbon markets. (Soros as well)

    I think that our economic depression is also strengthening the hands of the ZOG, cult of Israel (most of the GOP energies are expended to make Obama pliable for a war for Israel).

    Hopefully the ZOG cult will lead the rest of America’s ruling clique of cults off the cliff.

  2. I wonder how many of these idiots know that the pledge of allegiance was written by a socialist (Francis Bellamy, 1892).

  3. In spite of all the cultural and political “developments” of recent decades, there remains, incredibly, a vast reservoir of decent(if misguided) people in this country.

  4. Bud,

    Those are the people keeping society running — the real “Atlas Shrugged” class, but it’s a class that is unable to shrug. Like the real Atlas, we are imprisoned under our own self imposed taking responsibility for society.

    The SPLC is the watchdog for any citizens who try to take responsibility for society away from the global bankster mafia. Local ordinary people like Bob Schulz are “way out of line” for objecting to the Federal Reserve just because of a grainy old piece of paper. “Constitutionalists” in this inverse world, are the dangerous ones because they cling to an outdated old piece of paper that was produced by a bunch of racist sexist pale males.

    The rulers have manufactured themselves consent, and de-privileged the citizenry. It only makes sense that society should be controlled by a consortium of TV station owners and finance speculators, right? What’s the constitution got to do with the banking agenda? Not a damned thing. We know who won this argument, but not the war.

    I think it’s possible that the Tea Party folks could seize power after the coming time of troubles era stabilizes. Things will be very unstable for a while, and the Tea Party people have emerged and become self aware, like Skynet.

  5. Kievsky – I don’t want ot rain on your parade. I believe that you are on the East Coast, n’est ce pas?

    Your ability to associate with these people will be in direct proportion to your ability to deal with their blind worship of the False Prophetsky Glenn BEK.

    Start telling ’em about Black on White crime stats, or that Israel is not our BFF, and see what happens next.

    You have that Croc mind….perhaps you can wait ’em out.

    Bon chance, mon ami.

  6. Well….

    to these never say die, not RACIST Constitutional patriots I would just say this;

    Rhodesia Zimbabwe also had a decent Constitution, guaranteeing private property, the rights of Whites to live in safety in a prosperous “not racialist” state that all conceded had a much better economy, infrastructure than neighboring all Black socialist states.

    How did that nice Constitution protect, save Whites in Zimbabwe?

    Not real well.

    The worst, lowest non Whites don’t understand or really care about White men’s laws, constitutions etc.

    And it is indeed very strange that at this late date, so many White men put all their time, energy and faith in constitutions, laws.

  7. I think we need to take it easy on the Tea Party types.

    Aren’t these the very people we need to convince?

    It seems to me we are more likely to make headway with Tea Party types than Leftists, Liberals, and Neocons.

  8. Nice development of article. Starts with long part making one think that tea party people are basically ok. Then, with mammalian/reptilian, we switch into a whole new section that tea party types are mislead because they are not aware of how bad the whole – not just their individual specific complaints – system is. (Hmm, reminds me of a brief review I recently did of existentialism. One of the bases on which existentialism was built is that very specific issues are actually part of problems with large areas of the role language plays in society and individuals in society – existentialism is Marxist but some of its bases apply generally).

    Your article also reminds me of – I’m not sure of this but I think recently you had two articles the first of which was hopeful and the second, written after bad elections results?, turned against the whole system.

    These are general comments. However I had a specific question. White ethnic advocates. What are they? Can you give me some definition of what you mean by the term. You write, “The group we are fighting against, both White ethnic advocates, and Tea Partiers,…”

    From your use of the words reptilian/mammalian, I can tell what you mean with those words. But I can’t tell what you are negative about toward “white ethnic advocates.” White ethnic advocacy can certainly be one of a multitude of positive struggles, all ebbing and flowing at different times, contributing to each other in their overall effect. There are a lot of groups of people in a civilization.

  9. Lew,

    White Lefties despise TPer’s. Ironically – White Lefties and TPer’s have the same sticking point. They meet at the same brick wall. They are both obsessively, pathologically, monomaniacly “NOT a RACIST!”.

    They manifest their reactions to any suggentions that White people….ummm…..errr…aaahhh….*are* actually *White* people in opposite ways.

    The Lefties want to kill White Advocates for actually being White Advocates. And will strive to do so.

    The TPer’s will gladly crawl off and eviscerate themselves, if there is even a whisper of charges of Racism levelled against them, or their Tea Party fellows – but that’s the only difference.

    The TPer’s may wake up, when they are absolutely surrounded by People Who Do Not Look Like They Do – but it’s gonna be a long hard slog, til then. And then it will be too late. The Lefties, who are the most obsidian hypocrites that have ever existed, will actually squeal like stuck pigs, when directly threatened with dire physical harm to their precious beings, and they are wizards at preserving and protecting thier own noxious lives.

    The TPers are Stoics – it’s Their Duty to Preserve and Protect the alien system that loots and slaughters them.

  10. The thing to remind characters like Schulz is that the Constitution was written by White Men for White Men.

    Is Schulz a descendent of the 1848 German immigration to the US. Is he a German Roman Catholic? Many, if not most of the 1848ers were Roman Catholics involved in the early Marxist/Anarchist movement in Germany. That fact has been forgotten.

  11. The mass of white folks in America are like a huge lump of sugar in a bucket of warm water. At least TPers are doing SOMETHING.

  12. “I think it’s possible that the Tea Party folks could seize power after the coming time of troubles era stabilizes. Things will be very unstable for a while, and the Tea Party people have emerged and become self aware, like Skynet.”

    – I just don’t understand your optimism here. When I look at these people (TP’ers) I see a lot of middle aged (or older) Whites many of whom may have been hippies carrying signs saying: “Make love, not war” in the 1960’s. This is the very group of people who stood aside or smilingly approved while the Democrat party formed a coalition of Negros, fags, Jews, and feminists to undermine the country “back in the day” all aided by that disgusting self hating Oreo-cookie-in-reverse named Teddy Kennedy (may he rot in hell forever, if there really is such a place) and his Jewish buddies who changed the immigration laws to the detriment of his own people.

  13. I think that a lot of the more “with it” TPers are well down the road to radicalization.

  14. Bob Schulz was never a hippie. He is an old fashioned community man, strong without being demagogic. The other people there were actually going door to door for their Tea Party candidates. They do more than we do.

  15. Sorry this is out of place, but if you want to make some headway on Reddit then make a post on Stormfront asking for help.

  16. Are there different kinds of Tea Parties headed up by different people? The impression I got at the one I attended was that it was lame. Republican speakers regurgitating the neoconservative party platform to a mostly older or elderly applauding audience.

  17. Denise I think you pointed out some very important considerations vis a vis the TP.
    The whole, “I LOVE LEGAL IMMIGRATION, IT’S ILLEGAL WE OPPOSE” the whole “WE ARE NOT RACIST, RACISTS ARE EVIL” is something they believe, because they self-talk themselves into acceptance of those black magic memes.

    TP don’t have the werewolf, or reptilian, or berserker ‘tude that will be a survival necessity for the future.
    Of course those who anticipate such a future are OUR people. Currently in disfavor with the ruling regime.

    Every cloud has a silver lining and the 3rd world invasion provides good, if unwitting, allies in the restoration of our homeland.

  18. The Tea Party has exactly the message that White Nationalists need to, and absolutely must adopt. The Constitution and America’s founding history are incredibly noble themes, created by the finest people that ever walked in the New World, that resonate deeply with normal White Americans.

    The tea partiers may not be ethnically aware, but they are almost all implicitly White, and subconsciously they hate and fear the idea of the US transforming into a non-White nation. The Tea Party themes are excellent, and should be adopted by the WN community for the purpose of persuading people. Every White Tea Partier is a prime candidate for eventual conversion to White Nationalism.

    The anti-federal government theme is particularly appropriate and useful for those of us who seek secession from the US. Combine the Tea Party with an anti-immigration platform, and we have basically a nationalist, implicitly White political movement that meets 80% of the goals of White Nationalists.

  19. I think we need to take it easy on the Tea Party types.

    Aren’t these the very people we need to convince?

    Not really. We need to convince the people who are intelligent, wealthy, and socially influential and tea party types are generally none of these things.

    It seems to me we are more likely to make headway with Tea Party types than Leftists, Liberals, and Neocons.

    Tea party types basically are neocons. In general there is no connection between racialism and conservatism and never has been, though most WNs have trouble understanding this.

  20. The Tea Party has exactly the message that White Nationalists need to, and absolutely must adopt.

    Many Tea Party themes revolve around “we don’t care about immigration as long it’s legal”, “winning the war on terror”, “free trade” and “Israel is our friend”. These aren’t exactly compatible with White Nationalist ideas. Despite what some people say I think there are millions of White Nationalists out there and people sympathetic to the cause who have split from the lamestream conservatives.

  21. Excellent article and comments as usual. Denise, thanks for “Glenn BEK”… good one. For those who don’t speak Afrikaans (or Dutch or similar), it translates as “Glenn Mouth”.

    Jack Ryan is correct, as usual. South Africa has just such a liberal constitution, but no rights for White people. Despite all the rhetoric about God-given rights, the fact is that nobody has any rights beyond those that he can enforce – individually or collectively.

    Bob in Idaho, I think maybe
    “The group we are fighting against, both White ethnic advocates, and Tea Partiers,…”
    is intended to be read in the sense of
    “The group we, both White ethnic advocates and Tea Partiers, are fighting against…”

  22. Reader says:
    July 5, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    I think we need to take it easy on the Tea Party types.

    Aren’t these the very people we need to convince?

    Not really. We need to convince the people who are intelligent, wealthy, and socially influential and tea party types are generally none of these things.

    It seems to me we are more likely to make headway with Tea Party types than Leftists, Liberals, and Neocons.

    Tea party types basically are neocons. In general there is no connection between racialism and conservatism and never has been, though most WNs have trouble understanding this.

    Do you think we have more potential sympathizers among Whites who voted for Obama?

  23. Do you think we have more potential sympathizers among Whites who voted for Obama?

    I don’t know that it matters much. McCain was not even remotely pro-white, and I remember the conservative infatuation with Colin Powell in the mid-90’s. There is also much more anti-Jewish sentiment on the left, and ultimately that’s what counts.

    People who are satisfied with Sarah Palin are going to be *very* difficult to recruit to WN. They are clearly not concerned with the same things we are. I don’t really see any other way to look at it.

  24. Bek is the Afrikaans word for beak and a rude word for a person’s mouth.

    Hou jou bek is the Afrikaans for shut up.

    This makes Denise talking about Glenn Bek even funnier

  25. One angle we should push with kosher conservatives and tea partiers is telling them they aren’t going to get the “conservative” government they want when they live in a racially diverse country. Tell them over and over that most of these non-whites are going to vote for democrats and liberalism forever. One thing as a former conservative that really pissed me off was realizing the government was bringing in millions of non-whites who would be voting for the enemy forever. The only solution for white conservatives who want conservative rule is separation or to move somewhere else.

  26. According to the MSM, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin are the front men for the Tea Party and the Tea Party is an arm of what the MSM calls the new right.

    This new right in America, we are to believe has nothing whatsoever to do with Spengler, Yockey, Evola, Guenon, de Benoist, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Mosley, Codreanu, Darwin, Jung, Gottfried, Bowden, Sunic, Schmitt, Hardin, Southgate, or Samuel Francis.

    Instead, according to our major information organs, it has entirely to do with a trio of militantly anti-intellectual yokels crazily ranting about Nazi eugenicists and global depopulation, wars, taxes and socialism, and Christian Fundamentalist ideology.

    The hilarity continues!

  27. With apologies, I was did not intend to deploy the Afrikaans’ meaning of the work “bek”, in my spelling of GB’s name – although it’s utterly fitting.

    I was referring to the term “bek” in relationship to “kagan”. The Bek were the factotums of the Kagans.

    This is what Glenn Beck is, now.

  28. I have bene involved with Tea Party groups. They are…..way behind the curve. I’m being kind.

    Re the illegal vs. legal smoke and mirrors game? I have personally verbally beeyach-slapped all the Patriotards I’ve encounted, who start foaming at the mouth when I have stated that we *must* cease and desist with all immigration. They immediately personalize the issue, and start mewling and raving about what their families did. I point out all the differences between then, and now. Pre 1965. and Post.

    I tell them they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves, for their callous and unthinking betrayal of all they say they want to occur vis a vis “taking their country back”. I tell them that they are acting against the best interests of the Nation, and elucidate a host of reasons – but “reason” is something I never get, in response.

    Just for fun, those of your attempting to deal with e Patriotard types – ask your subject if they think that Mexican gangbangers, and all the rest, would magically turn into Jeffersonian Republicans, of the Magic Legal Citizen Wans were waved, over all the illegals.

  29. Perhaps I am letting my own experience color my judgment.

    I personally know many WN who are ex-lamestream cons or ex-paleos and none who are ex-Liberals, ex-mainstream Leftists, or ex-Far Leftists.

    So as hard as it is to imagine a Rush/Beck/Hannity/Tea Party person coming over to our side, I find it harder still to imagine White Liberals and Obama supporters ever coming over.

  30. Denise, I just wanted to compliment you on your writing style. Between the sarcasm, the “verbal beeyach-slapping” and the French, I think it’s awesomely amusing. Je parle un peu francais (deus ans a la lycee), mais pas beaucoup (gosh, I hope that was right 🙂 ).

  31. Kievsky: “….(is) a reptilian waiting for my historical moment, as a salty croc waits for its prey to step in a river.” YOWZUH! And right now the Zionist-globalistas are pacing back and forth on the river’s edge, trying to figure out how to get to the opposite bank, their New Jerusalem, universal world gubmint. The soon-to-be-attempted bridge: martial law + PM and gun grab. That’s when we lunge, sink our teeth in, and drag them under.

  32. “Lew”

    Over the course of perhaps twenty years as a fully aware WN, I would have to say that I have seen little evidence that suggests the Neo/Paleo/ TP types actually ARE any more likely to convert to our side than the Libs or Obama-ites. I know it seems as if this should be the case, but I have seen it happen only in very rare case, when at all. In fact, I know a few people I would otherwise categorize as straight-out liberal, who are more racially aware and open to discussion of the J-Question than almost any Patriotard/conservative/TP type I know or have encountered.

    In the big picture – across a spectrum of issues, I think it safe to say the TP/conservative folks are closer to us than the average lib, or middle-of-the-roader. But on the major issues – the issues most WN believe the make-or-break matters we must deal with, the differences between the two are merely academic, if they exist at all. And in my own experience, the Patriotards are every bit as pig-headed and hysterical as the most bleed-heart college lefty you can imagine.

    Tough times for White folks…

  33. So as hard as it is to imagine a Rush/Beck/Hannity/Tea Party person coming over to our side, I find it harder still to imagine White Liberals and Obama supporters ever coming over.

    There’s pluses and minuses in trying to talk about this stuff with liberals. I wouldn’t waste my time with hardcore “anti-racist” types, but they’re a pretty small minority of whites. In general there’s less groupthink and obedience to authority among liberals, so they’re more likely to entertain an idea not endorsed by church or television.

  34. In the big picture – across a spectrum of issues, I think it safe to say the TP/conservative folks are closer to us than the average lib, or middle-of-the-roader. But on the major issues – the issues most WN believe the make-or-break matters we must deal with, the differences between the two are merely academic, if they exist at all.

    That’s a pretty good way of putting it.

  35. Compassionate Fascist,

    Something like what you described, is what I think is playing out. It’s going to be pure Hell for all of us, really. To get rid of tapeworms, you have to take medicine that makes you very sick, but the human organism can live through this sickness, the tapeworms cannot. That’s kind of what’s going to happen.

    A percentage of white people will survive. I’m not even so sure I’m one of them. What is coming is going to be so extreme and insane, and unfortunately I live in a populated area. A friend of mine owns a hunting lodge in northern New England, so there is a bugout. Places like Maine/Vermont and New Hampshire will probably have to close their borders after they experience of the joys of “internal displaced persons.”

    I’m interested to see if my area will be able to build a lifeboat that can withstand raiding hordes and/or uniformed confiscators. I live in a town that could easily produce its own food. But we’re within a day or two march of tens of millions of non-producing welfare hordes. That’s literally a social tidal wave in the making. However, a well group of people who aren’t apologizing for their existence can certainly keep off the hordes, unless they are assisted by high tech uniformed confiscators.

    By the way, “Yup I’m a racist” t-shirts appeared at a July 4 event in Kentucky. This is big. This is a mass, public repudiation of anti-white Psy Ops!“yup-i’m-a-racist”-tee-shirts-make-an-appearance-at-the-lexington-july-4th-festival-547894

    “Yup, I’m a racist” Tee shirts make an appearance at the Lexington July 4th Festival.

    Posted on July 5, 2010 by Boshika Gupta

    Tee shirts proclaiming the line, “Yup, I’m a racist” are being sold. Where? The hot (not) spot is Lexington’s July 4th Festival. First reaction?It is unnerving how things like these catch up. A reporter went to see for himself equipped with a video camera. It didn’t take him long to spot what he was looking for. People in front of the Fayette County Courthouse in Lexington, Kentucky were at it completely as far as trying to use patriotism is concerned. Not positively either. They were apparently promoting themselves as defenders of the Constitution, openly adding fuel to fire and causing a stir as far as right-wrong paranoia goes.

    The reporter shot a video, trying to bring out the truth.The video clears things up, answers questions like why the tee shirts are being sold in the first place.

    Here is a video:

  36. Don’t write off the liberals!

    This is my favorite American Renaissance article – and presents the truth that White Nationalism can never win anything if it is confined to a conservative sandbox – and those of us who have worked in Conservative politics for 20-30 years understand that American Conservative politics is not corrupted and dominated by Jewish Neo Conservatives their plan is in short this:

    1) Invade the world for Israel – endless US wars against Iraq, Iran – Muslims, or nationalist minded Europeans like our kinsmen the Serbs

    2) Invite the world – virtually unlimited non White immigration, open borders, merging US with Mexico, the West Indies, in short merging White America, White Europe with the Non White third world.

    3) In hoc to the world to pay for #1, #2, it’s complicated but somehow folks at places like Goldman Sachs end up doing great, the rest of us, not so great.

    That’s the program and in no way is the program good for our White people.

    So consider other ways of thinking and in the case of the cursed Liberals vs Conservatives – think of other ways of:

    Dressing, hair styles, types of music you listen to, types of clothes, what causes you discuss.

    That’s what this Liberal vs Conservative thing comes down to in America, a question of fashion. Why fight it, just dress and talk differently when you are around Whites who are more liberal/Left than right. I do it all the time.

    It works well for me.

    Don’t write off the liberals – but, everyone has my permission to write off, kick the a#* of idiot, Libertarian know it alls.

  37. Conservatives have been bamboozled into supporting the alien agenda; therefore, I hate conservatives.

    Americans have been bamboozled into supporting the alien agenda; therefore, I hate America.

    Most of my extended family is still bamboozled into voting for neocon warmongers; therefore, I hate my family.

    Hell, even God himself changed his mind in the 70’s and decided to support the alien agenda. So I hate him, too.

    Well, that’s that. There’s nothing left to fight for. I reckon I can drop all this frustrating activist noise and go watch television.

  38. Jack Ryan: That AmRen article is from April 2000. The liberals are as dedicated to racial hypocrisy as ever. That’s not going to change, and I’m glad it won’t. I don’t want some anti-White bastard joining our side just in time to keep his Lexus and his McMansion. I have been cheated most of my adult life by these people and their Dark servants, and I’m not willing to forgive so easily. If they would be accepted, let them give all their property to White victims of multi-culturalism, and serve seven years of humble, useful, physical labor, perhaps some sort of environmental cleanup.
    Personal feeling aside, it is not prudent policy to let bygones be bygones. The ex-Commissars in the old USSR became the new capitalists, exploiting the people under a new banner. Anti-racists are moral defectives, and a healthy society will need to quarantine them for the rest of their days.

  39. Political activity involves taking people *from where they are* to where you want them to be.

    1. If you present as too far away *from where they are* they automatically reject what you say.

    2. The average person will only move *one step at a time* to where you want them to be.

    This is as true on the left as on the right.

    Therefore taking an explicit WN perspective to a TP type event is *entirely pointless* and in fact probably counter-productive as it will increase their “we’re not racist” obsession as a reaction to your presence.

    The way to act with people like the tea partiers is to present yourself as only *one step* more radical than them.

  40. What you’re saying, Wandrin, is basic teacher training, the actually useful stuff. Using the students’ prior knowledge, lead them to the next logical step. No long division until they’ve mastered the multiplication tables, no quadratics until they can do linear equations in their sleep. Fortunately, most White people are already against illegal immigration. The next step is showing them that there is no practical difference between legal and illegal Mexican immigration. And the way to do that is by asking questions, like, “If you’re so opposed to illegal immigration, why not legalize all these people? What’s wrong with an amnesty if it’s passed by Congress and signed into law by President Obama?” Most Whites know what’s wrong with it, getting them to put it into words is the tipping point.

  41. “What you’re saying, Wandrin, is basic teacher training, the actually useful stuff.”

    I hadn’t thought of it like that but yes you’re right.

  42. Discard and Wandrin,

    Very good conversation. Basic teacher training.

    Though you’ll notice that even grade school kids are not exactly eager learners. They learn it because they have to.

    I say to start by leading by example. You want people to come up to you and ask you for the answers — beg you for the answers.

    Leading questions are my favorite answers.

    “multiculturalism is crazy don’t you think?”

    “aren’t you sick of mandatory diversity all the time everywhere? Makes you just want to see nothing but White people for the rest of your life doesn’t it?”

    “The Republicans and Democrats are both liberals, and liberals have really mismanaged the country haven’t they? They’ve liberally blown the whole country’s fortune on welfare suckers and bankers.”

    When people are finally ready to do something, then I will teach “The lifestyle of Resistance.” This really just amounts to relocalizing the economy so people become economically resilient.

    If we are economically resilient, ZOG loses 90% of its power over us. The only thing they can do to economically resilient people is arrest and seize assets. If there is a critical mass of ERP’s (economically resilient people) it will just make the resistance that more determined, and an ERP resistance movement may attract the support of democratically elected politicians on the city and state level. Kind of like the rebellion in Arizona.

    I could see a state gov’t like New Hampshire or Vermont deploying sheriffs or state police to stop federal agents from doing property confiscation. But such state officials would have to know that they had broad support.

    ERP’s are going to be the last man standing in the economic contraction anyway. If you are an ERP, or better, part of an ERP network, you’ll be a foot soldier locked in battle for survival on this planet. If you’re not an ERP, you’ll just be a pawn.

  43. I think, Kievsky, that leading questions are not as effective as apparently open questions that really have only one answer. Rather than “Aren’t you sick of diversity?”, which suggests the answer, try “What are the benefits of diversity?” Make your student look for answers that aren’t there, let them struggle to explain the inexplicable. Then fill them in or correct their misunderstandings, or, best of all, congratulate them on their insight. It works for biology and math.
    And be kind to the learners, they’re ignorant, not evil. Save your viciousness for the anti-White twerp that you’re skewering for the benefit of onlookers.

  44. Although I would’ve preferred if you went into a little bit more detail, I still got the gist of what you meant. I agree with it. It might not be a popular idea, but it makes sense. Will definitely come back for more of this. Great work

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