Alabama
Here’s a brief explanation of why I lean toward “Bicausalism Type B”:
The short answer is Southern history. Jews have always lived in the South, but Southern Jews only played a marginal role in the downfall of our social institutions. The most obvious example would be the abolitionist movement, the War Between the States, and the destruction of the Confederacy.
Jews were never perceived as the major threat to slavery by antebellum Southerners. Try real hard to think of the Jews who were behind the abolitionist movement. Prominent Jews like Judah Benjamin of Louisiana and David Yulee of Florida resigned from the Senate when their states seceded from the Union. Jews fought for the Confederacy in the War Between the States.
During Reconstruction, Southern Jews joined the Ku Klux Klan. Montgomery was redeemed from Reconstruction by its first Jewish mayor, Mordecai Moses, who ran as “the true White man’s candidate.” Throughout the Jim Crow era, Southern Jews were part of the commercial elite in cities like Montgomery and Selma, and never seemed to have any problem accommodating themselves to segregation and white supremacy.
When the Civil Rights Movement erupted in the 1950s, Southern Jews were embarrassed by the sheer number of Northern Jews who came to the South, particularly in Selma and Montgomery, and many of them even joined the White Citizens’ Council. In the South, the Civil Rights Movement was never associated with the Jewish population. It was seen as the work of “outside agitators” – Jews, Quakers, Catholics, Northern Protestants, Unitarians – Jewish and Yankee radicals who arrived in the South from some point of departure in the Northeast or Midwest.
The history of the South is different from the history of the North. The threat to the South’s racial order has always come from the outside – through the existence of the Union – whereas in the North it has always come from the enemy within.
Basically, I don’t see Jews as the primary infection because, if it were not for the existence of the Union, I just don’t see Southern Jews overthrowing slavery, destroying the Confederacy, or rising up to overthrow the Jim Crow system.
Update: Here’s an excerpt from one of the most fascinating books about the Jewish Question in the South that I have ever read, Fight Against Fear: Southern Jews and Black Civil Rights:
“Opposition to Northern intrusion was also indicative of the fact that some southern Jews were intensely skeptical, if not openly scornful, of the need for immediate integration. Over half the interviewees included in sociologist Alfred Hero’s survey of southern Jewry argued that desegregation was proceeding “too fast,” admitting that they felt emotionally ill at ease about integration even when they accepted it as inevitable and in the long run desirable.” The ideological differences between northern and Southern Jews clearly expressed in a letter addressed to the American Jewish Committee by Montgomery, Alabama, Jewish Federation. “The White community in the South is generally opposed to desegregation,” read the letter. “The Jewish community in the South is part of the white community in the South.” …
Al Vorspan recalled one particularly heated discussion with Montgomery’s leaders that took place behind a locked door of a downtown hotel room. Having hoped he might convince his audience that the national Jewish organizations were taking the moral highground in supporting integration, Vorspan was horrified to hear himself and other New York Jews described as being “worse than Adolph Hitler” because of the way they “stirred up anti-Semitism.”
Here’s another revealing excerpt about the integration of Atlanta:
“For Charlie Leb, the Civil Rights Act was the beginning of the end. His intransigence had been a cause of considerable embarrassment to the Atlanta Jewish community. Marvin Goldstein shakes his head as he concedes that Leb was a “rabid” segregationist. “He shouldn’t have been,” asserts Goldstein. “He came from humble surroundings.”
Leb had always insisted that his business remained segregated only out of respect for the sensitivities of his white customers. This was nothing if not disingenuous. Situated on the same street as Leb’s was another restaurant called Harrod’s, which had desegregated before the sit-ins ever began. Almost every day, those who tried to eat at Harrod’s had to first pass through a Klan picket line. By contrast, the Klan posed no threat to Charlie Leb. As Charles Wittenstein explains, “He was getting a lot of admiration and attention and was the hero of the white race and that segregationist crowd, and he bought into it and continued to do so.” On January 27, 1965, a dinner was held in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr., who had recently been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Among those who organized and attended the dinner were many of Atlanta’s Jews. Outside on the street, Klansmen paraded in protest. Marching alongside them was Charlie Leb. …”
Here’s another excerpt from Mississippi:
“This might initially appear a rather contentious remark. We have already seen that Jews ordinarily joined the Citizens Council not out of any ideological conviction but as a means of deflecting attention from their true feelings on the race issue. Yet in Jackson itself one of the most articulate spokespersons in defense of segregation was indeed a Jew, Al Binder. Binder, an attorney, was closely associated with the power structure, not only in Jackson, but throughout the state. It was he who led the prosecution of the Freedom Riders in 1961. “Al’s one of us,” asserted the leader of Mississippi’s massive resistance movement. “He’s our Jew.”
More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinder%2C_K%C3%BCche%2C_Kirche
The origins [edit]
The phrase started to appear in writing in the early 1890s. “After Germany, where women apparently take no interest in public affairs, and seem to obey to the letter the young emperor’s injunction “Let women devote themselves to the three K’s, — die Küche, die Kirche, die Kinder” (kitchen, church, and children), the active interest and influence of English women on all great questions were refreshing.” wrote Marie C. Remick in A Woman’s Travel-notes on England in 1892.[1] The phrase then was used multiple times throughout the 1890s in liberal writing and speeches.
In August 1899 the influential British liberal Westminster Gazette elaborated on the story, mentioning, as well, the 4th “K”. A story titled “The American Lady and the Kaiser. The Empress’s four K’s”[2] describes an audience given by the Kaiser to two American suffragettes. After hearing them out, the Kaiser replies: “I agree with my wife. And do you know what she says? She says that women have no business interfering with anything outside the four K’s. The four K’s are – Kinder, Küche, Kirche, and Kleider: Children, Kitchen, Church, and Clothing”.[3]
Kaiser’s 4 K’s is encountered again in Charlotte Perkins Gilman’s 1911 book The man-made world.[4] The “3 K’s” variation has remained by far more popular and well known.
Third Reich [edit]
The phrase was never used by the officials of the Nazi Third Reich.[citation needed] In fact, Adolf Hitler felt scorn for Wilhelm II who, he believed, contributed to Germany’s greatest defeat. The English-speaking world, however, transferred its association of the “3 K’s” with Germany to the Nazi regime.[citation needed]
Feminine logic apparently consists of ad hominem attacks which are only thinly disguised shrewish attempts at emasculation, and arguing from fixed opinions that are never subject to change.
I submit Mary’s recent posts as evidence. What say you, weenie woman?
Deo Vindice
This lame classification of relative Jew-haters into absurd A-B-C categories is insane. The enemy in in our midst, corrupting our daughters. I say, shoot them all!
That’s the thing though, admittedly, the Yankees do have Stevens to their name. On the other hand, Jews have Kaganovich and Trotsky and Ehrenburg and Kamenev and Zinoviev and many others and a genocide and a gulag system under their belts. Has any group produced more planners, organizers, supporters of genocide/atrocities/war crimes per capita?
I’ve seen the Leni Riefenstahl films with your hero in one of his slobbering rants about KKK, so I really don’t care where it originated. I share Hitler’s contempt for Kaiser Bill, but I reserve even more for Hitler.
Hitler took one of the most brilliant, beautiful civilizations the world has ever known and not only destroyed it due to his military hubris, but also stigmatized a noble white people in the eyes of the civilized world with his misdeeds.
Now, stop channeling Savitri Devi and get back into the kitchen.
St. Maximillian Kolbe, ora pro nobis, especially these demented fools.
Deo Vindice
Hitler took one of the most brilliant, beautiful civilizations the world has ever known and not only destroyed it due to his military hubris, but also stigmatized a noble white people in the eyes of the civilized world with his misdeeds.
That’s complete nonsense. White people had been killing each other like savages and Germany was beat down . Hitler took control, gave them hope and started building them back up. And, the Jews and Marxists, not Hitler, stigmatized white people (in the eyes of ignorant indoctrinated morons).
Rudel has won the debate. This discussion is over.
Read Von Bernhardi….
The thesis of “Next War” is that Germans are best business men and best soldiers therefore the “fertile” South Germany must yield to the balt from the “sandy shore” of the March river…. Throw out all treaties….
You American German apologists are pig ignorant and Hunter can verify (as per Dr. Brandt) an embarassment to the real deal, simmering angsty “national widerstand” Germans.
I’ve seen the Leni Riefenstahl films with your hero in one of his slobbering rants about KKK, so I really don’t care where it originated .
Yes, you demonstrated your “not caring” so well when you stated earlier:
Apuleius says:
May 30, 2013 at 12:05 am
Kinder, Küche, Kirche!
Did I invent that phrase? No, Denise’s idol Adolf Hitler did.
Whateverrrrrrr………
Ps: remember who initiated this silly exchange kind Sir, and remember too it wasn’t myself nor Denise, but your newly arrived fanboy ‘Stephen Dalton’, lol…..’flattery goeth before the fall’ so sayeth someone, somewhere, long long ago 😉
Rudel said:
This lame classification of relative Jew-haters into absurd A-B-C categories is insane.
The technical name for it is “fiddling while Rome burns.”
“The technical name for it is “fiddling while Rome burns.””
Quite right.
Now, stop channeling Savitri Devi and get back into the kitchen.
It’s happening to the Muslims now too. The Islamist fools take great pride in their activist women. Remember the conservative dress of the abolitionists, suffragettes and prohibitionist women? This is an assertion of moral auperiority on the part of their women. The muslim woman is a whore dressed as a nun perfectly positioned to wreak even more havoc in Islamic society than she already does – and the muslim man is already wearing the horns.
I like Chechar’s classification. People who aren’t interested in the topic can always click another thread.
“This lame classification of relative Jew-haters into absurd A-B-C categories is insane. The enemy in in our midst, corrupting our daughters. I say, shoot them all!”
“The technical name for it is “fiddling while Rome burns.”
Well, boys, step up to the mark and start shooting. Nothing succeeds more than leadership by example. Show us what you got. You talk the talk, now walk the walk.
If someone is corrupting your daughter, maybe you should spend more time being a father and less time posing as a man of action.
Deo Vindice
I strongly suspect Denise wears the pants in her marriage. Her husband is most likely a very subservient man who handles the cooking and cleaning around the house while Denise rampages throughout the internet.
Nothing succeeds more than leadership by example
Breivik, but they’re crippled by not just atheism, but 2nd generation secularization. 1st gen atheists have te culture and ideals, read Felix Dzerzhinski’s diary.
Fleshlights and Forums are the future of White Nationalism. Your race can haz cheezburger.
I like Chechar’s classification. People who aren’t interested in the topic can always click another thread.
Chechar is a really interesting and gifted writer/thinker. His journey from the ‘counter-jihad’ to his present work makes for some compelling reading, whether one agrees with his conclusions regarding it, or not.
I found this thread to be one of the best ever tbh (apart from the occasional silly sideshows, my own included–apologies 🙂 )
Greg Johnson and Chechar don’t need fleshlights, they have eachother.
Stupid fags play acting at being cultured.
The only thing Hitler was great at was snatching defeat from the jaws of the victories the highly professional German generals won for him. Anyone with even a passing familiarity with the German military campaigns of WW2 knows this.
They also know that these honorable German officers, many of them Prussian aristocrats whose families had forged the unified German state in the first place, had nothing but contempt for this shabby, brutal charlatan.
Deo Vindice
. His journey from the ‘counter-jihad’ to his present work makes for some compelling reading,
Chechar pulled a Charles Johnson. Only worse.
I love you too, Hunter!
Thanks, folks!
I love every-one else, except Dalton the Jew.
Mary – COME TO THE THE SF CONFERENCE!!!! You meet the “most fun-est” people in the world!
Every-one else, too!
It’s a very very fun party!
Dalton the Jew – you are just sad. A whiney little Jewboy. I don’t hate you. You are too sad to hate. If you think that OcciJew’s tepid little remark os the “best On No he di-nt” put down of me – OMG – my 12 year old nephew, and his pals, are more sarcastic, vicious, brutal, and funny, as far as slating. I wouldn’t have even knwn that is WAS a put down, if you hadn’t gone all girly-drooling-on-yourself.
Wow.
Your Jew genes are so tepid…..it’s just sad.
You can try to come to the SF confab too – but they are vetting people. The Jew blood alarms will go off. So good luck….you may be weak enough to slither in under the door.
You need to look up the gruesome fued I had with Stonelifter, and his syncophants. Takes a White man to really trash a “harpy” like me! Woo hoo!
No-man – dare I write? Your posts are chokingly funny – really blackly witty, inthe best sense – but I fear your ripostes are wholly wasted on Dalton the Jew…..
Sean – are you “projecting”?
“I like Chechar’s classification. People who aren’t interested in the topic can always click another thread.”
No. A rebuttal is absolutely necessary. As far as I’m concerned my views on the subject are constantly in flux. Here is a positively grand tune with a Jewish composer and a Negress singer. Surely even you die-hard Confederates can’t deny that ‘dem darkies got rhythm!
I didn’t complain – I insulted the the posters! Woo HOO.
My idol is not Hitler. I admire him immensely.
My political idols are King Edward I, Elizabeth I, Vlad Tepes, and Frederico Fellini. And Frank Sinatra.
Chechar is brilliant, but un-even, as we generally are….
Good things Nazis did:
1.) Fought Soviets
2.) Volkswagen
3.) Brought Napoleon II’s remains to France in a most dignified manner
4.) Anti-smoking
5.) Aesthetics
6.) Military tactics and tech/ proto-Paperclip.
She’s a feisty lass, I’ll say that.
Being a native Louisianan, I always did like ’em with a little pepper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIfxBthfFkg
Deo Vindice
” less time posing as a man of action.”
Posing? Whenever have I done that. I spent my career as systems engineer and manager of systems engineer’s. I’d gladly shoot you on sight for insulting me however you dumb ass redneck grit.
7.) Pervitin
Denise,
Your silence had me wondering if your husband had put the brank on you.
Oh well, another missed opportunity…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scold's_bridle
Deo Vindice
“And Frank Sinatra.”
Yes indeed.
“I’d gladly shoot you on sight for insulting me however you dumb ass redneck grit.”
In that case, I feel as safe as in mother’s womb, since we all know you couldn’t hit the back side of a barn, tough guy. Btw, that little hole in front is where the bullet comes out. Be careful and don’t shoot yourself.
Deo Vindice
Some guys like their girls insane.
http://youtu.be/Bag1gUxuU0g
“In that case, I feel as safe as in mother’s womb, since we all know you couldn’t hit the back side of a barn, tough guy. Btw, that little hole in front is where the bullet comes out. Be careful and don’t shoot yourself.”
Poofter. Just how many people have you actually shot?
PS – deer don’t count.
Apelius – I have lots of things to do besides this. My hubby has his own business – he’s very BUSY, too.
Rudel – music break for you:
Apelius! I LOVE Tom Jones!
This is for No Man:
@ Denise.
http://imgur.com/TKhVkeU.jpg
Am I white?
Apelius – nothing could “put the brank” on me, and anything the TRIED would find the branks shoved up it’s anal tract in 5 seconds flat.
Why are you turning into such a little bitch? Are you on your period?
No Man – that pic is too fuzzy. The angles are bad. The gent in the pic look like a White Man – but so does Paul Newman.
That Lana Del Rey viddy is kinda skeery….
http://imgur.com/l0RXLaA.jpg
Is this a white man or a sandnigger?
Mona Sahlin’s a Jew. I am going to write and demand a DNA test.
That is a White man, wearing an interesting chapeau…
I must go an do the dishes, and finish the laundry now…
hahaha Denise, yer a blast. I’d go to the SF conference just to hang out with you for the *craic*, as we say 😉 Pity I can’t make it this year, but I must make sure to plan for the next one.
@ No-man: yer a ginger! Gorgeous!
Only my beard Thank.God.
“I LOVE Tom Jones!”
I know Denise. Enjoy.
“Poofter. Just how many people have you actually shot?”
You might want to get your gaydar re-calibrated. It ain’t working right.
Your shooting skills remind me of an old Cajun story…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb_xlciQZP8
Deo Vindice
“Your shooting skills remind me of an old Cajun story…”
Nice try you pussy.