Alabama
Here’s a brief explanation of why I lean toward “Bicausalism Type B”:
The short answer is Southern history. Jews have always lived in the South, but Southern Jews only played a marginal role in the downfall of our social institutions. The most obvious example would be the abolitionist movement, the War Between the States, and the destruction of the Confederacy.
Jews were never perceived as the major threat to slavery by antebellum Southerners. Try real hard to think of the Jews who were behind the abolitionist movement. Prominent Jews like Judah Benjamin of Louisiana and David Yulee of Florida resigned from the Senate when their states seceded from the Union. Jews fought for the Confederacy in the War Between the States.
During Reconstruction, Southern Jews joined the Ku Klux Klan. Montgomery was redeemed from Reconstruction by its first Jewish mayor, Mordecai Moses, who ran as “the true White man’s candidate.” Throughout the Jim Crow era, Southern Jews were part of the commercial elite in cities like Montgomery and Selma, and never seemed to have any problem accommodating themselves to segregation and white supremacy.
When the Civil Rights Movement erupted in the 1950s, Southern Jews were embarrassed by the sheer number of Northern Jews who came to the South, particularly in Selma and Montgomery, and many of them even joined the White Citizens’ Council. In the South, the Civil Rights Movement was never associated with the Jewish population. It was seen as the work of “outside agitators” – Jews, Quakers, Catholics, Northern Protestants, Unitarians – Jewish and Yankee radicals who arrived in the South from some point of departure in the Northeast or Midwest.
The history of the South is different from the history of the North. The threat to the South’s racial order has always come from the outside – through the existence of the Union – whereas in the North it has always come from the enemy within.
Basically, I don’t see Jews as the primary infection because, if it were not for the existence of the Union, I just don’t see Southern Jews overthrowing slavery, destroying the Confederacy, or rising up to overthrow the Jim Crow system.
Update: Here’s an excerpt from one of the most fascinating books about the Jewish Question in the South that I have ever read, Fight Against Fear: Southern Jews and Black Civil Rights:
“Opposition to Northern intrusion was also indicative of the fact that some southern Jews were intensely skeptical, if not openly scornful, of the need for immediate integration. Over half the interviewees included in sociologist Alfred Hero’s survey of southern Jewry argued that desegregation was proceeding “too fast,” admitting that they felt emotionally ill at ease about integration even when they accepted it as inevitable and in the long run desirable.” The ideological differences between northern and Southern Jews clearly expressed in a letter addressed to the American Jewish Committee by Montgomery, Alabama, Jewish Federation. “The White community in the South is generally opposed to desegregation,” read the letter. “The Jewish community in the South is part of the white community in the South.” …
Al Vorspan recalled one particularly heated discussion with Montgomery’s leaders that took place behind a locked door of a downtown hotel room. Having hoped he might convince his audience that the national Jewish organizations were taking the moral highground in supporting integration, Vorspan was horrified to hear himself and other New York Jews described as being “worse than Adolph Hitler” because of the way they “stirred up anti-Semitism.”
Here’s another revealing excerpt about the integration of Atlanta:
“For Charlie Leb, the Civil Rights Act was the beginning of the end. His intransigence had been a cause of considerable embarrassment to the Atlanta Jewish community. Marvin Goldstein shakes his head as he concedes that Leb was a “rabid” segregationist. “He shouldn’t have been,” asserts Goldstein. “He came from humble surroundings.”
Leb had always insisted that his business remained segregated only out of respect for the sensitivities of his white customers. This was nothing if not disingenuous. Situated on the same street as Leb’s was another restaurant called Harrod’s, which had desegregated before the sit-ins ever began. Almost every day, those who tried to eat at Harrod’s had to first pass through a Klan picket line. By contrast, the Klan posed no threat to Charlie Leb. As Charles Wittenstein explains, “He was getting a lot of admiration and attention and was the hero of the white race and that segregationist crowd, and he bought into it and continued to do so.” On January 27, 1965, a dinner was held in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr., who had recently been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Among those who organized and attended the dinner were many of Atlanta’s Jews. Outside on the street, Klansmen paraded in protest. Marching alongside them was Charlie Leb. …”
Here’s another excerpt from Mississippi:
“This might initially appear a rather contentious remark. We have already seen that Jews ordinarily joined the Citizens Council not out of any ideological conviction but as a means of deflecting attention from their true feelings on the race issue. Yet in Jackson itself one of the most articulate spokespersons in defense of segregation was indeed a Jew, Al Binder. Binder, an attorney, was closely associated with the power structure, not only in Jackson, but throughout the state. It was he who led the prosecution of the Freedom Riders in 1961. “Al’s one of us,” asserted the leader of Mississippi’s massive resistance movement. “He’s our Jew.”
Merkel the Merciless now wields the kind of power–real and lasting economic and political power from Gibraltar to the Arctic Circle–that Bismarck, Kaiser Wilhelm and Hitler could only dream about.
Trousers. The closest Merkel will every get to true power of men that drive their enemies before them and reshape the world with iron is some swarthy Greek doodling a Hitlerstache on her ugly mug.
I take it “Hunter Wallace” – or whatever your real name is – that you have Jewish ancestry?
The nationalist Kraut is the “howling man”.
http://youtu.be/-k4WJGtGnBw
You must believe.
I wonder (as I see that there are already over 150 comments) HW, did you also take into consideration that the Jews who lived in antebellum America were, by and large, Sephardim?
And that the AshkeNAZIS didn’t start to arrive in large numbers until roughly after the WBTS, and it is THAT large contingent of Jews that are behind most of the ‘blame game’ when Jews are mentioned- in that, it was they who started the NAACP, the ADL, soldified their animus as other in the wake of the Leo Frank case, forward?
Just a suggestion. Sorry if others have already said the same thing.
Extremely suicidal. Have you read “Portugal and the one-drop rule”?
During the Inquisition period, which lasted 300 years, to prove that even when persecuting Jews whites have behaved ethno-suicidally.
“Calvin/Lutheranism/proto-puritanism ushered in. The opening scene of The African Queen is the definitive audiovisual expression of the protestant experience with Negroes. The protestant seeks to pacify or liberate the Negro. His theology lacks the hierarchy and authority to accomplish either of the similarly crummy goals.”
No-man, this is a highly simplistic approach to the whole thing. Rather, it is the philosophical presuppositions of egalitarianism that are derived from the Papal, scholastic, filioquist paradigm of a 1000 years earlier, that first thought, ‘ALL peoples are now under my sway,’ as the pope did, after the 1054 Schism. From there, it was but a step to say, ‘If the Negro is equal to the White man, then the commoner is equal to the king- and Luther and Knox just were ‘fully self-actualized filioquist Augustinians,’ that’s about all….
From there, increasing humanist sentiment bled what little divine blood that was left of the West’s Corpus Christi, and now we just have a husk, with Allahuakbarbarians thinking they are the equal of the Queen’s Guards.
Misericordie, Domine.
Don’t you remember that video by Dave Duke that started depicting an idyllic white society over a pyramid and then, with an abrupt change in both visuals and music, a big spider with a Star of David climbing at the top of the pyramid? It has been one of Duke’s videos that has received most hits. It was even censored in YouTube for some time, and its message is clear: everything was running fine and smoothly until the tribe arrived to a blameless, idyllic white society.
As to Tanstaafl, here, in late Summer 2007, he quotes himself:
In other words, unlike bicausalists type-A, like Linder and Johnson, who at least partially blame Christianity, for Tan our parents’ religion is innocent. It’s the Jews what eroded Christianity; not Christian ideals such as universalism what inspired the Enlightenment in the first place. I call that “monocausalism”.
Type A and B in pictures:
Picture 1:
http://tinyurl.com/q4cv3e6
Picture 2:
http://tinyurl.com/oe7aqd2
Type Bs find picture one far more disturbing, and a much larger threat, than picture 2. Picture 2 is a known, timeless entity, easily handled. Picture 1 is a clusterfuck so colossal it hurts the mind. If doing triage, a Type B would first attend to picture 1, then move on to picture 2.
Friar John.
‘ALL peoples are now under my sway,’ as the pope did, after the 1054 Schism. From there, it was but a step to say, ‘If the Negro is equal to the White man, then the commoner is equal to the king
Can you please expand on this? It seems that by rejecting the (royal) authority of the Pope you’re taking that step, along with the protestants. Would not a God-fearing commoner defer humbly to the Church instead of reject the hierarchy because it he, from his lowly position, somehow perceives a germ of egalitarianism?
now we just have a husk, with Allahuakbarbarians thinking they are the equal of the Queen’s Guards.
They’ve thought themselves superior to every non-muslim since Slow-Mo told them so. Not a new thing.
Chechar,
My impression is he is dealing with a compact time frame there, the contemporary PC era. Jews for the most part did create contemporary PC “cultural Marxism.” What strikes me about that passage is that apparently Tanstaafl was unaware of the Jewish angle as recently as 2007. In contrast, anyone who came to anti-liberalism through WNism has known about Jews … since whenever they found WNism. Rockwell and Pierce, who drew for Hitler, understood the Jewish role in the 60s. White Nationalists ahead of the curve again, and vindicated again versus dithering and confused conservatives. Monocausalism is definitely false. I agree. The issue is how best to contextualize JQ, what proportion of attention does it deserve versus the other issues? In this, I think we should follow Hitler and Pierce. They have been vindicated over and over and over again. Jewish issues need to be high in the priority list.
If the problem was White people the media wouldn’t need to lie.
no man/tamer of savages/kike bastard
“That Germany even exists today is a small tragedy. It must perish.”
Germany remains what it has always been at least since the time of Chalemagne the cornerstone and leader nation of the white race. Someone like yourself who resides on the outskirts of Western Civilization may have a hard time understanding that. The British Empire collapsed after World War 2 and now it’s time the other Anglo-Saxon monstrosity the USA goes in the ash heap of history. You may like to go on about “Yankees” all day long but you are all part of the same Anglo Saxon culture that has brought so much ruin on the white world. Whether it’s the English, Yankees or you Johnny Rebs you are all the same philo-semitic anti-European cheap labor exploiting wankers. When Germany allied with Russia and France restore the White race to it’s place in the sun we will allow your redeckistan to be independent where you can grind your teeth on the fact the the German 48ers who fought in the Civil War beat your great grand pappy’s asses cause they were superior soldiers and men.
Regarding a post currently in moderation:
“a Type B would first attend to picture 1 (50 lashes and a book report on the MacDonald trilogy), then move on to picture 2 (content controls on Hollywood).”
Posting pictures and then talking about “attending to” people in this context may have conveyed more than I intended.
Of course, and I love both of them. But talking of Hitler see what Hunter said above: “What basically happened is that Yankees got all excited about their pet abstractions during WW2 and the war against Hitler caused a remarkable transformation of racial attitudes up there”.
In my own words, blame whites’ ethno-suicidal tendencies for the fact that the JP has not been solved to date. What the Allied forces did to Germany has been the greatest sin of whites versus whites in all history! The 20th century should have been the German century, not the Jewish century. I blame the Body-snatched Anglo-Saxons for the current mess in the West more than I blame Jews.
If White people were the problem the media wouldn’t need to lie.
. . . you Johnny Rebs . . ..
No-man is a New York Yankee. Do not lump him in with us.
Your hatred of Anglo-Saxons is as stupid as No-man’s hatred of the Germans. You two deserve each other.
If white people were not a part of the problem they wouldn’t eat the lies up like pudding. They would see to themselves and their children that they took better care of their mental hygiene.
“test says:
May 27, 2013 at 2:52 am
If White people were the problem the media wouldn’t need to lie.”
Thank you, Test. It’s really very simple. All of these bizaare “theories” are simply a game, that would-be intellectuals use to waste time. It’s a way to ignore real world events.
Indeed. If White people were the problem the media wouldn’t need to lie.
Jews, and other Races, NEVER blame themselves. EVER
Self Blame is for LOSERS.
Occigent
If White people were the problem the media wouldn’t need to lie.
There are tribes of white people who get played against each other in ways similar to how Europeans played Indian tribes one off against the other. It is an age old story. The problem with Jews is they act as an elite yet they hate us, which is why they are trying to replace us. God save the people who have an elite that hate them.
prussiancroat
Germany is better divided than whole. Worship of the centralized state, compulsory public education/indoctrination, and militarism are only three of the dysgenic contributions Germans have made. You and we were much better off when you were Prussians, Saxons, Bavarians, etc.
“The British Empire collapsed after World War 2…”
Which is better than the so-called German Empire, which barely got to its “place in the sun” before being dismantled.
“When Germany allied with Russia and France restore the White race to it’s place in the sun we will allow your redeckistan to be independent where you can grind your teeth on the fact the the German 48ers who fought in the Civil War beat your great grand pappy’s asses cause they were superior soldiers and men.”
Only they didn’t. The German 48ers were very well known in the Union Army as the “unlucky” 11th Corps, who couldn’t fight their way out of a paper bag and whose collapse on the first day of Gettysburg compromised the entire Union line. They could skedaddle better than any of the other Federal troops.
Why were the 48ers fighting to free colored savages in the first place? It seems German 48ers were subversive radicals, not unlike the even more subversive East European Jews who came later. Why is it that these Jews all spoke Yiddish, a dialect of German? What is the German connection with them?
German militarism is responsible for having bled the nations of Europe white twice in the last century. When slaughtering other whites is your only claim to fame, and even then you wind up getting your ass kicked both times, seems like a pretty sad legacy. Which is probably why the French and Russians will want nothing to do with Germans.
The French and the Russians may do something to restore whites to their proper place in the world, but Germans have shown that they are dangerously incompetent when it comes to acting in the best interests of whites.
Deo Vindice
“(B)y rejecting the (royal) authority of the Pope you’re taking that step, along with the protestants. Would not a God-fearing commoner defer humbly to the Church instead of reject the hierarchy…?”
But the heretical Papacy is NOT the true Church and has NO authority over Christians, and there is NO such thing as a white “commoner.”
Chechar- thanks for posting those two Portugal articles and the more recent DNA stuff as well. I haven’t read that in at least a decade.
“‘ALL peoples are now under my sway,’ as the pope did, after the 1054 Schism. From there, it was but a step to say, ‘If the Negro is equal to the White man, then the commoner is equal to the king
Can you please expand on this? It seems that by rejecting the (royal) authority of the Pope you’re taking that step, along with the protestants. Would not a God-fearing commoner defer humbly to the Church instead of reject the hierarchy because it he, from his lowly position, somehow perceives a germ of egalitarianism?”
No-man, I don’t like to engage in long theological tomes here. HW has said that we need to keep to the topic. But, on my own website, there are a number of articles on the Schism, filioquism, and why Rome is no true Church, and therefore, all her philosophical actions that informed Europe from 1100 on, are not ‘christian’ acts, but a false philosophy masquerading as Xtianity.
Proper rule and reign by a Monarch is both biblical and patristic- vide the Czars of Russia. Democracy is a heresy, and there’s a good article on even denying representative monarchy a la England over at the H Belloc blog.
http://thehilairebellocblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-house-of-commons-and-monarchy.html
“What the Allied forces did to Germany has been the greatest sin of whites versus whites in all history! The 20th century should have been the German century, not the Jewish century. I blame the Body-snatched Anglo-Saxons for the current mess in the West more than I blame Jews.”
You’re as full of shit as a Christmas goose. German militarism has more to do with the decline of whites in the twentieth century than any other cause, including Jews.
All you wannabe brownshirts should move to Germany and try to start some more shit there. Maybe you could kill some more white people in your anti-white quest to become the masters of Europe in order to overcome your inferiority complex.
The Jewish hegemony that the white west suffers from today is directly linked to the murderous German idiocy displayed in the twentieth century. Always playing the victim and blaming others for your mistakes.
Deo Vindice
Too bad the Germans didn’t win. Now we have a Europe falling to Islam.
“If White people were the problem the media wouldn’t need to lie.”
That’s a very good point, test. We need to be kept in a constant stream of lies to be controlled.
“Jews, and other Races, NEVER blame themselves. EVER.”
There’s a difference between blaming ourselves and simply taking account for the flaws in our nature.
What about the Constitution? A document based on protecting each other from the flaws in our own nature.
Smart people recognize their flaws and are candid about them. We love power, we are gullible, among other things. Only a retard goes through life blameless.
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=John+McCain+wailing+wall&client=safari&sa=X&rls=en&biw=1377&bih=697&tbm=isch&tbnid=GN8vUfObYYakkM:&imgrefurl=http://www.texemarrs.com/052008/john_mccain_puppet_warmonger.htm&docid=mF1RujjeTzK_CM&imgurl=http://www.texemarrs.com/images/leiberman_mccain_wailing_wall.jpg&w=450&h=300&ei=OdeiUbHZOKvjigKxmoDADw&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:0,s:0,i:83&iact=rc&dur=688&page=1&tbnh=182&tbnw=275&start=0&ndsp=17&tx=174&ty=126
Blameless? Seriously? Work with me here. No blame at all?
Music break, especially for you, Apuleius: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDdZkQ5Mycw
“Goodbye now, farewell my love,
Don’t cry your eyes red,
Carry this grief with patience,
My body and my life,
I owe to God first.
Farewell now, my beloved father,
Mother, take the goodbye kiss;
To fight for the Fatherland
Is my duty – second after God –
And so I must leave you (…)
Mightily through my heart and mind,
Justice and freedom, the third duty,
That forces me away from you
To face death and battles (…)
O Germany, I must march” etc.
When Catholic Spain, Italy, Poland, Austria and Orthodox Russia were busy fighting the Muslims over the centuries, what were the Protestant Germans doing? Not lifting a finger, that’s what.
Europe is falling to the Muslims now because Germany bled Europe white over two horrendously bloody wars. Germans have always been best at identifying other whites as their enemies.
Deo Vindice
Are we like POWs that have been in a giant POW camp for 500 years? Parents, grandparents, great grandparents, etc., no responsibility for what they were taught, believed, created, destroyed? Because they had no control?
In that it recognizes white frailty, I guess the Constitution is a blaming document.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5n4N4apae0&list=PLRys63pgkY3OS0tBKM_CX8WdJUuODtUIK&index=3
“Wake up, wake up, Germany!
You have slept enough! (…)
Consider what God has given to you (…)
God made you, the German people, honored
With his word of grace
Great help and strength is given to you
In the misery and distress of many enemies
Great hardship and hatred
Bring it on, we have no fear!
We will destroy you
We hold onto, and trust
Piously in God (…)
Let me acquire the power
In heart and in hand
To live and die
For the holy Fatherland!”
Prussiancroat has it dead to rights. No-man/Tamer of Savages is indeed a kike bastard. And this pathetic, over-compensated “Christian” masquerade that he’s putting on, is more transparent than Nathaniel Kapner’s little scam.
I may be an atheist, but I come from a secular Catholic family, and I know a fucking Crypto when I smell it. No-man/Tamer of Savages is a kike right down to his bone marrow.
“Germans have always been best at identifying other whites as their enemies.”
OD-ists (or Golden Circle -ists) are best at identifying other whites (those living north of the Line) as the enemy.
One final selection, the best so far: “The German Fatherland must be…THE WHOLE of Germany!” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAslBqrbof4&list=PLRys63pgkY3OS0tBKM_CX8WdJUuODtUIK
Apuleius
“The Jewish hegemony that the white west suffers from today is directly linked to the murderous German idiocy displayed in the twentieth century. Always playing the victim and blaming others for your mistakes.”
The German has too much honor almost to a fault and he doesn’t complain. The Slavic part of me has the big mouth and wants payback from the Judeo-Saxon establishment
The Anglo Saxon both in Britain and in the US bled the white race dry. The UK declared war on Germany in 1939 and America financed it, one of the few happy ending in WW 2 was the British Empire imploded and Winnie Churchill lived to see it.
Southerners while racially White are no longer European thats why it’s so easy for them to wage war on their fellow Whites, lording it over millions of darkies for the last several centuries will do that to you. The yearning for the Golden Circle shows the you don’t want to live with your own kind but want to import millions of Cuban niggers into the Southland, comparing the South to Brazil used to be considered an insult now you brag about it. Southerners with a few honorable exceptions will be AWOL in the fight to save the White race and European civilization.
Did you at least read the book review I linked, which prompted me to say what I said?
No: The J hegemony that the West suffers is linked to the murderous Anglo-Saxon idiocy displayed in the twentieth century.
You are forgetting that the Magyars, after taking possession of Hungary, became the scourge of many parts of Europe and Constantinople. In 954 a raiding party of close to 100,000 Magyars swept through Bavaria and into Franconia, crossed the Rhine at Worms, and devastated northeastern France. They raped, burned, and butchered their way through Rheims and Chalons into Burgundy, then crossed the Alps into Italy to pillage Lombardy.
It was the Germans who did the rescue.
Also, an army of Germans, Poles, and Teutonic Knights, under the command of Duke Henry II of Silesia, attempted to halt the Mongols at Liegnitz, Prussia. In a battle fought there on April 9, 1241, the Europeans were decisively defeated. Had they won they would be remembered like Charles Martel. What counts here is intention: saving white Europe from Mongol mongrelization.
Occigent,
Apparently, some here have never heard the old adage, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.”
Chris using his new Jewfinding abilities:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euG4EOlO6Ds
Deo Vindice
Prussiancroat has the correct view.
A Roman pope boasted that the wonders of his capital were built on the sin taxes of the Germans. The German nation at the centre of Europe, the bulwark of the European economy, is still divided, robbed and hated by many enemies.
Chris313, why do believe that Nathaniel Kapner the converted Jew http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcuLB16kiDI is a scammer?
I’m always looking for ways to cut through the junk, but I can’t figure out how this works. I think I’m supposed to think like a POW. That seems to add to the net weight of the junk though, not subtract. The weight of the thought of having been imprisoned for generations is heavier than the weight I place on the blame. I will continue working on it though.
Prussiancroat continues to hit it out of the park. Deepest bows to you, my friend.
@Mosin
There’s no such thing as a converted Jew.
Re: Supposed German indifference to invasions of Europe by pagans:
Chechar wrote: “It was the Germans who did the rescue.”
My Frankish-German family ancestors were said to have fought so well in the campaign against the Muslims around Tours that they were given land on the border (in what is now the extreme southwest corner of Germany) to hold in perpetuity.
Who knows whether Kapner is sincere? I do not rule out the possibility of conversion. Saul of Tarsus, once the Pharisee of Pharisees, became the Christian apostle Paul, source of nearly half of the New Testament. Jesus himself was a son of David, according to the flesh. Talmudism is Anti-Christian, but Jewish genetics is not necessarily so.
Talmudism is a manifestation of Jewish genetics.
It’s simple: “If white people had a country of their own, this website wouldn’t exist.”
“Having hoped he might convince his audience that the national Jewish organizations were taking the moral highground in supporting integration”
How is integration the moral high ground? If it was about raising the standards of living for blacks to be on exact par with whites, then why force this belief system on others and expect them to tolerate it and fund it as well? And, to people that have far more experience with blacks then they did themselves? Perhaps Jews could have welcomed them into their own communities, hired them as their own help, fed them at their own restaurants, and funded the black welfare system totally out of their own pockets. How the f**k is pushing the black undertow on the white population of the United States the moral high ground, especially when Jews had a large hand in the Western slave trade?
(The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews – NOI Research Group)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWlQykpa0qA
They pull the same crap of moral high ground when pushing homosexuality, Third World immigration, and just about every other decay-making belief they hold. How can they look at the United States in its present condition and see success? I guess they look at the United States through the same mirror as they look at themselves. A mirror that does not reflect reality…
They’ve been nation wreckers for 5,000 years, so what’s changed? And, no one has ever been able to stop them. So, who is really to blame for our Jewish problem?
@Rorke’s Drift Loser
No, this is what’s simple: “If Harold Covington hadn’t run away like a pussy bitch from a summary judgement in North Carolina, that desperate, pitiful, Northwest Front wouldn’t exist.”
How was fighting to free the slaves pro-white, again?
Kampf Mit Sigel!
(who happened to be Jewish)
Hunter,
The EDL are going to do a mass rally today ay 11:00-11:45 GMT.
Just thought you ought be aware of it. I’d expect about 10,000 people. Perhaps more.