I’m currently in Nauvoo, Illinois, the sacred Mississippi River town of the LDS – Latter Day Saints, the Mormons. There is lots of history, pageants, wholesome musical shows, and lots and lots of White people, easily 1,000 here.
Everything is very, very White – Nauvoo is 97.7% White. Even the opposition is White, some evangelical fundamentalist and his daughters are protesting, screaming that “Joseph Smith wasn’t Jesus.” I introduced myself as someone from the Southside of Chicago and maybe not as polite as most of the audience of the pageant and proceeded to give him the middle finger straight in his face.
Anyway, I am having a grand time in Nauvoo, Illinois – a small town of about 1,000 residents, not all of whom are LDS. I had a nice visit to a local winery, shared some spirits with a mom, with tats and two children 13, 11 and a fun, youthful grandmother from nearby Quincy, Illinois. Good White Germanic stock.
I’m resting up and having lots of brews (Nauvoo isn’t a dry town). I’m ready for more singing, wholesome LDS whiteness. The Mississippi River Valley is stunningly beautiful.
For those of OD readers thinking of checking out something very, very White, you should try hanging out with White LDS Mormons. I suspect most of us posting on Occidental Dissent are looking to find a group of … nice White folks.
Sure, we have strong beliefs on political and social issues, but a main reason we are involved with White Nationalism is that we just want to belong to some group of nice White people – to be in a place where no one is yelling at us, lecturing us, insulting us, threatening us, trying to reeducate us, or incite our children to hate us. Let’s face it, when we turn on the television, go to a Hollywood movie or hang out with most liberal Democrat groups, we don’t feel like we are among friends. We feel that we are in hostile places, with hostile people that hate us.
So where do we go, those of us who are left behind in places like Chicago, to find a community of “nice people” that like us, which are “like us”? The Mormon Church.
Though I knew something about the Mormon theology and the turbulent history of the Mormons (their persecution and migration from the Midwest to Utah), what attracted me to the Mormon Church was that I noticed there sure are a lot of good looking, Mormon White folks!
And it is true that the Mormon Church, or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints/LDS (as they prefer to be called now) is a very White church. It has a White racial history: until the late 1970s, blacks were not allowed to hold the LDS Priesthood and the Book of Mormon contains lots of passages that would be considered very “racist” by modern PC standards.
Another reason I decided to check out the Mormon/LDS church was that I came into contact with some bright, enthusiastic, well scrubbed, nicely dressed, White Mormon missionaries, that were actually walking the streets of the inner city, university community I was living in at the time.
Sure, I wanted to check out the LDS church of “Donny and Marie Osmond,” the church of BYU University – I always noticed those very White BYU football and basketball teams giving the black (criminally inclined) football and basketball college powers a good contest. When I was a public school teacher in Brooklyn, some of my black students called me “BYU” because I looked like the White BYU basketball players they saw on television.
After 10 years of association with Mormons and the Mormon/LDS Church I will share these observations:
1.) There are lot of really nice, good looking White folks in the LDS church, particularly in Southern California and the Mountain West.
2.) Mormons are really good at getting young White couples to get married early (in college) and to have large families, with really beautiful White children.
3.) Mormons have lots of very good practices and rules. They are very good at organizing their members and giving them things to do.
4.) You see very little leftwing, anti-White politics inside any LDS church. In fact, the LDS church prohibits political campaigning, and its really nice to have no preachy leftists lecturing the congregation about the supposed sins of “racism” or the latest PC liberal cause.
5.) White Mormons are really good at sports and provide lots of opportunities for basketball, tennis, ultimate frisbee activities.
6.) There is little or no LDS White women doing male bashing. Mormon women have lots of things to do in Church, but White men run the ceremonies and have the authority and Mormon women/LDS women seem very happy to have White husbands, children and accept their traditional female roles.
All those things I listed are very good. But it’s not perfect from a WN perspective.
The worst news is that the Mormons/LDS church has embraced the Christian mission to share the Mormon Gospel…..with the entire world!
The part in the New Testament about the Christian mission to “spread the gospel to all nations,” this type of thinking and acting really gets our White race and Western culture into lots of trouble, and the Mormons are now doing just that, spreading their Mormon gospel to all nations (the Muslims don’t let them into their countries), but there are Jewish converts who I spot right away, and these Jewish conversos seem to do what they do.
Sen. Harry Reid, the LDS Senate Majority Leader has a Jewish converso wife, and I am sure that she is one of the reasons that he does so much terrible stuff like pushing through the ADL’s Federal Hate Crime Bill, or work for amnesty for millions of hostile, non-White illegal aliens, etc.
Sadly, most Mormons in the world are no longer White. Hispanics really go for joining the LDS church in Central and Latin America. Many see joining the LDS church as their ticket to joining the nice, healthy, prosperous White American world. Lots of Pacific Islanders have joined the Mormon Church. Mormons also tend to be very defensive about their controversial “racist” past and enjoy being accepted by “mainstream” (read: our liberal, Jewish, race-mixing) American society.
Also, Mormons tend to not be very intellectual – they focus on having honest, “family values” – and they try to be nice and get along with everyone. So, don’t expect many White Mormons to get involved in contentious arguments with Jews over World War II, Communism, etc. The current top Mormon – Prophet Monson, seems like a total, boring stiff.
Mormons seem to have no clue about the Jews. They have no history of ever being in conflict with Jews like White Catholics from the old country in Europe. And since only terrible, living in close proximity with the Black Undertow can turn a generally “nice” White person into a “racist” against blacks, most White Mormons are not going to want to fight, or be able to handle very hostile black criminals.
LDS Mormons have never lived in the rough, racially mixed Northern cities or the American South where there are lots of criminal, hostile Blacks. The Book of Mormon’s plates were supposedly found in Upstate New York. The new church and their converts moved to the rural Midwest – to Illinois, Ohio and Missouri – and then the church was brutally persecuted there and the Saints moved across the Plains to Utah. All these places were very, very White, and for the most part, they are still very White. Mormons tend to prosper and grow in White places.
So, the downside is that White Mormons are generally doing pretty well these days, but they don’t like to rock the boat – they think of themselves as patriotic Americans like Mitt Romney, and while they were once brutally persecuted by “America,” the Mormons once had their own virtually separate all White Mormon nation in the Great Salt Lake Basin. Now the Mormon church has gone “mainstream” and the Church is desperately trying to win the acceptance and approval of the “mainstream” Christian churches like the Southern Baptists, who hate the Mormon church, and accuse it of being a non-Christian cult, over stupid theological squabbles.
I think that most of us involved in White Nationalism would like for the Mormons or any White group to start thinking and working to separate themselves from our corrupt, racially-mized, Jew-dominated America, and to stop being “patriotic” and loyal to America, but “mainstream” Mormons aren’t going to do that now, as things stand today.
On the other hand, Mormons haven’t give up all of their independent old ways – they teach very practical ways of self reliance, food storage, have their own social welfare system that provides food and jobs for their members in need. I have had some success making friends and contacts in the Mormon church, but I don’t do open, pro-White racial activism because I know this would be a bad idea.
Instead, I simply am honest and give positive feedback to all the really good things White Mormons are doing. When something comes up like the huge propaganda campaign to save all the poor, suffering black victims of the 2010 Haitian Earthquake, I do share some words of caution, and tell all the nice, innocent LDS folks that they should learn more about the historical realities of places like Haiti and not try to bring back every poor, diseased black person from the Third World to America. I also present the idea that America has lots of people here now that need help, and Mormons should consider sending their missionaries to places like rural Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Michigan’s Upper Peninsula and learn to be as good at hockey as the Mormons are at basketball and football.
The Atlantic listed Mormons as the most “conservative” religious community in the US. So, it’s generally okay to work for conservative political issues, campaigns that work well for White Nationalists. Just as conservative politics from the Nixon and Reagan years tended to be White, much more favorable to our people than the Democrats and their liberal/minority/leftist anti-White coaition..
So, there is lots of good news for racially conscious Whites in the Mormon church as it stands now in 2013 – the best being that White Mormons have the highest birth rate of any White group in America, with the possible exception of the Amish.
The main danger with the Mormon church is the problem that all successful White Christian churches have: they want to go out and help, SAVE, and spread the Gospel to every single non-White person in the world, and convert them to Christianity. This means suicide for our race, if they actually do this in places like Nigeria, Haiti, El Salvador, etc.
My take on this is that huge numbers of Hispanics and Pacific Islanders will convert to the Mormon Church with the idea of crashing into America’s White Mormon society, but few blacks will join the LDS. The moral restrictions are too tough for almost all blacks and also blacks can’t sit still for three hours in calm, White Mormon church activities – blacks like to jump around and shout in church and at the end of the day, even super nice White Mormon families don’t like to hang around large, black urban areas – they won’t say they avoid the areas because they are “racist” – they just want to be in a safe, child friendly community – not a place like East St. Louis, Memphis, or Detroit.
To sum up this essay on the LDS Church, I would say that if you are looking to be involved with a “Christian” church with lots and lots of very nice White folks, then you should check out the LDS Church. Be honest with them and say that you respect their pro family policies and their healthy activities and tell them you heard lots of positive things about Mormons being such nice folks.
The LDS Church has many of the strengths and weakness of other once, prosperous, White Christian Churches. If you haven’t given up on trying to find “church,” give the Mormon/LDS Church a shot, and leave racial activism and most politics out of the LDS church buildings.