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Editor’s Note: Here’s Dr. Michael Hill’s latest essay which clarifies the differences between the organic nationalism that the League of the South embraces and Americanism.
In Oklahoma, Americanism is being taken to its logical conclusion where the New York-based “Satanic Temple” is planning to place a Satanic monument on the statehouse grounds next to a statue of the Ten Commandments.
Since the 18th century Enlightenment, the West has made an idol of liberal democracy. It has in effect become the political default position of most Westerners, including most Americans. We accept it as “right” without critical examination. In fact, I don’t think it incorrect to say that liberal democracy has become our civic religion. From it has sprung most of the cultural, social, and political issues that plague the West today: multiculturalism, tolerance, and diversity; floodtide Third World immigration; moral relativism; the feminist and homosexual agendas; the anti-Christian movement; the decline of the Church; public education; gross materialism; the “racism” industry; and a hatred and distrust of the Western canon and tradition in general.
In American politics, voting majorities marshaled every two or four years have become our gods. They dictate to us how we shall live and die. Most say they wouldn’t have it any other way; that would be un-American. To be patriotic, they say, we must live with the results of majority rule, whether a general election, a Supreme Court ruling, or a Congressional vote. They will allow that we can grouse and complain about it as long as we know ourselves bound by it. Otherwise, how could we claim to be “good Americans”?
But a verdict is not sacrosanct just because it was reached through the democratic process.
Our classroom civics books did not tell us that majority rule only works where there is already a consensus of sorts on the fundamental issues within a particular society. For instance, in a Christian country with a high degree of racial and ethnic homogeneity, common language, institutions, and inherited culture, most matters up for a vote are superficial policy issues. They don’t tamper with the agreed-upon foundations of society.
However, in a multicultural and multiracial Empire such as ours, majority rule does tamper with the agreed-upon foundations. It is often fraught with dire and even deadly consequences for the losers, especially if the winners bear a grudge. The fifty-one percent can dispossess the other forty-nine. This is obviously not conducive to civic peace and prosperity.
But the most important question of all is this: can liberal democracy as it exists today uphold civilization? If it cannot, it must be replaced with something that can.
Projections are that the USA—and our beloved Southland—will have a White minority by 2040 or even earlier, depending on immigration policy and minority birth rates. That will mean the end of things as we know them—the end of our civilization. Our ancestors bequeathed us, their acknowledged “posterity,” a society based on Christian moral principles, the English language, racial (and some degree of ethnic) homogeneity, and British legal and political institutions. All this—the foundations of our civilization–will be lost.
Perhaps Americans in regions outside the South are happy with the idea of giving way to minorities and their White leftist enablers. But if the rest of the country is determined to jump off the cliff, is the South obliged to follow along so “democracy” can be upheld?
It is time that Southerners—the descendants of European, Christian peoples who settled the Southern regions of North America—make a fundamental decision to break with the Enlightenment idea of liberal democracy and to embrace the concept of Southern nationalism. Southern nationalism is nothing less than the acknowledgement that Southerners’ (see above definition) survival, well-being, and independence should be the primary considerations for the here-and-now as well as for the future. If current political arrangements do not promote our survival, well-being, and independence, then they should be cast aside for new arrangements that do promote these ends. This includes democracy in all its forms.
WHAT IS ORGANIC NATIONALISM?
What the South must embrace for its survival is organic nationalism, a form of nationalism in which the political state (the government) receives its legitimacy from the organic unity of those whom it serves. In other words, it is a true nation-state such as historic France, Germany, or England. Hallmarks of that organic unity are race/ethnicity, language, culture and folk customs, and religion. It is therefore a “nation”—a distinct people, a Folk—in the primal and fundamental sense. By nature it is conservative in that its main function is to conserve a society that will defend the lives, liberty, and property of the people who comprise it. Their survival, well being, and independence are paramount. Conversely, they reject the top-down universal hegemony of the elites.
What would a South that embraced organic nationalism look like? It would be a South that returned to its European roots but with plenty of leeway given for those cultural attributes that are uniquely Southern. We could listen to Beethoven as well as Hank Williams. We could read Sir Walter Scott as well as William Faulkner. It would embrace and celebrate as good and wholesome all its peculiarities without apology and without embarrassment—its literature, language and dialect, religious faith, folkways, songs, cuisine, myths, and overall worldview. It would also draw from that deep cultural well that is Europe, taking the best of that and calling it our own as well.
That the organic South is both European and extra-European should be no problem for us to accept. After all, we have been in Dixie for four hundred years, and that experience has turned various European ethnicities into a loose but cohesive unity known as “Southern.” Thus we have one foot in Europe and the other in Dixie, and that makes us a distinct people, a real nation unlike any other in the world.
Unlike the South, the USA is not a “nation;” rather, it is a failed leftist multicultural experiment that is morally, spiritually, and financially bankrupt. I do not believe our Founders intended it to be such, but nonetheless it has become that. And as such, it should have no appeal to true Southerners. Indeed, it should have no moral purchase on our loyalty. The USA had become the “rat” that Patrick Henry smelled all those years ago.
The USA has bound its identity to the Enlightenment idea of Liberal Democracy and all that it entails. Moreover, it has compounded the problem by willingly and wittingly committing itself to becoming a multicultural Empire in which democratic institutions are manipulated by the ruling elite for the benefit of favored groups. We Southerners are not one of those groups.
As I look at my precious children and grandchildren, I shudder to think what will happen to them and their descendants when they become the numerical political (and actual demographic) minority. Revenge—“getting even”—will be a commonplace occurrence as our Folk are attacked and robbed of life, liberty, and property with impunity in the name of Social Justice or some other fabricated universal right. Will the long-established rights of our children and grandchildren be protected by the new regnant majority who are not products of Western Christian civilization? Or will a majority of wolves vote to devour a minority of sheep? I think you know the answer.
We Southerners must embrace a new paradigm. We must think “outside the box” in which our enemies have placed us. We must have a new organizing principal: organic nationalism. It is the answer for the South if we are serious about the survival, well being, and independence of the Southern people. That means the rejection of the status quo of living in a multicultural empire that sucks our lifeblood.
For our self-preservation dare we cast aside voting and the idea of the “consent of the governed” for a monarchy or dictatorship? No. We must simply re-define along the lines of organic nationalism the political and social entity to which we belong—the Southern nation. In that entity, our interests and moral principles will hold sway, and we can determine who gets to be called “citizen” and who exercises the right to vote and to participate in other civic matters. No more being ruled by alien, universalist elites. No more kowtowing to the interests of Massachusetts, New York, and California or those of the globalists. The Southern nation will be run by Southerners in the interest of Southerners. Will that dawning not be a glorious and blessed day?
Michael Hill
I am unaware of any other ideologically-sound nationalist group in the USA which regularly puts people on the streets and reaches out to folks while doing so in a professional, mainstream manner. As I have said numerous times, I wish there were other such groups in other regions.
I spent about two hours last night doing Google and YouTube searches looking for exactly that. I couldn’t find anything recent.
First, let’s remember that two Southern States, Louisiana, and South Carolina already have popularly elected Governors whose families originated in the Hindu Kush…LOL.
I think Mike’s right, and former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl has been credited as saying much the same thing as Dr. Hill in regard to alien influences.
We already have two alien ideological influences in the United States, the Jews & the Catholics. Now with the addition of the Hindus and Moslems American democracy will become, if it hasn’t already, unworkable.
This is so correct that it shouldn’t even be up for debate.
Blood and soil nationalism, a particular group of people in and procreating themselves in a particular place indefinitely, must be paramount. Everything else, what are and are not rights and responsibilities, constitutions, laws, models of economic organization, individualist aggrandizement, faith systems, etc. must be subservient to that and must at the very very least not harm nationalism, and ideally must enhance and serve the cause of nationalism.
What do you get when your country is just a random piece of geography where random people come to pursue “rights?” You get AMURRIKA.
“I do not believe our Founders intended it to be such, but nonetheless it has become that.”
I hate to nitpick this one quote in an OUTSTANDING article by Dr. Hill, but it must be noted that the Founders were like John Hammond from Jurassic Park. Driven by a combination of greed and idealism, they thought themselves masters of the universe when they forged the Constitution in lock down secrecy in 1787. They had created a new species of government, a new egg as it were:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoW2klqj9fY
Like Hammond, they marveled at their creation and were delighted as it hatched and took form. Then it grew up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnRxQ3dcaQk
Hammond didn’t escape blame for the terror he unleashed. Neither should the Framers escape blame for creating the monstrosity that is the SCREWnited States of Amurika.
Dan, I agree with you. Though I totally support Dr Hill and love this article I do somewhat disagree with him on that one point. The Founders were influenced by Enlightenment ideas – and that is not good.
“Hallmarks of that organic unity are race/ethnicity, language, culture and folk customs, and religion.”
I agree with Hill.
So did John Jay:
“Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people – a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs . . . a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties”
Northwest European race, the English language, Protestant Christianity, British political principles, and the manners and customs born of the frontier experience – these organic ties not only bind Southerners to one another, they bind together all old-stock Americans of every region, as well as those subsequent European Christian immigrants who’ve truly assimilated into the old-stock American people.
Re: ‘“Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people – a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs . . . a band of brethren, united to each other by the strongest ties” — Northwest European race, the English language, Protestant Christianity, British political principles, and the manners and customs born of the frontier experience — these organic ties not only bind Southerners to one another, they bind together all old-stock Americans of every region….’:
The Welsh and Germans who constituted the twin founding stocks in THIS region in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries fit the formula fairly well, since the English language generally suits us, and we seem to meet all the other requirements.
I don’t think I deserved to be banned. I did not accuse half a dozen people of being jews, just 1 1/2, and where are the northern WN’s to contribute here?
I make no apologies for my accusation however.
Re: NYYankees
I was referring specifically to your phone conversation with my father-in-law.
The moderation system is on for everyone.
This is what a real nation looks like:
http://news.yahoo.com/uganda-39-homophobe-chief-sets-sights-gay-briton-051718692.html
Palmetto,
I sometimes think you just would have been happier in southern europe. Whatever “enlightenment” ideas we Americans did have seemed to work well enough among the Northwest european baptists and bible based christians (and you can’t milk Jefferson’s propaganda pieces where he was trying to get money from europeans for the endless proof of the “enlightenment” americans).
It seems, more and more, that the “Wasps” will be like the (real) Southerners in, at least at the moment, losing the war but winning the peace. I’ve never seen wasps be more conscious of themselves as a group than now, nor rich-poor wasps breaking bread, and north-south wasps breaking bread.
That’s not really what the ‘wn’ or ‘southern nationals’ want to have happen or to hear, but it’s out there. For instance, in the Pew research that shows, while they are leaving their churches, they are moving within themselves mostly, and this, despite things such as the enticements of “fast track conversions” by other religions like romanism.
Wasps have a right to exist like anyone else. Definitely, they have proven themselves as “a people.” They have been this name (“wasp”) by OTHERS (so they are recognized as a people by others, obviously).
To harm them is Genocide, then.
Like the southerners, the more they are pushed out, they more they become “a people.”
Some will feel they have more in common with other northwest euro colonists and the home countries (england, germany, scotland, primarily)
The other thing is, the internet has opened up tons of research opportunities and so people who have been in colonial situations can MUCH more easily re-connect now with their families, other researchers about their families, and so on. This is very new.
I think one can expect from it, a new surge of pride in the northwest european “protestant” communities. Even many minorities don’t like what has happened to american founding stock of folks, and no one more than ex slaves KNOWS the absurdity in t.v. blaming (and trying to make a scapegoat of) the English (of all people) in the UPPER SOUTH (of all places, lol) for the whole of world slavery. (uh…let’s discuss some of those non-wasps down in the islands…)
“….a band of brethren…”
I like that phrase. The Brethren Band…. our band of brethren…”
This connection Dr. Hill speaks of is already happening, will continue to happen, is strengthening (even as they think it is weakening). Really, the “wasps” (of so many sorts) just made too many tracks to be quite forgotten and easily swept under the rug by the “other” europe, as much energy, time, money, propaganda, lockdown on voice, etc, as has been shoved into that project in the past six generations.
Besides which, they’ve lost some mighty interesting and intelligent europeans by degrading them that way. It just seems unproductive or counter-productive, ultimately, short-sighted, the kind of thing that happens when people let their egos get in the way of thing.
They can’t sustain a civilization. the black is forever a child. It’s extra ordinary. Every single black student in exam was late, unprepared, confused. Christ on the cross, we are doomed!
“British political principles”
Indeed. Those principles are part of the Enlightenment.
For the record, my phone discussion with your father in law referenced my being banned from CofCC’s FB page and the money I had just paid to join it, which I politely requested be refunded. There were no ‘new’ accusations of anyone being jewish during it, sorry. That is pure nonsense.
If southerners truly desire a united movement with northerners, or even some semblance of an alliance, I think they need to work harder to understand our way of seeing things.
Renee was on the phone with her mom while you were on the phone with her dad.
During that conversation, you insinuated that I was Jewish, and Bill Lord from Mississippi, and James Edwards’ wife. That was after suggesting that Kyle Rogers was Jewish and so was Jared Taylor’s wife on this website. You also claimed on this website that the CofCC “hated” the middle class and working class. Oh, and women too. Also, the CofCC was under the control of Jews, or whatever.
Where did you come up with this stuff? Honestly, I have no idea, but it sounded like you were going off the deep end. That’s why you were blocked. My father-in-law has enormous patience and told us to let you back into the CofCC group. As far as I know, you are there now.
“We Southerners must embrace a new paradigm. We must think “outside the box” in which our enemies have placed us. We must have a new organizing principal: organic nationalism. It is the answer for the South if we are serious about the survival, well being, and independence of the Southern people. That means the rejection of the status quo of living in a multicultural empire that sucks our lifeblood.”
This is exactly right. Your other sentiments about abandoning robust democracy and the shape of Southern nationalism are also the same as my own. The South in the past had a semi-aristocracy,the reason why we lost our aristocracy is mainly because the traditional families withered away into nothing,and I believe we should restart one.
Those of Southern extraction who set a good example by virtue of a practice of traditional nobility,chivalry (in the sense that one is kind to those of lesser station) wealth, values of hard work,thrift, clean eugenics and hygenics, etc, should be emulated by other families and marriages should be arranged between them and those with the same values and standards who measure up to these families.
A semi-aristocracy brings the stability,authenticity,respectability,endurance,and strength of monarchy without the drawbacks. It acts as a check on rampaging democracy, as the lowest members in society look to the aristocracy to decide how to vote.
Do the rest of you also agree with the historicity,practicality, and the validity of my remarks on Southern semi-aristocracy?
So now I’m getting Matt Parrott’s allusion to a broom hovering on your doorstep.
I have NO idea who any of the new people you just added in here are. I’ve never heard of anyone except for Taylor and Rodgers. I absolutely stand by my accusation toward Taylor’s wife; my specific one towards Rodgers was sarcastic in accusing him of ‘wanting to be one.’
I called to get my money back. That was it. I had zero interest in pursuing any complaints of any kind at that point. I attempted to avoid embroiling myself any further in accusations towards anyone and that includes the ones made by your father in law towards people I know.
My and many northerners’ opinion is that we cannot unite with southerners. There are many southerners who would agree. It is my, as well as various other northerners’ opinion, that the southerners have profound issues with both women and the middle class. This is nothing new under the sun.
Last night I was on a nationalist circuit radio show, and there was a featured guest from the northeast who is an outspoken advocate for whites against immigration and zionism. He told me personally that he usually avoids this whole circuit, in spite of being so devoted to defending whites’ heritage and future.
My working class dad won a partial scholarship to a very fancy southern law school. While he came from the northeast, his best friend there was what some northerners called a ‘southern grit’ who hailed from West Virginia. ‘Jimmy’ was lower working class, but also a genius who wound up finishing first in spite of having various emotional issues. He despised what he saw happening to his people in the ‘civil rights era’ (this was in the 60’s), but he never made peace with the elitist rich white kids, either.
I tell that story because I don’t think this movement speaks for whites as a culture, nation or race. My northern associate expressed a deep distrust for the ‘pro-white’ movement. God forbid I should concretize the issues which alienate us. Then I’d be accused of things I never did or said. Or called crazy, etc.
It is what it is, I suppose. But understand that I only express directly what the leaders amongst us tend to keep a yankee closed mouth about.
Re: NY Yankees
1.) I agree … partially.
There’s no reason, for example, why Northerners cannot work through the CofCC and do the same things we are doing in the South through the League. There are plenty of Northerners who are capable of doing this. I’ve met several of them at our own rallies.
At the same time, Northern WN differs in many substantial ways from Southern Nationalism. It’s more anonymous and internet-based. There’s a lack of a common culture, ethnicity, history, and political ideology. Above all else, there is a fixation on what the Jews are doing, which is almost always coupled with a total and complete lack of interest in what White people, especially themselves, are doing.
That’s why it is difficult to work with Northern WNs. See the NSM and Craig Cobb for recent examples.
2.) Southerners don’t have a problem with women. Most of the people in the League of the South are married and have children. I’m married myself and about to have a kid on the way. There are always women at our events and conferences.
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2013/07/29/women-and-southern-nationalism/
3.) How is it that Florida is almost the size of New York now? It’s because your own middle class and working class keep moving here, not the other way around. It’s the North that has a problem with the White middle class and keeps driving them out of California and New York.
4.) I live in Alabama.
There’s nothing much I can do for someone who lives in New York. It’s too far a drive to attend events in even much of the South. All we can do here is try to get our own act together in this region and hope it inspires people to do the same elsewhere.
“My and many northerners’ opinion is that we cannot unite with southerners.”
True. The historical divides are too deep and too strong for any real alliance to form. If you follow the comments on OD and SNN long enough, you realize just how deeply wounded Southrons feel about what Yankees have done to them. I’m a Yankee myself, and I often criticize my fellow Yanks on here because we are basically responsible for all of the self-inflicted problems that our race faces on this continent. Other then the greed of some of the Plantation owners, I can’t think of anything that Southern Whites have done wrong vies a vie the continued existence and advancement of our race in North America.
“It is my, as well as various other northerners’ opinion, that the southerners have profound issues with both women and the middle class.”
1. That depends on how you view gender roles. It’s a gray area.
2. Southerners only dislike the middle class insofar as they dislike Unions and vouch for “limited government.” Southern Nationalists aren’t like that.
I just ran across this interesting documentary video involving Lawrence King, once the highest ranking Black Republican, Bush, Clinton, the RC charity ‘Boys Town’, and others: http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/video-conspiracy-of-silence-the-franklin-scandal/