False Nationalists, False Conservatives, False Christs

False French Nationalist Nicolas Sarkozy
False French Nationalist Nicolas Sarkozy

“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; in so much that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
– Matthew 24:24 (King James Version)

Occidental Dissent readers should be familiar with the multitude of fake conservative, patriot, and “Christian” movements, organizations, and leaders in the United States.

From the “neoconservatives” to the Christian Zionists to the Rainbow Confederates, all kinds of movements target regular White Americans and pretend to be on our side, but nefariously work for an open borders immigration policy for hostile aliens or endless foreign wars for foreign interests like Israel. One year they have us fighting expensive foreign wars against secular Arabs in Iraq, Syria, and Libya. A few years later, it’s drone attacks and expensive new wars for the Kurds or for the handful of remaining secular Arabs against Islamic extremists.

The main argument of the neoconservative warmongers are using now goes something like this: “We must fight these terrible Islamic extremists in the Middle East, ISIS, before they launch  terrible terrorist attacks in the United States.”

Real conservatives and nationalists argue that we should just prevent the Islamic extremists from immigrating to the United States and other Western countries in the first place. We should start deporting those that are already here. OTOH, the fake conservatives and fake Christians always manage to see to it that we don’t control immigration, and we are slandered and marginalized as terrible, disreputable RACISTS.

Since our national governments and “mainstream” conservative organizations are so corrupt, a growing number of “our people” are looking to separate and form smaller independent nations where we are actually in control of things, and which will protect the legitimate rights of our people in our historic lands.

Many Southern Nationalists and real American conservatives looked with hope and inspiration to the Scottish independence movement, but Scotland’s vote to secede from Great Britain just went down to defeat.

Was it real Scottish nationalism that was defeated? No.

A closer examination of the Scottish independence program shows they wanted to secede from Britain to be ruled from Brussels by the European Union, and submit to EU dictates on finance, labor and even hate speech/thought crimes tribunals. On the live or die issue of mass immigration, the Scottish National Party favored leftwing Swedish policies. Yes, they basically were inviting the entire world, including the Islamic Third World, to move to Scotland and be recognized as Scots!

It seems these Scottish Nationalists wanted independence from the English, but “union” with 200 million Pakistani and Algerian Muslims! This strange clan of SINO – “Scotsmen in Name Only” – were 110% opposed to RACISM. Under the twisted dictates of Cultural Marxism, only Whites, especially English Whites can be racists.

What’s going on here? It is yet another example of false nationalists profiting off popular discontent with the status quo. It appears to be the same thing with the various fake conservative and Christian movements here in the United States. The US establishment, which is anti-White, anti-Southern, anti-Christian, and anti-secession, dresses up the same politically correct, welfare state, open borders immigration, internationalist program in a conservative, patriotic, Christian jingoist disguise.

The disguise is somewhat effective –  there is an implied “us” versus “them” – the “us” being ordinary, poor, White working class Scots against the “them” – evil, rich, middle class, conservative English – a historic enemy that goes way back in Scotland’s history. Under the flag of false nationalism (Ireland is another example), the enemy is always a perfectly healthy White European group, and never the nasty, child raping Pakistani Muslims, rioting negroes, black home invaders, diseased African refugees, or the Third World jihadists setting off explosions and beheading soldiers in the streets.

We’ve had quite a bit of this false nationalism in the United States over the century: corrupt elitists who wanted to go to war with Germany waved the US flag to fight the evil German Kaiser and avenge the German Huns cutting off the hands of Belgian babies, and so many of the same lies had us fighting another false patriotic World War against Germany and its allies in Finland, Italy, Croatia, and Hungary. As soon as the “Great Patriotic War” against Germany was over, we were ungulfed in another 60 year Cold War against our kinsmen the Russians (this includes two devastating hot wars against North Korea and North Vietnam), which culminated in the insanity of Reagan conservatives wasting the 1980s fighting the Russians in Afghanistan and Nicaragua, and arming nasty, cut throat jihadists.

How did that turn out for us in the long run? Not so good.

What’s the solution? The answer is real nationalism which promotes the legitimate interests of your own people while simultaneously being kind and fair to closely related groups of other White European people. Some of the most effective nationalists in Europe are doing just that right now, especially in France, Russia, and other parts of Eastern Europe. There is very little or no hatred for Germans among nationalists in France and Putin’s Russia.

Putin’s Russia pursues sound immigration policies (inviting South African Boer farmers, discouraging, evicting Muslim illegals from the Caucuses) while implementing a common sense, pro-Russian foreign policy in the Middle East by backing secular Arab forces like Syria’s Assad over throat cutting, head chopping Islamic extremists who are raping, enslaving, and exterminating Christians.

But remember … above all, avoid false Christs, false saviors, and false flags. And guys… Mel Gibson’s Braveheart isn’t honest history. All White English people aren’t cruel, evil, racists and rapists of poor, oppressed Scots. Braveheart, Schindler’s List, D’jango Unchained  … that’s Hollywood stuff folks, not us.


  1. @Joe Walker:
    “Not only are the English the lackeys of the Jews but they also promote miscegenation. You just have to look at BBC TV shows such as Doctor Who which promotes interracial dating between white women and black men. ”

    I could say the same of everyone in the USA, because of the rubbish that comes out of Hollywood, but that would be Silly.

    BTW, the BBC makes shows like Dr Who. In the UK if you have a TV, you are Forced to pay a yearly license, which goes to the BBC. I understand the BBC takes 5 or 6 billion dollars a year!

    Anti-White leftists have never seen a government job they didn’t like and they have hijacked the BBC and are now replacing the White workers with non-Whites. The BBC used to be pretty good up until the 1980s, but now its gone full blown anti-White. They make nothing but trash.

  2. Hunter Wallace,

    It’d depend on what’s meant by “right-wing”. The Celts are more clannish, more insular. The English have developed a merchant culture.

    The Celtic sense of nationalism is they love what they are regardless of flaws. The English has a tinge of supremacy which I see as at risk of falling to modernity. A mother loves her child, because it’s hers, not because it’s best.

    Listen to Dougie MacLean’s songs “Homeland” and “Eternity”. He has more. Not very left-wing.

  3. Jack Ryan,

    It’s precisely because I love my English heritage that I wrote the above.

    The English continue to be beaten as an anvil, beaten into dividing the UK and being flooded with immigrants.

    Any attempt at saving the English is apparently met with accusations that I hate the English.

  4. Hunter Wallace,

    The English are also more at risk of falling for a libertarian ideology. They love Margaret Thatcher. I like that she seems to have kept immigrants out, but she had some failings.

    Regardless, the English are too caught up with empire. They take pride in having once been powerful… I’d rather they took pride in their ethnicity.

    At majorityrights, they used to post these transhumanists. I’m sure you remember me ranting about. I used to rant everywhere about transhumanists… Finally the webmaster there seemed to wake up to how they might not be nationalists if they wished to evolve a race “beyond” being merely human. That’s how events seemed to me anyway. I still don’t understand how an English nationalist site could host so many articles from its absolute polar opposite. Majorityrights at that time was very popular, so it was significant. Ah, there were many good writers there. The webmaster is extremely nice.

    Additionally Lee John Barnes, who is supposed to be a nationalist, posted there in the comments about eugenics. I believe he was transhumanist at that time, but it’s been awhile. Lynn, who is err English, Ulster Irish?, had that develop-robot-brains article at TOQ, before it was finally removed. I don’t know Richard Hoste’s ethnicity, but he’s another transhumanist.

    My point is: pride in a sense of superiority can lead to that embracing of transhumanism. True nationalism should embrace identity, not supremacy. And many of these nationalist groups can’t distinguish between nationalism and transhumanism. Many still think of Pierce as a nationalist, though he was a Cosmotheist, which opposes nationalism.

    I have all sorts of British books from the BNP and Candour. The idea that I hate the English is laughable. I criticise the Southern identity at times too. Constructive criticism is a positive thing. Nick Griffin has long been a hero of mine. I’m told he’s failed at leading the BNP, but I’ve prayed for his success regardless.

    Perhaps I’ve become like the Rhodesians, in a sense anyway: “More British than the British”.

  5. I took the liberty of deleted some of Joe Walker’s particularly noxious comments slandering our kinsmen the English.

    This is the standard false nationalism that I described in this article – completely negative, obsessed with hatred for some closely related White Indo European group.

    If you are around any negative, false nationalist like this Joe Walker – enlist the bouncer and toss the bum out of the bar/blog.

  6. Southerners – ie White Southerners are overwhelmingly of British heritage and there are few if any conflicts between Scottish British Southerners and English British Southerners. During the Great Depression of the 1930s, some Communists did try to organize poor (Scot Irish) Southerners and attempt alliances with Black share croppers, but the Communist had little success and switched to calling for a independent Black Communist nation in the Black Belt – or else just inciting poor Blacks for murder and mayhem disguised under “Civil Rights” – Communists and other assorted Leftists have for all intents and purposes attacked poor and working class Southern Whites (Scots) for…


    Tim Wise and the SPLC hate poor and working class Southern Whites – the Scot Irish, Rednecks, crackers etc.

    So, the main point of this (great JR/HW) article is to completely avoid false Nationalism the same as false Christs. A Scottish Independence movement based on hating middle class English Conservatives, welcoming mass Pakistani Muslim and Ebola infected Black African immigrants, and submitting to servitude to the EU based in Brussels – that ain’t us. Any Scottish people that hate healthy White English people more than they do Islamic extremists should go hiking in Algeria – like the now, headless French mountain climber.

  7. Jack Ryan: “A Scottish Independence movement based on hating middle class English Conservatives, welcoming mass Pakistani Muslim and Ebola infected Black African immigrants, and submitting to servitude to the EU based in Brussels – that ain’t us.”

    Like every movement and institution in the West, both Scottish Nationalism and the British government have been hijacked by the leftists. We know that the triumph of anti-white leftism in the last decades is closely connected to Jewish activism and their takeover of public institutions. From what I understand, the SNP is a hotbed of anti-white leftism, but the situation is even worse with the British government, which is partially under direct Jewish control.

    The British government is currently replacing British people with Pakistanis and Nigerians. Race-replacement IS HAPPENING NOW. So, I think it is absurd to worry that race-replacement MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE if the SNP got in power. Besides, unlike the SNP, most Scots who support independence do not support race-replacement. It would be interesting to know how many voters who said YES the other day have a good opinion of the SNP. Maybe only a minority of them.

    I support independence for the sake of independence, but I also think that Scotland has a better chance of escaping the Jewish race-replacement program if it gets out of the UK. And that would be good for England too.

  8. Jack Ryan,

    I hope it’s clear now my intentions were positive. I do have a tendency to rant… I’m among the world’s worst online debaters.

    I’ve always taken pride in my Celtic heritage, as well English (I’d have almost nothing without my English heritage), and I’ve just been shocked at times when English tell me it’s all trash or romanticism. And I have interacted with many Brits. I’m not judging entirely by the Internet.

    As I wrote elsewhere: “And the freeing of the UK from these foreign hordes will likely involve a great many meddlesome Americans who are as ignorant of present-day UK as they are of Iraq and the Ukraine. That said, sometimes an outside opinion is helpful.”

    I’d just hate to think 10 yrs from now, “Why didn’t I at least try to help?!”

    I have all sorts of books on the British Isles though. I think we, in America, will have to rediscover our identity to resist modernism. And the Brits live in a land claimed by many descendants as their homeland – which isn’t’ to say these descendants have any right to move there, but expect them to care if the UK is flooded with foreigners. And expect us to revere British heritage.

  9. I was ranting to a Brit from Ulster who’s staying with my parents while in school (why here? I don’t actually know), and he agreed that at least some English don’t like the Celtic heritage. He was saying this in regard to the Irish more though. He’s protestant, but he takes an odd stance I don’t understand on Ulster. I don’t think I want Ulster to unite with Ireland. I can’t even figure his stance on it.

    Debating online though I hear the same arguments, almost as if there’s an email list with: “use these memes, starting with meme 1. Braveheart was fictional (which ofc it was). etc.”. Don’t they realise Americans have stories passed down just as Brits do? We get things confused, but we tend to know a lot of particulars. And Cecil Sharp had to come to the US to retrieve lost English folk ways. My folks came to the US before England and Scotland were united. On the census here, we often treat Scots and English as separate ethnicities.

    It’s not entirely Braveheart, though yes certainly Americans are largely clueless about British affairs, at least most of us including myself.

  10. A funny thing about ethnicity, story I’ve told before: I have relatives who think they’re Irish, one wears a kilt at formal affairs.

    Tracing back, the line identified as English when in Ireland – and had a French name. They don’t look Irish at all! The name was adopted when in Ireland.

    1066 messed the UK up. And yea, I’m small part French, but that’s a sad day. The language would have been more distinct and more focused, and St. Edmund would still be the Saint.

    It annoys me how foreign words are thought to sound more sophisticated. I want to use Old English and Celtic terms instead, for when we want to be haughty. I wish to highlight distinction from Rome.

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