Live Thread: Confederate Flag Demonstrations Take Place Across The South

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1. I read that a firefighter got in trouble for displaying a Confederate flag at a July, 4 Independence parade, and than there was news of a police officer fired for wearing confederate flag boxers. These incidents show us why these protest need to continue until people treat Southerners with dignity and respect. A white Southerner should have the same right to display a flag of his/her heritage as someone from China, UK, Mexico. People should not be having their livelihoods ruined or portrayed as “rednecks” all because they display a symbol of their heritage. A civil rights movement is needed.

   It’s just as bad that they want to remove the battle flags from government property, even though most of the flags they complain about are on memorials. These people seem to forget that those Confederate soldiers were taxpayers, citizens, and fought for the government of their states. It was their states which seceded individually and joined the Confederacy, so the states must honor their memory, just as any government anywhere in the world must honor the memory of their soldiers.

   The people wanting to remove the Confederate flag are racist, even if the flag doesn’t represent just whites, that is what they see. That is who their targeting. They want to erase and cleanse white heritage, so they label it “racist” and for them “moving forward” and “progressing” means erasing white people. This way they can create a new historical narrative that fits into their own agenda.

3. To rename or not? Institutions reconsider honors for racists

   http://apnews.myway.com//article/20150706/us-charleston-shooting-institutions-5ba48ba778.html

   David Glassberg, a University of Massachusetts professor who has researched public memorials, said . . .”These traditions represent the traditions of past people.”

   In Connecticut, the revisionist sentiment has extended in some quarters to non-Confederate figures. The state Democratic Party will decide this month whether to strip the names of two slave-owning U.S. presidents, Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson, from the moniker of its 67-year-old annual fundraising dinner. The party’s chairman, Nick Balletto, said the shooting made him think about how the party has changed and “history has not been kind” to Jefferson and Jackson.

   This is all due to open borders. Cultural genocide as a by-product of physical genocide.

4. Here is video from the Anderson, SC rally.
   

5. “They want to erase and cleanse white heritage …” Nature is the war of all against all. DNA and behaviors correlated to DNA mean that survival and reproduction are the Romulus and Remus that rule reality. Those who are ignorant of history shall foolishly suffer the lessons of history. HW stated the 2 out of 3 rule: You can have blacks, freedom, and civilization but you must choose 2 out of 3. We must fight the battles with weapons that work. Coke is the real thing. Have a Coke and a smile. Things go better with Coke. Simple slogans endlessly repeated whilst combined with the best entertainment. Anti-racism is a code word for anti-white. Denmark Vesey = Martin Luther King = Nelson Mandela = Idi Amin = Stalin = George Soros. Wimp out never stops chimp out. Racial equality means extermination of white people. More and more 1804 = freedom for blacks. Remember Rotherham. Freedom for Muslims means sex slavery for white women and death for white men.

6. The Tennessee rally was pretty stupid. The one biker guy kept trying to portray the flag as some kind of multicultural symbol when it’s really not. And sense he kept going on and on about race, even if he was trying to be inclusive and tolerant, it did more harm than it did good. It sounded provocative and defensive.
   Here is the video:
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqJa4IuVZpQ

   I understand people want to dispel the myths around the flag, about it representing hatred or bigotry, but there is a way to do it without sounding cheesy and stealing that flag from it’s rightful inheritors.

   If people sound defensive as though people are ashamed of their heritage than the cause is already lost. You might as well put the flag in a dustpan and wheelbarrow it to the NAACP if some people are going to keep being defensive. We know what that flag means, it’s part of Southern heritage, no need in having to go all out of you way and be defensive like that. It does no good, and certainly isn’t going to change the minds of the flags opponents.

   That flag is a symbol of Southern white heritage, and for many blacks it is part of their heritage too. That is all that needs to be said about the issue. Trying to turn it into a multicultural symbol makes the flag lose all meaning and harder to defend as a symbol of heritage. If the flag represents heritage, than it represents heritage and the heritage of the people whose ancestors defined the Confederacy. If that flag represents a fad or just a symbol of some undefined heritage that anyone can embrace, than the flag doesn’t represent any heritage at all. Those calling for it to be removed can argue that the flag is just some trashy TV symbol, with no real links to heritage. They can say we’re not being “racist” or genocidal for calling for it’s removal, because even those defending the flag admit the symbol is some wacky multicultural icon and doesn’t represent any real heritage at all.

   If the argument is that the flag is just a relic or a symbol without a real heritage, than the flag doesn’t have a meaning, except to those blacks and “anti-racist” who see it as racist. Those attempting to re-frame the meaning of the flag and it’s “heritage” and steal it away from Southern white people, are just bad as those attempting to steal it by banning it. Both the all-inclusive types defending the flag and those seeking to ban it are essentially trying to erase the flag from Southern white heritage. And that bigotry and racism must be stopped, whether from the inclusive types or the flag haters.

   It should be noted that there are over 70 million Americans (mostly in the South) whose ancestors fought for the Confederacy. So, groups like the SCV who only have 30,000 members are only one voice in this debate and a tiny one at that.

7. Yankee born and bred here, but this fight reaslly is a war between those who want free speech and those who want to crush freedom of expression and all other movements and opinions with which they disagree.

   God speed and keep you, my Southern brethren. Your fight is now the fight of everyone who wishes to think for himself free and unfettered.

8. I and another League member drove down to the Lincolnton rally. Unfortunately it was poorly organized. For some reason the organizer thought it could be held in the Walmart parking lot. Law enforcement was there prior to the start time to keep people off. Eventually it reformed nearby but by that time those of us who arrived at the start time had already left.