First 2020 Presidential Debate

In a word, the debate was aggravating.

I don’t think either Trump or Biden won the debate. There was no big gaffe or knockout punch. I didn’t get the impression that any new ground was covered. It was just constant interruptions and a waste of time to watch. It seemed like Chris Wallace was debating Trump. This created such a distraction that it overshadowed the substantive answers to the questions that were asked.

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  1. Trump refused to condemn White Americans, where Biden holds to the belief of systemic racism, and condemns White Americans. Matter of fact Trump tagged Biden hard when he blamed the “antifa” for burning, looting and murder.

    Biden also used the old saw of “I’m a poor Irish Roman Catholic” which is like a Jew saying, I’m just a poor Jew. LOL. Now be sure and go out and bust an Irish Roman Catholics balls tomorrow. Let Biden know you heard him!

    Then Biden has his own version of the Green New Deal, which includes re-opening the Paris Climate accords, and all of the evil that opens up.

    • Correction: Trump cynically implied ambivalence towards pro-white activism while his DOJ labels pro-white groups terrorists and gives their members 10 year jail sentences for scuffles with antifa. He is a lying snake telling you what you want to hear in order to get your vote and start another Zionist war for Israel. An open enemy is better than a false friend.

      • Yes Butt Goy. I would rather have some one openly condemn me than throw support out one side of his mouth and then sick his dogs on me only to shrug and say “I did my best I never condemned you. It was the other guys decision”

  2. I care so little about this Presidential election that I didn’t even know a debate was happening until I saw it on Facebook tonight. Oh course I just scrolled and kept going. Deo Vindice !

    • @Ron…

      Yes, but, a lot of that came from the fact that President Trump was almost totally out of control for the first 20 minutes.

      Whether you like President Trump or not, he looked incredibly UNpresidential, even by his standards.

      Biden was far from perfect, but, all in all, he scored points for a better decorum.
      Everyone but the most ardent Trump supporters surely saw that.

      • Hello Ivan;

        Yes, but how many drugs did Slow Joe’s owners have to inject in him to get him not to be his typical babbling, incoherent self for 1 1/2 hours? No doubt he will sleep for three days to recover from the ordeal but can his doctors repeat the same trick again? Camel Toe Harris will be screaming at Mike Pence next, she is an even bigger idiot and she doesn’t have the excuse of alzheimer’s disease.

        • @12AX7…

          Yes, I watched the debate from the point of view of a low information voter.
          Whatever they gave Biden, it was really incredible, because he took everything President Trump had to throw at him, and, in most cases, shoveled it back very hard!

          To be clear : I agree with President Trump on most things and would not vote for Biden ever.

          That said, I think, if this were a football game, the final score would be

          BIDEN 30

          TRUMP 20

          It would have been a bigger victory for Biden, had not Trump, on his last response, thrown for a 100 yard touchdown pass, this over the matter of peaceful transferrals of power.

          Be well, My Friend!

      • Ivan- SCREW decorum! Why should we act civil to BEASTS AND PERVERTS!?!?!?

        They are NOT of God, and neither is Biden, if he calls himself a Catholic. (I doubt it, because his positions are totally contrary to trad. Catholic Social Teaching) But Catholics are heretics, as our Protestant ancestors told us, and as the Orthodox have been saying for over a millennium.

        In a war, you don’t score points for decorum. You be an SOB, and fight to win- and let the collateral damage fall where it will.

        “The power within the body of Donald Trump is simply staggering. This is like if you took all of the energy of the sun and put it inside a container. This could be the explanation as to why he has orange skin – he literally has a sun inside of his body, fueling him.”

        I prefer Anglin’s reportage, instead of the milquetoast blasé non-commitalism of this site.
        As I tried to post yesterday, American males once understood the war we were up against. I post it- and a quote from Orwell – once more, again, here- in case y’all have forgotten why God made you men.

        “I want you to make ’em understand: Our country won’t go on forever, if we stay soft as we are now. There won’t be any America — because some foreign soldiery will invade us and take our women and breed a hardier race.“ – Lieutenant General Lewis Burwell “Chesty” Puller (26 June 1898 – 11 October 1971) was a United States Marine officer. He is the most decorated United States Marine, and one of two US servicemen to be awarded five Navy Crosses and one Army Distinguished Service Cross. –

        ‘It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers-out of unorthodoxy.’ George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

        • Orwell is wrong!! Hey, Misogynists gay sodomites that real women hate, … the young women are trying to tell their kin-men something: stop worshipping a man as god, especially a foreign fifth column alien jew weaken you as it’s gay beta orbiter nonsense!! All women know that NO MAN IS GOD as all women have birthed every man in herstory!!!

        • @Father John…

          Thank you, Sir, as always, for your thoughtful replies.

          Yes, Biden represents the devil, yet, I tried to watch the debate as a low information voter, and judge it from that.

          I did not say that I did not agree with President Trump most of the time, for that I do.

          On a side note – I was glad to see Cardinal Burke call out Vice-President Biden yesterday, and as well, all ‘practicing Catholicks’ who do not behave or advocate so.

          When we saw that Burke said that Biden was not in good standing, my wife and I almost fell over!

          At any rate, be well!

          • November,

            It is not often you publicly agree with Father John on matters. I notice you are on fire tonight with 6 recent messages.

            I did not watch the debates. My father and brothers did. I find such matters boring and perhaps useless nowadays. The fact that Biden did not collapse verbally is amazing.

          • November- A friend sent me this yesterday. I post it here, because it is needed.

            “An unknown author posted this articulate and powerful explanation of
            Donald Trump’s attraction to ordinary Americans and why ordinary
            Americans will vote for him in November.

            “If you are a liberal who can’t stand Trump, and cannot possibly
            fathom why anyone like me would ever vote for him, let me fill you in.
            It’s not that we love Donald Trump so much. It’s that we can’t stand
            you. And we will do whatever it takes — even if that means electing a
            rude, obnoxious, unpredictable, narcissist (your words not ours) to
            the office of President of the United States — because the thing we
            find more dangerous to this nation than Donald Trump is YOU.

            How is that possible, you might ask ?

            Well, you have done everything in your power to destroy our country.

            From tearing down the police, to tearing down our history, to tearing
            down our borders. From systematically destroying our schools and
            brainwashing our kids into believing socialism is the answer to
            anything (despite being an unmitigated failure everywhere), while
            demonizing religion and faith, and glorifying abortion, violence, and
            thug culture.

            From calling us racists every time we expect everyone of any skin
            color to follow our laws equally to gaslighting us about 52 genders,
            polyamory, grown men sharing public locker rooms with little girls,
            and normalize the sexualization of young children, you simultaneously
            ridicule us for having the audacity to wish someone a “Merry
            Christmas” or hang a flag on the 4th of July, stand for the national
            anthem, or (horror of horrors) don a MAGA hat in public.

            So much for your “tolerance.”

            (See why we think you are just hypocrites ?)

            We’re also not interested in the fact that you think you can
            unilaterally decide that 250 years of the right-to-bear-arms against a
            tyrannical or ineffective government should be abolished because you
            can’t get the violence in the cities you manage under control. That
            free-speech should be tossed out the window, and that those who
            disagree with your opinions are fair game for public harassment or
            doxing. That spoiled children with nose-rings and tats who still live
            off their parent’s dime should be allowed to destroy cities and
            peoples livelihoods without repercussions. That chaos, and
            lawlessness, and disrespect for authority should be the norm.

            This is your agenda. And you wonder why we find you more dangerous
            than Donald Trump ?

            Your narrative is a constant drone of oppressor/oppressed race-baiting
            intended to divide the country in as many ways as you possibly can.
            You love to sell “victim-hood” to people of color every chance you get
            because it’s such an easy sell, compared to actually teaching people
            to stand on their own two feet and take personal responsibility for
            their own lives and their own communities and their own futures. But
            you won’t do that, you will never do that, because then you will lose
            control over people of color. They might actually start thinking for
            themselves, God forbid !

            This is why we will vote for Donald Trump. Not because he is the most
            charming character on the block. Not because he is the most polite
            politician to have ever graced the oval office. Not because he is the
            most palatable choice, or because we love his moral character or
            because the man never lies, but because we are sick to death of you
            and all of the destructive crap you are doing to this once beautiful
            and relatively safe country.

            Your ineffective and completely dysfunctional liberal “leadership”(?)
            has literally destroyed our most beautiful cities, our public
            education system, and done it’s damnedest to rip faith out of people’s

            However bad Donald Trump may be, and he is far from perfect, every day
            we look at you and feel that no matter what Donald Trump says or does
            there is no possible way he could be any worse for our country than
            you people are. We are sick to death of your stupid, destructive,
            ignorant, and intolerant behavior and beliefs — parading as
            “wokeness.” We are beyond sick of your hypocrisy and B.S.

            We are fed up with your disrespectful divisiveness and constant
            unrelenting harping and whining and complaining (while you live in the
            most privileged nation in the world), while making literally zero
            contributions of anything positive to our society. Your entire focus
            is on ripping things down, never ever building anything up.

            Think about that as there is something fundamentally very wrong in the
            psychology of people who choose destruction as their primary modus

            When Donald J Trump is reelected, don’t blame us, look in the mirror
            and blame yourselves because you are the ones that are responsible for
            the rise of Donald Trump. You are the ones who have created this
            “monster” that you so despise, by your very actions. By your refusal
            to respect your fellow Americans, and the things that are important to

            You have made fun of the “fly-over states,” the people who “cling to
            their guns and religion,” the middle class factory workers and coal
            miners and underprivileged rural populations that you dismissively
            call “yahoos” and “deplorables.” You have mocked our faith and our
            religion. You have mocked our values and our patriotism. You have
            trampled our flag and insulted our veterans and treated our first
            responders with contempt and hatred.

            You have made environmentalism your religion, while trashing every
            city you have taken responsibility for. You scream from the rooftops
            about “global warming” and a “green new deal” while allowing tens of
            thousands of homeless people to cover your streets in literal shit and
            garbage and needles and plastic waste without doing a single thing to
            help them or solve the environmental crisis your failed social
            policies are creating. But we’re supposed to put YOU in charge of the
            environment while gutting our entire economy to institute this plan
            when you can’t even clean up a single city ?

            You complain – endlessly – yet have failed to solve a single social
            problem anywhere. In fact, all you have done is create more of them.

            We’ve had enough. We are tired of quietly sitting by and being the
            “silent” majority. So don’t be surprised when the day comes when we
            finally respond. And trust me it’s coming, sooner than you might
            think. And also trust me when I say it won’t be pretty. Get ready.

            When Donald Trump is reelected it will be because you and your
            “comrades” have chosen to trash the police, harass law-abiding
            citizens, and go on rampages destroying public property that we have
            all paid for and you have zero respect for.

            When Donald Trump is reelected it will be because we are sick of your
            complete and utter nonsense and destruction. How does it feel to know
            that half of this country finds you FAR more despicable than Donald J.
            Trump, the man you consider to be the anti-Christ ?

            Let that sink in.

            We consider you to be more despicable, more dangerous, more stupid,
            and more narcissistic than Donald Trump. Please, allow yourself a few
            seconds of self-reflection to let that sink in. This election isn’t
            about Donald Trump vs. Joe Biden.
            This is about Donald Trump vs YOU.

            So if on the morning of November 4 (or more likely January 19, by the
            time the Supreme Court will weigh in on the mail-in ballot fiasco that
            we are headed towards), and Donald J. Trump is reelected, the only
            people you have to blame is the left-wing politicians, media drones
            and yourselves.

            You did this.
            Yep you.”

          • Fr. John +,

            This man (I presume) makes the lesser of the two evils argument. My issue is that the GOP and the Kushner administration are allowing us to be destroyed by the same hooked nose tribe at the ‘speed limit,’ whereas, the marxists want our cultural and genetic genocide at warp speed.

            The author of that letter writers about the United States being more divided than perhaps ever before. Well, I am not sure if that is completely accurate, but nevertheless, when you have a polyglot of differing races, creeds, religions, and the wake that those create in a chimera nation, while simultaneously talmudic oligarchs control the ‘chessboard’ and implement their agenda.

            Honestly, as in the Humpty Dumpty fairytale, all the king’s horsemen and all the king’s men couldn’t put the USA together again. Not that it should be. America is the jew’s more powerful golem that they ever unleashed on the world. It needs to leave the stage, an it now only does the will of our opponents.

            It’s unfortunate that Occidental Dissent doesn’t have a Telegram channel where members could send each other encrypted DMs. All I can say here is that there are dark forces mustering no matter who is or isn’t declared the winner of the presidential election. A (((Biden/Harris))) victory at the polls will not halt the marxist tsunami already set in motion because that ticket is still too “oppressive ” to the admittedly trained marxists and the spiteful mutant orc army of useful idiot anarchists and feral, low impulse, and non-white BLM (burn, loot, murder) comrades.

        • John, you come off like someone who beats puppies for sexual pleasure.

          If your God is anywhere near as bitter as you are, I’ll take hell, thanks.

          • “If your God is anywhere near as bitter”:

            “He that loveth not knoweth not God, for God is love”: First Epistle of John. “Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?”: Gospel of Matthew.

  3. It was also clear that Trump did zero prep for this debate and Biden did. A lot of arrogant fighters don’t train before fights and do poorly against a sub par opponent.

  4. I’d say Biden overall won because Trump has eaten people alive in the past, but Biden just showed no fear it was like he couldn’t be rattled. Biden’s introverted personality screwed Trump up. He just stood his ground when Trump was expecting him to crack.

  5. The Boomer Bowl as HW termed. Tuned out after the Supreme Court question In the beginning when my one year old sun started to threw a tantrum and wanted the Pixel children’s programming back on.

    • They cannot tell the truth about Charlottesville, either side: That the UTR people had the legal permit, they were originally protesting the illegal removal of a Confederate statue, that Antifa, goaded by the police, attacked UTR without provocation and UTR was acting in self defense. One of the consequences was the destruction of numerous other Confederate statues then every other statue these pricks could destroy including a Fredrick Douglass statue!

      Had Trump unleashed the DOJ on the local police and other authorities at that time he may have intimidated the Left, encouraged his followers to support him now and prevented much of the mayhem that followed. Trump seems never to fail to fail to follow through on anything except tax cuts, a blank check for “our greatest ally” and supporting big business.

  6. I give an edge to Biden but regardless people know that Kamala will be the president sooner than later. So in a sense this is all needless. Biden was insane when he said Antifa was an ideology and not an organization. Biden also talked about Ku Klux Klan members in white robes and torches going up a hill at Charlottesville. Trump seemed more bully than serious debater but Wallace was highly biased! It got old fast. Trump attacked families. Boden did not. He should have attacked both Jared and Ivanka to liven things up.

  7. As John Derbyshire once said, WE ARE DOOMED. Trump assumes the ersatz tough guy persona will win him re-election, while Biden pretends we don’t know he is literally a puppet for the bipartisan Establishment. I saw a snippet of the 1960 debate between JFK and Tricky Dick Nixon on C-Span last week. Say what you will about each of them and their parties at that time but you had an actual debate about ideas and specific policy disagreements. Too much money to be made now under the system as it stands to let any outsider disrupt the status quo. I realize now that even if Trump were Huey Long he could not have truly changed anything. The entire Establishment was and is against change, and no single person can fight TPTB alone. We are doomed because we won’t sacrifice anything to try make things better.
    I’m still voting for Trump for accelerationist purposes. I want the normies who vote their executioners into office to feel real pain for that act. Let’s have a Final Solution. Good vs. Evil vs. Apathy. The winner then can work its will on the rest. No more lies. No more excuses. A fight to the finish.

    • “I’m still voting for Trump”
      Turning out to vote just lends legitimacy to this ridiculous Jewish circus. Low voter turnout always has the controlled media worried because it shows people realize they have no actual power and are not getting fooled into thinking they do. Voting is essentially ticking the ‘I agree to the terms and services’ box for ZOG’s America. By voting for one candidate and not neither you have made a contract with ZOG and whatever outrages they perpetrate they have your approval.

    • J.R. – ” Say what you will about each of them and their parties at that time but you had an actual debate about ideas and specific policy disagreements…”

      We also were a 90% WHITE Country back then, and the SAT/ACT tests that got you into college, were ONLY for the SMARTEST- not the big-lipped, swarthy EEOC ‘minority’- Candidates. People also discussed new books, and had real conversations about intellectual matters, instead of burying their head in their idol screens, and checking their JewBook accounts…..

      O tempora, O mores.

      Not with a bang, but with a whimper….
      Not if I can help it!


  8. Good God that debate was a disgrace on every level. The Proud Boys are amped up, about to get smashed by Antifa and then arrested by Barr. This is no longer America.

  9. @Chloupek…

    With every respect, Dear J.R., we are not ‘doomed’, – far from it, but, yes, we are going through troubled times.

    • Hey Ivan, hopefully your assessment that America’s problems can be addressed effectively is correct. My concurrence with Mr. Derbyshire is based on what I see around me, both personally and through various media filters: a refusal to acknowledge reality by the great mass of citizens unless their lives are directly and immediately affected. I see no understanding of the totalitarian regime, public and private, being set up through the covid-19 reactions and systemic racism secular religion great awakening. Nor do I see awareness of how people of diverse temperaments and philosophies of living are being diverted from seeing the source of their insecurities, away from the Oligarchs, towards others equally insecure.
      Without correct perceptions of the facts of life no correct conceptions of how to effectively pursue goals can occur, and as a further result no change to the status quo that the many live lives of quiet despair, while the few use their assets to rig the game of life so that they always win, is possible. I just don’t see the normies ever changing their inherent selfishness and false values without life or death staring them in the face.
      That is why I favor a Trump win: both the Establishment and the Marxist Revolutionaries will go insane, and their hatred of the rest of us will flow unreserved. Maybe then the Good People will finally prove their values are real by actually fighting and defeating Evil. I have my doubts, but without being forced to choose the work hard and play by the rules crowd will just coast while TPTB make our slave status permanent and unbreakable. I do believe the time for choosing sides has arrived. Let the side with the will to power win, once and for all times. If Good deserves to win, it will triumph.

      • @J.R. Chloupek…

        Thank you for your reply. I know you are being honest, and I know what you are seeing is there, and that it is symptomatic of serious problems.

        That said, there are times on a battlefield when things look very dim.

        Things change, however, and, in such moments, we need to be scrupulous to see good possibilities, not just the bad, as is the tendency of all of us to do.

        Though I am voting for the President because of what I have heard in my prayer life, I do agree with you that another Trump win holds many prospects which, though initially grim, hold a much better prospect for longterm healing that do a Biden victory, something which will be accepted by The Right.

        And, yes, I totally agree with you that nothing can improve, if we do not stare honestly at what is staring us in the face.

        That, Sir, IS step #1.

        All the best to you and yours!

  10. I disagree with you hunter, I think some ground was gained and we get some sort of idea of the narrative going forward from the Democrats:

    1. Biden refused to say he won’t pack the courts
    2. Antifa isn’t an organization just an ideal. Expect crackdown on WNists and Antifa be removed from being considered domestic terrorists.
    3. Rittenhouse considered a White Nationalist Terrorist
    4. Biden believes in systemic racism
    5. Complete Denial of mail-in military ballots found in Pennsylvania that were dumped.
    6. Biden questioned why Trump removed “Anti-Racism training” which implies it’s going to resume under Biden.

    Despite Trump being the attack dog tonight, he was more on the defensive with very little new policy going forward being discussed and defending his record. However, Biden revealed that he is basically going to continue the social liberal policies that are currently being pushed by the left.

    Scary stuff. It’s funny that Hispanics when polled actually think Trump did better compared to the crooked polls used by the other media broadcasters.

    • I agree with you. I will add that Trump got in 2 good zingers that I think will stick:

      1) The part about the law enforcement group endorsements. Crickets for Biden on that

      2) The quip about doing more in 47 months than Joe did in 47 years.

      I would’ve added if I were up there that Joe’s most memorable achievement in the last 47 years seems to be pubic hairs on soda cans as mentioned in the senate confirmation hearing he headed over Justice Thomas.

      I do think he interrupted too much. The times he didn’t, Joe hung himself with his words. Trump needs to selectively interrupt to make a good point and if needs to be brief like the 2 things I mentioned above.

  11. Trump was a bit needy. Biden appeared to be well rehearsed. The problem I have will Biden is that he’s obviously just a stalking horse for Harris. I’m not interested in electing a well rehearsed actor who’s going to resign in a year and hand over that power to Noghindu.

    • I find it odd that people keep saying that Harris will be the one in charge in a Biden administration.

      She’s an affirmative action seat-filler. She won’t be in charge of anything. The idea of the VP being the one in charge is a GOP thing because of Cheney under Bush 2 and Bush 1 under Reagan. Trump broke the mold because his handler is the Mossad agent Jared Kushner, not the terrorist-supporting 9/11 anthrax-attack collaborator Mike Pence.

      But Democrats never do it that way.

      The real power in a Biden administration will be a Secretary of State or a Chief of Staff.

      Besides, when the Democrats nominated senile Joe Biden it was a sure signal they were throwing it, like the Democrats threw it with Kerry and the Republicans had thrown it with Bob Dole.

      Chuck Schumer has to be quite content with Donald Trump, the best President Israel ever had. The Jews are so happy about Trump they are literally calling him “the King of Israel” and the New Messiah -i.e., the Anti-Christ – and they are going to write a new book in the Jew Bible about him, as Sheldon Adelson’s wife pointed out.

      • Kamala will be a very big player in any Biden presidency. Mostly by inheriting the office when Joe is incapacitated. Yes, Trump is King Jew. Agreed, but what is your point?

      • Hey, Banned Hipster:

        You mentioned that the Secretary of State and/or Chief of Staff will be running the country, NOT either Joe Biden or Kamala “Heels High” Harris.

        So,do you think the Secretary of State will be Susan Rice? I can’t imagine it will be Hillary Clinton again thanks to her little email scandal.

        But La Clinton still seems very vested in Biden’s win. Do you think she’s already been hand-picked for Chief of Staff?

        Would love to know your thoughts on this.


    • “The problem I have will Biden is that he’s obviously just a stalking horse for Harris. I’m not interested in electing a well rehearsed actor who’s going to resign in a year and hand over that power to Noghindu.”

      Why are you so sure he’ll resign or that Harris is the puppet master? We don’t even see the true pupper masters, but any visible politicians that would pull is strings are more likely to be Shumer and Pelosi. Clearly he’s not as senile as the right makes him out to be and will certainly not be resigning in a year. Why would the puppet masters want him out anyway when he’s a better front than Harris?

      Trump most certainly did not help himself with suburban female voters in this debate. I turned it off after 40 minutes, but all I saw was him being rude and interrupting the whole time, not the calming leadership swing voters were looking for. Biden didn’t help himself either by urging more lockdowns, the public mood is not in terror about Covid, but fatigued by lockdowns and wants normalcy again and their kids back in school.

  12. Trump did not condemn White people or the Proud Boys when asked to do so. Instead he shot back and brought up Antifa and put Joe Biden on the defense. That alone proved his populist / nationalist credentials to me in the debate.

    I just want to add that was the worst performance by a moderator I have ever seen. Chris Wallace is a clown.

    • You really are a simp Gryphon. “He didn’t call us scum” is the highlight of what you can take away from this. Some of you are broken and have lost all pride

      • Still going to vote for Trump. Still going to buy a house, still working hard, still living my life.

        Some of us don’t have the luxury of sitting in our basements waiting for society to collapse to bring about a civil war to induce the change you want to see in the world.

        • The fact that you are voting for Trump does not bother me at all. Your continual insistence that we, as free people are making some monumental mistake by not voting for him again is what’s offensive. He lost 3 votes in my household because we expected to see what we voted for,(and donated good money to support) implemented that’s all. Talking about what he’s “going to do” when he’s had 3.5 years already doesn’t work for us. Can’t blame democrats either, because he had full control for 2 years and did nothing but tweet and pass a huge tax cut for his Swamp. He told that group at Mar-A-Lago that he “had just made them a lot of money”.

          It would have been 4 lost votes, but my husband saw through him in 2016 and stayed home.

          Your continual bashing of Richard Spencer, who is not our person either is also very odd. Why the obsession? He is free to vote for whomever he would like to. There is only one group that continuously tries to guilt people into doing what they want, or suggest they’re stupid for not obeying, in my opinion.

  13. On the BBC analysis of the debate the anchor interviewed a black woman. It’s absurd. No blacks will be open to Trump. BBC what’s the fucking point chatting to blacks about the 12 million or so swing voting whites?

    • President Kushner told Trump that White people outside of NYC, LA and SF live in double wides, are drinking beer in their Barcaloungers, cashing their SS disability checks while watching the degenerate Jerry Springer Show produced by his peeps. They have nowhere else to go, don’t worry about them, they are idiots who will scrape their knuckles on the way in to the voting booth for him like last time. President Kushner has nothing but contempt for White people, most of whom don’t have Harvard degrees like him so cannot be as smart as him and his peeps.

      President Kushner probably doesn’t care if Trump loses anyway, he has given “his” people almost everything they wanted except for one thing they are still demanding, a war with Iran. If Trump believes he is going to lose he may just go balls out and attack Iran on the way out the door; why not? After Iran is wrecked and the Near East is on fire again Chuckles Schumer, Dianne Feinstein and the rest of the Usual Suspects will be the first to condemn Trump for the war even though they have been privately urging him to attack Iran. They are without honor.

      • 12Ax- Fine. What are YOU doing to awaken the Troglodytes? OR better yet, REMOVE THE JEW?

        Actions speak louder than words.

  14. Subtext of debate. Trump won in 2016 because 40,000 white nationalists in Penn, Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin showed up to vote. Trump was forced again, by a Jewish moderator to decry and condemn that sliver of voters. Trump can’t win without getting those racist bastards out to vote so the press spend time getting him to verbally condemn several tens of thousands of voters.

  15. “Moon of Alabama” (based in Germany) typically has good commenters:

    “If only ‘Mystery Science Theater 3000’ moderated and commented on the debate”:

    “Fox Wallace hosting the Presidenture Candidiasis is like the pedophile Priest holding a Sunday Sermon – All American Exceptionals”:

  16. One more quotable Moon of Alabama comment: “Sounds to me like ISRAEL won” (the debate). Israel will win the election too, whichever right wing of the two-winged one-party system wins.

    • and you Christian’s cucks will continue to worship a jew as God almighty… no wonder the young women are ditching their kins-man beta cucks in DROVES!!

      • Jesus wasn’t a jew. I take it you’re some kind of pagan feminist with all the female worship shit. Pathetic crap.

        • If Jesus wasn’t a Jew, then what was he, Christard? A Roman? a Gaul? or a Dacian?

          And no pagan ever worshipped females. It’s you worthless Christ cucks who worship a Jewish whore as “Mother of God”. Feminism is a Judeo-Christian invention that never existed in Pagan societies.

          • Jesus is a literary construct. Probably a Greek writer. The basic story narrative is so anti semitic and the text is a crude koin.

        • Who cares!!!! He was treated like shit when he was here 2000+ years ago, and he isn’t coming back,

          Gods damn, CIs!!!

  17. While the Sheeple (including “Alt-right” sheeple) are distracted by the “debates” and “election,” the all-powerful (thanks to the Almighty Dollar) Anglo-Catholo-Zionist Imperial Hegemon is advancing on the remaining vestiges of national semi-independence around the world, such as Belarus, Russia, China, Korea, Iran, Syria, Venezuela. Cuba, Nicaragua…not many more to go.

  18. Richard ‘the clown’ Spencer claimed Biden won the debate simply because he told Trump to shut up.

    Spencer is a weak man who has no sense of objectivity. Trump was debating the moderator and Biden and still came out on top. Trump was aggressive but Biden came off as angry, disgruntled, and immature.

    I responded to Spencer’s tweet to which he claimed Biden ‘nailed’ Trump:

    “Thanks for the analysis, you clown. No nationalist takes you seriously anymore ever since you endorsed that trojan horse for Marxists, Anarchists, and the general scum of society.”

    • Gryphon. I totally agree. It’s comical for a so called nationalist to back Biden who is so owned by blacks now. The old man sold his soul to blacks and planned parenthood.

      It’s so obvious Trump has at least opened a door no Republican in ages has done on a wall, refugees, legal immigration, America First. Yeah, he is part b.s. artist no doubt. But again, where were guys like Bush 1 and 2 on the above issues? McCain? Romney? Dole? Kemp? Or one Republitard Senator after the next? At least a Republican in the future can build off what Trump did.

      Spencer is another of these nationalist guys who has zero nationalist guys warming up in the bullpen to come in. So all they do is bitch and moan with zero potential candidates of their own.

      To this day I thought it was a mistake for David Duke to give up his state representative job. It’s not easy for White people who defend Whites to be elected. Even Congressman King of Iowa gave a poor defense of himself when he defended Whites and was then defeated. Meanwhile soon to be Congress woman Marjorie Taylor Greene showed what it’s like to win when you have backbone and defend your position well despite jewsmedia and even Republican Steve Scalise calling you a racist.

      The left makes inroads because they take some piece of the pie. Trump has also taken some piece of the pie other nationalists can learn from and do bigger and better things eventually. Guys like Spencer just wait for a magic man who never shows up.

      • The only reason King was defeated was because the Gathering of Pussies removed whatever power he had and his constituents felt un-represented. If the party doesn’t wilt like the worthless cowards they are, he’s still in there.

  19. I think the greatest mistake of the debate was the decision Chris Wallace made, beforehand, not to have a collection of judge’s gavels – either that or a snare drum…

    • @Ivan Turgenev,

      After two minutes, the candidates microphones should have gone mute automatically. Everything about this so-called debate fits perfectly with 2020 and the state of the union (i.e., it’s a farce and debacle).

      Be well.

  20. Trump won the debate rather easily. Jewish Chris Wallace kept having to come to the defense of his Democrat friend, Biden. Biden needed some flies in his mouth when Trump hammered him with the question about no police organizations backing Biden. Biden simply lied and said we don’t have time to talk about it. Lol.

    America has become such a staged shit show. Jewish media along with butt goy media become our ” mediators.” I happened to watch one news show and it’s an Asian woman, Hispanic guy and jewish professor talking about the debate. In typical Jewish fashion we get the old leftist professor pretending to be balanced as he rages on against Trump. It’s all a set up.

    They were actually calling the Proud Boys ” White Supremacists” which really is a compliment in this day and age. White Supremacy becomes the big issue as nogs nog it up literally every day and especially during the weekends. 3100 shot in Chi Congo so far this year as the jewsmedia talks about White Supremacy. Allen Funt from Candid Camera days could not do something so absurd.

    Basically those who run the media just go with the absurd. Kind of like saying women are better at sports than men. This is what we do with blacks and anarchists. Black Crime is simply not reported or for a day. White cops become the bigger problem than black demons ruining schools, neighborhoods and constantly committing crime.

    Anarchists simply get called protesters even if they are committing crimes constantly and do it for months straight. They still get called protesters. This is what happens when you allow media to become kosherized. They know nothing happens to them.

    There was an article the other day I think in the Atlantic where the author from the left is speaking of breaking up as a country. He mentioned the nation is too big now. Yes!!. Been saying this for a while. We have nothing in common except speaking English and consuming crap. Break this disgusting marriage up already!! A huge reason to vote for Trump one more time!!. The left is going to be screaming for a breakup if he wins. Let’s get it on!

    • I watched debate through properly last night. Biden really did come off a cynical liar. I don’t used that term casually. He deliberately misrepresented events, facts and intent on almost every single question. Trump is a bit vain and needy but he was in earnest. His repetition of the mantra of Antifa as IDEA v ORGANIZATION simply lost Biden his chance at winning. Good luck with that one bro. I do not think that Biden is a good person on some level, there’s a whiff of the satanic in his overall demeanor. This asshole basically sold the center left on supporting the invasion of Iraq. Politicians are culpable for wars they start or lobby for. This demonic old man is trying to blame a political leader for a plague which is probably going to infect over half the global population one way or another.

    • I agree. Splitting this place up would actually facilitate salvaging at least some of the territory for Europeans, and would also deprive the (((noses))) of their massive, planetary-politics-distorting enforcer, the USA.

      Let the nuts and wogs have their territory, and normal people have theirs.


    Karl Rittenhouse’s attorney has sent a cease and desist letter to Biden because Biden called him a White supremacist in the debate. They want a retraction.

    Anglin’s take is that it was basically a Trump-Wallace debate and Joe Biden spent the entire debate denying his own platform, denying the government saying Hunter took a $3.5 million bribe, denied the fact that he called troops “stupid bastards”., he denied the Green New Deal.

    From the article:

    “Several times during the event, Joe Biden would say, “his own government disagrees with him.” And that is of course the key problem. His own government, with scumbags like William Barr, Chad Wolf, Mike Pompeo, Anthony Fauci – they are preventing him from doing the will of the people. The Trump we saw on stage in Cleveland was a true leader of the people, who would crush the enemies of the people if he did not have this filth swarming him…..

    These are serious times. We are dealing with what amounts to an apocalypse. The Democrats actually want to completely destroy this country. To go out there and be all friendly with a man who is literally the figurehead of a movement that wants to open the borders, destroy the family, remove everyone’s rights, force people to live in pods and eat bugs, and everything else these people are planning would have demonstrated that Trump isn’t serious. Trump is serious. He understands what we are facing, and he isn’t playing a game…

    At one point, Trump was asked to disavow white supremacists, and he said that he’d be happy to, but he doesn’t know who they are. I also don’t know who they are. Even if you accept that the people at Charlottesville were “white supremacists,” all of those groups are gone. They’re definitely not involved in fighting Antifa.

    Wallace asked if he would tell them to “stand down.”

    “I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing, not the right wing,” Trump told Wallace. “I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace … What do you want to call them? Give me a name. Give me a name?”

    “Proud Boys? Stand back and stand by.”

    He didn’t condemn anyone, and he didn’t tell them to stand down – he told them to stand back and to stand by.”

  22. What’s been happening in London is MUCH more important than these debates, and not one in a million Sheeple, including “Alt-right” sheeple, pay attention to it:

    There are MANY more important things happening that are ignored by people who are focused on Faux News and other mainstream political theater.

    • So, Anony-mouse. What you link to, merely points out that Jews have their fingers in every dirty dealing in the entire world. Tell us something new. Nu?

  23. What we learned from this shitshow is meaningless.

    White American conservative-liberals are unorganized, indolent, greedy cowards. Once Trump is removed from office by means foul/fair, their ability to communicate pseudo-anonymously via Internet will be severely restricted/ended. They will fold like cheap suitcases. A small, atomized minority might actively resist but will have no support. The consequences suffered by this minority will serve as examples to the majority.

    Violence, if it occurs, will primarily be in one direction and won’t extend past the suburbs. Rural conservative-liberal types will be easily managed and readily forced to conform.

    Count on this happening despite the blustering of naysayers.

  24. It seems obvious that the Democrats have been trying to bait out a second Charlottesville with these riots. They were hoping for a proud boy or someone to show up in Portland and go on a shooting spree, but nobody took the bait. The best they got was Rittenhouse, who isn’t any use to them because he’s a chubby goofball who acted in obvious self defense against convicted child rapists trying to attack him. That’s why they have been going on and on about “white supremacist terrorism,” because that was their original plan. It never materialized, but they didn’t really have time to get memos out to change the narrative, so they just kept rolling with it. As a result we get this absurdist spectacle of everyone demanding Trump denounce white supremacist groups despite the complete lack of any “far right terrorism” and leftists burning down their cities for months.

    Also, I think it’s funny that they have been saying for months that every American institution is fundamentally white supremacist, but then ask Trump to denounce white supremacism. He should have taken the opportunity to denounce Joe Biden and the Senate. According to their own narrative of critical race theory, Joe Biden is a member of a white supremacist group, since the US Senate is “steeped in white supremacy” so it technically qualifies as a white supremacist group. That would have really owned the libs.

  25. “Gryphon. I totally agree. It’s comical for a so called nationalist to back Biden who is so owned by blacks now. The old man sold his soul to blacks and planned parenthood.

    It’s so obvious Trump has at least opened a door no Republican in ages has done on a wall, refugees, legal immigration, America First. Yeah, he is part b.s. artist no doubt. But again, where were guys like Bush 1 and 2 on the above issues? McCain? Romney? Dole? Kemp? Or one Republitard Senator after the next? At least a Republican in the future can build off what Trump did.

    Spencer is another of these nationalist guys who has zero nationalist guys warming up in the bullpen to come in. So all they do is bitch and moan with zero potential candidates of their own…”

    @ Jeff:

    Every sane nationalist and every sane religious group is saying hold the line, not abandon ship. This website conveniently forgets that Trump is building the wall despite hitting obstacles through the liberal courts. Trump has inspired an entire generation of future nationalists whether Occidental Dissent wants to admit it or not. This website could literally become the Tucker Carlson of the internet but it insists on defeatist arguments like not voting and waiting for social collapse.

    A lot of people on this site are like a cross between Billy Roper and Richard Spencer. Their world view seems to be shaped by these two men whether they want to admit it or not. Both of these individuals are nuts and clowns.

    What OD also seems to forget is that presidents are far more powerful in their second term than in their first. Obama spent his entire second term in office molding the federal government in his image, Trump can do the same thing and even more.

    People on the left accused Obama of doing nothing for them while he was in office, now he’s their hero. Because they realized that he had fundamentally changed the discourse and government culture in the country through executive order and normalizing cultural-Marxism through his words.

    • Gryphon Alinor,

      You must’ve found your parent’s stash of “brown acid” they brought home from Woodstock because you’re tripping (i.e., hallucinating), if you still believe that we can vote ourselves out of this judaic dystopia.

    • Building a Wall? Why? Mexicans high-tailed it out of here unless they are trapped working under the table with stolen SSNs for GOP companies (including Trump hotels) and farms. They’re living like royalty in Mexico while Trumpers are still talking about a Wall 4 years after he told that lie at rallies.

      Are we even allowed to travel to Mexico? Americans were banned from all but 9 countries a couple months ago.

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