The immediate result of the war and occupation of Afghanistan is a staggering number of zeros. The Taliban is more popular than ever. Twenty years later, al-Qaeda is still at large in the country. New terrorist groups like ISIS-K have been created there which didn’t exist before the invasion. New terrorist groups are being inspired by the American retreat from Afghanistan. America’s geopolitical rivals have been strengthened by our defeat and our alliances around the world have been weakened.
In retrospect, we would have been better off listening to Osama bin Laden and his grievances than the Pentagon, the “intelligence community,” the “journalists” and the neocons. We would have been vastly better off if we had taken the Taliban up on their offer in 2001 to hand over bin Laden and avoided the war. George W. Bush didn’t want to put Osama bin Laden on trial in the court of world opinion for obvious reasons. Osama bin Laden himself predicted in his “Letter To the American People” that Afghanistan would become a quagmire like Vietnam and that we would leave in imperial defeat like the Soviet Union.
Osama bin Laden explained that he was at war with ZOG which was the cause of the 9/11 attacks:
“(i) Palestine, which has sunk under military occupation for more than 80 years. The British handed over Palestine, with your help and your support, to the Jews, who have occupied it for more than 50 years; years overflowing with oppression, tyranny, crimes, killing, expulsion, destruction and devastation. The creation and continuation of Israel is one of the greatest crimes, and you are the leaders of its criminals. …
(iv) These governments have surrendered to the Jews, and handed them most of Palestine, acknowledging the existence of their state over the dismembered limbs of their own people.
(e) Your forces occupy our countries; you spread your military bases throughout them; you corrupt our lands, and you besiege our sanctities, to protect the security of the Jews and to ensure the continuity of your pillage of our treasures. …
(g) You have supported the Jews in their idea that Jerusalem is their eternal capital, and agreed to move your embassy there. With your help and under your protection, the Israelis are planning to destroy the Al-Aqsa mosque. Under the protection of your weapons, Sharon entered the Al-Aqsa mosque, to pollute it as a preparation to capture and destroy it. …
(c) Also the American army is part of the American people. It is this very same people who are shamelessly helping the Jews fight against us. …
(ii) You are the nation that permits Usury, which has been forbidden by all the religions. Yet you build your economy and investments on Usury. As a result of this, in all its different forms and guises, the Jews have taken control of your economy, through which they have then taken control of your media, and now control all aspects of your life making you their servants and achieving their aims at your expense; precisely what Benjamin Franklin warned you against. …
(x) Your law is the law of the rich and wealthy people, who hold sway in their political parties, and fund their election campaigns with their gifts. Behind them stand the Jews, who control your policies, media and economy. …
(7) We also call you to deal with us and interact with us on the basis of mutual interests and benefits, rather than the policies of sub dual, theft and occupation, and not to continue your policy of supporting the Jews because this will result in more disasters for you. …
If the Americans refuse to listen to our advice and the goodness, guidance and righteousness that we call them to, then be aware that you will lose this Crusade Bush began, just like the other previous Crusades in which you were humiliated by the hands of the Mujahideen, fleeing to your home in great silence and disgrace. If the Americans do not respond, then their fate will be that of the Soviets who fled from Afghanistan to deal with their military defeat, political breakup, ideological downfall, and economic bankruptcy.
This is our message to the Americans, as an answer to theirs. Do they now know why we fight them and over which form of ignorance, by the permission of Allah, we shall be victorious?”
Where’s the lie?
Who could have ever predicted that it would end this way? Pretty much anyone who knew anything about 1.) Afghanistan and its history and culture and traditions and 2.) the fickleness of the American people and their appetite for endless wars and occupations.
Do you know what the biggest reason is though that the war ended this way in Afghanistan? We refused to listen and consider the point of view of the people who were fighting against us. We were arrogant, self-righteous and sanctimonious. We were overconfident. We were “the world’s only superpower.” We refused to understand them and their grievances. Instead, we put our confidence in the Pentagon and its bombs and the “intelligence community” which lied us into the other disaster in Iraq.
“The immediate result of the war and occupation of Afghanistan is a staggering number of zeros.”
Oh no, Shlomo-China has already signed big deals. Thank you for your service!
Had the withdrawal occurred in 2040 with literally no deaths, drama or logistical issues, it still would have been tooooo sooon………..and somehow ‘done the wrong way’. The average person doesn’t give a shit about dual citizens who were given four months notice, then left behind, or the Taliban taking back control of its OWN country. We just want our troops OUT!
Trump should have been impeached………..for not doing what he said he was going to do.
Oh no, Shlomo-China has already signed big deals. Thank you for your service!
That’s the big question, really. Have they? There are some indications that Xi and his people have rejected the offer made by the Learned Elders of Wye when they were making their plans for where to loot once their asset-stripping operation of the dumb-assed Murikan goyim was complete. One of their mouthpieces, the spawn-of-Satan known as Soros, has changed his tune 180 degrees in a decade.
10 years ago, he stated that Xi’s China was governed better than Kwa-Bananaland was. That’s actually true since Kwa-Bananaland has been governed by Jews for a century now.
Just this year the same Satanic-spawn remarked that Xi’s China was the “greatest threat to the open society” (Globo-pedo). This could all be deception and disinformation of course, but there is other evidence which seems to indicate Xi has rejected the offer from the “Masters of the Universe” (their own term for themselves).
“there is other evidence which seems to indicate Xi has rejected the offer”:
It appears that Xi and other top leadership are trying to steer China in a different direction than it was heading (toward crashing on the rocks of capitalism) during the Deng years when China took “capitalist roads to a socialist destination.” For a decade or so, even the DPRK (Democratic Republic of Korea) was considering following Deng’s course toward capitalism, but there has been a dramatic shift toward full, explicit socialism lately. Soros knows The East has become skeptical of miracles wrought by the Invisible Hand of laissez faire, and is returning to ethno-national socialism.
Osama bin Laden’s mention of usury is very interesting, he has hit the nail on the head right there.
Here is a long article about the evils of usury: https://theorthodoxlife.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/belloc-on-usury/
Yes, he said to make the US spend itself out of existence.
Mission soon to be accomplished.
He’s up there with any Messianic revolutionary.
Yeah, but Osama Bin Ladin is extremely ugly, a horrible racial mix between Arabs and Black Africans.
OK, so he and the pedophile Islamic prophet apparently had sensible views against (Jewish) usury.
We still can’t let anyone that looks, smells or acts like Osama Bin Ladin, or that Blind Egyptian Cleric with the hook for a hand come live in White societies, can let them get 10 miles within range of a pretty White gal.
Wow – I’m seeing some beautiful White gals in downtown Chicago – Chicago is stunning this time of year. But…. Black and other POC murder and mayhem is always a few blocks away.
The war on terror means the politicians and contractors get rich while the dollar loses it value.
UBL dropping the “Franklin Prophecy” on ZOG. I wasn’t expecting that. He obviously had knowledge and understanding of his enemies.
Kind of yes and know.
This blog has too much Liberal whining that we some how deserve to be terrorized, our women sexually groomed, raped, our once clean European, English, Canadian and Australian cities replaced by these filthy, ugly Afghan, Paki, Algerian tribal/Islamists people for some sin we did against these POC in “Their countries”.
Liberals and Ron Paul Libertarians have been doing this forever – arguing that we did terrible things in Colonialism in India, French Algeria or we aided and abetted the Israeli Zionists against the Palestinians.
Sweden never had an colonies in the Arab/Islamic world, but that doesn’t stop these low IQ Afghans, Pakistanis, Moroccans from flooding in to Sweden and raping the locals, setting up drug trafficking gangs and after the POC migrants are put in prison for drug trafficking they convert to radical Islam and dream of getting 30 White Nordic Swedish virgins in Islamic heaven.
Nope.
“That’s not who we are”.
The best course is to do what Hungary and Poland do now with their nationalists (White) governments.
Neither Poland or Hungary is going to go along Withe American Neo Conservatives/ZIonists to try to colonize any Islamic countries/societies. But they arne’t going to allow many/any Islamic migrants to settle in Poland or Hungary.
Central Europeans remember the Ottoman Turk Muslim occupations where local White girls and boys were taken as SLAVES.
YES, MUSLIMS LIKE TO TAKE WHITE EUROPEANS, WHITE AMERICANS AS SLAVES.
Both the Saudi Arabia Muslims and Israeli Zionists openly refer to us as their White slave warriors.
I don’t know about other OD Readers but I and my fellow White European Americans, White Europeans are not going to agree to be slaves to either the Muslims or the Jews again.
Polish Law and Justice party spokesman told Lib Woke BBC interviewers that Poland would not take 1 Muslim migrant. And if Saudi Arabia or any other Muslims want to build Islamic mosques in Europe, then they have to let Poland and Hungary build Christian cathedrals in Dubai UAE and Saudi Arabia.
In such matters look how White heroes of the past handled this Islamic/Jew problems.
Romanian folk hero Vlad the Impaler Count Dracula apparently took a hard line against Islamic Turk invaders looking to take White Romanian boys and girls as their slaves.
White Catholics back in 15th and 16th century Spain took a winning firm line with both the Muslims and the Jews.