Joe Rogan Interviews Mark Zuckerberg

January 11, 2025 Hunter Wallace Censorship, Conservatism, Culture, Politics, Populists, Progressives, Technology 31

After helping to “fortify” the 2020 election, Zuck and the Jews at Facebook are scrambling to get off the Trump naughty list.

Zuck is taking shots at Biden and Elizabeth Warren, axing DEI at Meta, shifting the blame to the European Union, ditching the “fact checkers” and relaxing censorship.

New York Times:

“At Meta, Mr. Zuckerberg began preparing to change speech policies. Knowing that any moves would be contentious, he assembled a team of no more than a dozen close advisers and lieutenants, including Joel Kaplan, a longtime policy executive with strong ties to the Republican Party; Kevin Martin, the head of U.S. policy; and David Ginsberg, the head of communications. Mr. Zuckerberg insisted on no leaks, the people with knowledge of the effort said.

The group worked on revising Meta’s “Hate Speech” policy, with Mr. Zuckerberg leading the charge, they said. They changed the name of the policy, which lays out what to do with slurs, threats against protected groups and other harmful content on its apps, to “Hateful Conduct.”

That effectively shifted the emphasis of the rules away from speech, minimizing Meta’s role in policing online conversation. Mr. Kaplan and Mr. Martin were cheerleaders of the changes, these people said. …”

I can’t wait to hear from activists why the all powerful Jews are relaxing censorship at Facebook.

“That same day at Meta’s offices in Silicon Valley, Texas and New York, facilities managers were instructed to remove tampons from men’s bathrooms, which the company had provided for nonbinary and transgender employees who use the men’s room and who may have required sanitary pads, two employees said. …”

In order to underscore how desperate they are to change their image, Zuck ordered the removal of the tampons from the men’s restrooms at Meta. Zuck wants to be seen as a MAGA-friendly tech bro now like Elon, Bezos, Thiel and Marc Andreessen. They have all recently gone on Rogan to launder their image.

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30 Comments

  1. This is a joke, relaxing censorship on meaningless things like tampons in the mens room is throwing bones to the patriotards to keep them happy. Lets talk about censorship that REALLY matters, like being able to say supporting AIPAC is treason, or that jews run America, then get back to on censorship.

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  2. Hypocrites are running for cover. The new aged religion of fairness to every body, just doesn’t jive with the indiscriminate killing of innocent women and children in Gaza. It is only temporary.

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  4. “I can’t wait to hear from activists why the all powerful Jews are relaxing censorship at Facebook.”

    Gaza happened.

    None of this is emblematic of Trump’s power. The opposite is true. Jews are just swapping management. All this realignment happened during Gaza. That is why the Democrat party vanished into thin air. The fundamental contradiction of Jews, liberalism, and their brown minions collapsed the entire left and center left. Before Gaza you had the same exact Resistance energy as 2016. Trump was on the ropes. Gaza vaporized the old Jewish liberal coalition. They reverted for now back to whites who are very thirsty for recognition and have proven to be good goyim in the past. They are throwing out “prowhite” bones for the few 2015 stragglers that remain. Jews know that whites don’t matter anymore. Their numbers are demographically doomed and it’s proven impossible to translate insurgent political energy like 2015/2016 into political policy besides meaningless rhetoric. All these based people showed their true colors yet again over the recent H1B debacle.

    Initially I thought Gaza only mattered in the election because it impacted young people. It actually determined the entire election from the top down. Trump won the election in October 2023. Once Jews saw such mass young and brown opposition globally, the recipients of DEI, then bye bye goes DEI and hello again our old 2000’s pro-Israel 9/11 white friends. TRS is wrong about Iran though because the Iranian War was actually the Gaza war. Iran already lost. There is no need to invade because it’s already over. Israel owns the whole middle east. Iran will now melt away in the face of US soft power. The old Jewish playbook will come out. First, feminism will be increased. Then lgbtq. Then, you’re “American.”

    You covered Gaza nonstop for the better part of a year yet you do not seem suspicious.

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    • This is excellent analysis.

      Jews understood that they overstretched. Now they want dump all 50 years of progress progress and rush back into old good safe Reagan era where Jew was only holiness and holocaust was only fact and settled science .

      The good thing is that they can’t. World has changed too much.

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  5. This podcast starts interesting, when it talks about content moderation, but then it rambles and goes on for too long and they talk about a bunch of irrelevant stuff.

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  6. He still reeks of geldenfeltefisch. Will he confess the part about how DARPA handed him their “Life-Log” software just before Zuck “founded” Faceberg? Rogan won’t ask, naturally. Anyone who trusts this worm is a total moron.

    It is kind of interesting that a Rothschild scion seems to be scrambling like a rat escaping a sinking ship. Assuming for a nanosecond it’s not yet more kabuki for the idiocracy, why would someone as rich (or allegedly rich) as the worm is be afraid of the likes of Donald Trump?

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    • Sure makes you wonder huh? Why would a Jew be afraid of zion don the president of israel when jews control everything all the time always and are behind literally everything simultaneously, even on teh sabbath.

      These are the kind of small plot holes in the logic of the JQ that over enough time have made me really question if the JQ is really even relevant anymore. Things have changed a ton in so short a time. Its inevitable that unparsimonious worldviews would be exposed as such.

      Are Jews viscious ethnic chauvanists? Some of them.

      Are Jews inherently contemptuous and mistrustful of White Christians? Many of them.

      Have Jews, largely through generations of nepotism wormed their way into positions of power in all institutions well out of proportion to their demographic representation? Certainly so.

      Are Jews still able to leverage that power openly against White Christian interests like they have been up until even the last couple years? I argue they are in the process of losing that hegemony, as Hunter has alluded to, its inevitable after 80 years muh holocaust doesn’t jerk the tears like it used to, and people are so fed up being told they can’t talk about anything they want to that the vice they’ve had Whiteys balls in for two generations is finally losing grip.

      I do not by any means think we should ever forget what Jews have done, BUT, it is equally important not to be so autistic that we can’t see that they are far from our only enemy, and we are in a spiritual war well beyond their petty ethnic neuroticism.

      WE MUST ADAPT! Whitey is the most industrious and ornery critter that has ever walked upright. We need to go back to those roots. Skepticism, cynicism, ridicule of illegitimate power and authority, sneer in the face of slaves and slavers with equal contempt because we are content to be neither.

      We got our balls back, its time to stop acting like eunuchs and take our fate by the horns again.

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  7. Zero respect for this man that helped censor and persecute when it was convenient for him. Now, like Musk, he “wants” more freedom, but ok the past how many facebook accounts have been closed for him?

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  9. Jewry is not very much a Nation, Jewry is more like crime ring. Criminals stick together on the good times but they have no loyalty for each other in the bad times.

    Stalin destroyed Super Jew Trotsky with the help on other Jews like Zinoviev and Kamenev.
    Then he destroyed Jews Zinoviev and Kamenev with the help of Jew Yagoda and his 35% Jewish NKVD.
    Finally he destroyed NKVD boss Jew Yagoda with the help of low ranking NKVD Jews like Gulag founder and commander Nathan Frenkel and others.

    The Donald operating Jews like Stalin. Jews know this and this is the reason why they are panicked. Donald is the greatest antisemite of all times. First time in history when whole Jewry globally is in ropes. All Jewry previous problems were temporary and local. For example, in the 1930thies Jews faced difficulties in Soviet Union and Germany but were safe and strong elsewhere. Now is the first time in history when Jews have nowhere to run.

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    • I’ve been noting that for years. It’s basically a mafia operating under the color of religion. But this was all knowledge in the older, non-converged version of Christianity regardless of which branch (Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Protestantism). The old ones understood who the Synagogue of Satan is and why they are so completely depraved and evil. As for communism, the Kosher Nosetra used it as a front for their typical endless list of crimes and perversions, with the added benefit that its officially atheist stance served as both a cover for their own Jew supremacism and for indulging in their favorite sport: murdering and defiling Christians and Christianity. No surprise there as it’s simply the natural priority of those who are literal spawn of Satan.

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  11. Here is Asmongold’s take. I’ll keep posting other takes as I find them. I think the response from both sides to what Zuck is doing here is gonna really outline the extent to which the ground has shifted.

    https://youtu.be/MWfOvCBr3gs?si=IcgRGle5YojJFqst

    I disavow Asmongold because he hasn’t openly declared the ultimate importance of the JQ. But he’s at least mostly White. His opinions are interesting. *shrugs*

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  12. It’s a work. Don’t trust them one bit. What a circus. But this will get most of the conservative base all fired up. Social media is a joke for the most part except for maybe Gab.

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  13. Zuckerturd wasn’t all that bad on censorship until various governments including ZUS forced him into the mass Shoah. The only big one that held out longer was Twitter. Jack was a real hero until he lost control to the Jewish/Pajeet alliance on the Board of Directors. For many years Twitter was ten times freer than it ever has been under the Jew Elon Musk.

    I would believe that the Jewish politburo that has been running things in the name of Biden has been forcing the censorship on Zuckerturd hard, backed by very realistic threats of retaliation. So under Trump he will try to relax a bit. Grandma Bessie on her FB feed might be getting some “disturbing content.”.

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  14. Whitney Webb
    @_whitneywebb
    The people who will use this podcast to tell you Zuckerberg has changed and is now ultra-based will also be selling you Meta’s metaverse, just give it a year or two.

    Zuckerberg isn’t and will never be your friend and Facebook/Meta was always an operation of the NatSec state, see here:
    https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/04/investigative-reports/the-military-origins-of-facebook/

    https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/04/investigative-reports/the-military-origins-of-facebook/

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  15. Before Zucc, Jack Dorsey and the Jews at Google all colluded with each other and the Dems in The Deep State I would get 15,000 likes and comments on my meme page on IG. After the 2017 banning of Trump supporters I would get zero to three likes per post. And several accounts deleted with no reason given. I don’t believe Zucc has changed. Don’t trust him at all. He will wait until 6 months before the next election when Trump is on his way out and he will ban us again. The Hunter lap top story alone is reason to put him in prison for life.

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    • Agree. It’s mainly window-dressing to fool idiots. I also think the above post brought up some interesting observations, especially about the collapse of the D-jersey gang in the wake of Gaza.

      Zuckerberg is never going to be anything but an enemy. He has fully earned total destruction. May it come upon him soon. Deus vult!

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  19. I can’t help but interpret all this as a prelude to war.

    The American media machine, from social media to news media to all educational establishments and even the vast majority of church pulpits, are part of a vast Skinner-Box. The dial has been turned to amp up national pride and a ridiculous sort of pop-arrogance. This is required if the people are going to be seriously taxed with a national ordeal.

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  20. There’s a reason why it feels like the internet has gone bad

    A version of this story appeared in CNN Business’ Nightcap newsletter. To get it in your inbox, sign up for free here.

    Facebook is full of AI slop. X is full of “free thinkers” peddling conspiracies. Google’s search results are telling us to eat rocks. More and more, it feels like the internet has gone bad.
    There’s an increasingly popular theory about why: “enshittification.”

    The term, coined in 2022 by the author, journalist and activist Cory Doctorow, refers broadly to the deterioration of services (especially online) as a result of giant companies extracting maximum profits from their customers. In a 2023 essay for Wired, Doctorow laid out the basic arc of enshittification, or the process by which platforms die.

    “First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.”

    In other words: Products are good when they first hit the market, because companies need to lock in as many consumers as they can to achieve the huge scale they desire. Once everyone’s using the product, the company refocuses on creating value for business partners, padding its profit margins and letting the product corrode. Eventually, the company maxes out what it can extract from its business partners, too, and the whole thing fades into obsolescence.

    Once you wrap your head around the idea, you start to see enshittification all around — not only online, but across the economy, in services that have been picked over by private equity (vet clinics, nursing homes, prisons, countless other industries) or in the products peddled by highly concentrated industries. The Australian dictionary Macquarie even crowned it the 2024 word of the year, noting its power to capture “what many of us feel is happening to the world and to so many aspects of our lives at the moment.”

    On Tuesday, shortly after Meta’s CEO announced a widely criticized plan to dispense with fact-checkers, I spoke with Doctorow about the future of social media and how “enshittification” can help us make sense of our collective online angst.

    The following interview has been edited for length and clarity.

    Nightcap: Could you give me your your cocktail-party-level introduction to “enshittification”?

    Cory Doctorow: I think of enshittification as a theory about what happens when you have power without consequence.

    We have increased the power available to large firms for a long time by reducing our antitrust enforcement, allowing mergers, predatory pricing, all the conduct that allows firms to get very big. That’s been across the board, not just with tech.

    Nightcap: What does that look like, in real life?

    Doctorow: There’s a law, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, that makes it illegal to break digital rights management. So for example, if Audible (which is owned by Amazon) sells you one of my audiobooks, they require that it have digital rights management that locks it to Audible’s platform forever — you can’t unlock it, quit Audible and take your books with you.

    And if I give you a tool to jailbreak the audiobook so you can go somewhere else, I commit a felony punishable by a five-year prison sentence and a $500,000 fine.

    So even though I am the rights holder to that work, Amazon, the intermediary who sold you the work, has more intellectual-property rights to that work than I do.

    This is a law that is oriented around allowing these large firms to wield regulation against competitors, against their own workforce and against their users so that they can maintain power. It’s a collapse of discipline — they don’t have to worry about their workers, they don’t have to worry about regulators. And they bought all their competitors.

    Nightcap: Meta would seem like a kind of textbook case of enshittification. Facebook used to feel like a premium service, but the last few years it’s felt like it’s lost the plot.

    Doctorow: Meta is a great example because they go through this pretty neat set of stages… They had this very straightforward value prop, which was like, just tell us who matters to you, and we’ll show you everything they post. And their pitch to the general public was, Facebook is like MySpace, but we won’t spy on you.

    Nightcap: Right, that feels very much like aughts-era Facebook, when we could all just see our friends and enjoy the virtual connection. What changed?

    Doctorow: Facebook at a certain point goes to publishers and says, create a Facebook page, post short excerpts to it, don’t worry about how many people follow you — we’re going to recommend it to users. So we’re going to show users things that they never asked to see in order to take some value away from them and give it to publishers.

    You see the same thing with advertisers. Facebook not only offers to use surveillance data to benefit advertisers in the form of targeting, but they also invest heavily in anti-ad-fraud and in services to advertisers. So if your ads are not performing, they’ll help you figure it out, but also, if someone’s ripping you off, they’ll help you get your money back.

    And so you see the users getting locked in by each other. They’re providing so much value to each other that they can’t bring themselves to leave, even as the service is getting monotonically worse.

    And that’s as far as I think a lot of people take it — “Facebook’s got a mind control ray, they’re hacking your dopamine loops, and you can’t escape Facebook and they’re gonna sell you to advertisers.”

    The evidence for “hacking your dopamine loops” is pretty thin. There’s much better evidence that people just care about their friends more than they hate Mark Zuckerberg, and so they stay there.

    Nightcap: Your theory adds a third step here, where Facebook also turns its back on advertisers, too?

    Doctorow: Right, once the advertisers were fully committed to a Facebook strategy, advertising got way more expensive and the amount of ad fraud you got was crazy. So the advertisers are getting screwed, the publishers are getting screwed, the end users are getting screwed.

    Nightcap: I’m not asking you to look into a crystal ball here, but if you had to speculate, what’s next for Facebook or other decaying platforms?

    Doctorow: Zuckerberg is insulated from the consequences of making bad choices until he’s not, right? Until things reach a breaking point, and then he tends to panic. Tech calls these panics “pivots,” but they’re just the outcome of being the CEO of a company that posts anemic growth or even a contraction in its user base and sees (Wall Street) just go nuts on you.

    First, it was the Metaverse… which is like a not-very-successful video game that they spent billions on. Zuck could do that because he controls the majority of the voting shares and because he had huge cash reserves.

    And now we’re seeing these weird announcements that they’re going to have AI -generated users who are going to interact with you. This is, again, a visibly terrible idea.

    It could be a way to continue to post growth if users will tolerate it. But the equilibrium that Zuck has shot for, with Facebook and with Instagram, has been a service that is nearly so bad that people want to leave.

    The anthropologist danah boyd describes how in the last days of MySpace, she could see how when one person who a lot of people talk to would leave, then a whole bunch of people would follow. It wasn’t the only reason they were there, but it was the last thing keeping them there, and then, boom, the bottom falls out and the net just starts to unravel.

    This is where Facebook is. They are trying to maintain this equilibrium where they extract enough that they keep their shareholders happy, but not so much that people leave. They’re now at the end of a long run of extremely bad choices. I’m not shorting Meta stock, but I think that they are on the path to becoming a kind of zombie — something like MySpace is today. You know, MySpace still exists. You can go to MySpace. It’s just AI-generated slop and and spam.

    (Note: Meta didn’t respond to Nightcap’s request for comment.)

    Nightcap: How are you feeling about the future of tech?

    Doctorow: In terms of the future of enshittification, these platforms that have hollowed themselves out, where there’s just no value left in them except this kind of awful lock-in. It’s the old “we go broke a little, and then all at once.”

    I do think there is reason to be hopeful. As a science fiction writer, I know that prediction is a mug’s game. But as an activist, I’m like, well, you take the weakest flank where you can make the biggest strategic advance, and you march on that flank. And there are a lot of weak flanks in global big tech.

    I’d say the last one is the potential for an alliance between people who are angry about other kinds of monopolies, because it’s not just tech — people are really angry about grocery monopolies and oil monopolies, sea freight monopolies, eyeglass monopolies. One company, EssilorLuxottica, owns every eyewear brand you’ve ever heard of and every eyewear store you’ve ever shopped at, and they make more than 50% of the lenses, and they own EyeMed, the largest insurer in the world, and they’ve raised the price of glasses 1,000% in the last decade.

    (EssilorLuxottica didn’t respond to Nightcap’s request for comment.)

    So people are pissed off about monopolies. And if they can make a coalition, it’ll be like when we discovered the word “ecology” in the ’70s — we realized that just because you care about owls and I care about the ozone layer, it doesn’t mean we’re not caring about the same thing. Every time you see the world change all of a sudden, it’s because a new coalition has popped up.

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  22. A jew MP of the labour party in the UK was arrested for pedophilia three days ago, thought all you “nationalist” would want to know

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  23. Back in Drumpf’s first term, there was a pretty formidable alt right corner on not just Twitter and Facebook but very much on Instagram. . It was this social media sphere, along with the media/govt’s blatant corruption and misrepresentation of Cville, that introduced me to WN politics. Some called this the “libertarian to fash pipeline.” But things just made a lot of sense the more I dove down that rabbit hole. I’m off social media now, but I’ll always look fondly on those days. Some of those memes were just downright legendary. I mean outrageously hysterical and insightful.
    Great times, truly.

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