Why “Judeo-Christian” Is A Heresy pic.twitter.com/NO3GQyOpE3
— Joel Webbon (@rightresponsem) March 14, 2025
This is an interesting article which was shared in the comments.
“There has been increased interest in Christian nationalism since Trump has taken office, this being the idea that America, if not the West, is based upon Christian values and principles. [1] Many who do not believe in the traditional theological doctrines associated with Jesus Christ, still hold to cultural Christianity, that regardless of the theology, the values and principles are the most important social glue for the coherence of society, a position held by Elon Musk for example. [2] One important spin-off debate arising from this social movement is the relationship between White racial survivalist movements, and Christianity. Thus, it has been noted by committed Catholic, E. Michael Jones that “White unity is incompatible with Christianity.” [3] As Brett Stevens says: “In his view, universal Christian morality mandates the inclusion of diversity, even if this leads to the destruction like Christ on the Cross of Western Civilization.” [4]
In this article I will also argue that Christianity is a form of universalism, and as such is incompatible with White racialism. Ideally it should be replaced with a more suitable racial religion, or simply the worship of Western civilisation itself and the White race. But Christian nationalists are not to be made into sworn enemies, and there are far greater dangers from neo-liberalism, transnational capitalism, wokeness and globalism. This “live and let live” strategy will be suggested for mutual cooperation in fighting common foes rather than each other, at least until common enemies are defeated. This is a departure from the usual critics of Christianity who see it as an evil doctrine designed for White enslavement, at least of the mind. [5] After we save the White race, we can sort this one out. …
It is concluded that Christianity is fundamentally flawed as a cognitive position, and given the rational nature of Euro-Whites, cannot serve as a racial religion for us. As well, Christianity has universalism coiled in its heart, and in the right socio-cultural context, these racially destructive seeds will grow into the monstrous mutant we have today. While it is true that there are counter-traditions to Christian cosmopolitanism, as detailed by Andrew Fraser, this indicates that the Christian doctrine and tradition, embraces deep inconsistencies. This too is far from satisfactory. It is far better to operate with a White racialist movement, which takes as its core element of faith, the cultures and traditions of the White race, and puts that as the fundamental value by which everything must be measured, including the cult of Jesus. But realistically that is not going to occur, and Christian nationalists will stand their ground regardless of reason and evidence. At this late stage of the game, it is not worth the emotional energy to battle them, given the more dangerous globalist Leftist enemies, and transnational capitalism itself, that are threatening the White race with extinction. Hopefully Christians can embrace one more doctrine such as ordo amoris, and put the White race first, and get on with the battle for racial survival, however inconsistent.
Just let “Jesus” sort it all out down the track, after we win this race war!”
As a White Christian Nationalist, I have considered this thoughtful argument. I have dismissed it outright because the subject of history and reproduction never even comes up.
The idea that Christianity is incompatible with White racial survival is hilarious. The population of Europe grew from about 45 million people at the peak of the Roman Empire to 83 million when Christopher Columbus discovered the New World in 1492. There were twice as many Europeans at the dawn of the Early Modern Era as there were at the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
From 1492 until 1950, which was when Third World immigration began to Europe, the population of Europe expanded from 83 million to 500 million. There were 751 million people in Europe in 2018, not all of whom are White, but there are still significantly more White people in Europe today than there was in 1950. There are 204 million White Americans. There are 105 million White men in the United States alone which is twice as many White people as existed in Europe at the peak of Rome. There are 24 million White people in Canada, 14 million in Australia and 3.5 million people in New Zealand. The White population of Canada, Australia and New Zealand in 2025 is greater than the population of Europe at the time of the fall of the Roman Empire. There are millions of more White people who live in Latin America.
Christianity is so incompatible with White survival that Europeans conquered nearly the entire world under Christianity with only a handful of exceptions like Ethiopia (itself Christian) and Japan. White Christians conquered and settled North America, South America, Africa and Australia. Just from an archaeological standpoint, the graves of White people can be found all over the world. The cultural artifacts of White Christians can be found on all continents including even Antarctica. No human culture in history has been as demographically successful in spreading across the world as White Christians.
If I had the time, which unfortunately I don’t because I have to get to work, I could respond to this in much greater detail. The very idea that race is a meaningful source of identity was created by White Christians, not by atheists or agnostics, and certainly not by pagans. It was mainly a byproduct of the European Christian expansion into Africa and the New World and specifically the European Christians who colonized the New World – starting with the Spanish and Portuguese, who expelled Jews and Muslims from Spain on racial grounds in the 16th century after failing to convert them – but later developed further by other groups like my Anglo-Protestant ancestors who settled the American South and who expelled the Creek Indians from the very ground on which I now sitting here responding to this article. The conversion of Jews and non-Whites to Christianity didn’t change their immutable hereditary racial characteristics. This is how the modern concept of race in the first place.
The idea that race is real and White identity is meaningful is part of my own White Protestant identity, culture and heritage which is why it resonates with me. We had a racial caste system and anti-miscegenation laws that governed interactions between the races for three centuries. That is also where this actually comes from, not from some made up “racial religion,” which is just a transparent attempt to find a new justification for old beliefs. In the South, our traditional racial values were only temporarily suppressed by “antiracism,” which was imposed on us by victorious liberals after World War II, which in the long eye of history was just yesterday. My grandparents saw the Civil Rights Movement. Compare this to the Greeks and Hungarians who lived under the Ottoman yoke for centuries.
The people who like to argue that Christianity is incompatible with White survival … are often themselves the descendants of White Christian settlers. Personally, I know my ancestors were White Christians. My grandmother had 7 siblings. My mother-in-law had 8 siblings. This was the normal demographic pattern in the South two or three generations ago. My wife has kin all over southeast Missouri. It is why I have kin all over southeast Alabama, north Florida and southern Georgia. My demographically successful White Christian ancestors created a thriving civilization here which I would like to preserve and continue. The fact that the Gospel was shared with black people who have their own black churches was no impediment to the survival of the White race. It just made them and us more civilized.
The much more interesting question is whether atheism, agnosticism and secularism is compatible with White racial survival. White demographic collapse is driven by irreligiosity all over the world. White people who adopt a secular or atheist perspective on religion also heavily skew toward leftwing universalist antiracist beliefs. At least in this country, it is White evangelical Protestants who have children and who feel threatened by demographic change, which is why they supported Trump. The overwhelming majority of secular Americans are too inwardly focused on selfishness and narcissism to care about the White race. It is only the most extreme outliers who end up embracing a racialist political perspective.
It is true that White Europeans are facing a severe demographic crunch – the crisis is being driven by secular White people with liberal beliefs who have low fertility, not by their White Christian peers or their own ancestors. A microcosm of the difference can be seen in the White Nationalists who criticize Christian Nationalists. The Christian nationalist is usually almost always a married Protestant or Catholic with children. The White Nationalist is typically single, childless and irreligious.
The survival of the White race depends on the private reproductive decisions of White couples – full stop. It does not turn on any abstract philosophical question of ethical universalism vs. particularism vs. relativism. I already have two children with a third on the way next month. White evangelical Protestants tend to have 15% to 20% more children than White Americans in general. The most fertile White people in America are groups like the Mormons and the Amish. The White demographic crisis is a reflection of apostasy. White Europeans left the faith of their ancestors and now they choose not to reproduce.
You exist because your White Christians ancestors believed in the future. If you don’t have any descendants, it is probably because of something you believe.
Note: If you believe Jews are why haven’t had children or why you shouldn’t engage in political activity, this might explain your lack of success in relationships and politics.
Makes sense .
Just understand the current worst ever Pope Francis is as bad as the worst Tim Wise Jew “ anti racist “ / “ anti White “
The latest LDS ( “don t call us Mormons anymore , that was RACIST”) prophet is 93 years old , LDS pols such as Muttebs Romney , Egg NcMuffin are as bad as the worst Immigration Jews – they love mass Indian IT immigration .
Episcopalian Church of England in England and Washington DC … I take it others saw that Episcopal Lesbian Bishop in true National cathedral trying to lecture President Bush about BLM, Trannies etc
We need to do like El Salvador did .. don t let any ha White Libs , Communists hide under a Christian collar .
NS cosplay isn’t the answer.
The profusion of Christian chaos isn’t the answer.
Libtard social anti-reality isn’t the answer.
Where does that leave people who want social and individual advancement ?
The problem of Europe today is that we have a lot of invaders.
National Socialism is my religion.
Adolf Hitler is my God.
He is the way and the truth and the light.
I shall not have any other gods before him.
Finally, an honest comment!
Your a cuck and an intellectual fraud
Obviously, the White race should have perished a long time ago because Christianity is incompatible with our survival. You shouldn’t be here
Excellent take and rebuttal to this article HW.
“But Christian nationalists are not to be made into sworn enemies, and there are far greater dangers from neo-liberalism, transnational capitalism, wokeness and globalism. This “live and let live” strategy will be suggested for mutual cooperation in fighting common foes rather than each other, at least until common enemies are defeated. This is a departure from the usual critics of Christianity who see it as an evil doctrine designed for White enslavement, at least of the mind. [5] After we save the White race, we can sort this one out.”
The author seems awful confident that a fringe group can just defeat the Christian Nationalists after “we save the White race.” I’m doing my part with a bunch of beautiful White kids while these types typically don’t even have a wife let alone kids. I don’t think these types understand what kind of Hank Jr Crusader types we are down here. “I got a shotgun, rifle and a four wheel drive and a country boy can survive.” Deo Vindice!
The key to the survival of the White race being a made up religion with no followers is a perennial theme in the movement. It is up there with creating “NS” parties which do not engage in political activity
Great response. Too many of these people seem to never read history. White identity just somehow happened without any past, until these guys came up with it???
White identity didn’t exist until “NS.” Lol
The collapse of White families, the collapse of marriage, the low White birth rate is due to feminism. Women say they don’t need a man. It’s true that they don’t. So 50% of marriages end in divorce. Divorce is initiated by women 80% of the time. New marriages are at an all time low. I went to my daughter‘s sixth grade graduation ceremony. They had all the children come up to the microphone and talk about what they wanted to be when they grow up. Every single girl in the classroom wanted a high-powered professional career. Not one of them said she wanted to be a mom.
Feminism is two ideas – liberalism and modernism, one a political worldview, the other an aesthetic – applied to women.
“The fact that the Gospel was shared with black people who have their own black churches was no impediment to the survival of the White race. It just made them and us more civilized.”
The 2020 census per Wikipedia shows that Eufala, Alabama is minority White. It’s odd to say that White Protestants are responsible for the entirety of the past but so little of the present and future. Were the foundations they laid that weak?
“The survival of the White race depends on the private reproductive decisions of White couples – full stop.”
If the state has no bearing upon White survival, why engage with the fandom culture surrounding Donald Trump?
1. My hometown in the Alabama Black Belt has always been roughly 50/50. What has changed in recent years is the gigantic influx of Hispanic illegal aliens. The cause of that is White libtards in other parts of the country who support open borders.
2. State power can be used to flood the country with non-Whites and that is supported by White liberals in this country and really all Western countries.
You weak cuck!!
A. I. (Apostate idolatry)
MARCH 14, 2025 AT 4:09 PM
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Christianity is a jewish created fairytale! (Kosher disclosure Titus 1:14!)
The White demographic crisis is a reflection of the apostasy of worshipping a Jewish fictional man and claiming he is a god (really an Egregore, ie. a shared false mind virus creating a collective mind of the infected (ie. NPC’s/Borg’s) and a COLLECTIVE entity not of blood, ie. Kinship nation!!
The God’s are supra-essential (ie. They are not of any essence but are existential and each is particular unique!)
Furthermore jewish Christianity is waging war on blood racial nationhood (just accept the blood of the Jewish Egrigore and your “saved” (from race and nation!!) and ethnicity.
For the jewish monotheism is the possession “soul” of one global religion and one global government (ie.
Monarchical monotheist man-god theocracy! (Not possible with polycentric polytheism which ain’t atheism but quite the opposite as you worship a jewish created MAN character in their not so holy book, the idol of your Egrigore non-blood based “Christian misnomered “nationalism”!!!
Your FOS Norman!!
Ok.
The truth is that you are a crank and a walking advertisement against becoming excessively antisemitic.
The truth is that people like you are nuts and make us look bad which is why your comments are discarded.
The truth is that you are such a poor and low IQ advocate for your own position that it is charitable to censor you because you make people who are aware of Jewish influence and who believe it is a problem look bad by association.
That’s the truth.
The Christian thing to do is to keep you locked in the spam filter because you are an embarrassment who wastes our bandwidth.
@Post the truth. Lots of words which make absolutely no sense. You quote scripture but obviously don’t understand it AT ALL. Again, why are you even here… on this site? Go back to the basement and have your mom make you some meatloaf. “Ma the meatloaf!” Loser!
He posts the same autistic nonsense every day. Normally, I just send it to the spam filter because the guy is obviously a kook.
Congratulations on the child on the way.
Your rejoinder doesn’t directly address the problem of the universality of Christianity. Your three children can still be demographically displaced by massive immigration.
In the interest of clarity, what would you say to a Christian who insisted on non-white immigration because we are all one in Christ?
Would you allow African Christians to move here?
Why is that a problem?
The argument was that Christianity is incompatible with White racial survival. If that were the case, then White people would have perished thousands of years ago, and there wouldn’t be hundreds of millions of more White people in the world than there were when the Roman Empire fell. White people wouldn’t have colonized other continents or gone to the moon and the author of the article wouldn’t exist.
America was almost 90% White in the 1960s. Europe was homogeneous. There were laws in all European countries designed to keep it that way. Australia had the White Australia policy. South Africa had apartheid. The South had Jim Crow. All of these policies and laws were designed to control immigration were created by Christians. Europe colonized Africa and India when it was Christian, not the other way around.
It is true that liberal European elites who have rejected Christianity have flung open the borders and invited non-Whites to flood in. I’m not sure why apostates see this as the fault of Christianity. In this country, it is Christians who support rightwing nativist movements, and it is atheists who are leftist open borders fanatics. The White people who support the Democratic Party are disproportionately irreligious.
White racial survival is endangered by the Christian charities that focus on immigration, whom I assume would justify their actions with Christianity.
Do you really believe that you don’t need an answer to the question that I posed?
I agree.
Those NGOs are corrupt government contractors who were recently defunded by the Trump administration.
As a Christian, I voted for Trump to end the refugee resettlement program although I agree with Trump that an exception should be made for White South African farmers
If only White Christians were able to vote, the whole immigration system could be reformed tomorrow.
Your deluded…
Years ago, I traveled around the South protesting refugee resettlement. Today, Trump’s base agrees with me and Trump himself defunded the refugee program but carved out an exception for White farmers in South Africa. White Christian Nationalists believe in winning at politics
Catholics are not Christians. The NGO’s are overwhelmingly Catholic.
Imagine how much further along Whites would be if Christians didn’t fight over whose sect of Jesus Worship was the best or fight over religion at all. It would be comical if it wasn’t so detrimental to the White race. You guys just constantly prove the point that because of your petty differences Christian Nationalism is a dead end.
It is easy to imagine.
Just subtract White Christians from who voted in the last election and you would see how far it would set back Whites
Subtract irreligious Whites from who voted in the last election. This would be an even better illustration.