Axios: Israel Urges U.S. To Join War With Iran

June 15, 2025 Hunter Wallace Conservatism, Foreign Policy, Geopolitics, Iran, Israel, Politics, Populists, World 21

This happened yesterday.

As of last night, the answer was still no.

I believe this is the first time in history that Israel was told we weren’t going to fight their wars. I am also not optimistic that the Trump administration or Congress will hold out indefinitely. Even if Trump puts the brakes on this, it won’t stop Mike Johnson and John Thune in the House and Senate.

Axios:

“Israel has asked the Trump administration over the past 48 hours to join the war with Iran in order to eliminate its nuclear program, according to two Israeli officials.

The big picture: Israel lacks the bunker buster bombs and large bomber aircraft needed to destroy Iran’s Fordow uranium enrichment site, which is built into a mountain and deep underground. The U.S. has both within flying distance of Iran. …

A White House official denied that on Friday. A second U.S. official confirmed on Saturday that Israel has urged the Trump administration to join the war, but said currently the administration is not considering it. …”

The vibe that I am getting from the Trump administration is that a casus belli is needed.

The Trump administration is willing to go to war with Iran, but the politics of doing it both within Trump’s own base and in the country at large are so dicey that we need Iran to make the first move. We need the Mossad to launch some type of false flag attack on American forces … a Pearl Harbor or “Remember the Maine” type incident that can used to close ranks around the flag and the president.

Israeli propaganda is backfiring and has failed badly to move the needle and drum up public support for the war. MAGA is shifting in the opposite direction and is becoming more skeptical of Israel.

Note: This is a very disturbing report from Antiwar.com.

21 Comments

    • I agree.I say that all the time.Why do the Jews get to murder with impunity?They are demons and have the power of Hell behind them,that is why.But God will make them pay forever.

      Reply

      • Even better than the power of Hell, they have the power of blackmail, bribery and extortion. See Herr Epstein for details as to how that works.

        Any day now, any day, perhaps after the Big Beautiful Bill becomes law, perhaps in the year 2125, the Epstein VHS tapes, DVDs, photographs, audio cassettes etc. and the rest of the blackmail material the FBI is guarding will be released, maybe.

        Just kidding. There will be a tragic fire in the FBI’s fireproof vault the day before they were going to release everything. The lesson will be: be careful where you throw your cigarette butt, even if you don’t smoke.

        The vast majority of members of Congress are the scum of the earth, exceptions like Thomas Massie noted. They were loathsome scumbags long before they entered politics. They were corrupt as Hell from the beginning, that is why they entered politics. It’s like a playground for that type of person. No one retires from Congress poor.

        Unfortunately the electorate, especially people who are decent, honest, hard working, trustworthy people believe it’s Congress that corrupts the man, not the other way around. It would be like saying the alcoholic who stumbled into a barroom, already drunk, was made an alcoholic by the barroom. The order of cause and effect are important to know.

        Reply

        • It would be foolish to assume that Epstein was and is the only Mossad child pimp out there. I imagine the West is riddled with pedophiles at all levels of public office and influence and Mossad has people servicing/surveilling them.

          Reply

  2. This is why Americans knowing the story of the USS Liberty is still important, this monstrous little state is willing to do anything and everything to drag us into war. No War for isreal.

    Reply

  3. >The Trump administration is willing to go to war with Iran

    Good that you acknowledge this.

    >We need the Mossad to launch some type of false flag attack on American forces … a Pearl Harbor or “Remember the Maine” type incident that can used to close ranks around the flag and the president.

    A false flag is very likely but there is alot more awareness now of this strategy. I expect that if it happens you will even see rightwing propagandists spinning it as a mossad operation with no american involvement.

    Reply

  4. @Hunter Wallace,

    I am not too worried about the US getting involved. Although it is possible and we need to prepare ourselves to react politically if it happens. I know you will withdraw support from Trump. I on the other hand will continue my support. But, I don’t think it will come to that. If it does it will be limited to surgical air power strikes to completely obliterate the remnants of Iran’s nuclear program and its Mullah leadership.

    The Administration knows the risks of direct involvement are worse than indirect involvement. IMHO, the Israelis strike against the backdrop of negotiations by Trump will go down in history as one of the great feats of diplomatic brickmanship. Essentially, we allowed a proxy to punish a recalcitrant trouble making bunch of Mullahs trying to build a Muzzie Bomb and upend the balance of power in the Middle East.

    Meawnhile, we still can negotiate with the Iranians. Its in their interests to do so. The Iranians aren’t stupid Sand N@ggers. They are merely half brees Sand N@ggers. They are kind of like Sicilian and Lebanese and Armenians. They can be strong headed but will recognize defeat and a potential better future thru negotiations. This was the point of Trump’s negotiations. He’s about results not following rules based processing like a numbsckull.

    Either the Iranians will dismantle their Muzzie Bomb, allow full scale international controlled and limited nuclear research, AND Iran stops its covert action, or the US-Israeli alliance will destroy utterly the Mullah regime. They will do it in a manner that keeps America’s hands clean, Israel’s involvement limited, but will assuredly destroy the Islamic Republic. The Iranians have a suffered a tremendous setback and it follows similar strikes including the recent Ukrainian strike into Russia. The world is on notice!

    Large numbers of Israeli and Israeli allied SPECOP teams entered Iran, infiltrated nearby targets, and launched hundreds of surgically precise drones, snipers and direct assault attacks on scores of politico-military leaders, Comlinks, scientists, engineers, etc and ELIMINATED the Iranian military-industrial leadership and critically weakened its political leadership. This was combined with attacks in Iranians command and control and air defenses. The Israelis now habe air superiority over Iran. But for Trump, they would have hit the Mullahs, directly, an attack I’ve long advocated, at least at the lower end. Trump however said that was too far.

    The Trump Administration does not want to get directly involved in Iran and or see a wider regional war. The methods and means of the Israeli attack contradistinctly make it less likely a regional war will occurr. Simultaneously, it critically wounded if not terminally Iran’s nuclear program. It paralyzed its military leadership, reduced its strategic strike capabilities, blew apart its military industrial leadership, and threw the regime into chaos. The succession of setbacks Iran has had has left it in the distinct possibility of being overthrown as the Iranian people have long chuffed over the generations of Mullah controls and sacrifices over regional ambitions that leave nothing but dust. 

    Meanwhile, like the cat in Alice in Wonderland, Trump smiles and offers out his hand to negotiate. Trump has out mafia donned the Mullahs. Its the most brilliant display of joint diplomatic, intelligence, military, capabilities I’ve seen yet. It eclipses even events that happened earlier in my life at the sunset of the old Soviet Cold War. This is the new age if war and the US with Israel and Ukraine has shown the way forward.

    The United States has always had great capabilities. What it has lacked is great leadership. The last 25 years of various small wars and growing competition with China and Russia as seasoned a large cadre of operators, supervisors, managerial and senior level leadership. Now we have a growing class of political leaders like Trump and Vance capable of articulating and implanting a political strategy to back up thise joint operations. Hunter, this is a WIN! The Anti-War fear mongering isn’t necessary. Try to look at it thru my lense. Then think of a response on how to deal with our side which will be more forward moving. The current posturing you are doing is unnecessary and is limiting. There is no longer any need to placate NS Fandom and Buchanan’s neo-isolationism is already obsolete in light of the growth of threats he saw decades ago. I dont think he would be so isolationist today. To and the old man is unlikely to speak publicly again.

    Reply

    • The US government itself recently admitted that Iran is not building a nuclear bomb, and Pakistan already has a “Muzzie bomb”. Jew liars have been fearmongering about an Iranian bomb for forty years. Maybe it is time for YOUR shitass country to sign the NPT and allow nuclear inspections.

      Reply

    • You know AGB, everyone says you’re Mossad or IDF, but I think you’re just a genuine neo-con who loves to see any greenlight to kill.

      Reply

    • @Aryan Globalist Bro and Joe Miner NYC

      Hasbarat, Mossad or IDF makes no difference. No matter how much or how hard AGB and his ilk try to astro-turf enthusiasm from “Christian Zionist Evangelicals” for another war to help Muh Israel to defend itself, there is absolutely NO SUPPORT from the vas majority of Americans to fund/finance a war with Iran!

      I was watching an old eye-opening interview with the hysterics of Sean Hannity who was screeching Mark Levin’s talking points at Pat Buchanan who scoffed at them and, besides suspecting that Hannity must have a lot of MIC stocks, it suddenly occurred to me:

      Israel and its neo-con American cheerleaders waving their war pom-poms never even TALKED about invading/attacking Pakistan (who was actively helping Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda after Bush launched his War on “Terror”). Discussions about attacking North Korea have never even been on the table during any administration, especially after William Jefferson “Bubba” Clinton’s, and North Korea has never been remotely pro-America.

      Which proves one thing to me. Iran was telling the truth throughout all of Bibi Netanyahu’s Attack Iran drum-beating in the United States and in Clowngress. Iran has no nukes. We DON’T ATTACK countries with nukes. As Libya proved, we DO ATTACK countries we have conned into giving up their nukes, but not those who haven’t.

      Iran probably STILL doesn’t have any nukes, but they do have great numbers of missiles with bombs they can arm that further weaken the Golden Dome American taxpayers were forced to pay for. They can and will utilize these missiles like the Allies firebombing Tokyo (before Hiroshima and Nagasaki offered Hirohito a face-saving way to surrender) during WWII. Dresden proved THERE’S NO NEED FOR NO STINKING NUKES!

      Disclaimer: not an intelligence agent with any inside information. Just a history buff who is aware how all people are very ingenious and creative when it comes to killing each other.

      I like to listen to Mark Levin’s rants all the time because occasionally, he blurts out some inconvenient truth. One of which was that, if we had the internet with its independent fact-finders and journalists, the Allies (or Jewish propaganda) wouldn’t have “won” WWII. Want to add OR WWI, for that matter. Because after every CASUS BELLI offered to involve the USA, they’d be finding out CUI BONO.

      Too many USS Liberty sailors survived Israel’s LAST false flag to get the USA to attack Egypt and are still alive to make any future ones go smoothly. I thank God Almighty for that great Black American Patriot’s Candace Owens’s PSA with one of them which has gone viral. That a false flag is being orchestrated by the Usual Suspects to give Trump a face-saving out with his MAGA base to attack Iran is openly being discussed on X, TikTok, and other discussion boards all over the internet means that WHEN “Iran” attacks the USA or its bases, NO ONE IN THE WEST will blame IRAN.

      I suspect Trump (who naively believed that Israel would be FINE with him if, with his Abraham Accords, he could dangle enough profit-driven incentives for Iran to join them and drop their whole Death to the Big and Little Satan themes) were ambushed by the MIC, Israel and its Sayanim in the Deep State.

      Trump’s demeanor is nowhere NEAR that of a confident Commander in Chief who’s large and in charge. His expression is defeated. He has lost so much swagger that he has joined Biden in tripping UP the stairs of Air Force One. He looks old and tired. I saw that when he had his joint birthday/Army anniversary parade where he had to confront his lying eyes about our own military readiness.

      Aside from their elite forces, most of our volunteer military is horribly out of shape, reflecting the impact of DECADES of Anti-White (MALE, in particular) Bashing from the likes of Noel Ignatiev in Academia and Job Discrimination authorized by the likes of Black Rock Corporations own Larry Fink.

      STEM Majors and other mid-level management positions being filled by Hindus did NOT create enough of a recession (as hard as you tried) for young White men trying to maintain a middle-class life to enlist, did it? You didn’t see tons of White parents driving their sons to military recruiters, did you?

      You honestly think getting Trump back in to roll back DEI and CRT and a few silly “Go, Army” commercials featuring Stale, Pale Males (just chock full of and brimming over with Toxic Masculinity) jumping out of airplanes and high-fiving each other is going to reverse that overnight?! No way, Jose, which is ANOTHER reason why Trump saw the necessity of negotiating with Iran and Russia.

      The big blowhard does himself a total disservice by trying to say that he was IN on his own ambush, erroneous believing that, to say otherwise would be to openly admit that the Great and All Powerful Orange Oz has still not vanquished the Deep State. Silly boy, with all this lawfare and Judicial “Review,” NO ONE with working eyes and ears, even in the most ardent and fanatical Trump-loving MAGA faction believes that.

      Trump made several missteps during his last campaign by promising no more wars to the American public. There are no endless wars; there ARE endless POLICE ACTIONS. Trump can put a stop to Netanyahu’s Nonsense PDQ by NOT allowing another police action.

      Papa Bush wasn’t smart enough to just let Saddam Hussein keep Kuwait (who started it by drilling into Iraqi oil fields) and thus be the buffer the West needed to keep both the Iranian Shia and Saudi Wahabis in check. But he WAS smart enough to know that a POLICE ACTION calls for the “Peace Officer” to handle the incident and leave ASAP. Not so Baby Bush who declared his War on “Terror” WITHOUT a formal declaration from Congress, enabling his opponent, John “Swift Boat” Kerry with his four Purple Heart medals, to say he voted for it before he voted against it.

      I believe Trump’s hand is being forced by Bibi Netanyahu’s allies in “intelligence” and the MIC to go in after Iran starts handing Israel its ass courtesy of its NON-NUCLEAR WMD. And Bibi is pretty confident that his multiple “Epsteins” have so much compromising child-molesting videos on our Clowngress Critters to have them enthusiastically go along. Until they can all pull a Kerry for the mid-terms.

      Trump has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO LOSE in by actively allowing Washington’s own inertia (fueled by timid, pants-wetting politician’s fear of losing office) HELP him for a change. After “Iran” attacks us, Trump needs to go to Clowngress and ask for a formal declaration of war as well as the reinstitution of a military draft which has not been in effect for over fifty years. PIN THAT TAIL on AIPAC! Then kick back, pop a nice, cold DIET COKE to have with some hot, buttered popcorn and enjoy the fireworks.

      Reply

  5. False flag time! No need for a big bang back home. With US troops stationed all over the Middle East, quite easy for the Mossad, CIA or Mossad + CIA to stage a false flag.

    Reply

  6. Oh dear.

    I’m afraid we’d have to look way back to the 1970s and early 1980s to find any ha White, heterosexual GOP anything remotely “Conservatives” that openly opposed Israel, AIPAC, the J Neo Cons.

    See Illinois Congressman Rep. Paul Finley “They Dare Speak Out” book about the Israeli Lobby.

    I personally met ex Congressman Paul Finley and his charming wife in Nashville TN ~ 1991 when I was running a one man “America First” anti White campaign against then President Bush Sr’s first Patriotard War in Iraq against SADDAM HUSSEIN who was supposedly another Hitler and well, America was the leader of the Free World, also working with the United Nations to make a New World Order #*$&@Q.

    I see that now Unemployed former Indiana Governor, Trump I’s Christian ZIonist stiff Mike Pence is still shilling to get us to jump in to another fun war for Israel because…

    “We’re the leader of the Free World”… blah, blah blah.

    Mike Pence’s gaffe that the collapse of our Southern Border, Chicago and other cities falling down in to BLM, Black criminal anarchy was:

    “That’s not my concern”… that pretty much ended Mike Pence’s political career – but someone he still gets to appear on Cable News, Fox News same as other Christian Zionists , Indian Dot/Christian Zionist Niki Haley, Mike the Huckster Huckabee he’s now the US Ambassador to Israel.

    Sigh.

    It’s days like these that I often feel our ha White Americans might not deserve to survive our people are so ($$*#@ Stupid to elect, enable these stiff, prostitutes.

    Looks like it could be another stock market free fall tomorrow. I hope our readers are prepared.

    Look at the bright side, the powers that be are brining back USFL pro Amurikun football so there Will soon be be 12 months a year of Amurikun tackle football distractions.

    Reply

  7. ‘The vibe that I am getting from the Trump administration is that a casus belli is needed.’

    Another 911 in the making.

    Reply

    • Exactly what I thought. I guess they “survived” a war that killed millions of White Europeans who weren’t so lucky — between 6 and 8 million Germans, alone. And being the alleged foundation of current-day jewish privilege, they have obviously had the most pampered and protected lives in human history. It’s absurd at this point.

      Reply

  9. The false flag provocations have already started.

    ‘Great threat’ Iran was behind two assassination attempts on President Trump, Israeli PM claims in bombshell interview.
    Nypost

    The great deceivers are already at it, trying to suck America into their fight.

    Reply

  10. This has been all planned out. No intervention is going to be forthcoming by Trump or the UN. Trump will block any UN resolution. The fight will shift from an early Israeli advantage to Iran gaining strength and momentum over time. Then the jew leader tells Trump, we are losing, we are going to lose, either you help us or we are going to use nukes. And Trump does what? I would eat a bullet now if I were Trump. He has had a good life. It is over.

    Reply

  11. I hope Trump holds firm but I’m not betting the farm on it. The pressure to get involved must be enormous. AIPAC doesn’t invest in politicians for laughs.

    Reply

  13. Iran, which has since 1979 aided the US against the Soviet Union, aided the US against the Taliban, aided the US against Saddam, aided the US against ISIS, and sold out its allies (Assad, Nasrallah, Hamas, Iraqi Shia, Bahraini Shia, Houthis, etc) for favor and mercy, now finds itself at the end of the line. There were smarter and tougher men in Iran, like Ahmadinejad, who wanted to confront Iran’s enemies in a straightforward and nonconciliatory manner. But they couldn’t prevail against clerics who are more adept at debating scriptural jurisprudence (what really constitutes breaking a fast tho??) than they are at geopolitical jungle survival. The “Axis of Resistance” is OVER! Eretz Yisrael on the horizon.

    Reply

Leave a Reply to jaye ryan Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published.


*