Yoram Hazony: What Winning Looks Like, and How We Could Lose

Yoram Hazony’s full speech from NatCon 5 is out.

As the architect of Ziopopulism, which has replaced True Conservatism in the Trump era, I think his thoughts on the state of the movement are worth watching. Basically, Ziopopulism concedes most of the traditional nationalist demands – on immigration enforcement, on mass deportations, on stopping the Great Replacement, on cultural degeneration, increasingly on race, on confronting anti-White discrimination, on addressing trade imbalances, and so on. It makes space for all that in the mainstream. I know there are people who disagree and there is a lot to criticize about the way Trump had addressed these issues like his whimsical tariffs, but I think a good faith effort is being made.

In exchange for all of these various concessions, we are invited to support Netanyahu’s mad policies, which go far beyond what was tolerated in the days when the Republican establishment gave lip service to the two state solution. We will secure the border for you, but you got to look the other way when Israel “erases Amalek” and carries around the bodies of dead Palestinians in bulldozers. Hazony and other Ziopopulists cannot wrap their minds around why this deal is so divisive and unsatisfying.

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  1. “Hazony and other Ziopopulists cannot wrap their minds around why this deal is so divisive and unsatisfying.”

    They may have figured out how to manipulate us, but it seems this is simply through trial and error rather than actually understanding us – and this situation is a good example of this.

    They genuinely do not comprehend why we would object to Israeli behavior – in Gaza specifically, and in general more broadly. It would be funny, if not for the ever growing pile of systematically murdered children there.

  2. “Israeli soldiers have been desecrating the bodies of Palestinian victims.”

    Much the same as soviet soldiers did to SS and Heer soldiers, extreme torture, dismemberment to an agonizing death.
    Same people, same methods.
    Pattern recognition is high IQ.

  3. “We are observing the commandment to erase the memory of the Amalek”

    Narcissistic justification of any heinous action. There are no limits on their psychotic tribal sadism.

    2000 years ago, they did the same and worse in libya, Cyprus, Egypt and the Levant , Kitos Massacres. They exterminated all the peoples of ancient Libya and Cyprus, see Cassius Dio.

  4. > In exchange for all of these various concessions, we are invited to support Netanyahu’s mad policies, which go far beyond what was tolerated in the days when the Republican establishment gave lip service to the two state solution. We will secure the border for you, but you got to look the other way when Israel “erases Amalek” and carries around the bodies of dead Palestinians in bulldozers.

    Two items:

    1. We’ve gotten zero in exchange for this devil’s bargain (looking away as Satanyahoo & Co. go about “erasing Amalek”). Moreover, that’s not all the fake nationalists like Hazony demand of YT: They also demand the right to molest your kids with zero consequences (see the latest events in Las Vegas), and continuation of the ownership of the entire DC apparat.

    2. Most importantly, never forget that WE are “Amalek” to the likes of Hazony every bit as much as the hapless residents of Gaza are. No doubt we’ll be treated to a wall fo BS from our resident rebbe who claims he’s a white Christian. Words coming from Satanic spawn mean nothing. Look at the actions and you’ll see in full color what they really are about. What Hazony demands – for an empty promise – is full capitulation to Satanism, nothing less.

  5. The messaging is schizophrenic and reeks of desperation.

    Why not just chill, grill and watch you disgusting rats destroy yourselves.

    I’m neutral but I like seeing these disgusting people lose.

  6. If I get everything I want at home, and everybody slowly learns to hate jews because they watch them act like barbarians in palestine, killing Palestinians who are also objectively barbarians that hate whitey……and all of this is being hung on Trump (the zionist boomer we elected by huge majority), and he will be gone in a couple years….Tell me Hunter, where is the down side?

    Is it just impossible to accept any victory that doesn’t involve making lampshades?

    We are literally getting our cake and eating it too. Go touch some grass dude. You are spending too much time on twitter.

  7. There is no “deal” being offered to you guys. Just some lying Jews working in the information space during a touchy period.

    With Jews You Lose.

  8. I hardly ever hear much about the Gaza-Israeli War. So, I dont know where you get it so much so that you are tired of it, except perhaps from your masters who want ypu to beat the Anti-Zionist drum non-stop. If you are tired of it, just stop writing about. The Israelis are going to win, I’ll be given a permanent condo at Gazalargo, and you will be left behind to talk about Richard Spencer 10 years from now.

    In turn, you do good work on behalf of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard’s National Cyber Center, at the saadat Abad Avenue, 18th Alley, Tehran Iran. As a Saadat Abad troll, its not your fault that they often give blatantly obvious fakes like the kid dying from cerebral palsy, not starvation, or the Iraqi Militia troops pretending to be Israeli soldiers fake burning houses.

    As to desecrating poor Sand N@ggers’ sacred bodies, Sand N@ggers, being Sand N@ggers they will often put I.E.Ds inside dead bodies of children, women, men, or dogs, actual dogs, not Sand N@ggers. So, when the IDF comes across bodies they estimate are booby trapped, rather than sacralizing Sand N@gger bodies and getting blown up, the IDF brings in the bulldozer. Also, they bring in bulldozers to clear out rubble, which is usually hardwired with many booby traps as well. Sometimes they come across bodies, since well, Sand N@ggers being Sand N@ggers they like to emplace artillery guns inside baby clinics.

    The IDF doesn’t have time to inspect or move bodies all the time from the battlefield, and neither did the US during Vietnam. Hopefully you won’t have to witness the realities of war. Unless of course you succeed in bringing down Israel or any of America’s Frontline allies, in which case the battles will spread to Eufala, and you’ll get to witness bodies from the battlefield being sand banked at your fishing hole.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJZGR2FaDA

    As a Saadat Abat rat, I expected the IRGC pays you well especially to move blatantly propoganda value like you posted above. Still, its indicative of the ill discipline of Sand N@ggers to put out such b.s. Its not helping their cause as more and more people are tuning out the Saadat Abad propoganda about Anti-Zionism. Israel will likely win this war, the Gaza savages will be removed, Gazalago will be established, and more sophisticated people than you will take over OD, and return to talking about more important things than poor dead murderous Sand N@gger savages.

  9. Here is what “winning” looks like for Israeli Jew Yoram Hazony.

    In Israel, religious ethno-nationalism which literally spits on Christians.

    In America, secular civic nationalism with a privileged status for Jews.

    I understand why this us appealing to Jewish supremacists such as Yoram Hazony, and Curtis Yarvin, and Costin Alamariu, and Steve Sailer, and Lomez of Passage Press, and the Claremont Institute, by why should I consent to this?

    They throw us some measly crumbs, and in return they want us to be the scapegoats, the fall guys, the patsies for the Gaza genocide.

    “Oy vey! We Jews are innocent! Those horrible racist White Republicans, those all-powerful Southern evangelical Christians, they FORCED us to genocide the Palestinians! The real criminals are the Christian Zionists. They supported Netanyahu, but we Jews said ‘Not in our name!’ ”

    No thanks. I will not be your accomplice, you lying manipulative sadistic gang of scoundrels.

    Palestinians are not my enemy, and I am not their enemy. Jewish supremacists are the enemy of both of us.

  10. “Hazony and other Ziopopulsts cannot wrap their minds around why this deal is so divisive and unsatisfying.” – of course -the jews are completely unfamiliar with introspection. In a perverted way you have to begrudgingly admire the jews who are the living embodiment of Samuel Johnson’s quote “He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the burden of being a man.”

  11. Coalition building and winning:

    Trump would have on a bigger victory if he wasn’t saddled with the Israel Lobby. If he had been decisively America First on foreign policy, if he had a clear and decisive antiwar message, he would have won Minnesota and Nebraska’s second district, in addition to all the states and districts he actually won.

    When Trump forced a ceasefire in Gaza in his first two months in office, he had a 55% approval rating among voters aged 18-29, record high for a Republican president. After the genocide recommended, and Trump bombed both Yemen and Iran to support the genocide, his approval rating among voters aged 18-29 plummeted to 25%, an all-time record low.

    The Israel Lobby is an electoral liability, but it is a massive boon for all the politicians, consultants and staffers who get rich with Israel Lobby money, including the “golden parachute” of high priced speaking gigs, book deals and sinecures for retired politicians.

    Trump isn’t going to regain support by sending Yoram Hazony to wag his finger at young voters. All Trump really needs to do is release the Epstein files and end all US support for Israel, which would instantly stop the Gaza genocide.

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