In the past few months I’ve come up with a few simple guidelines for White Nationalist writers. Before you ever publish anything on a website or in a print magazine, please observe these rules:
1) Keep your target audience in mind.
Before you write a single word you should develop an idea of your target audience. Who are you trying to persuade? Are you writing to a mass audience or an inner circle? Different audiences will respond to arguments differently.
2) Flatter your audience.
Praise and flatter those you are intending to persuade. If your target is White Americans, praise their proud history, enduring heritage, and love of freedom.
3) Look good.
Present your movement in the best possible way. Never focus on defectives or gossip. If you denigrate those who share your ideas, you are denigrating yourself and your ideas by association. ‘We must learn to strive for all that which unites us, and discard every argument that divides.’
4) Simplify.
Give your views to your audience in the most simple, easily understood terms. Never create a new word when there are more recognizable ones that have the same meaning.
5) Don’t fight your audience’s values – appeal to them from your angle.
You aren’t going to change a someone’s underlying personality and character. If you try to argue that their love of equality or liberty is wrong, you’ll get no where. Instead, try to persuade them that it is precisely because of their love of a political ideal that they should support YOUR ideas.
6) Show – don’t tell.
Never make unsubstantiated accusations. Don’t tell your audience something without giving them evidence, even if only a small ‘taste’ to increase their curiosity.
Matt Parrott posted some other rules here.
Great stuff!
I believe that refusing to play by the enemy rules is critical. Flip the table.
I still intend to complete the SWAG. So much to do.
BTW, it’s parroTT.
An excellent piece, on which I’d like to make one, minor point:
‘We must learn to strive for all that which unites us, and discard every argument that divides.’
and one of the key issues that deeply divides the pro-white movement, not only within its own ranks, but also between itself and potentially receptive whites in general, is undoubtedly the Jewish question. This fixation, and the insistance on ideological purity on the matter, does the pro-white movement a great disservice, in both its own internal unity and its appeal to whites in general. Also, dabbling in historical revisionism and the rehabilitation of irrelevant Nazi war criminals hurts us as well.
I recently wrote a 16 page OD internal document about social media and writing targeted content. It included many of these same observations. I’ve only sent it out to four or five people. Whenever I revise it, I will send it out to our core writers.
If for no other reason, the forum need to be reopened for all the writers here can discuss strategy and moderation issues in private.
Great article.
Now take EVERY point in this piece, and apply it to the social RETARDS, on the “don’t let the bitches vote thread.”
Got it, Sam?
“5) Don’t fight your audience’s values – appeal to them from your angle.”
Master clinical hypnotist Milton Erickson said “meet the client at his model of the world”
One thing that divides us irreconcilably is a the dying alien universalist-inclusive Pauline religion, and it in my opinion more than anything else threatens to take us down with it. Liberalism, Communism and ZOG would be much easier to defeat without it.
Any religion or mythology not firmly anchored to Blut und Boden sows the seeds for destruction of the former and rendering inihabitable the latter.
If we had kept our native spirituality, we would not be facing extinction today. If you don’t believe me, imagine for a moment how ridiculous going to Africa, proselytzing to Zulus and building a temple to Odin for the benefit of the natives’ souls would have been to an 11th Century Viking leader.
@Matt
Sorry, I fixed it.
@Yosemite
The Jewish Question has played such a tremendous role in our decline that it would be criminal for our movement to ignore it. There are people like Jared Taylor who avoid the topic because they want to focus on one problem at a time. That’s understandable. I wish them the best of luck.
@Hunter
Excellent ideas.
@John
Ultimately I agree with you, but I’ve decided to back off from Christianity because so many people find it synonymous with being a part of the West. That’s part of the “know your audience” rule.
The practical, always good.
As I remember the 2008 AR conference had an interesting talk by a Brit named Michael Walker — “What Can I Do? was the title of it.
It was very practical.
Dear Fellow Patriot,
A special event that happened recently has changed my outlook on our struggle and the situation facing our sacred country. That event was the peaceful, sensible, mature debate with the Christian Party leader George Hargreaves and a large number of Christian Party members. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire debate which was noticeably absent of the usual hysterical fanaticism of the liberal-left.
It made me think long and hard about a new dimension of our struggle: our Christian religion, culture and traditions. In the past too much emphasis has been placed on the ethnic aspect of our present national dilemma, whilst the longest running feature of our identity has been overlooked: the fact that our country has been held together and guided for millennia by our common, ancient religion: Christianity.
And before you misunderstand me, I do not mean the gut-wrenching politically correct quasi-Marxist nonsense spewing forth from the treacherous leaders of the modern Anglican Church. I mean the traditional, upright, decent and honest Christianity that defended Europe from Islamic conquest, the Christianity of the Crusades and the Christianity of our forefathers.
There is nothing in traditional Christianity about world government, abolishing the nations, enslaving the world to finance capitalism and big business, eradicating traditional unique cultures and national identities, the promotion of sexual perversion, the glorification of treason, letting criminals run rampant and political correctness.
No, the Christianity of our forefathers was about honesty, family, patriotism, sacrifice, loyalty, king and country. For over 1,000 years Christianity held our people together and guided us through the centuries. If Christianity had not existed Europe would have been conquered by Islam centuries ago.
I made the irrefutable point during the debate with the Christian Party that the British National Party is the only political organisation in Britain that wants to keep this country fundamentally Christian, with Christian values, traditions and culture. Every other political party would happily allow Islam to engulf our Christian homeland.
After the General Election, all BNP leaflets will carry a Christian Cross to demonstrate our commitment to maintaining and preserving our Christian heritage as a nation. Politically correct scoundrels like Rowen Williams will cry foul but we have nothing to be ashamed of as we are the defenders of Britain’s Christian heritage, just like our Crusader ancestors in the Middle Ages.
So this weekend enjoy the Christian festival of Easter with pride and remember the War Heroes that fell in the many wars to defend our homeland. Be proud of your British, Christian identity and reject the false guilt and self-loathing of the liberal-left political class.
The darkest hour is just before the dawn, but be of good cheer for Christ Our Lord is risen!
Yours sincerely,
Nick Griffin
The old Dale Carnegie book, How to Win Friends and Influence People, is also helpful for general personal persuasiveness.
Thank you for the post, Robert. Although I regard Nick’s strategies and loyalties at times questionable, his message here about Christianity being the glue and protector that held Europe together for centuries — for better or worse — is an important one, especially now, with its Marxist imitation suffocating us. (Writers such as Spirit-Water-Blood, CWYN, Matthew Raphael Johnson, Chesterton, T.S. Eliot, C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, and Shakespeare, can give aid to those seeking understanding about our historical faith, it’s inherent anti-Jewishness, and its adoption of much of the good parts of Germanic and Celtic beliefs and traditions.)
Christians almost by definition subordinate their faith to their race. That is unacceptable to me. One’s faith should be inalienable from who one is. CHRISTIANITY IS NOT — ABSOLUTELY NOT! We could sustain a universalist creed when we had homogeneous countries and an invasion was unequivocally and inconvtrovertably an invasion. At this dire point Christianity guarantee assimiltion. If going up to the sky and meeting Jewsus when you die is more important to you than your coethnics continuing to survive, good luck to you and get out of the way.
Christianity was a pretty good religion — before Paul got his hands on it — good for the people from whom it sprang. Poison for Europeans. Now rotten to the core and irredemable. We can deal with that now or deal with that later.
John,
Your comment proves that you have no idea in the world what traditional Christianity was all about. You are judging our ancient faith by its modern, Marxist, televangelist imitation. I probably hate the new-improved-Jesus beggars more than you do (and am now looking into Asatru and Hellenism), but I’m not going to bash every one of my ancestors and my own civilization going back hundreds of years for the crimes of today’s modern liberal retards. Posts like yours are grossly ignorant and shallow, showing a profound disrespect for the people who came before you and made your life possible. Unfortunately, they number in the billions and proclaim loudly that there is very little wisdom or deep understanding in this entire so-called WN movement, and consequently little hope that we will avoid a very long and beastly future.
But, hey, yeah, I know — that’s just like, my opinion, man, or whatever.
Unfortunately, Dale Carnegie never talked about what to do with hostile morons.
“but I’m not going to bash every one of my ancestors and my own civilization going back hundreds of years for the crimes of today’s modern liberal retards.”
I bash the retards who propagated that pernicious religion to my people — who go back thousands of years before that alien, Pauline self-replicating meme who already had an organic spirituality that was bound to their people, ancestors and progeny, and their land. I bash most King Olaf who sold out to the zombie cannibal cult.
Two questions for European-origin members of any faith: Which do you place in higher order, your faith or your people? Is your faith inextricably bound to your people or can anyone join it? The answers I require: “my people” to the first or if “my faith”, “bound to my people” to the second. The only faith that meets my requirements are Europeans’ native ones.
As Israelites play absolutely no role in European native spirituality, the highjacking of the US government and military to Israel’s ends would not have been possible if the Middle Eastern origin Christians had left my people alone. The problem is not that the religion was hijacked, it is that it could be hijacked.
If you don’t believe me, imagine for a moment how ridiculous going to Africa, proselytzing to Zulus and building a temple to Odin for the benefit of the natives’ souls would have been to an 11th Century Viking leader.
About as ridiculous — when looked at without the feigned awe of the art fetish which nearly everyone affects — as a Gothic church built in Gaul for the benefit of its natives’ souls, sacking the lands of the Siculi and Andalusians for the thrill of it, or the purely negative legacy of rapine left by these high-minded Vikings, who by the way were Christian by the 11th century, in the minds of other Europeans.
Moral: the only spirit native to a strong, coherent race is opportunism. The only spirit native to a weak, incoherent race, such as we constitute, is defensiveness.
John,
You hate a religion you do not even understand. You hate your ancestors for “selling out,” but do not understand why they did what they did. Perhaps what came along was the right thing for the situation they were in. Most willing bought in to the new religion. You know, “Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.”
“Two questions for European-origin members of any faith: Which do you place in higher order, your faith or your people? Is your faith inextricably bound to your people or can anyone join it? The answers I require: “my people” to the first or if “my faith”, “bound to my people” to the second. The only faith that meets my requirements are Europeans’ native ones.”
This is one thing you are not understanding: “The Faith was Europe and Europe was Faith.” This is what made Christianity unique, that it was ours and was us. What we had at the heights of Christendoms power and influence was so Europeanized that an early Christian or Jew would not have recognized it. Once established across Europe, there was no need to choose between our clans or our religion. Those old missionaries who spread Christianity all over the world each had different motives, but few back then actually thought it made the savages European. Up until 1965, Americas identified strongly as Christians and our immigration policies were explicitly limited to Europeans only.
Any religion can be high-jacked, it only takes time and imagination and the unwillingness of its adherents to remain faithful. What we now call Asatru could have gone global, and might have been very popular today in China or India.
The old European gods faded away, were replaced, renamed or reinterpreted through the Mediterrean viewpoint, which was strong and educated at that time. Would that the old gods could be understood again in the old way, and give new life to our dying culture. It may come to pass in future. But I do not want to throw out something that once made us rulers of the world for so many centuries, though it now be corrupted.
(Writers such as Spirit-Water-Blood, CWYN, Matthew Raphael Johnson, Chesterton, T.S. Eliot, C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien, and Shakespeare, can give aid to those seeking understanding about our historical faith, it’s inherent anti-Jewishness, and its adoption of much of the good parts of Germanic and Celtic beliefs and traditions.)
“Pandering pundits pondering ponderously.”
According to Sam Davidson, “Show – don’t tell.” Can Christians show us the proof of their Jew cult? In post 12, John wrote, “Christians almost by definition subordinate their faith to their race.” If black Africans have an immortal soul or I have an immortal soul, then I, Eric, am totally wrong about the nature of reality. If Christianity is true, then the eternal supernatural world is vastly more important than our transient natural world. If a 17-year Boer girl is raped by the boons, then Mighty Christ will make it OK. If ragheads chop off a million European heads, then Jew Jehovah will fix everything on Judgment Day. Are the immortal souls of boons and Eric more important than White survival? Zot King shouted, “I’m f***ing for God!” If Christianity is true, then the Jew Jesus loves the f***ing non-white tidal wave. Let us give all our money to the the people of Nigeria, Cambodia, or Indonesia and hope they will help our souls get to Heaven. Let us bring over any Hmong who are still not in North America. Let us praise Jesus Jumping Jack and join the Jews in destroying all the White European peoples.
Patrick J. Buchanan’s “State of Emergency” — reality of Whites
Michael Lewis’s “The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine” — truth
Charles Darwin’s “The Origin of Species” — reality of boons, gooks, genetically-engineered Jew parasites, honky Eric and the other animals of nature
Christianity has nothing to do with this thread. Let’s not go down this road, gentlemen.
To get back to the original subject, then, I will make an observation. It is amazing to me that the thoughts written by those of different generations and between the sexes, even though they are amongst ourselves, free from direct interference, and in a shared mother tongue, can nonetheless seem like we are speaking two completely different languages and that true understanding and cooperation could seem such a remote possibility.
John wrote, “Christians almost by definition subordinate their faith to their race.”
Sorry, I meant (obviously) “subordinate their race to their faith”.
Roman Catholicism is universalist by the very definition of its name—Catholic.
Too often I read someone brought up, or educated as a Roman Catholic knocking Christianity for being Catholic/universalist, when it is they or their relatives who are the Catholics/universalists.
I see where the Pope recently appointed a Mexican to take over from Cardinal Mahoney in Los Angeles, and I see where the Pope also said he appointed Cardinal DiNardio in Texas to show his appreciation for Mexican Catholics.
Don’t turn your back on a Roman Catholic or a Jew. 😉
Probably the best thing to do is watch sites, facebook groups, etc of people who would normally be aligned with us and see what their criticism is.
For example, this discussion on facebook regarding the hysterical reaction to a piece on Alternate Right and attacks on the author:
http://www.facebook.com/amerika.org?ref=sgm#!/corrupt.org?ref=mf
First observe the emotional outbursts by WNs. Then observe the patriots going mad. Then re-read the article again. Is any part here really reality-tuned?
Heh, I ignored this completely because I wasn’t interested but I think it got more comments than any article on AltRight so far.
Scott Locklin has got to be one of my favorite writers.
The WN females on that site are retarded, and I refuse to even respond to them. They are mouthy and they never shut up — even when they have no idea what they are talking about — JUST LIKE FEMINISTS. … See More
See: THEYA.
I can see what you mean. The problem with WNs seems to be that of feminists: blaming own short-comings on symbolic enemy.
Exactly. WNfail
WN is weird right now. A few years ago I wouldn’t have wanted anything to do with them, and they wouldn’t have wanted anything to do with me. Now things are changing, and more people are seeing that white people have some legitimate concerns and other groups are getting away with far too much, but there is still that old stupid bigot strain of WN that is pathetic and embarrassing to be associated with.
If the only thing that keeps you together is some vague sense of the superiority of the achievements of your ancestors and disgust and blame for other groups, you don’t have much at all. I’m all for people of European descent standing up for themselves and keeping their culture alive–and even rejecting the influence of other cultures to a certain extent.
But some of these people are so trapped in their own echo chambers they sound as stupid as liberals shouting “racist” at everything. All these bitches do is shout “Jewish influence!” and “Niggers!” like a teenager who just learned a dirty word and who is trying to impress his friends. It’s lame. And they really haven’t accomplished anything in the past 50 years. If they can re-evaluate themselves they might become relevant and interesting. But at the moment it is still 50/50.
I think that’s it. When movements turn into clubhouses, they quickly populate with angry losers who are looking for a cause to make their life more meaningful. They end up destroying everything they touch. I don’t think the racial right nuts have a future. Tea Party-ish rightists, on the other hand, I think are harvesting success.
Once again, Tom Watson does not miss an opportunity to bash Catholics. I’ve noted this on more than one site, and it’s really starting to set my jewdar off that he can’t post a comment without insulting the Church–even on unrelated topics.
John–your posts are precisely the “what not to do” that Sam was addressing in this thread.
To all who confuse Catholicism for the namby-pamby liberal nonsense propagated by the modern Church hierarchy, please take a look at this statue of St. James the Moor Slayer in Spain. Does that look like a sissy to you? That should be the patron saint of the politically incorrect.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/07/public-outcry-forces-church-to-keep-moor-slayers-statue.html
Once again, Tom Watson does not miss an opportunity to bash Catholics. I’ve noted this on more than one site, and it’s really starting to set my jewdar off that he can’t post a comment without insulting the Church–even on unrelated topics.
Good call Lady!
As a good Deutscher Katholik myself, I am in no way offended by Tom’s criticism of the Church – I can agree with some of it myself – just that it seems incessant with him (like you say, even when its on unrelated and tangential topics).
The fact that this thread degenerated into Christian bashing once again shows the greatest flaw of this “movement”: inability to stay on topic in order to grand stand.
As a Christian I feel the need to defend my Faith (once again!). First off Christianity is the only reason the West is still alive today. Charles Martel at Tours, Pope Pius kicking off the Crusades, Don Juan at Lepanto, and Leopold I at the Battle of Vienna kept the West from Muslim conquest at key moments in our history. Without those great Christians leading armies against foreign invasion whites today would be wiped out (at worse) or Dhimmi’s to Islam (at best). So eveyrone one of you keyboard commandos who do nothing but alternate your fat asses between the keyboard to bitch and the couch to read crippled European philosophers with strongman fantasies should be on your knees thanking Christians of the past for your obscenely comfortable lifestyle today.
When it comes to the Paganism in the movement why is it only Norse myths? Why do none of these WN go on about how the Greek Gods are an “indiginous European Faith”? Are these myths that were the deeply held believes of Western peoples at the earlies part of our civilization not white enough for them? Seems to me none of these “Pagans” actually believe their own rhetoric. This is the proved by the fact that no Norse pagan today says he came to Paganism through a religious moment. It’s always about how “Christianity is causing our race’s downfall”, so really it’s not about believing in the Gods but being politically expediant and cool. The ancient Pagans would have utterly slaughtered today’s “Pagans” for thier blasphemy and disrespect of the gods they held to be sacred and real.
But then again I can already hear the cat calls of the costume wearing “Pagans” and shill screaming of the fatass Nietzscheians about how “He cares more about his Faith than his race” so why even bother. People who think that attacking Christianity just like the Leftists and Jews will help the White Race; who think attacking what the vast majority of white Americans hold sacred will somehow wake white Americans up; who think attacking what has been central to the soul and imagination of Western Civilization will somehow revive Western Civilization, and who think attacking what has been the thing to rally the forces of Western Civilization to fight against foreign invasion is going to help turn back today’s foreign invasion are so far gone in thier ignorance of the history and heritage they claim to be fighting for I doubt sometimes whether this “movement” really wants to win or just intellectually masturbate.
Amen Pip Pockets…particularly that last part.
Oops. I just realized, I posted the wrong link–the one without the photo.
Check this out:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/1467621/Public-outcry-forces-church-to-keep-Moor-Slayers-statue.html
You gotta love a statue that depicts chopped off muslim heads–in Church no less. And each year, the King of Spain makes an annual offering to the Saint. The PC Thought Police wanted to get rid of the statue, but were forced to abandon the project after public outcry.
@Lady Lurker
The “modern” Roman Catholic church is the “modern” Roman Catholic church!
What do you think of your Pope appointing a Mexican born national as Cardinal of Los Angeles. Or the greasy little Cardinal DiNardio of Texas as a Mexican according to the Pope, and the Pope is never wrong. LOL.
Btw, you can’t deny the alliance between the Roman Catholics & Jews in Congress!!!
@ Landser
Get used to Protestant criticism of Roman Catholics—it’s going to get a lot worse!
As a White American, and a descendent of the founders, you Roman Catholics and your Jew political allies should get down every day on your knees, and thank us for being here. LOL.
This is our country, you are just visiting.
Good advice.
I would add:
* No change of mind is too small to be valuable.
* Take yes for an answer.
“Take yes for an answer” means do not play double or nothing with people who are trying to assimilate a new thought, especially one with the taint of “crimethink”. If you demand more of people all at once, you may drive them away. Don’t do a victory dance, because you “won” either. Don’t turn “new understanding” into humiliation. Be gentle, and let the new thought take root without disturbance.
Do not think that an idea or a fact that seems trivial or obvious to you is valueless to someone else. A person who is inclined to be open-minded has a great adventure before them once they accept an idea or two that does not conform to the rest of their mental map.
Paul Gottfried says that conservatives used to say one set of things, and (neo) conservatives now say a bunch of different things, and yet claim a continuous tradition of conservatism. This is clearly true. Is it too small a point to be interesting? Not for him, and not for me. Once accept this point, and many questions follow.
In arguing (graciously) with Paul Gottfried, Jared Taylor said: “Race realism therefore has no theory of religion, the family, art, or the role of government, except in the very general sense that it expects whites to love, first and foremost, the infinite riches created by European man.”
Is a doctrine so severely limited not worth arguing for? Isn’t it too simple to be useful, to say that the riches of European man are lovable, and that we ought to love both them and the goose that lays these golden eggs? For me it was a mental revolution. With a very small claim to focus on, I was able to decide for myself if it was true or not – and then start slowly cleaning out of my head things inconsistent with that truth.
After I had internalized those two points, and mulled on them for a while, and done a lot of mental house-cleaning (like ceasing to capitalize Black but not white, and tossing out my books on F.W. de Klerk, heroic destroyer of White resistance in South Africa) I was capable of understanding Kevin MacDonald’s arguments when I came across them, and I’ve now sent off for his three key books.
It would have done me no good whatever to lay everything out on the first day.
I needed a lot of time to do simple things like look at (a big print of) Botticelli’s The Birth of Venus, and think. Is this art wholly separable from a positive appraisal of White bodies and White traditions? Is it beautiful? Is it good? Is there any other race that will love White bodies and White culture like this, if the White race goes the way it’s going in, say, Zimbawe, but world-wide? Wouldn’t it be a shame if there was no more art created like this, if both the artists and the models were finished?
Baby steps: we can’t do without them.
See: THEYA.
The mentally ill Andrea Freiboden / Middletown Girl / Theya is not a female.
I don’t think the racial right nuts have a future. Tea Party-ish rightists, on the other hand, I think are harvesting success.
The Tea Party movement is neoconned to the core and going nowhere.
Even if the Tea Party movement succeeded in achieving tax cuts, “liberty,” and “limited government,” it would still be a failure. The HBD/Race Realist types are clueless when it comes to race, at least on the racial issues that really matter. The policies they advocate are ending affirmative action, making English the official language, reducing immigration, making sure immigrants “assimilate,” and promoting Eurocentric culture and values. These are peripheral in comparison to the racial issues that really matter.
What really matters is racial preservation. As Richard McCulloch says, separation is the preservationist imperative. It is a necessary condition for racial survival. Racial preservation requires reproductive isolation, which requires geographic separation. To oppose separation is to oppose preservation.
It sounds like there’s come disagreement about:
“We must learn to strive for all that which unites us, and discard every argument that divides.”
Hmm. Maybe if we divide on enough, we will end up, in effect, multiplying our numbers, so some sort of cohesion will be unnecessary.
Edit:
It sounds like there’s some disagreement about:
“We must learn to strive for all that which unites us, and discard every argument that divides.”
Hmm. Maybe if we divide enough, we will end up, in effect, multiplying our numbers, so some sort of cohesion will be unnecessary.
@Tom Watson, you’re jew colors are showing, and anyone with a brain can see it.
Columbus was a Catholic, so we were here first jerk. You’re welcome.
@Tom Watson
PS. The Good Shepherd was a crappy movie and Cardinal DiNardio is an Italian born in Ohio.
‘When it comes to the Paganism in the movement why is it only Norse myths? Why do none of these WN go on about how the Greek Gods are an “indiginous European Faith”?’
I claim that neopagan thought is not just religious faith, but intellectual philosophy.
Let me follow the points of the original post:
1) Keep your target audience in mind.
I address whites who remember such thinkers as Plato and Newton.
2) Flatter your audience.
Plato and Newton excelled in both spirituality and intellect. They did not sacrifice logical rigor to faith. All whites should take pride in this achievement.
3) Look good.
Love them or hate them, no literate person can ignore Plato and Newton.
4) Simplify.
Plato and Newton provided a natural philosophy which is the key to effective thought and action.
5) Don’t fight your audience’s values – appeal to them from your angle.
To understand Plato and Newton requires hard work – but whites are capable of hard work for a good cause.
6) Show – don’t tell.
“Isaac Newton” has more than two million hits on Google. Can you afford to ignore him?
@ Lady Lurker
Cardinal DiNardio is a greasy little bastard. LOL. So his parents are Mexicans, or is the Pope wrong? LOL.
I have a few pubic hairs off of the Holy Roman Catholic Mary’s cunt I would be happy to sell you. Cheap. LOL.
As a Protestant myself – who agrees that the Roman Church is often very wrong on many issues…
I still must say that you are an evil little prick, Tom ‘Watstein’ for that wholly vulgar and crass thing you said about the Mother of Our Lord.
Go to Hell for all Eternity — you dissembling, rotten troll.
@Germanicus
You are a liar. No Protestant believes in relics!
You are probably as much a German as Cantor is an Eric. LOL.
“Columbus was a Catholic, so we were here first jerk.”
Columbus discovered Hispaniola. 500 years after Scandinavian pagans discovered North America.
“You’re welcome.”
For Haiti?
@Tom “jew troll” Watson
If you had two brain cells to rub together and something passing for a vocabulary, you might know the difference between infallible and impeccable.
And I know you’re lying about being a southerner. No southern man I’ve ever known would talk to a lady like that.
“The Jewish Question has played such a tremendous role in our decline that it would be criminal for our movement to ignore it.”
Other people prefer to ignore it because it’s delusional. There is no jewish quesiton.
“John–your posts are precisely the “what not to do” that Sam was addressing in this thread.”
I have on Christian-dominated forums posted videos of Israelis abusing Christians, argued that Ashkenazis are not part of God’s original contract, called the Talmud a “devil’s book”, cited Revelation 2:9, and posted links to Torah-true Jews’ websites.
But I should hope that this is not a Christian-dominated forum. I should further hope disagreement is tolerated here. I have no agenda inimical to WN here, this problem exists and we must deal with it. The house is on fire. When you run back in in your last-chance attempt to save something, I hope it’s your child you’re after and not your Bible.
“People who think that attacking Christianity just like the Leftists and Jews will help the White Race; who think attacking what the vast majority of white Americans hold sacred will somehow wake white Americans up; who think attacking what has been central to the soul and imagination of Western Civilization will somehow revive Western Civilization, and who think attacking what has been the thing to rally the forces of Western Civilization to fight against foreign invasion is going to help turn back today’s foreign invasion are so far gone in thier ignorance of the history and heritage they claim to be fighting for I doubt sometimes whether this “movement” really wants to win or just intellectually masturbate.”
All other things being equal, Beethoven would have still written great music, Paul or no Paul. We can’t know what would have happened in Europe in midieval times and later. But I will say this: if modern Greeks spoke Persian I would grant you that Christianity is necessary for white men to repel invaders and join the church myself, distasteful as the doctrine and particularly its origins are for me.
Leftists and Jews have different motivations for attacking Christianity. Their attack is largely against Christian morals which except for the inclusive-universality (which the former have no problem with) and the “love your enemy” and “the [Mestizos] shall inherit the [US] crap, I have no problem with, either. The guilt-induction, I do have a problem with, the leftists just want to replace the concept of original sin with their ersatz-religious “racism”.
As I hope you should gather from my first paragraph above, I’m not trying to “wake anybody up”. Anybody who comes here earnestly is already awoken. The formerly most racially conscious Pauline sect, the Southern Baptists, are actively supporting illegal aliens, welcoming them with open arms and Christian charity. Are you going to save your child or your Bible?
“For example, this discussion on facebook regarding the hysterical reaction to a piece on Alternate Right and attacks on the author:”
The reaction to the article was no more hysterical than the article, and much less full of lies and half-truths.
“I can see what you mean. The problem with WNs seems to be that of feminists: blaming own short-comings on symbolic enemy.”
This is pure idiocy. WNs don’t blame their own shortcomings, to the extent that they have any, on symbolic enemy. They blame the shortcomings of Whites who are NOT White Nationalists on ACTUAL enemies.
“If the only thing that keeps you together is some vague sense of the superiority of the achievements of your ancestors and disgust and blame for other groups, you don’t have much at all.”
I suppose this is a reference to how WNs always get into fights with each other.
I admit this is a mistake on their part, but comes from WNs having an abiding love of conflict.
“And they really haven’t accomplished anything in the past 50 years.”
They’ve done the least harm of any other group of people in the West, though, and that’s perhaps the greatest accomplishment of all.
“I don’t think the racial right nuts have a future. Tea Party-ish rightists, on the other hand, I think are harvesting success.”
Republicans are the walking dead.
Superb post, Pip Pockets. Thanks.
MGLS,
Even if the Tea Party movement succeeded in achieving tax cuts, “liberty,” and “limited government,” it would still be a failure. The HBD/Race Realist types are clueless when it comes to race, at least on the racial issues that really matter. The policies they advocate are ending affirmative action, making English the official language, reducing immigration, making sure immigrants “assimilate,” and promoting Eurocentric culture and values. These are peripheral in comparison to the racial issues that really matter.
That’s not quite true. Race-realist policies (which, as I conceive them, go much further than what you’ve outlined above) could so dramatically improve ‘the racial situation’ (when you get down to it, ‘race relations’) that in the minds of many (all but the most intensely racially identified, really) it would obviate the need for more drastic measures like separation. Yes, in the (very) long run you’d still lose your race, but it’d be a much smoother, less painful process — say what you will about it, but that’s not nothing.
What really matters is racial preservation. As Richard McCulloch says, separation is the preservationist imperative. It is a necessary condition for racial survival. Racial preservation requires reproductive isolation, which requires geographic separation. To oppose separation is to oppose preservation.
True. But the average person still needs (other) reasons to desire it, so talk, while it may be ‘cheap,’ is still very necessary.
The problem you have is you require people to start disliking people that they don’t at present dislike and can’t see any conceivable reason to start disliking. That’s a tremendous hurdle. And the louder your side bellows the more determined and righteous the opposition gets and the more the noose tightens. Despite this, the reluctance on your side to practise — rather, to learn — anything like ‘racial aikido’ is immense.
I see. Uhhhh …. look, Silver … uhhhh ……. don’t call us with your excellent advice, we’ll call you. OK? Thanks very much, I’m sure, now have a nice day!
Other people ignore it because it’s delusional.
This is strange coming from someone who, only months ago, said things like: “Jews have no place within the pro-white movement.” (From the ‘Anti-Anti-Semites’ thread)
What changed your mind?
There is no Jewish quesiton.
There definitely is a Jewish Question. Jews are vastly overrepresented in positions of finance, politics, and the media. They have also had leading positions in fomenting unrest in the West during the 20th century. Without Jewish influence we would still have a healthy racial consciousness.