James Howard Kunstler has an excellent Clusterfuck Nation post today, with one bit of delusion. And that delusion is that “ethnic cleansing” is the only possible result of the emerging collective White consciousness and identity:
the white trash elements of the country,
I just hope this sucker doesn’t resolve into an ugly bout of attempted ethnic cleansing
Visions of ethnic cleansing by these Tea Party moms and dads is the “Hollywood Nazi Nightmare,” They are just pissed off. They aren’t getting ready to commit “ethnic cleansing.” That sounds like the fever swamps of the cinema addled, Holocaust haunted rich who think Schindler’s List is actual footage. Kind of like when Ronald Reagan remembered a war story that was from a movie, but thought it was real life. It’s perfectly ridiculous.
And the American youth, the White American youth have a very energetic DIY culture going on. We are going to shed consumerism and growth capitalism like a snake shedding an old skin.
Of course, shedding this snake skin of the Petroleum Age shall restructure the economy and probably the Goldman Sachs casino activity will become much reduced just out of necessity. I think the real nightmare of the bankers is not scaffolds or mobs, but just the possibility that they will lose their “pushbutton magic” over the world.
The writer John Robb is not so blinded by Hollywood Nazi paranoia, and talks about “collapse” as a natural occurrence:
HOW STARTERS BOOTSTRAP RESILIENCE
Almost all of the ills of the coming future, from
disruption/instability to
rising insecurity to
the end of middle class prosperitycan be used by starters (social, cultural, and economic entrepreneurs, risk takers, organizers, leaders, etc. that want to build a better future) to bootstrap* networked resilient communities. Another way to look at this: think of ongoing disruptions as a normal part of how a modern market functions, not as an anomalous event, and act accordingly.
Here’s a simple example:
Starters can use shortages and price spikes (common disruptions) in critical commodities as a way to attach customers to secure local supplies. These relationships, secured by long term contracts (fairly priced), provide preferential treatment during future disruptions. Think of this in terms of food, power, energy, security, etc.
*A bootstrap is a process of building something from the ground up through small, incremental steps. Each step adds to the previous until a fully functional systems is finally realized. The benefits of this approach include: low cost and few barriers to entry. This is how a computer starts when you turn it on. It’s also a popular term: as in “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.”
Posted by John Robb on Thursday, 22 April 2010 at 12:52 PM | Permalink
My attic is always available to Jim if there’s ever a “red white and blue pogrom.” I swear on my Aryan honor that I won’t turn him over to the Tea Party Gestapo or the Glenn Beck Schutzstaffel.
There is a certain fear of the unknown of losing the power that “Blankfein, Rubin and Madoff” represented. Will a loss of Jewish power turn into a Holocaust? How do they climb down from the perch of such far reaching power? It’s a frightening thing for them. Those who were under them might want revenge.
But I think we don’t want revenge, we just want a competent civilization. Banksters don’t make good rulers. We need, and we will get decentralized economy and decentralized power, which will be much more competent than what is currently going on. There is much more up our sleeves than “ethnic cleansing.”
It is always good to see fellow readers of John Robb!
Kunstler’s bread and butter has long been to direct fear and loathing at Whites.
He is “sincerely worried” about potential ethnic cleansing and pogroms, not the actual genocidal levels of immigration that are already well on the way to ethnically cleansing the country of Whites.
Tanstaafl: To add to your point-with current trends, there will also be “hard genocide” against Whites, resulting from the actions of Jewish elites.
The subtle, “consensual,” and “soft” genocide is because we are the majority. When we are a weak minority, full-blown attacks on us will be unrestrained.
I am afraid we may go the way of South Africa, and then even Haiti (at least in States like SC and MS).
Vlad I assume that is you who posted this. There is only one massive genocide being undertaken today and that is of whites and white countries only. Jimmy so blinded by Holocaust imagery is now like millions of other jews using that event as justification, so yes he should be scared. No Berias or Vishinskys gonna die peacefully in their sleep in a comfy bed attended by their shiksas, nope a cold cell after a hard day’s labor more like it.
Kievsky,
I think you are dodging the issue. You can’t have it both ways. The masthead of this publication calls for a “Jew Free Ethnostate”. This site is the very nightmare that JHK is worried about.
If you are serious about the ethnostate then you are adocating the dispossession of some groups from their homes (and all that implies).
If I were Jewish I would view anyone advocating for such, here in the USA where I have free reign to go live in any part of any of the 50 states today, as more or less “a Nazi”. (OK, no one here is calling for executions, etc. so maybe it is more Soviet style relocations… still it sure isn’t something to laugh off if you are Jewish, Black, Brown or Asian)
(And in fact many here are extremely sympathetic to the Nazi’s as evidenced by both the open “Hitler’s Birthday” thread that drew over 100 postings, about 1/2 positive, and the fawning separate tribute thread that Hunter put up.)
Jackson,
I think you’re a bit confused. Kuntsler doesn’t post about White Nationalists (at least not that I’ve seen). Kuntsler is obsessed with normal, conservative, largely aracial white Americans rising up in a genocidal fury. It’s a Jewish racial paranoia and hysteria, not a rational response to American politics.
“It’s a Jewish racial paranoia and hysteria, not a rational response to American politics.”
Maybe, it’s also projection.
Jackson,
I think it’s necessary to have a policy statement, but at the same time it’s kind of absurd since we don’t have any power. A Jew free ethnostate is fine with me, considering the mismanagement of the likes of Rubin, Blankfein, and Dimon, and Greenspan, and Bernanke, and Geithner, and . . . and . . . and, phew let me catch my breath!
My view is to be like Trump and tell the Jews, “Yer fired!” That’s all. That doesn’t mean gas chambers or ovens. it means no more Goldman Sachs, no more AIG, no more Shalom Bernanke attempting to “print wealth” and throw it from helicopters.
“You’re Fired!” It’s not a double entendre hinting at Auschwitz chimneys. It just means we want termination of the Jewish franchise on America’s financial system.
(And in fact many here are extremely sympathetic to the Nazi’s as evidenced by both the open “Hitler’s Birthday” thread that drew over 100 postings, about 1/2 positive, and the fawning separate tribute thread that Hunter put up.)
Jackson,
Would you lighten up a bit? A good deal of us are not trying, nor will try, to reenact 1930’s Germany here in Amerika (although our enemies sure would like to reenact the 1930’s Soviet Union on us here).
*Just curious, how would you identify yourself politically?
BRAVO!! And, by the way I’m not sure about JP Morgan, but even if they are all WASPs they need to go too.
“we want termination of the Jewish franchise on America’s financial system”
Don’t forget Hollywood, porn industry, advertising, media, and Zionist foreign policy establishment.
WU,
Of course. Advertising is simply a waste of resources. Local economy won’t require advertising. It will all be word of mouth.
Much else you mention, such as “Zionist foreign policy establishment” simply won’t have the surplus wealth to carry out its agenda.
No rancor, no violence. They are going broke. Power will devolve to us. Thank heavens for the strong private property ethic in the US. Private property, ironically, is going to be part of what saves us — the millions of smallholders and yeoman farmers will take up the slack in the economic collapse, just as John Robb predicts.
No rancor, no violence. They are going broke.
One assumes then that they are going to utterly destroy the dollar on the way out? Because they are going broke, but they can create money. There will be a lof of misery between now and then.
Remember in 1930 they were in even worse shape, and were able to pull it out of the fire eventually, and increase their power in the process.
Kunstler is a jewish racist. Kunstler hates Germanic/Celtic people. If German/Celtic people are ethnically cleansed from cities in the USA, Kunslter won’t have a problem with that. If Kunstler hates Germanic/Celtic people so much why isn’t Kunstler living in Nigeria, Sri Lanka, or Guatemala?
“Jimmy so blinded by Holocaust imagery”-
What about the Holocaust of Russian and Ukrainian Christians who were murdered by a Jewish Communist government? Death camps, mass killings by bullets and starvation, reeducation camps, people disappeared, kangaroo courts, ethnic cleansing, Orthodox priests murdered, churches burned- all acts committed by Jewish communists.
“There is a certain fear of the unknown of losing the power that “Blankfein, Rubin and Madoff” represented. Will a loss of Jewish power turn into a Holocaust? How do they climb down from the perch of such far reaching power? It’s a frightening thing for them. Those who were under them might want revenge.”
How about justice?
—– Original Message —–
From: Bo Sears
To: jhkunstler@mac.com
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 4:05 PM
Subject: A Still Moment: A Call For Elevated Labeling
Good afternoon!
At the risk of sounding abrasive, we wonder if you would reconsider using “welsh” as a verb and “white trash” as a label. I and our members know what you mean, but both terms are unacceptable and put static in public discourse.
It is unlikely you would use “shanghai” or “jew” as verbs, so why “welsh”?
It is unlikely you would use “black trash” or “Arab trash,” so why “white trash”?
There are good ways to speak of these things without pushing downward on the “coarsening” of America in public discourse. Thanks.
Bo Sears
http://www.ResistingDefamation.org
I always appreciate Bo Sears’ intelligent approach.
That is a particularly mild email; I would be interested in an update as to whether it worked.
Lockeford, regarding Bo Sears’ “mild email” … I don’t think JHK will think it’s “mild”. I think it will drive him nuts.
Like Horus the Avenger says, it all begins with a sound. Once you hear something, you can’t “un-hear” it. And sound spreads … at the speed of light, these days.
Kievsky grossly underestimates the implicit/explicit violence of organized Jewry and its uniformed employees. Contra Jackson (#13), this isn’t 1930. Government and economy were then (relatively) separate institutions; now they are so intertwined that, when the economy goes, the government goes too. Only there is going to be some extremely violent lag time (contra Kievsky) between these two felicitous events. The Jews are not just going to stand by and watch their power ebb away. They (cf. Rahm E.) will try to use the coming economic catastrophe as an opportunity for violent centralization (Limbaugh: “They are doing it on purpose….”) including anything and everything from martial law to gun confiscation to shutting down the (Jew-owned) national grocery chains in an effort to Ukraine the white suburbs. This isn’t going to be any “peaceful de-centralization”. It is going to be a ferociously violent Civil War II, involving cross-cutting racial, Right vs. Left , and secessionist states vs. DC dimensions. The Jew Kunstler, by way of projection (#8, SteveInTheSwamps) just told us so. In short, before you invest in gardening tools and seeds, invest first in weapons and ammunition; otherwise you will not live to eat.
CompassionateFascist,
There’s things we talk about on the Internet, and things we don’t talk about. I think your worries that right wing Americans or White Americans don’t have enough guns are misplaced. The big question is, will we use them when the time comes, if and when there is real obvious roundups and the like? I don’t know. I dread the day and hope it doesn’t come to that.
At any rate, the extreme measures you describe will have one positive effect — the gov’t will lose all legitimacy and secession movements will get millions more members over night.
From: kunstler james howard
To: Bo Sears
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: A Still Moment: A Call For Elevated Labeling
Bo–
I’m generally not in favor of following Political Correctness prescriptions.
James Howard Kunstler
“It’s All Good”
Bo Sears,
So I assume Kunstler has no problem being referred to as a “crook nosed Jew”, and doesn’t care if Black Americans are referred to as “niggers”?
“White trash” is in the same catergory, in my opinion.
Animosities brewing as they are among the crook nosed elements of the country, I just hope this sucker doesn’t resolve into an ugly bout of attempted organ harvesting.
As long as Cohenism is the dominant religion of white people, we will be genocided.
We need our own religion.
WU, busted my gut, that was hilarious.
The brewing animosities of Jews have taken a competent White country that grew surpluses of food for export and built things to last, and turned it into a multicultural hell-hole that imports food and goods because the Jewish bankers make more money and have more control that way.
Now is the beginning of the 100 year backlash. It’s not going to be a petty “red white and blue pogrom,” it’s going to be a deep meme installed in the culture “the Jews ruined America.” Sorry Jim, but you and I both know it’s true. It shall be commonplace knowledge in America in the 21st century, and millions of fates shall be different because of this knowledge.
I love James’ books about architecture and the stupid car-hells we created. (One of the mistakes of the otherwise noble and wonderful White man.) His writing is brilliant, a real mind feast. I have chatted with him a few times. I was disappointed when I found he had such Zionist identity, never questioning the invasion and destruction of Iraq, for example. The former Rolling Stone writer was an inexplicable war hawk from the beginning. Gradually I learned why.
His page “Zesty Anti-Semitic Hate Mail I’ve Received” is richly entertaining. It makes me think Whites have the capacity to get out from other Jewish psychological domination after all.
http://www.kunstler.com/Grunt_hate_mail.html
Yes, useful idiots and active ingredients are always telling me I want to kill non-gentiles, herd them into camps, string them up from lampposts, etc.
They flatter themselves. I want to turn my back on them. I want to slap their hands out of my pockets. I predict they’ll have more than enough useful idiots left over to steal from and lord over. In that case, they deserve each other. If they don’t, and they wind up all by themselves, well, could there be a more richly deserved fate than non-gentiles condemned to live only among other non-gentiles?
No, the lampposts come into play when they refuse to let me go my own way, or take their hands out of my pockets. Pretty simple, really.
“They flatter themselves. I want to turn my back on them.”
The most anti-semitic thing you can do is simply ignore the non-gentiles. They consider not being the center of attention in itself a holocaust.
Much else you mention, such as “Zionist foreign policy establishment” simply won’t have the surplus wealth to carry out its agenda.
No rancor, no violence. They are going broke. Power will devolve to us. Thank heavens for the strong private property ethic in the US. Private property, ironically, is going to be part of what saves us — the millions of smallholders and yeoman farmers will take up the slack in the economic collapse, just as John Robb predicts.
13 Kievsky
Without debt forgiveness the jews will wind up owning everything. Their control of the money supply guarantees it. We might be able to have a bloodless coup but we’ll never have a theftless one. Breaking jewish power will require violation of the rules of their jew money system, including the sanctity of jew property rights.
Thursday, April 22, 2010
Crisis, Martial Law, and Black Market Operation
In the coming years, I think there is a strong possibility that there is going to be crisis and martial law in the United States and in other nations as well. During such periods, the items you need to survive will become increasingly scarce, especially if the crisis and martial law goes on for an extended period of time.
This article could have well been entitled How to Be a Successful Criminal, because what we are talking about bartering during cisis and/or martial law. In crisis and martial law, bartering of goods will be considered a criminal act. As such, if you barter you will be a participant in the black market (at least in the eyes of the government). Remember, during crisis with martial law, you can be arrested for just about anything.
The rules I cover in this article come from the book Black Market Operations: Marketing Theory and the Fencing of Stolen Goods, A report by Ted Roselius and Douglas Benton, associate professors in the college of business at Colorado State University. The book was published by the now defunct publisher Loompanics Unlimited. You may still be able to find the book on some internet booksellers. The book’s ISBN number is 1-55950-017-4. If you can get a copy, I recommend you add it to your preparedness library.
For the record, I do not support criminal behavior during normal times. However, during periods of crisis, especially prolonged crisis with martial law, you have to do what is necessary to survive. Just because the martial law government labels your bartering a “crime” does not make it unethical or evil. On the contrary, your first duty is to provide for your family. (See 1st Timothy chapter 5 verse 8.)
In the book listed above, the author’s list some characteristics of goods that are best for selling and trading on the black market. Let’s examine those characteristics in detail and how the principles will apply to a pure barter economy during a prolonged crisis with martial law.
http://knowledgeisthekilleroffear.blogspot.com/2010/04/crisis-martial-law-and-black-market.html
I once urged Kunstler to change the name of his current events comment blog. I told him it was a great architectural criticism site and I’d like to direct my kids there, but didn’t like the name “Clusterf— Chronicle.” He saw no merit at all to my complaint. I guess that’s just the Jew in him.
Julian Lee: “I love James’ books about architecture and the stupid car-hells we created.”
I used to like his eyesore of the month column. I feel the same as he does about “modern” architecture, and I usually like anti-modernist curmudgeons. Much of his criticism is exaggerated. It makes his column all the more funny. But I like to blame our treacherous elites for today’s architectural disaster, whereas Kunstler probably blames white society as a whole.