I know a lot of people who are White Nationalists. Most of them are damn good people who walk the walk and talk the talk. Their actions speak louder than any words ever could as to who and what they are, and to be honest, that’s the way it should be. There are also a lot of people who claim to be White Nationalists, they say the right words, yet their actions speak louder than anything they say. They don’t live by what they’re saying, and people see this, and judge every single one of us by this. It isn’t something easy to overcome. Remember, we must secure the existence of our people, and a future for white children.
I really don’t give a damn about your religious beliefs, nor do I care about your political beliefs, because if you are a White Nationalist as you claim, your race should come before anything else. You can call it a religious or political edict ordained from on high if you like, but that’s the plain, simple truth. There are those who will be angered by this statement, and take offense, and if you’re one of those, then I have to ask you, are you really a White Nationalist?
Do you go out and offend those of your race whose views aren’t yours? Do you chastise and criticize them because they don’t share the same exact views as you? If you do, then you really, really need to ask yourself if you are living by the 14 words. You see, to me, my race is everything. Fighting for it, dying for it if needs be, but most importantly, living for my race is what drives me, compels me, and propels me onward.
I have full well studied the risks, I know everything I stand to lose by being who and what I am. I accept this, and push on, because there are no rewards without risk. While I can understand that a person has to provide for their family, I understand that people have to make a living, I also understand that there comes a time when it’s put up or shut up. There comes a time when it’s your turn at the plate, and you can either be hero and hit the game winning home run, or you can be a zero and strike out. It’s really up to you what you do, as no one can do it for you.
Are you active? Activism comes in many forms, and there are many ways to help. While you may not be out in the street protesting and marching, what are you doing to support the cause? What are you doing to help out your brothers and sisters? Even if it’s something as simple as making up flyers or signs, are you doing that?
Because if you think posting a few words on the internet and maybe going to the occasional meeting at an undisclosed location is being active, I have bad news for you, you’re wrong. This is about solidarity, about showing a solid front, and if you aren’t willing to do that, we don’t need you. Even if you’re sending a good org a few dollars to help out, it’s doing something. If a brother or a sister have something useful to offer, support them. If you aren’t willing to help out your own, what good are you? If this touches a nerve with you, if it angers and offends you, then I’ve done my job. We don’t need people straddling the fence, we need people who aren’t afraid to do something to help out.
Well, it’s real easy for you to say this, what the hell are you doing? Well for one thing, I’m writing this. For another, I’m spending a boat load of money I really don’t have driving all over the south east to attend events, and get out and meet and network with other white nationalists. This is what it’s going to take to win this. I know people who used to get and do the same thing, then they got families, and despite all of that, they still support the cause by sending out flyers, and flags, and making things to help the cause.
There’s something for everyone to do, besides sit in mommy and daddies basement and type words on a computer. I’m still getting out, I’m still being active, and I’m going through a lot of things right now. I had a family member who I loved dearly recently pass away, and I’ve got 2 grandparents who are terminally ill, and I’m doing everything in power to help them, to support them, and to try to make their last few days, weeks, or months on this earth a bit easier before they cross on to the other side and whatever it is that may await them there. So you’ll have to forgive me if I haven’t been around as much, as I’ve had a pretty full load here lately.
However, despite these things, I’m still getting out, going to rallies, and next month I’m going to a meet and greet we’re having here in the south east. For those of you who post on this forum, I’m going to go and post some of the pertinent details when I get done writing this. I hope to see those who can make it there, but I understand if you don’t make it.
However, you need to make something close to you, or get out and meet people close to you, and organize things so that other people can get involved. I understand that there are organizations that can’t stand one another in this movement. I understand that power tripping and egos sometime get in the way, but people, we are coming upon a time when we’ll have to put all the petty childishness aside, and settle our differences like adults. If we are united, nothing , and I mean nothing can stop us. Our wills are strong, our cause is right and just, but if we’re divided, we’ll ultimately fail.
Hate me if you want to, but damn it, get off your butts and do something. It angers me to no end to see the pettiness, and childishness get in the way of progress. If one of this persons members offends one of your members, don’t run away, and don’t quit, work to resolve the problem. It may take time, and the words may get heated, making it seem like it’s more trouble than it’s worth, but things worth doing aren’t easy ones. They’re tough, and to do them, we’ve got to be tough as hell as well.
The way I see it, we can either be a part of the solution, or we can be a part of the problem. It’s time to wake up people, and realize that the clocks ticking. We have a person in power who want to limit our freedoms, who wants to take away our rights, and before you know it, it will be to late. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out who’s behind it, and before you know it, we’ll have laws like those found in Canada and Germany.
We can just sit there and take it, and be divided, or we can unite and make our voices heard behind a solid wall of brothers and sisters. However, that decision is ours, and our alone, so what’s it going to be.
We had the honor of meeting Carolina Patriot in Columbia. He showed up at the Confederate Flag Rally. Some people in the White Nationalist movement really do “walk the walk.”
Carolina Patriot is one of those people. Kyle Rogers is another. They are setting a positive example that others should emulate.
I see you are a great contributor to our cause, Carolina Patriot! I will also say, South Carolina will be a very important and influential state in our future struggles. Many of our key battles and conflicts will probably take place there, due to its geographic position and the relative racial awareness of the Whites therein.
In the long run, I want to create a network of White Nationalist cells scattered across the United States. We already have a small group here in Virginia.
Matt has a group in Indiana. Kyle has people in South Carolina. Andrew, Greg Johnson, and Michael O’Meara have a cell in California. I know enough people in North Carolina to get a cell started there.
Each cell could host events and do citizen journalism.
This is a great post and brings to mind the one and only thing that I respect about Jews: for them, their race IS THEIR RELIGION. Everything else is subordinate to that one prime directive for them. This is also the one thing lacking in (most of) us. If there is anything that we should learn from them, then that should be the very thing we strive to copy. As Caroline Patriot puts it:
“if you are a White Nationalist as you claim, your race should come before anything else,” and “You see, to me, my race is everything”.
– my sentiments exactly!
I suppose that we Kinists technically aren’t White Nationalists then.
‘I suppose that we Kinists technically aren’t White Nationalists then.’
A lot of people are on the side of WNs by default, because the current pop culture brands them as heretics.
My notion of a WN is someone who must be seeking a future for his/her white children.
However, many people will be grouped with WNs who will not fit this definition.
Suppose, for example, you are a student of sociobiology. For whatever reason (sterility, homosexuality, nonwhite genes) you will never have white children. And yet you admire Kevin MacDonald.
Simply for admiring Kevin MacDonald, you will be excommunicated from the mainstream. Mainstream thinkers will categorize you as a WN (or white supremacist) whether or not you see yourself as a WN.
Suppose, again, that for whatever ethical reason you seek to avoid political involvement while studying sociobiology. For merely telling the truth about sociobiology, you will probably be labelled a white supremacist. You may be uninterested in politics, but politics is interested in you.
I have argued, and I maintain, that even non-White-Nationalists must be aware of the science relevant to Ethnic Genetic Interests.
http://uncontroversial.wordpress.com/2010/06/14/why-non-white-nationalist-jeffersonians-must-be-aware-of-ethnic-genetic-interests/
We are doubly heretical! Religious fundamentalists and racists. Although, the media has tended to perpetuate the meme of the backwards Southerner as both as well. It is getting harder for them to paint any of us as intellectually challenged anymore. It will be instructive to see the next round of propaganda (post-American History X) that attempts to demoralize budding racialism in young white men.
Matt has a group in Indiana. Kyle has people in South Carolina. Andrew, Greg Johnson, and Michael O’Meara have a cell in California. I know enough people in North Carolina to get a cell started there. The Northwest Republic is down. We have our flag, we have our ideology, and even those of us who don’t love HAC respect him, we have Harold. Never doubt the Northwest, nor underestimate us. More White Nationalist blood has been shed here than in the rest of America combined. We shall prevail. Reading about the rest is interesting. It’s MUCH deeper here. It’s not something to be explaine on a forum, but if you come home, you will see. That’s really the bottom line.
For me, patriarchal stewardship in Christ’s example, not race, is my religion. Race is merely a vital dimension of that, one aspect of my tribal identity that I cannot and will not compromise.
“If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at that moment attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ.
“Wherever the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is proved and to be steady on all the battlefield besides is mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that one point.”
– Martin Luther
Right now, in 21st century America, the battle rages on race. Race is no more my religion than oxygen is my religion. As with oxygen, I would prefer to never give race another thought, but am compelled to because there’s a boot on my neck. Perhaps that makes me less of a White Nationalist than others, here. I intend for the results of my life’s work to serve as a final testament of my devotion to the cause. Time will show who flinches and who remains steady.
For me, patriarchal stewardship in Christ’s example, not race, is my religion. Race is merely a vital dimension of that, one aspect of my tribal identity that I cannot and will not compromise.
So beautifully said.
Interesting commentary about the Northwest, Jackson. I understand what you mean when you say it can’t be explained on a comment board.
I think we should follow Kevin Macdonald’s advice and switch to the term “White ethnic advocate.” After all, the term for Blacks evolved — Negro, to Colored Person, to Black, to African-American, to Person of Color.
White Nationalist isn’t objectionable, but White ethnic advocate is probably a more useful descriptive. It’ explains something important, after all — why we are what we are. “White nationalist” could be just another subculture, like Harley Davidson rider or Jets fan. A White ethnic advocate is describing a positive action we are taking included in our descriptive group identity.
We have to systematize the accumulation of wealth in a group (Tribal) context the way Hindus, Pakistanis, Jews and Chinese do. As Kevin Macdonald said, there’s only 10 full time salaried White ethnic advocates in the country. We need to have tens of thousands, or millions of White families that are financially independent — not dependent on a corporation taht might “fire” them. We need to move on from the mobile, nuclear family that does what a boss tells them to do, to a tribal-entrepreneurial extended families who make a living Diaspora style, with businesses.
Being an entrepreneur just plain makes you more socially savvy, and gives you more of the sort of smarts on how to avoid being a casualty of economic instability. Tribal entrepreneurs accumulate in the good times, and then use savings to buy up assets for pennies on the dollar in bad times. They become immune to the effects of economic instability, and thus smooth out this instability for the rest of the population, even while acquiring more power and influence within it.
I am sick of this sort of stereo-typing. I have my own basement damn it!
I should have met up with you on the way through Indiana Matt. Hav you been to the Kinist website and forms?
danielj,
Let me know if you pass through, again.
I have not. I’ll check it out.
The best thing one can do is to establish bonds of true friendship and community with the white people around you. Ideology needn’t even be pushed that hard. People who understand that you are there for them, and have known personally the sacrifices you’ve made for them are far better allies and comrades than people who read your pamphlets, ape your sentiments or who never miss the next stop of the white power grateful dead show circuit.
Exactly, Vlad Katonic! Just being able to build some community out of these media saturated, lonely, depressed fellow citizens will be a huge achievement.
“We have a person in power who want to limit our freedoms”
We have a person in power who wants to limit our freedoms. Please fix the mistake and delete this comment.
Vlad Katonic says:
June 29, 2010 at 2:49 pm
The best thing one can do is to establish bonds of true friendship and community with the white people around you. Ideology needn’t even be pushed that hard. People who understand that you are there for them, and have known personally the sacrifices you’ve made for them are far better allies and comrades than people who read your pamphlets, ape your sentiments or who never miss the next stop of the white power grateful dead show circuit.
Very well said Vlad.
After wasting lots and lots of time trying to force “THE TRUTH” on reluctant White Americans, hanging out way too long with Libertarian Constitutionalist true believers who never win anything and seem to alienate every White person they meet – I went a different way – the way that Vlad recommends.
Start slow, get to know local Whites around you – see how they are, see what their loyalties are – get some kind of decent idea of what is possible and what is not possible.
You want local Whites to think that:
YOU ARE ON THEIR SIDE.
I worked very hard as a campaign volunteer for the most hotly contested Congressional campaign in the US ~ 2006 outside of San Diego. The Lib Dems pored huge $ against us and the GOP side had many, many candidates, factions dividing up and doing foolish things.
My candidate’s main theme was;
“He’s on your side”.
Our biggest issue was opposing illegal immigration, bad immigration, amnesty, but on all other issues our candidate was flexible – by far the largest employer in the area was the US Navy – our candidate put the world out that he had a record of delivering big $ defense spending to the NAVY.
I was proud to do many phone bank calls to local voters explaining why funding the navy was the key to national defense – and if there needed to be any budget cuts those would be done on the Air Force.
Now if any WN was working on a campaign in or around Colorado Springs CO – the home of the US Air Force Academy I would hope they would be smart enough to do the reverse: support White candidates who would bring home big $ to the Air Force, not the Navy.
PLAY TO WIN and let all local Whites around you understand that you are
ON THEIR SIDE.
You care about them, want to help them and actually have some ability to actually help them.
We won the Congressional Campaign. I had to use my Church contacts to pressure a religious right candidate to drop out of the general election after he put $ millions of his own money in to campaign commercials. But, we did pressure the guy to drop out and not split the vote and he did. We won.
After we won the election and he was again a US Congressman, my candidate was instrumental in killing the illegal alien amnesty.
My last piece of advice is to not hang out with slackers, loners, true believers in some race-less political or religious ideology (Libertarians being the worst).
As Vlad said, “The best thing one can do is to establish bonds of true friendship and community with the white people around you”.
I would add this:
“Kindness means loving your own kind”.
14 Words.
It actually took me alot of years of basically self-inflicted pain and several extremes before I came to this realization. At first, I was very idealistic and optimistic about reaching whites with truth and open discussion and hyper-excited activism, then fast-forward a few years, and I was totally pessimistic and nihilistic about the quality of people out there, and pretty much isolated myself from everyone but a handful of people. Neither approach proved healthy. Now, I think taking a more realistic approach with less grandiose goals and a larger appreciation for the fact that people are people (not ideal, perfect white men) and this has led to actual successes. It definitely pays off when people will stand up for you, knowing thru experience that you are a good guy to the core, who would, for examples, drive them to a legal obligation when they’ve lost their license, launch a manhunt for their missing child, offering to mow the lawn of your elderly neighbors, have frequent bbqs just to drink beer and shoot the shit, send food over to their house just because you happened to make a good dish that day, etc.
“Kindness means loving your own kind” -that sums it up Jack
Vlad Katonic says:
“It definitely pays off when people will stand up for you, knowing thru experience that you are a good guy to the core, who would, for examples, drive them to a legal obligation when they’ve lost their license, launch a manhunt for their missing child, offering to mow the lawn of your elderly neighbors, have frequent bbqs just to drink beer and shoot the shit, send food over to their house just because you happened to make a good dish that day, etc.
“Kindness means loving your own kind” -that sums it up Jack
Very well said kinsman!
And also, after the locals know that you are 100% good guy, loyal to them, they would trust their children’s life with you…. then maybe put the word out that you also supported Vlad the Impaler – Count Dracula of Romania – who took a rather tough line with NW Muslims.
🙂
Kin is part of kind.
kind (n.)
“class, sort, variety,” from O.E. gecynd “kind, nature, race,” related to cynn “family” (see kin), from P.Gmc. *gakundiz (see kind (adj.)). Ælfric’s rendition of “the Book of Genesis” into O.E. came out gecyndboc. The prefix disappeared 1150-1250. No exact cognates beyond English, but it corresponds to adj. endings such as Goth -kunds, O.H.G. -kund. Also as a suffix (mankind, etc.). Other earlier, now obsolete, senses in English included “character, quality derived from birth” and “manner or way natural or proper to anyone.” Use in phrase a kind of (1590s) led to colloquial extension as adv. (1804) in phrases such as kind of stupid (“a kind of stupid (person)”).
kind (adj.)
“friendly,” from O.E. gecynde “natural, native, innate,” originally “with the feeling of relatives for each other,” from P.Gmc. *gakundiz, from *kunjan (see kin), with collective prefix *ga- and abstract suffix *-iz. Sense development from “with natural feelings,” to “well-disposed” (c.1300), “benign, compassionate” (c.1300).
it’s also related to tribal words for rulers OE cyning, ger. koenig…as the figurehead/depository of tribal ‘luck’ (maegen)
I met Carolina Patriot at a “Tea Party” in Boston. Always enjoy reading his articles.
Yes.
Perhaps I should elaborate:
You are given a choice: go back 1700 years to Ireland or Ethiopia.
One all white and non-Christian, the other all black and Christian.
Your answer will give you the truth about yourself; what you chose to do with that truth is up to you.
CP:
Where are you… close? I am in Charleston.
email me at hhorse at gmail dot com
Mike
I guess you could say as a National Socialist (as opposed to a neo-nazi): race is my one and only religion, but that would be rather over-simplifying things.
I think the most fundamental question ‘White Nationalists’ need to answer is: what is a ‘White’ person? As it is isn’t a valid anthropological taxa and nor is it specific enough to be a collection of several taxa. Very few ‘White Nationalists’ have addressed themselves to this question, which is obviously just a teensy bit important and to me kind of belies the fact that ‘White Nationalism’ doesn’t really know what ‘White Nationalism’ is or is supposed to be. However I am speaking as an outsider looking in rather than as a ‘White Nationalist’ myself.
Nietzsche makes a valid point though: you can either have religion (meaning a group theism) or race as the basis of your philosophy. They are to a degree mutually exclusive and if you believe in the absolute saving grace of Christ it is rather difficult if nigh impossible to be a racialist in the actual as opposed to the colloquial sense (as belief in the power of Christ’s saving grace negates your belief in the nature of race as being an un-changing condition which reflects itself in behaviour etc). Even Luther in his ‘On the Jews and their Lies’ recognised this had to be the case, which you can see in spite of his harsh language regarding the jew he always comes back and leaves the door open for the ‘sincere jewish convert’.
“Nietzsche makes a valid point though: you can either have religion (meaning a group theism) or race as the basis of your philosophy. They are to a degree mutually exclusive and if you believe in the absolute saving grace of Christ it is rather difficult if nigh impossible to be a racialist” Karl Radl today
“I’m not trying to get into theological discourse but rather enlarging upon your point from my own perspective as a Catholic and as a National Socialist.”
Karl Radl, VNN forum, July 18, 2008.
http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1148866
I go by the Cosmic Slop (an hilarious hbo movie starring George Clinton) litmus test: if you are darker than a paper bag…
No white nationalist worth his salt cares about this site. And it doesn’t mean that your content isn’t good. You’re just not a revolutionary. You’re a whiner, much like Jim Giles with his assinine “strictly legal” campaign.
Any idiot that understands history knows that no revolution has even been won by “strictly legal” means. Other than jew, subversive revolutions, as has had happened in the the US. But its drawback is in it’s temporal length to revolution (in method – it takes a long time to win).
It’s sort of like a conservative investment portfolio. And that is how they work and win.
These are some of the reasons why many don’t align with you. All talk, like Giles, and no backbone.
“Nietzsche makes a valid point though: you can either have religion (meaning a group theism) or race as the basis of your philosophy. They are to a degree mutually exclusive and if you believe in the absolute saving grace of Christ it is rather difficult if nigh impossible to be a racialist” Karl Radl today
I was researching some issues in Christianity and pre-Christian European philosophy when I found this:
http://mailstar.net/downing.html
The page appears to entirely transcribe a short book:
(1) F. Gerald Downing, CHRIST AND THE CYNICS: Jesus and other Radical Preachers in First-Century Tradition, JSOT Press, Sheffield UK, 1988.
This book shows that the early Christians were followers of the Cynic philosophy – Taoists, in effect. The first part is Downing’s Preface; the second part is the parallel passages showing the Cynic derivation of much of the Synoptic Gospels. This material suggests that Jesus and his disciples were NOT Zealots, as Jewish writers like Hyam Maccoby and Robert Eisenman would have us believe.
Both Christians and Europagans might find that page – and the surrounding website – interesting.
The notions of spirits and exorcism in early Christianity, however, seem to have been quite apart from Cynic tradition.
Perhaps I should elaborate:
You are given a choice: go back 1700 years to Ireland or Ethiopia.
One all white and non-Christian, the other all black and Christian.
Your answer will give you the truth about yourself; what you chose to do with that truth is up to you.
Utterly false dichotomy.
“I think the most fundamental question ‘White Nationalists’ need to answer is: what is a ‘White’ person? As it is isn’t a valid anthropological taxa and nor is it specific enough to be a collection of several taxa. Very few ‘White Nationalists’ have addressed themselves to this question, which is obviously just a teensy bit important”
The answer is that you are White if:
A) You have mostly European ancestry (European meaning any of the indigenous light-skinned inhabitants of the European continent)
B) You look mostly European
C) You have an ethnic allegiance to your kinfolk
A more precise definition is not only impossible, but counter-productive. For example, trying to be precise with “at least 92% European ancestry according to a genetic test administered within 24 months of the present date by a certified laboratory”, with a long description of what is European and what is not, creates a requirement that is generally offensive to most people and very exclusionary. More importantly, there is never going to be a widespread consensus over a precise definition, there are a wide range of strongly-held views on the subject. This question is ultimately a red herring that causes division and distracts from the task at hand.
Ultimately, the goal is to create an ethnostate for Whites in North America. That ethnostate will devise the immigration and citizenship laws, based on the best judgement of its political body. I have every confidence that a White ethnostate governed by Whites would make a very reasonable decision on the issue. But for now, we need to take almost everyone we can get into the movement.
Andrew,
I understand what you are getting at.
My take is that you don’t need a precise definition unless you are resorting to a legal definition whereby a nation could then define its own citizenship according to a legal set of percentile parameters. Legal definitions are quite important, but they eventually fall apart under more rigorous philosophical arguments.
As a working definition I believe that many variables are at play. I often use the analogy of dog breeds to clarify my point. No one would deny that a Rottweiler or a German Shepard are definable breeds of dogs. But if they are mixed then what is the result? I would say the mongrel is “breedless.” If this were the result of an African and a European then I would say the mongrel is “raceless.” Races are real just as species are real. They have a certain definable-undeniable objectivity to them. Yet, many times they also have a more indefinable-questionable subjectivity around their edges. Evolutionarily speaking, we cannot tell exactly when a Bear becomes a wolf or a bat becomes an eagle or any other creature becomes some other creature. Yet, we do know that species are fundamentally different genetically, mentally, temperamentally, behaviorally, etc. They are separate categories even though there is sometimes some overlapping or bleedover.
My personal opinion is that we should not widen the definition of “whiteness” or “Europeanness” or “Caucasianness” (whatever term one is comfortable with) for short-term political or social gain. This would be the PC-equivalent of shooting ourselves in the foot. Black Americans have for 2 maybe 3 generations stretched the definition of “blackness” to the point where it doesn’t have any real meaning any longer. Soon the racial term “black” will mean nothing in this Third World mudhole we still mistakenly call America. Already, there is a vast amount of intra-racism within the black community simply because if you are 99% African or 15% African you are still considered black. Well, we Race Realists, Racial Tribalists and White Nationalists understand fully that this is not sustainable or intelligible even when this incoherent racial group votes predictably as a block for a “half-breed nigger” as Jesse Jackson – the infamous light-skinned, white-hating, race-baiting negro – once called Obama.
When we form a community we know who is white as practical decisions are made and emotional attachments are formed and alliances are kept. We know who is one of us, who is with us and who understands who wants to destroy us. That is the definition I seek to control and develop. We are white because our ancestors were white. If someone wants to get a DNA test to further validate their whiteness by putting a specific percentage on their ethnic makeup, then so be it. We need not overthink the working definition of whiteness. It speaks for itself…as long as we get out of its way.
Great thoughts.
Good day,
Britton
is this guy kidding? no folk support=no revolution. bomber with folk support=revolutionary, bomber w/o folk support=criminal nutcase. Very basic stuff. where are all these white nationalists who are ‘worth their salt’ and exactly what have they done? i heard some guys in the 80s robbed some banks and killed a radio dj. And then there was the guy who killed a plastic surgeon (i actually met him). whoopdeefriggindoo!
Hey provocateur! you’re number one! you’re number one! (guess which finger i’m holding up)