I am very impressed with Tom Baugh, an Annapolis grad and Desert Storm veteran who wrote “Starving the Monkeys” and appeared on the Political Cesspool. I had a good conversation with commenter “Joe of the Mountains” last night, and we agreed that there is plenty of reason to be optimistic. Today I happened to come across this interview with Tom Baugh, and what Baugh says is substantially the same as my conversation with Joe of the Mountains:
Fast forward to 8:30
Tom Baugh
If you are out there and you feel like you are at the end of the rope, I want you to hang in there, because the future, after the collapse, is going to belong to those of us who know how to create value, and your oppressors are going to go away soon. When the tyranny starts, what that means is they are about to go away because they can’t feed all these people. If you feel like you are at the end of your rope, get back to those basic principles, because your time will come.
I’m think a lot of the romanticizing of the Confederacy on this website is wrong-headed. In fact, the Union under Lincoln was much more anti-Jewish than the Confederacy, which stupidly considered Jews kin. Also, white nationalism took root in the northern states: Charles Lindbergh, Madison Grant, Francis Parker Yockey, not a Southerner among them. At the same time, a lot of white Southerners today are stupid Christian Zionists who want to send their children to die in wars for Israel and believes the kikes are “God’s Chosen people.”
Also keep in mind that the South was most eager to enter World War II against Hitler while the American First Committee was centered in the Midwest.
Much of the distaste for more slave states during the 19th century was from whites who knew that “slave state” meant that they couldn’t get a job or start a farm when some rich guy would just use slaves to undercut them. Lincoln after all wasn’t a New England Yankee but from Kentucky. Was the anti slavery sentiment really entirely from Unitarian New England liberals, or did whites from the upper south not want to see the Western prairies they were homesteading on turned into another New Orleans?
That wasn’t the Political Cesspool they appeared on. It was a libertarian radio show based in New Hampshire, not to be confused with Alex Linder’s show of the same name.
http://www.starvingthemonkeys.com/articles/HologramOfLiberty.html
seems to be a Lysander-Spooner-style critique.
Students of the Constitution should note the importance of CAMDEN and his legal philosophy on the framing of the Constitution.
http://uncontroversial.wordpress.com/tag/charles-pratt-lord-camden/
Thanks for the link Kievsky, I watched his other presentation and he gives a lot of food for thought. Filtering some of the more un-organic precepts of libertarianism/ayn randism of course, Baugh makes good points about making oneself valuable in a real way post collapse, even for those of us not necessarily skilled in the agricultural arts.
I see why Kievsky likes Baugh’s ideas, and they are all good. Still, when the ZOG approaches terminal velocity, it will declare martial law and attempt a gun-grab. At that point “ideas” won’t save you; if they can take your weapons, they will eventually kill you. The monkeys are not just going to “go away”. You have to be organized, networked – e.g., in a Constitutional Militia unit – and ready to shoot back. Don’t, in fact, plan on surviving the initial encounter with AT&F or whomever; no one lives forever. Plan on doing what the men at Lexington-Concord did. Any time in which a man can live a meaningful life and die a meaningful death, instead of doddering away in old age, is a great time to be alive.
I deleted the first two comments by commenter “anon” because they were some reference to the Civil War that had no relevance to this post. It was probably an attempt to make us not like the Political Cesspool. James Edwards operation is the best thing we got going.
I think that “creating value” even under these less than ideal conditions, is a radical act. Radical in the sense that Americans (White Americans) have been taken down a notch precisely because we don’t build stuff any more. That wasn’t our choice. They took away our productive capacity, the bastards.
Taking back production of tangible things, or at least establishing a second hand trade business that takes away marketshare from Wal-Mart et cetera, means “strengthen us weaken them.” The Walmartization of society has been a relentless “strengthen them weaken us.”
Reversing that trend is making war on them, as Walmartization has been making war on us. It’s difficult, but well within the realm of possibility. And well worth it. Our own lives are the battleground. We have the “home field advantage.” They must do everything by manufactured consent and leverage. We are, every one of us, the pressure points, and we can exert more pressure on ourselves and those around us than all hte advertising in the world.
“Creating value” is a term from Ayn Rand. Objectivism as a whole is kooky, but “creating value” is a priceless tidbit, especially in our times where all Americans do is marketing, advertising, reselling. It is a particularly timely concept. It is what we need to do now.
As far as Compassionate Fascists comment — there are so many people in this country — not enough for the ATF to break down all their doors. If and when they do that, it’s an admission that the government is not part of “the USA” any more. No one will have any illusions that the D.C. mafia has anything to do with the candy striped flag any more. A gun grab is their “nuclear option,” and if they use it, things will never be the same. They’ll have to change the flag if they do a gun grab.
They say “if you kill the king, be sure to kill him all at once.” A gun grab that fails to kill every patriotic American, or at least most of them, will simply strengthen the organic resistance in this country. The organinc resistance is everywhere. It is kept in the seed or germ stage, but there’s no denying it.
“They say “if you kill the king, be sure to kill him all at once.” A gun grab that fails to kill every patriotic American, or at least most of them, will simply strengthen the organic resistance in this country. The organinc resistance is everywhere. It is kept in the seed or germ stage, but there’s no denying it.”
I think that’s a good assessment. If you would have said that ten years ago, I would have disagreed.