The Complicit and Culpable Jews

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1. Thing is, just taking part in being one of the tribe means taking part in assaulting white America. How can an “involved” Jew claim otherwise?

   Here’s John Hartung’s money quote, for the umpteenth time:

   In-groups sandwich an outline for animosity, an organizing principle for prejudice, between layers of social support. Whether Christian or Muslim or Jewish, every extremist is supported by a small number of less extreme admirers and each of those supporters is buoyed, in turn, by a larger group of sympathizers. These connections are continuous right down to the bottom of the pyramid, where vaguely sympathetic in-group members are offended by the very extremists who would have no base, and no basis, without them. It is that vague sympathy which needs to be examined.

   Obviously that glosses over the distinct nature of Jewry which you’ve taken pains to point out, but it does the address the issue of “innocent Jews”. Jews as a tribe are waging war on us. A Jew’s claims of neutrality should be looked at with heavy skepticism. If they’re claiming Jewishness, they’re countering their own claims of innocence; who watches their entire tribe wage an unjust war on other tribes, continues to claim membership in that tribe, and can make an honest claim to neutrality?

   In my mind, the line for innocent Jews is drawn somewhere near where Phillip Weiss is standing. Weiss may be on one side of the line or the other, but he’s in the ballpark AFAICT. A Jew who considers Weiss a “self-hater” or “anti-Semite” or the like is clearly so far over that line on the Jewish side that he probably can’t even see it.

   Hmmm. Sometimes I wonder who we’re really talking to; our people, or Jews? Talking to Jews is a complete waste of time.

2. Talking to Jews is useless not least because Jews don’t understand themselves at all. It’s only from the outside that one can really begin to understand Jewry.

3. Firstly – nice Blog

   I was able to read quite nice things here. You should consider a few things. USA & Europe have the same problems concerning immigration, loss of prosperity and even more worse then this loss of identity. So if we have the same symptoms we might have the same cause.
   When you also considerer that this development starts in the US and later on in Europe you might come to that point that after the 2WW, Europe lost a huge part of its sovereignty. You can say that it might was in the interest of the US, but considering again the problems the USA faces today (and they have been always forecasted by some few), I doubt it hardly – and General Patton as well.
   So the question you should ask yourself: Die brave and trustful American Soldiers for your great country or for something else. And try to look back the last 100 years. Don’t forget that the interpretational sovereignty is and was in Hollywood and in the Wall street.
   Please excuse my english skills, I’m not an american.

4. I’m not saying that I believe all Jews are knowingly and actively conspiring to destroy White people and Western Civilization.

   I compare that problem with marijuana. Not everyone who smokes pot goes on to heavy drugs, but almost everyone who does heavy drugs started with pot. Ergo; pot isn’t always disastrous, but enough so.

   Not all Jews are bad, but enough Jews are.

5. There are only about 15,000,000 Jews in the world. They could be swept aside like a gnat if our own tribe wasn’t so pathologically susceptible to their influence. So that’s the problem — not the Jews, but our tribe’s susceptibility to their pernicious influence.

6. LEW: Don’t forget the 200 and some nukes they’ve got. I don’t think they’re all aimed at Damascus.

7. @Discard

   True enough. Israel has nuclear subs too. And I’m sure they won’t hesitate to use them either. But once again, it was fools from own tribe who let them obtain those nukes. Depending on whose story you believe, Israel either stole their nuke technology from the US, or the US turned it over voluntarily. It wasn’t a wise decision. It gave Israel the ultimate blackmail card. The Rosenbergs also stole nuclear technology in the 50s for the Soviet Union.

8. We weren’t pathologically susceptible to them before the invention of cinema and television. Before then they had to rely on bribing our rulers.

9. @Wandrin

   I’m very skeptical it was bribes in all or even most cases. What reason would Ted Kennedy, who grew up in the pre-mass media era, have to take a bribe when he was already rich? FDR was already rich too, very rich, so he had no reason to take a bribe either. And then there is Churchill and Wilson. Did they take bribes? No, the simpler explanation is that these members of our tribe’s elite went along with the Jews by choice.

10. It is easy to blame the Jews for the moral failure of the White Man. It is easy to blame the Jews for the financial failure of the White Man. It is easy to blame the Black Man for taking jobs from the White Man via affirmative action. It is easy to blame the feminist for destroying the mothers of the White Man. It is easy to blame the Mexican for sneaking in our country stealing benefits and low end jobs from the White Man. It is easy to blame the Moslem for converting blacks and bringing in their brothers to undermine the White Man’s religion. And that is where we are; blaming everyone else except the real root causes of our problems: Rich and Powerful White Men sold us out and got super lucky in that everyone else is getting the blame and cowardly, fear driven White Men in the middle class who do nothing but park their sorry asses in front of the TV, the newest dumb-country song, grind to the latest whigger tunes, or work aways as a slave to make their next dollar.

    The perfect crime: Sell out your flesh and blood and have others take the fall.

    When the White Man takes his life into his own hands, stops bending over and whining at his loses, stops tying to blame others, stops making excuses for his weakness and stupidity, then he will rise again. Or at least a small number of leaders will drag the rest out of the dung heap.

    But almost all discussion and efforts are put into blaming others for our weakness, stupidity, and cowardliness. Maybe it makes the new White Man feel better.

    Maybe the Jews, Blacks and Mexicans are laughing at all the whining and complaining from the White Man and they are glad, because they know that it empowers them and weakens us.

    White Men are brainwashed into submission. They believe and accept their fate as mental slaves to the Jew, the Black Man, the Mexican and the Moslem.

    Being a bond-servant to Jesus wore thin. Much better to be enslaved to mere mortals and the whims of mortals.

    Sherwood Smith
    If not us, who? If not now, when?

11. “Talking to Jews is useless not least because Jews don’t understand themselves at all.”

    They have zero concept of hypocrisy (it literally has no equal word in Hebrew) and psychological projection.

    One of my Jewish co-workers the other day was ranting and raving about Islamic-Arabic immigration into the USA… without realizing that he himself was just a dirty semite as well and is to be considered even worse… since he is Jewish to boot!!!

12. Lets stay on topic here – this isn’t a thread about our own people’s susceptibility to Jewish influence, or apparent inability to act against it even when identified. This was an excellent blog entry that explains WHY some, many, perhaps most Jews are a problem for the White Western world! It is insightful not becaue it “names the Jew” but because, in brief, it EXPLAINS THE JEW – the Jew and his role in harming the West and our people.

    It is critical that the uninitiated come to understand this at least at some level. If they do not, all the pissing and moaning about Muslims, Mexicans, criminal Blacks and what have you won’t change a G-damned thing in the long run.

13. LEW: I think that Israel’s subs are German made diesel-electric boats, armed with nuclear cruise missiles. Don’t laugh at D-E propulsion, it’s come a long way since WW2, and they’re quieter that nuclear boats because they don’t need to run cooling pumps for the reactors when submerged.
    I think they also developed their weapons in cooperation with South Africa. They didn’t need to steal the technology, they had a very big role in developing it.

14. How would anyone know how many Jews there are?

15. Yes, when it comes to a 10-weighted explanation of how it has come to pass that the 2% dictates to the 98%, most of the “credit” goes to organized Jewry: 6 parts the Tribe – via smarts, sheer mailgnancy, and racial-collective consciousness, 3 parts the sell-out shabbatz goy “leaders” (from the original neo-con, Churchill, thru our own demicans/republicrats etc.), and 1 part the rest of us.

    @Lew, re Churchill: always was cosy with rich Jews, via common class interest. WC went broke during 2nd, 1937 market crash, and was bailed out by a Zionist cabel involving de Beers, Oppenheim diamond magnates and other Jew plutoctats. It was via Churchill that Zion then turned would should have been a minor tiff between Poland/Germany into a European and then a world war. As to Wilson, FDR…they had their own purposes. Jews do not monopolize Evil, they just concentrate and exploit it.

16. Addendum re Zionist nucs. Israel developed most of its nuclear “hardware” in cooperation with the S. African atomic bomb program, including at least one actual test. Fissionable nuclear material + molybdenum triggers was/were “liberated” from US stocks with connivance of Pentagon Zionists during 1970s-80s.

17. I stand corrected on Churchill.

18. There are only about 15,000,000 Jews in the world.

    This is not verified. The problem is over the years the statistics have been tricked. America’s Jewish population is significantly underreported, for example, since many Jewish immigrants came in the late 19th/early 20th century under the ethnic guise of whichever nation they emigrated from, for example Jews from Germany were Germans, and those from Poland Poles, etc. Because of this error in reporting dating back a century, Jews are reported as 2% of the population when they are certainly more numerous than that. Who could believe that anyway? Every urban area in the US has hordes of them. I know we will never have an accurate estimation of just how many there are, but it is a considerable number certainly not lower than 10-12 million.

19. Umm, the 2% figure is not based on immigrants from the previous generation, it’s based on people alive today.

20. (as a sidebar)
    I have long been sceptical about the actual number of Jews in the population(and the world for that matter). First of all, I personally know a variety of ethnic Jews that simply do not self-identify as “Jewish.” Some are descended from Christian-Converts from generations past, some who have “only” a Jewish father(or non-maternal forebears) and thus do not identify as an ethnic Jew, some who have simply dropped the “Jewish” identity from their background for unexplained reasons, some “I’m just an ‘American'” types, etc. I have lived in New York for over forty years – I know and have known a LOT of Jews. On the whole, their numbers are surely under-counted. To what degree I cannot say.

21. In other words, Jews are no more or less culpable for negative effects on White Culture than termites are culpable for eating houses. You can’t blame something for being what it is, you can only take precautions so that it doesn’t affect you. But that does open another can of worms, doesn’t it …

22. The last figure I read for Jews in this country is 2.4%. They might seem to be more numerous to us because we notice them, like we notice mudsharks, but 7 million Jews is probably close. 1.5 million in NYC, half a million in LA, that leaves 5 million more for Chicago, Boston, Frisco, Philadelphia, Seattle, Atlanta, St Louis, and every other large city in the country. Jews are pretty thin on the ground in places like Arkansas or South Dakota, just an occasional newspaper editor or professor, because they are far and away an urban people. 50,000 Jews that everyone pretends are White in a city of 500,000 are enough to make a lot of trouble. You don’t need a lot of numbers to have influence if you are backed by the financial world and the media.

23. LEW
    “No, the simpler explanation is that these members of our tribe’s elite went along with the Jews by choice..”

    Fair point. I was thinking in terms of you saying “we” are pathologically susceptible back in the time when only a few people were involved in the decisions but that doesn’t neccessarily change the point as the elites at the time were a subset of “we” also.

24. “It is easy to blame the Jews for the moral failure of the White Man.”

    No it isn’t. It’s impossible anywhere except a few corners of the internet. However you can blame white people everywhere.

    That’s all you need to know.

25. I don’t know how this isn’t clear to any WN or realist at this point. It isn’t about simply placing blame on Jews and insisting we “gentiles” have to responsibility in our downfall – that would be, and is asinine. The point is that by and large, Jews are, in distressingly large part and numbers NOT what they are represented to be in the Western world! Whether it’s the Christian Zionist and his holy “Chosen People,” or the Leftist and his impossibly “brilliant/benevolent” Jew charicature, or the general mainstream who realigiously repeat all the nonsense about the poor, put upon Jew, always innocent, always misunderstood, always persecuted and often targetet for violence and of course, extermination (the pinnacle of this belief is of course Holocaust orthodoxy); it all paints the Jews as oppressed VICTIM always, and often it is we, the wicked “goyim” who are the oppressors!

    This is the lone accepted narrative regarding Jews in the West – any departure therefrom is howled down and roundly condemned as the foulest “Anti-Semitism” and “Hate.” That is the crux of the problem as I see it. It isn’t about hating all(or any) Jews, and it isn’t about pretending we Whites are ourselves just poor victims. It is about the collective damage done when unhealthy Jewish influence and White foolishness and cowardice come together. But first, we MUST be able to discuss that negative influence without being smeared as promoting “genocide, holocausts” or similar madness.

26. Of course it seems like there are more Jews if you live in NYC. Try living in other parts of the country, you can go years without meeting one. This idea that there are a huge number of uncounted Jews is one of the conspiracy theories that often crops up on the racial right with absolutely no evidence. Remember, if there are really way more Jews than we think, they aren’t so overrepresented among the elites after all. It would make sense for the organized Jewish community to play up the number of Jews to deflect resentment, not the other way around.

    Svigor, I classify Jews into four groups based on their attitudes towards Jewish ethnocentrism and white ethnocentrism. Jews who are hostile to Jewish ethnocentrism but favorable to white ethnocentrism are virtually non existent. Jews who are favorable to both are rare, but do exist. These would be genuinely paleo-conservative/pro-white type Jews. Jews who are favorable to Jewish ethnocentrism and hostile to white ethnocentrism are a large majority of Jews. Most liberal, conservative and neoconservative Jews fall into this category. This group dominates the organized Jewish community. Finally, Jews who are hostile to both forms of ethnocentrism make up a signifacant minority of Jews. These people identify as liberals and leftists. Neocons call these people “self-hating Jews,” but they are simply applying the same morality to their own group that Jews expect whites to abide by.

    Obviously, these classifications are not rigid.

27. I’d say that we ought to at least triple Jew population numbers. Just pulled that outta nowhere.

28. Remember all the Mamzers – the half-Jews. They usually identify with the Jew genetics – as mulattoes identify with the Black DNA.

29. We will never expose Jews as a malevolent and hostile tribe without broaching the JQ in a reasonable way. No one will ever be persuaded by the conspiratorial Jew obsessives within WN circles — and I’m not suggesting VK is one. This group does blame “the Jews” for pretty much everything. If we point out the hostility of Hollywood and Jewish intellectuals, the influence of AIPAC and the raw hate in the Talmud, that might convince somebody. Including Jewish psychiatrists in this group strikes me as excessive. It just dilutes the most important point which is that Jewish intellectuals are doing the real damage. The rhetorical style in this article is also a problem. If a newcomer lands here and finds a long list of “Jew,” “Jew,” “Jew,” “Jew,” the newcomer will tune out even though the list is true.

30. And Jewish pedophiles and perverts? I just noticed that. Come on. Tying Jews to pedophilia isn’t productive. It discredits the whole list. And yes, I know what the Talmud says and all about the Jew sex industry that grabs girls from Eastern Europe and forces them into brothels in Israel. Those activities are done by crime syndicates and every group has them.

31. “How would anyone know how many Jews there are?”

    There are so many cryptos and marranos (hidden) Jews running around that it is impossible to ascertain!

    1.) Madeline Albright claimed to be a White Catholic for many years… then all of a sudden discovered she was really Jewish… yeah right!

    2.) Wesley Clarke thought he was a White guy for years supposedly, then all of sudden discovered he was Jewish, yeah, uh huh.

    3.) Sen. George Allen ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Allen_(U.S._politician)#Mother.27s_religious_and_ethnic_background )… etc., etc…

    Whites have a serious problem facing an opponent that is difficult to identify!!!

32. @Earl

    I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but I have had enough of your Catholic bashing. It’s a element of almost every comment. It’s clear your goal is to foment divisiveness. I just wasted a comment criticizing you, another OD commenter supposedly on the pro-White side. Others have pointed out your unreasonable focus on Catholics as well, all comments wasted focusing on Catholic bashing instead of the issue at hand. Now this discussion might get derailed into the peripheral issue of Catholicism and the tone of your posts instead of a much more important topic, which is Jewish indentity making it difficult to identify the enemy. I take it derailing discussion of Jews is the intent. I’m am beginning to understand and appreciate why Jack Ryan deletes comments.

33. Lew: By way of broaching the JQ in a reasonable manner, I just forwarded a MSM news article about the Federal Reserve to a politically involved but uninformed man I know. I pointed out that all five names in the article, Bernanke and all the experts quoted, are Jewish, and asked him what is the probability of that happening randomly. Assuming a Jewish population of 2.5 % (a little high), that would be .025 to the 5th power, or .000000009765625, which is just shy of a one in a billion chance if Jews were not grossly overrepresented among banksters.
    That even amazes me. Are my calculations correct?
    Anyway, I let him come up with answers. Keep in mind, we call it the Jewish Question. The answers are obvious.

34. LEW, his comment was about crypto-Jews masquerading as Catholics, the same comment as others made.

35. @Wanderer. It wasn’t just about crypto-Jews. He threw in an aside about Irish micks as well. I don’t see how that’s productive when he could have just said John Kerry looks a little Irish, or whatever. Anyway, I won’t say anything else about it. It’s really up to HW and the editors to address the problem if they perceive one.

36. @Discard: That’s a great angle to take on conspicuous and outrageous Jewish overrepresentation in key institutions. What are the odds of it happening randomly? Of course many will just counter by saying Jews
    are overrepresented because Jewish culture heavily encourages high academic achievement and Jews have naturally high IQs. So we need to be ready to answer those objections because there is some truth to both.

37. Lew: True, Jewish IQ averages about 115, and their culture promotes academic achievement, but that not enough to explain this degree of disparity. Jews are almost 4% of the White population, if you care to include them. With an average White IQ of 100, and a standard deviation of 15, one out of six Whites matches the Jewish intellect. That is, there are over 30 million Whites in this country that match or beat the Jewish average. Since half the Jews have IQs below 115, there are less than two million Jews with IQs over 115. Smart Whites outnumber smart Jews fifteen to one. It’s not innate ability that explains Jewish power.
    BTW, if you’re having this conversation with a liberal, remind them that IQ doesn’t really exist. If IQ did exist, Blacks would not be equal to Whites.

38. “ATBOTL”

    Just for clarification – I reside in New York but have been all over this country for business, pleasure and what have you. I have often been stunned to find Jews in the most seemingly unlikely places – and in number! The exceptions have been, in my experience, fairly rare.
    Now, I wasn’t personally suggesting their numbers are wildly larger or two and three times the estimates. I do, however, maintain, that there seem to be more ethnicially descended Jews(or “partial” Jews if one prefers) than the numbers seem to indicate.
    I am fully prepared to concede that this may not be the case – but it appears to be possible for the reasons I and others have stated.
    Honestly, this isn’t really an issue one way or the other, it’s what they do, not how many there are(within reason) that concerns us most!

39. I think there is nothing to be gained by fulminating and obsessing over the JQ. They are what they are and there is no hope of any of us ever changing their behavior. I DO think we need to pay more attention to dealing with and punishing the Whites who collaborate with them or their agenda.

    Jews have not been the first group to play one faction against the other; they have just been phenomenally good at it. That’s how Emmanuel Celler exploited Kennedy and Hart’s age-old Irish-Catholic animus against WASPs to get them to back the disastrous Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. I don’t think either of these two idiots foresaw the immediate consequences of the can of worms they had opened. I am sure they believed they envisioned a population shift to Catholic immigrants – White Catholic immigrants who would make the Catholic Caucus rule supreme in Congress.

    WN intellectuals, like Kevin McDonald, like to talk about Jews as a hostile elite, but they have nothing on Whites! Look at how the Kennedys have used up and discarded any lower-class White girl who has had the misfortune of dealing with them. Mary Jo Kopechne was only the first and most infamous example, but there is the William Kennedy Smith rape accusation and there is that girl Joseph Kennedy crippled. There is a big disconnect between the White political elite and average White people. If they can’t find another White elite to marry; they marry Jews like Chelsea Clinton and Jenna Bush. It’s all very, very cozy.

    Look at all those elite WASPs who signed off on every Affirmative Action measure in Congress knew they were co-signing measures that affirmatively discriminated against lower-class WASPs. And they did this more to hold onto power for their own children – no matter how inept or mediocre – rather than see them supplanted and replaced by upwardly mobile and ambitious WASPs, no matter how brilliant they are. There weren’t that many American political family dynasties before Affirmative Action was put in place. Now we have the Kennedys and the Bushes, to name only the two most notable.

    My convictions where these political dynasties are concerned are bolstered by the reactions of the GOP to the Tea Party activists. We see a bunch of entrenched RINOs who have started their own political dynasties losing their minds over these upstarts. Rove has gone into meltdown over them time and time again and the GOP is worse about badmouthing Tea Party candidates than the Democrats are.

    In the meantime, we need to purge the traitors who collaborate with a Jewish agenda even if it is for their own selfish ends. Then we need to focus on an implicit attack against Jewish interests. It is easier to break a stool by slowly sawing its legs off than trying to dash it against the floor. Your average White person has been too brainwashed by The Greatest Generation Fighting The Good War and beaten down by Holocaust Fatigue to ever feel comfortable with a direct assault on Jewish perfidy. However, they instinctively loathe the Jewish agenda which is alien and threatening to their own interests, so if implicit approaches are used that NEVER name the Jew, but attack their agenda, they will sign onto it without another thought.

40. To be honest, I’m tired of talking about Jews so frequently. I think that if white nationalists could actually find a way to temper Jewish power and influence, that would be great.

    But otherwise, I’ve come to realize that ranting about the Jews just makes us look bad.

    1) It makes us look weak. I mean, think about it. We claim that we’re a strong and enduring race, and we are. And yet, we’re all being held hostage by a hostile elite that’s only 2% of the population?

    To an outside observer, that doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in white people, much less white nationalists.

    2) It only provides fodder to our enemies who think we’re psychotic Nazis. Yes, I know, we’re going to be called racists and Nazis no matter what we do.

    But remember: We’re trying to reach out to our fellow white Americans, and most of them find rants about Jews to be distasteful. Besides, why would they join our movement upon being told all these esoteric conspiracy theories about Jews?

    Again, we’re trying to reach out to our fellow white Americans, and esoteric conspiracy theory type language just won’t do it.

    Look, I’m well aware of the negative influence Jewry has had. I know of Jacques Derrida, Susan Sontag, Howard Zinn, Noel Ignatiev, Herbert Marcuse and the rest of the Frankfurt School, the Jewish role behind the 1965 immigration act, the role of the ADL in pushing hate speech laws and attempting to censor white activists, their role in being the primary purveyors of pornographic perversion, the way they use Hollywood and the media to weaken white identity, the way Jewish neocons subverted true conservatism and got us involved in disastrous Middle Eastern wars, the negative role of the Israel lobby, etc.

    And the depressing list goes on and on.

    I’m the last person who needs to be lectured on the Jewish question.

    However, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. I’m tired of white nationalists simply preaching to the choir and going nowhere. One of the things that attracted me to this site was the fact that the editors actually challenge their fellow white nationalists and ask them to devise new strategies.

    Esoteric conspiracy theories and gloom and doom “we’re the hostage of Jews who are destroying Western civilization” just won’t encourage people to join our cause.

    Now how white nationalists should actually go about winning people over to their cause could be another post.

    I’ll end this post by simply telling Jews this: Be careful what you wish for, for it might come true.

    Jews wanted a multicultural, multiracial, diversity wonderland, and they’ve got it. But my question to them is this: Do they think that non-whites (who will soon be the majority) are going to give two hoots about holocaust guilt or their precious Israel?

    All I would say to Jews is that they had a pretty good deal with us, and that sooner or later their attempts to weaken white America will greatly backfire.

41. The sequence should be
    1. Describe the problem
    2. Analyze the causes of the problem
    3. Develop a strategy to counter the cause

    For example
    1. White kids being the targets of anti-white psychological abuse in schools and universities – diversity is good, whiteness is bad.

    2. How did that happen? What was the precise mechanism that allowed things to get this way?

    The precise mechanism that allowed it to happen was cultural marxists stealthing into universities and teacher education around the time of WWII.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M

    3. There are lots of specific political things you could do to counter this if you had some power but in lieu of that the best thing we can do is tell people how it happened.

    If you look at all the single issue problems and follow the chain of events back thay all have (at least partly) the same root. They have (at least partly) the same root because jews see it as being in the interest of their security to reduce the group cohesion of the host population. If you turn their whole persecuted minority schtick around they are basically *screaming* their motive in our faces. There’s nothing esoteric about it; it’s just tribal warfare conducted by stealth. WNs need to understand that removing jews from our living space is a vital long-term strategy if we want our nations to survive.

    Personally i have no problem with them having their own country somewhere but while they are in ours they will always try and undermine the majority population because they think it makes them safer and it does make them safer until it goes wrong – which it always does.

    That (imo) should be the strategy and given the facts i can’t see any reason to doubt that other than people having some other axe to grind like anti-catholic or anti-anglo that they can’t let go of.

    However…strategy and tactics aren’t the same thing. If you’re talking to mainstream people you don’t need to mention jews at all. The octopus has lots of legs and you can attack any of the legs without mentioning jews explicitly
    — corporate elite
    — cheap labor Republicans
    — voter importing Democrats
    — cultural marxist educators
    — left-liberal media
    — neocon media
    — dictator judges

    Some WNs and WN sites should talk about the strategy i.e showing the common ethnic link between the corporate elite leg of the octopus and the cultural marxist educator leg of the octopus while others stealth up and attack the individual legs.

    I think the conflict on this thread is between those who think this site should be clearly on the strategy side of the line or the tactical side of the line.

42. I understand your points were meant as an example, Wanderin, but I still have to put in a different #3.

    #3. Provide your children with the mind-weapons needed to overcome anti-white propganda. My daughter told her seventh grade teacher that “public schools are mandatory government indoctrination camps for children”, a phrase she found humorous that I had repeated often enough for her to remember it. She told her eight grade teacher that “of course I have my own rifles” when he was riffing on the need for more gun control. She went to the dean in college to get a pass on the diversity requirement, based on the fact she was taking Italian.

    Home school, private school, or, if you really want to teach them how to survive bring them up as resistance fighters inside the institutions from a young age. My kids both had to read both the leftist drivel (Zinn, etc.) the schools assigned *and* my alternate assignments, and then explain the points of views that both authors were asserting, and discuss why the schools was supporting the Zinn viewpoint.

    A lot of work for both parents and kids, but they are going into adulthood understanding what’s real. That’s the goal.

43. Political Pessimist: I agree with your analysis.

44. Jackson,
    “Provide your children with the mind-weapons needed to overcome anti-white propganda.”

    Good point. I do this myself – like when they’d been taught the anti-white version of slavery i told them all the bits the teachers left out. This not only helps to neutralize that particular piece of psychological abuse it has the dual effect of making them more distrustful of the multicult priesthood in general.

45. The jews up in arms over the Tea Party are right, the Tea Party IS anti-semetic, it’s just that their too dumb to realize it. Virtually every one of the things ordinary Americans hates about what has happened to the country is the result of jewish influence and pet projects of the American Jewish community. However try to tell them to connect the dots and they go balistic. I just don’t think ordinary Americans outside of a few urban centers have any jewdar at all. They don’t seem to realize how “cliquey” jews are. A good example of this was when I was driving home from work at 2 AM about seven years ago and the only thing on the radio was a rock bottom, AM station playing the dismal “John and Jeff -Third Shift Radio Show.” These amateurs were killing airtime playing dating games with callers asking a bunch of background queestions. One question to a ditzy chick was “What religion are you?” She responded “Well…I was born Jewish but I’m Spiritual.” They then asked her “What is your nationality?” I thought “Duh! She just told you she’s Jewish. Why the heck do you need to ask a question you already got an answer to?” To my shock she replied “Hungarian and Romanian.” WTF? She’s of JEWISH ethnicity, do white Americans think a bunch of Germans or Hungarians just sat down one day 1500 years ago and decided “From now on our religion is Jewish.” Yet these guys on the show seemed to buy it and think they were dealing with a “Hungarian.” It seems that posing as one of the nationalities they lived amongst and hiding their jewishness is very common amongst them. Look at the national orgin stats for the US, particularly stats from 30 or 40 years ago before any sizable immigration came from the post Soviet Union. You see nations like “Russia, Hungary, Romania, etc” listed as major contributors to the great wave of immigration. Yet I grew up in Chicagoland, ground zero for that Old World Immigration thing and I NEVER met a single ethnic Russian, or Romanian or Hungarian and unlike “Little Italy, Polishtown, etc” knew of no ethnic neighborhoods of those ethnicities 30 years back. That immigration was 99.99% jewish, plus a good deal of “German, Polish, etc.” I don’t think there are vast numbers of them, but they certianly do like to stay off the books as officially “Jewish.”

46. Nightowl: This “Jews are a religious group, not an ethnic group” is a lie they reserve for outsiders. If you’re going to explain it to Whites, you need to point out that Jews have their own language, their own customs, their own history, even their own homeland, just like Poles or Frenchmen. Additionally, to make themselves even more ethnically distinct, they have their own religion. They have all the attributes of an ethnic group or nation, plus one more trait, an exclusive religion. Ask the clueless Whites you meet how it is that Mormons and Methodists don’t have their own language and their own country.

47. “I’m not saying that I believe all Jews are knowingly and actively conspiring to destroy White people and Western Civilization.”

    The cultural marxist types are like that but i think they’re actually only a small percentage. The more fundamental problem is i think the great majority of jews see weakening the group cohesion of the host population as pre-emptive self-defence. They don’t see it as morally bad (as long as they keep re-fuelling the paranoia with endless holocaust movies).

48. There are only about 15,000,000 Jews in the world. They could be swept aside like a gnat if our own tribe wasn’t so pathologically susceptible to their influence. So that’s the problem — not the Jews, but our tribe’s susceptibility to their pernicious influence.

    “There are only about 15,000,000 fraudsters in the world. They aren’t the problem, it’s all those little old ladies pathologically susceptible to their influence. So that’s the problem – not the fraudsters, but the little old ladies’ susceptibility to their charms.”

    I mean, what’s the point of your comment? What’s the upshot? That we shouldn’t jail people for fraud? That we shouldn’t attack Ashkenazis?

    If you find that people are susceptible to a brainwashing technique, you just blame the victims and that’s that?

    I think it’s silly to say “the problem’s not Ashkenazis, it’s that people keep falling for their tricks.” No, the problem is that people keep falling for their tricks, and we’re not allowed to attack Ashkenazis for their behavior. Your comment seems a bit too close to defending Ashkenazis for comfort, IMO.

    I’m very skeptical it was bribes in all or even most cases.

    Seems like you’re skeptical of everything but blaming the victim.

    So let’s turn your silly tactics back around. When whites kick Ashkenazis out of their countries en masse, it’ll all be the Ashkenazis’ fault, since they’ll be the idiots letting us get away with it.

    The holocaust was Jews’ fault, since they let whites get away with it.

    What reason would Ted Kennedy, who grew up in the pre-mass media era, have to take a bribe when he was already rich?

    I dunno, genius, why does he bother with politics when he has no need for anything? When did “having enough money” ever stop a rich guy from wanting more?

    How would anyone know how many Jews there are?

    Indeed, there’s no way to “know,” unless you’re willing to take the Ashkenazis’ word for it.

49. Umm, the 2% figure is not based on immigrants from the previous generation, it’s based on people alive today.

    Umm, it’s based on a headcount by Ashkenazis, for Ashkenazis. They have a bridge to sell you, too.

50. 1) It makes us look weak. I mean, think about it. We claim that we’re a strong and enduring race, and we are. And yet, we’re all being held hostage by a hostile elite that’s only 2% of the population?

    To an outside observer, that doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in white people, much less white nationalists.

    That weakness being, tolerance of a tiny minority holding the reins of our society. I could give a shit if telling the truth makes us look weak, or not. A trivial concern IMO.

    2) It only provides fodder to our enemies who think we’re psychotic Nazis. Yes, I know, we’re going to be called racists and Nazis no matter what we do.

    But remember: We’re trying to reach out to our fellow white Americans, and most of them find rants about Jews to be distasteful. Besides, why would they join our movement upon being told all these esoteric conspiracy theories about Jews?

    Again, we’re trying to reach out to our fellow white Americans, and esoteric conspiracy theory type language just won’t do it.

    Well, there’s always Bill O’Reilly. Have at it.

    Esoteric conspiracy theories and gloom and doom “we’re the hostage of Jews who are destroying Western civilization” just won’t encourage people to join our cause.

    There’s nothing “esoteric” about it. Anyone who can handle politics can handle the JQ. I’m not a doom and gloom kind of guy, I’m actually relentlessly optimistic, that’s just my personality, but I’m also relentlessly honest. If that scares away sheep, so be it. Sheep never did anything but follow in the history of the world. I’m not going to sugarcoat the situation. We have cancer. If we don’t do something about it, the results will be far worse than if we do.

    And frankly, I’ve moved on past caring overmuch if the white race wakes up or not. I’m going to do the right thing, and if whites want to choose demographic dissolution, that’s their business.