Live Thread: DREAM Act Vote

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The vote on the DREAM Act is coming up at 9:30 AM CST. It should take place in less than 30 minutes. Chambliss and Webb are on the Senate floor arguing about Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell right now.

VICTORY: DREAM Act fails to pass cloture, 55 to 41.

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    5 blue dogs. They have held up Dem progress and the country’s progress for 2 years at least. Go to hell all five of you. The south and these state in the midwest with the smallest population with this much power is criminal.

    55Y 41N. As for the five Dems who defected, may they rot for this.

    Please list the 5 Dems who voted against it. (0+ / 0-)
    i would like to know because i like to know who not to donate to and help defeat them.

    Three Republican Senators voted to allow the bill to come up for a vote: Richard Lugar of Indiana, Bob Bennett of Utah, and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska.

    These three deserve credit. Bennett and Murkowski, of course, have already been punished by their party by defeat in primary elections for being far too reasonable and open-minded to be acceptable members of today’s Republican party.

    Look for Lugar to either retire of be defeated in his primary next year.

    Sanity is a fatal drawback for Republicans now.

  2. Kos weighs in on the DREAM Act.

    There are Democrats I expect to be assholes. I never thought Jon Tester would be among them.

    Anybody who votes to punish innocent kids is an asshole. Plain and simple. And while I expect it from Democrats like Ben Nelson and C-Street denizen Mark Pryor, I honestly thought Jon Tester was different. I was wrong. I am now embarrassed that I worked so hard to help get him elected in 2006. I feel personally betrayed.

    Not only will I do absolutely nothing to help his reelection bid, but I will take every opportunity I get to remind people that he is so morally bankrupt that he’ll try to score political points off the backs of innocent kids who want to go to college or serve their country in the military.

    To me, he is the Blanche Lincoln of 2012 — the Democrat I will most be happy to see go down in defeat. And he will. Nothing guarantees a Republican victory more than trying to pretend to be one of them.

    Let’s hope he carries through on his threat to help defeat Jon Tester in Montana. In Arkansas, Blanche Lincoln’s defeat got us John Boozman in the Senate who is a hardline restrictionist.

  3. These people are heavily dependent on minority votes to win elections but they can’t afford to give them too much leeway because then they end up disenfranchised by ethnocentric blacks and hispanics. Would you expect them to say anything different? I’ll bet not one of those White employees at Daily Kos lives in a multicultural neighborhood or if they have a family, send their kids to public school.

  4. Not to worry, the Nightmare Act has no chance of passing. Senator Hunter Wallace of Alabama has the decisive vote. He ran for office and won despite stringent Jewish and negroid opposition. That’s getting shit done in the real world.

  5. I think the hispanics already know what’s going on. A ten year old child can figure out what’s happening here.

  6. I wish I could take credit for this.

    Unfortunately, it was all the “lemmings” and the worthless conservatives and even scum like John McCain and Lindsey Graham that killed the DREAM Act.

    Who would have ever thought?

    Lindsey Graham was of more assistance in stopping the DREAM Act than the vanguard! And William Gheen of ALIPAC too.

    That’s embarrassing.

    I will deal with this in my next post tomorrow. Party time tonight.

  7. Rodger,

    You need to let them know what is happening here.

    Seeing how we defeated the DREAM Act three times in four months this year, when Democrats were at their highwater mark in the Senate no less, I think you should go over to the Daily Kos and tell them “the system” is rigged and “worse is better” and “revolutionary action” by La Raza and Luis Guiterrez is desperately needed.

    Go forth vanguardists! Go forth to Reddit to encourage Democrats NOT to vote in 2012.

  8. Before I sign off for the night (the beer is already flowing), I want to let the vanguardists here know that for a one time $120 cash donation you can “take action” and get your official “Vanguard” membership card from Greg Johnson.

  9. Now that I think about it, I might go over there myself later and pretend to be a progressive to spread the “worse is better” and “the system is broken” memes.

    That would make you better than Houdini, wouldn’t it? All the writing you do here, all the browsing and posting you do on other Neocon sites, all the White Nationalist boards you check out every day, all the Leftist sites you have to traverse, all the reading and research, all the Conservative rallies and local organizing you do, all the college football…….you can do all of this and still find time to “pretend” to be a progressive on more websites? Considering I didn’t even throw in the girlfriend/child that you juggle, I’d have to say you should be up for some kind of award. What’s your secret?

  10. “lemmings”

    “scum like John McCain”

    McCain is himself a lemming. Although now less so than he was. Why? Because he felt betrayed by Hispanics mostly casting their votes for Obama. So, when it comes to curing the lemming syndrome, worse is indeed better. Unless McCain is in fact such a masochist he thinks losing out on his final chance to become president was not “worse”, but “better”.

    “official “Vanguard” membership card from Greg Johnson.”

    I’d fork over $500 for an official decoder ring. $1000 if it had Michael O’Meara’s likeness on it.

  11. Hunter, are you reading the comments at DKos? They are totally unhinged.

    I can’t wait to see what they are acting like next year when we pass a federal version of the AZ law.

  12. “Captainchaos says:
    December 18, 2010 at 9:49 pm”

    See? That was easy. And it didn’t even take 5000 words or so like Trainspotter.

  13. @ Otis

    What makes you think Obamao will sign Federal AZ style immigration reform?

    He won’t and I don’t want him too. What I want is for congress to pass the Anti Hispanic Act of 2011 and then for Obama to veto a bill with 65% approval thereby guaranteeing he loses 47 states while guaranteeing immigration becomes the number one issue of the 2012 elections.

    Some times things just work out too perfectly.

  14. Although White America is in the ICU at this point, I think the lesson from today is that there is still a bit of a pulse and heart beat out there across the land.

    DailyKos is outraged because they sense their moment is over.

    Yes, this was a defensive victory in one skirmish in a larger war the enemy is otherwise winning, but the context here is important; the Dream Act was defeated multiple times when the Democrats had 59 seats in the Senate, a huge majority in the house, and a Black Supremacist in the White House. Amnesty was also defeated when the George W Bush/Rove/Frum/Gerson faction of the GOP held sway over the federal government.

    So basically, the White conservative grassroots continues to show healthy instincts on immigration. The US Federal government is also not yet so far gone that it can’t be compelled to respond to the desires of the conservative grassroots, assuming the right kind of Republicans are holding the reigns of power (Jeff Sessions, David Vitter, Rand Paul, etc.).

  15. Rodger may be on to something here. I’ve long said that almost all White liberals are practical racists, that is, they talk integration and live segregation. These Demscum KNOW that the Mexicans will vote Mexican, no matter how much a Gringo does for them. They’d probably like to keep them at a nice, controllable 15%, a solid block of Demscum voters, but they might finally be figuring out that the Bean plant grows very quickly. 15% become 30% in twenty years. As usual, the right thing got done for the wrong reason.

  16. ……..Meanwhile, while the magician told you to focus on the script in his right hand, the left hand was given carte blanche:

    House approves billions for wars without debate

    “WASHINGTON – The House on Friday passed legislation that authorizes the Pentagon to spend nearly $160 billion on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan this budget year without major restrictions on the conduct of operations.

    The 341-48 vote on the defense authorization bill came after House and Senate Democrats agreed to strip several provisions, including one that would have allowed gays to serve openly in the military and another that would have authorized abortions at overseas military facilities.”

  17. After you get done celebrating this great victory, please take the time to thank some of the Congressional Staff of the few Democrats that voted against this treason Nightmare bill:

    “Five Democrats — Max Baucus and Jon Tester of Montana, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Mark Pryor of Arkansas — joined 36 Republicans in blocking it”

  18. Ted Kennedy Search Party: It is a normal thing for a healthy human to feel sympathy with children and dogs. They’re cute and appeal to our protective instincts. That’s why our enemies always use them as the face of whatever evil they want to force on us. I’d like to see an anti-immigration ad that showed a bunch of fat Mexican breeding hogs and their tatoo-spangled sperm-donors, along with their photos from about third grade. The cute kid becomes, more often than not, an ignorant, lawless, baby-maker, and dependent on White taxpayers to keep them from Third World squalor. I am SoCal born, and I know what they’ve done. Every few years I have occasion to go back, and I make a point to visit the old neighborhood to see how much further my native soil has fallen into decay. Do not believe any statistics you read about Hispanics in the media, they lie. My own digging revealed that only one out of eight “students” now graduates from my old high school. It could be worse, but there are still some Whites and Orientals in town.
    As for the “unfairness” of making these kids pay for their parents’ decisions: So does every person in the world pay for other people’s decisions. So have I paid for the decision to flood the country with non-Whites. So will every White kid pay for the rest of their lives for the decision to import tens of millions of foreigners who do not know or accept our ways, or care. Sorry, following American Idol or listening to popular music does not make you an American. I am a refugee from the place I was born and raised. How fair is that?

  19. “Why is they always put light skinned looking latinos who could pass for White out to represent the illegals? Isn’t that racist?”

    For the same reason that so many of the Negro academics are mulattos: IQ is heavily race-related and – with a few exceptions – it’s those with a bit of White blood that are intelligent.

  20. Fags in the military will form enclaves. Certain bases, ships, or jobs will become known as homo-friendly, and will become intolerable for normal men. We had a few queers when I was in, and they kept quiet, bothered nobody, and were left alone. But when you’ve got to live in a 20% fag atmosphere, the normals will leave, just like when you get too many Negroes. At Fort Ord, the big Army base a hundred miles south of Frisco, even though they couldn’t be open about themselves, the queers were a real presence, and quietly took over certain parts of the base as their own. Healthy men just don’t dig them and keep their distance.
    This has happened already with Blacks. For whatever reason, they join the artillery. (Note the documentary “Gunner Palace”, about Iraq.) The common phrase “gun-bunnies” is related to “jungle bunnies”. The military knows about this and tries to limit Balkanization, but the homos are one more turd in the mix.

  21. Why is anyone surprised about Webb? Nobody did their homework, or what?

    “Webb is now married to Hong Le Webb, a Vietnamese-American securities and corporate lawyer . Hong Le Webb was born in South Vietnam and escaped to the United States when she was seven after the fall of Saigon. She grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana. They first met in 1994 and started dating in 2002 when both were separated from their previous spouses. They married in 2006. Hong Le and Jim Webb have one child together, Georgia LeAnh , born 2006. Hong Le Webb also has a daughter from a previous marriage. Webb speaks Vietnamese.”

    What really pisses me off is the “LeAnh” thing; morphing a good, old Southron name into an Asian abortion.

  22. My military friends tell me that Negroes are overrepresented as NCOs, but underrepresented in combat formations.

  23. Here’s the happy Webb couple:

    I don’t think it’s fair for Webb to write books celebrating the “born fighting” tradition of his Scotch Irish kinfolk when he himself is a race mixer. Sure there are worse mixes than White guy with high East Asian, but it’s still race mixing.

    I have to put Webb down solidly in the Anti camp.

    The Lib Dems are:

    Back Latinos
    White Liberals who take the anti White side

    Webb is now identified as solidly in the anti White side. Let’s take him out.

  24. “I don’t think it’s fair for Webb to write books celebrating the “born fighting” tradition of his Scotch Irish kinfolk when he himself is a race mixer.”


    “Back Latinos”


  25. Jim Webb is a formidable adversary because he pushes his anti-White agenda in a less conspicuous way than the rest of the establishment. Imagine writing a book extolling the Scotch Irish and an editorial in the WSJ condemning AA for unfairness to poor Whites, and then turning around and voting for the Dream Act just a few months later. That was breathtaking and shameless even by the standards of the anti-White elite establishment. Webb needs to be voted down before he lands at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

  26. So the DREAM Act was defeated and this somehow proves the system works and the conservatives are god like beings. Did it ever dawn on Hunter and his giddy little dance troupe that if our system truly worked we shouldn’t have to annually sweat bullets and bite fingernails over the proposed amnesty of millions of non-whites? That it never should have reached this point in the first place?

    Around 25 million illegal aliens are still here and they aren’t leaving anytime soon. So you can put the cork back in the champagne bottles until millions of them are forced to go back to Mexico in disgrace.

  27. Actually what we could really use right now is another “Time Wise (Ass) Moment” from that communist alcoholic to further remind US who the real Enemy is — further reminding the rest of White America that this really is all about their economic and cultural dispossession (especially the Founding Stock) as a People — and all White “gentiles” Genocide as a Race.

  28. Dithers on target. This is a minor defensive victory. And that’s all. Until the power of a certain savage nomadic tribe that’s behind both the legal and illegal immigration rackets had been forever broken, there’s nothing to celebrate here. Our struggle has barely begun.

  29. Jim Webb’s book “Born Fighting” is a piece of propagandistic shit. I read it, going merrily along until he ends with some pro-Brown-immigration bullshit. The whole point of the thing was to draw you to his position on immigration. His ancestors, which he feigns such pride in, would have hanged him. All his mouth about how ill-treated working class Whites are treated is flushed away by his call for our displacement by foreigners. Scum. HW is right to see him as Enemy # 1 among the Demos.

  30. Dithers on target. This is a minor defensive victory.

    No, this is a game changer, just nobody sees it yet.

    I like WWII analogies. When looking at the war on the Eastern Front there are 5 major landmarks: Barbarossa (the German invasion of the USSR), Kiev, Moscow, Stalingrad, Kursk, Bagration and finally, Berlin.

    The “Barbarossa” stage in our war against the Left started in the 60’s and continued successfully all the way through the election of Obama in late 2008 which proved to be the “Kiev” stage. When the Germans conquered Kiev, they thought the Soviet Union was beaten for good but it actually proved to be Germany’s high water mark on the Eastern Front. Similarly, the liberals were extatic after Obama’s election and thought they were only a couple of years away from permentantly transforming America into so SWPL distopia with a latin flavor. The defeat of the Wehrmacht outside of Moscow is analagous to the GOP victories in the 2009/2010 special elections and the crushing defeat the Dems just suffered in the midterms can be compared to Stalingrad.

    But it was actually Kursk, not Stalingrad that was the last major German eastern offensive of the war. What the Dems just did today is just like what the Germans did at Kursk: use all they had left in a desperate frontal attack and lose a close but decisive battle.

    Just like Kursk was the end of the Soviets being on the defensive, today marks the end of the right playing defense against the Left. From now on we will be dictating the course of events. 2011 is going to be a great year.

    P.S. somebody upthread mentioned the war funding, they needn’t have worried. One benefit of having Obama in the white house is knowing that he won’t start stupid wars even if congress wants them. The man does have some good qualities.

  31. Otis the Sweaty: “The right thing is often done for the wrong reason.”
    If the GOP decides to play for keepers, it will only be because…
    1. They realize that they will lose everything if the non-Whites take over. The real ruling class uses Republicans as vote sponges, to absorb the energies of angry Whites. They will be discarded like all other Whites once the multi-cult has become the majority. No room in the lifeboat for suckers.
    2. They have figured out that their own states will be going bankrupt like California if the Brown tide sweeps over them. They have not figured out what they will do when that happens.
    3. They are really tired of being always treated as villains by the Dems and the media, and apologizing to their own children for not being traitors. There is apparently a lot of personal animosity in Congress, ugly and mean. Good. Anything that drives polarization is a plus for our side.
    So, I hope you’re right and that the GOP plays unflinching hardball. All any Senate Majority Leader has to do is start telling the truth about race and immigration without backing down, and the edifice collapses. Let’s see.

  32. Murph says:
    December 18, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Why do Nevadans keep sending this guy back into office? Aren’t they all Mormons?

    They keep sending him back because of what he does for them in terms of their work and making a living. The same as why so many other otherwise good white people vote Democrat. They call it “bread and butter issues.”

    It is about work and making a living issues, not that they are pro Mexican/black/queer, etc. As I wrote in another thread here, there are millions of white men who you would otherwise think would be like WN’s and in fact pretty much hold the same opinions as we do, but yet you can see them on jobsites with “VOTE Obama” stickers on their lunchboxes. You can read and hear speeches by their spokespeople talking about what a “friend the working man and woman have in ” people like Pelosi, Obama, Reid.

    It is sad, but true. It is also true that in some ways democrats are much better for blue collar workers.

  33. Most people re-elect their incumbents because “they bring federal money to our state/district”. Of course, that “federal” money, is actually their own tax dollar coming back from Washington, minus the administrative cost. The problem is, Joe Sixpack isn’t smart enough to figure that out, or doesn’t even care. Like Brutus says, it’s about jobs, and now !

    People have no clue whether or not their state is a net winner or looser in the Federal tax game. Some states, like Alaska, are net winners, since that republican bastion actually survives only due to Federal money. In a sense, most states can claim to be “winners”, since federal income tax minus federal payouts equals a plus, but that’s because the Feds borrow the money. Either way, people don’t get it, or don’t care.

  34. Celestial Time,

    I guess so.

    I juggled the DREAM Act vote, dealing with you guys, about two and a half hours of exercise, drinking with my friends, and a long night of … well, I won’t discuss that here. Pro-White activism!

    Good times. I woke up with a buzz.

  35. Mr. Dithers says: So the DREAM Act was defeated and this somehow proves the system works and the conservatives are god like beings.

    No, but it proves that White America still has a pulse and that system is not yet so far gone that tactical victories are not possible. Hence, White engagement with the system especially at the state, local and conservative grassroots level still makes sense. Aggressive activism at the grassroots level can still force the elites to respond whether they want to or not if they want to preserve their own power. In this case, the grassroots conservatives turned back amnesty. In the future, they might be able to elect more immigration restrictionists.

    Meanwhile, the radical faction of WN continues to contribute nothing of value in terms of helping stop our slide downward. Is contributing nothing of value supposed to prove the radicals are God-like beings? The conservatives have at least made small contributions over the years to stopping the downward slide, and small contributions are better than no contributions because they buy needed time for nationalists to organize and persuade more people to the cause.

    Although the system is clearly broken in the sense that we will never be able to use the system to vote ourselves ethnostate via the electoral process, it is also true that forming an etnnostate is not possible right now by any means electoral or otherwise. This limitation raises the issue of what do we do right now, in the meantime, until conditions for creating an ethnostate are more favorable, probably not until the very distant future?

    This, I think, is the main problem with the radical position. They have no credible answer to this question. They never sustain the burden of proof in favor of an alternative to conservatism. In any debate, once you have identified what will not work, you have to make a positive case for what will work, rather than just attacking and critiquing the approaches of others (like the conservatives and HW).

  36. Silly me… I forgot about your hours of running and exercise you do every day, the job you have, and being the consummate socialite. Throw that in with all the other stuff I mentioned, I’d have to say that you must have been the inspiration for the Dos Equis commercials.

    Hunter Wallace – The Most Interesting Man in the World

    Seriously, tell us your secret.

  37. I’m getting there. Slowly but surely.

    Next year is going to be great. The relentless workout schedule has really paid off in other areas. Boosts your stamina.

    The secret, as corny as it sounds, if there is one, was revealed by The General on the Jim Giles show. There is always one more thing that you should be doing that you are not doing … and one thing you are doing that you shouldn’t be doing.

    I think that is a good useful piece of advice.

  38. “White Liberals who take the anti White side”
    This is often a strategy for survival and/or promotion within present day politics (at every level) for whites. Yes, it is the worst sort of traitorism, but it works for them. As an example, I had a friend employed at a low-level state job and she flat-out told me that she could not be” accused of racism” because she has a black husband! Obviously a decision made with job longevity in mind (her “man” is employed at the same job) in her case at least. Could she have found a white man to marry? Yes, she is a pretty good looking woman. Webb is just her male counterpart at a higher level in the political world, athough previously it seemed mostly to be just white women marrying outside the race, now you find males doing the same, but preferring Asian/orientals to the ugly black females who don’t want a white man anyway.

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