This is an insightful excerpt and another preview of Yankee Month into the origins of the Second Republic which was created by the Radical Republicans in 1867 when they overthrew the Constitution to pass the 14th Amendment which made African negroes into American citzens:
“Garrison’s view was even more complicated, for he drew a distinction between the false Union – the “hollow mockery” created by the Constitution – and the true Union, a “glorious reality” that had never yet been achieved. The false Union, he repeated again and again, was not divinely ordained but rather “the work of men’s hands”: quoting the Bible, he declared that “it is only those things which are made, that can be shaken down.” As Garrison saw it, slavery depended on the false Union for its survival – Northerners furnished Southern slaveholders with the markets for their slaves’ produce, with the laws and slave-catching mobs that policed the boundaries of the system, with the votes to give slaveholders control of the federal government, and with the moral approbation to embolden slaveholders to spread their pernicious labor system. If this Northern support were withdrawn, slavery would be doomed. The spirit of the true Union, by contrast, was present in the preamble of the Declaration of Independence – it was the spirit of equality. A binding and valid compact between freedom and slavery was, for Garrison, a moral impossibility, and thus, in a sense, disunion already prevailed. With slaveholders campaigning aggressively to extend their domain and to curtail the rights of Northern citizens, it was inevitable and fitting that political disunion would flow from moral disunion. An 1842 antislavery meeting in Boston, presided over by Garrison, resolved that “the time is rapidly approaching when the American Union will be dissolved in form, as it is now in fact.” In this formulation, disunion connoted not failure, shame, and anarchy but the necessary prelude to a national rebirth: the demise of the false, corrupt Union would prepare the way for the establishment of the true, righteous one. From the early 1840s on, then, disunion for Garrison connoted not only a threat and an accusation, but also a process by which Northerners were coming to see that only a total repudiation of the South could purge the nation of sin.”
The Constitution was the “false Union” – it was a compact with a wicked Southern civilization based on slavery and racial prejudice that had to be overthrown by righteous Yankees to realize the Glorious Union that had never existed but embodied the spirit of equality found in the Declaration of Independence.
America had to be recreated by Yankees in their own image of a Shining City on a Hill. The Union had to be rebuilt on Northern terms. The terms of the Union would be dictated to the defeated Confederacy which was placed under military occupation. Those terms were negro citizenship, racial equality, and civil rights.
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While all this righteous New England abolitionism and propaganda putting slavery as the primary cause of the Civil War is certainly true I think it ignores the much more profound effect that the rapid rise of the Industrial Revolution was having on the fabric of Western society. The machine age was truly upon us all and the positively feudal arrangement of the Southern planter class was bound to be rapidly swept away by the radical re-arrangement of the economic relations between the different classes of society.
Only romantic fools think this was a bad thing and yearn for the days of mounted knights. We all prefer long life spans, indoor plumbing, antibiotics, reliable automobiles, and the radically democratic internet as a means of communication.
The most difficult problem we will face in the future will be what to do with all the people with IQs under 120 for whom there will be literally no productive work available in an economy of cybernetically driven robot farms and factories.
“The most difficult problem we will face in the future will be what to do with all the people with IQs under 120 for whom there will be literally no productive work available in an economy of cybernetically driven robot farms and factories.”
You seem to have a very optimistic view of the future. One that appears completely unwarranted, given the level of postmodern decay and the dysgenic/demoralizing consequences of BRA and the welfare state. In the 1960s, people were saying that by the year 2000, we’d have all the things that you are describing. Sanguine progressivism is pretty much discredited today.
Sure, we got the internet and it was a boon for radical activists. But most people use it to amuse themselves to death with facebook and youtube and not for serious study of history and the changing the state of the world
This won’t change until their daily life starts to become more difficult and less comfortable. What’s the point of scientific progress if Whites won’t be around to enjoy it, or if it will be used to promote non-White interest.
The futurists got it backwards. Oil and natural gas will be fairly scarce by mid century. Globablism will fail. International transports and energy will become much more expensive, even prohibitive to some. The old South is an interesting example of a local, non-globalized society. Its study is a worthy effort because the future will see a renewal of local, race based societies.
Blacks will have to be contained in some way or another. They are ruining both America and the old White colony of South Africa and breeding like wild rabbits in Africa, thanks to humanitarian aid. Perhaps they should be restored to some type of feudal servitude or eliminated through social Darwinism. The Negroes of today are far more feral, dangerous and useless than the Negroes of the old Plantations.
Modern Americans are savages with iPhones. Antebellum Americans were civilized people with telegraphs and railroads.
Rudel,
It was the Industrial Revolution in Britain (textile industries produced cloth) that fueled the growth of the Cotton Kingdom in the South.
We don’t prefer “the New England way” around here. The progress of technology has nothing to do with the sort of bizarre utopian social reform movements that we see emerging in the Northern states. That shit grew out of the peculiar culture of the Northeast.
Germany and Japan were civilized modern nations. China and South Korea are civilized modern nations. The Confederacy was a civilized modern nation. It was actually an integral part of the global economy. The South grew most of the cotton in the world at the time.
The Southern Chivalry were romantics because cotton was the most important industrial commodity in the world. Just like oil is the most important commodity in our times and has fueled the growth of Islamic fundamentalism.
It was the fabulous wealth that was created by slavery and globalization that created the economic foundation for Southern Romanticism, not the other way around.
“Sanguine progressivism is pretty much discredited today.”
My prognostications are anything but sanguine. The disintegration of the US will be bloody and painful. Nevertheless technological progress will still occur. As I have stated before we are faced with hierarchical rule by corporate entities with private security forces allied with those other organizations that can provide them with things of value. As for resource constraints on energy, we have enough coal to last us for centuries. It will be a moot point as we most likely will see a massive reduction in the human population soon enough. No animal species surges in numbers like we have without a concomitant natural die off.
Rampaging negro mobs in the North can be contained simply by abandoning inner cities. In the South they are everywhere and you will have nowhere to hide when they come to burn you out.
“We don’t prefer “the New England way” around here.”
What an ignorant and silly statement. The Southern planters benefitted from the triangle trade between England, Africa, and the New World. And much of the Industrial Revolution in the North was in New York, the Mid Atlantic States, and the mid West not New England.
Southern Chivalry was based on tobacco and rice in Virginia and the Carolinas. Cotton was an industrial commodity whose cotton gin (and cheap Indian labor) was making slavery obsolete.
BTW, China is a putrid hell hole.
I suggest you prepare for the future rather than make futile attempts to restore the past. Railroads and telegraphs indeed! LOL I thought the movie “The Great Train Robbery” was fun too when I was a boy but please, get a clue. It’s the 21st Century now.
““The most difficult problem we will face in the future will be what to do with all the people with IQs under 120 for whom there will be literally no productive work available in an economy of cybernetically driven robot farms and factories.”
You seem to have a very optimistic view of the future. One that appears completely unwarranted, given the level of postmodern decay and the dysgenic/demoralizing consequences of BRA and the welfare state. In the 1960s, people were saying that by the year 2000, we’d have all the things that you are describing. Sanguine progressivism is pretty much discredited today.
Sure, we got the internet and it was a boon for radical activists. But most people use it to amuse themselves to death with facebook and youtube and not for serious study of history and the changing the state of the world ”
Solution to both assertions:
The low IQ people will groom dogs and change oil of the cybernetic sex robots everyone will be entertaining themselves with.
So, maybe I’m half-kidding but automation has been predicted to cause the end of human jobs for over a century now. While automation may enable humans to have all their needs met easily it doesn’t meet all wants. We always want more and that drives us to do and create SOMETHING and it would force the shiftless to do the same if they didn’t want everything bid away from them by the people that find enjoyment in work.
Thats why we have an economy of people that drive computers or forklifts or program robots all day. There will always be something to do for the dimmer half of the population, even if its not manual labor or factory work. The desire for more “stuff” will create it.
“Modern Americans are savages with iPhones. Antebellum Americans were civilized people with telegraphs and railroads.”
Thats because it was too slow and expensive to call someone “A dUM FAg!11!!” with those communications. I seriously doubt human nature has changed that much in only 150 years. The costs of acting like a savage are just less now. People are still polite to eachother when they are in small, more isolated groups or economically dependent on eachother. People are more polite in small towns, people are more polite in the break-room at work because there is more risk to their self interest in those places.
Hunter,
Why are you going to have Yankee month? They already have February…
“In the South they are everywhere and you will have nowhere to hide when they come to burn you out.”
No, I don’t think so. There are very many Southerners who own and are familiar with firearms. There is a reason for this back in our past. This land was once a very hostile place when our forefathers settled it. We have retained our “gun culture” here in a big way. You may recall Emperor Zero’s denunciation of rural whites. God and guns have seen us through many distressing times.
Urban thugs capabilities are way overrated (typically negro). When the time comes to apply force, they will whither quickly. Rest assured the Yankee government’s pets have been down this road before with us. That’s why they want to eradicate all signs of collective memory. The attack upon Southern “hate” is really an attack on white Southerners, assisted by “compassionate” Yankees whose heads are filled with utopian visions.
The coming years will determine the destiny of white people. Will we return to more traditional, more sustainable ways of life…or will we continue in an increasingly hostile and dysfunctional system until we cease to exist? Our Southern past provides a pattern, a template for us to use in determining the shape of our future. It shows that alternative arrangements to those of the present are possible.
Most here would agree the current pattern (“Yankeedom” and the welfare/warfare managerial/therapeutic nanny state) is unsustainable. Our problems are not technological (material), they are on a higher order (moral, spiritual, and teleological).
Our true history can be used as a weapon to discredit the cultural narrative of our time. This is a task that must be performed prior to the beginning of the struggle.
What is our vision, our cultural narrative, and where do we recover it if not in our past? It seems to me that if we have taken a wrong turn, we ought to go back and take a different road. Break the centralized structure and you break the current system.
It’s breaking itself before our very eyes–will we be ready?
Occidental Dissent and many other websites have provided the modern equivalent of the committees of correspondence used by our forefathers to create their cultural narrative. However distorted and perverted this cultural narrative may be at present, it is recoverable, at least in part.
“Where there is no vision, the people perish.” Proverbs 29:18.
Deo Vindice
The EBT card does not work in a Jeffersonian republic.
The cry of “racist” does not work in a Jeffersonian republic.
Local communities are strong in a Jeffersonian republic. Because that’s all the help you’re going to get. There is no centralized structure to provide for you.
Deo Vindice
Two observations:
“The Union had to be rebuilt on Northern terms. The terms of the Union would be dictated to the defeated Confederacy which was placed under military occupation. Those terms were negro citizenship, racial equality, and civil rights.”
Sounds like the sixth level of HELL, IMHO.
Second:
“Judel” says: (selective editing) “I suggest you prepare for the future rather than make futile attempts to restore the past. Railroads and telegraphs indeed! LOL … but please, get a clue. It’s the 21st Century now.”
Yes, and we have already outstripped the ability of the world to feed 7 BILLION hominids. We have already are so close to “Peak Oil” it’s not even funny, and only those with inaccessible reserves on their own territories (Such as Russia’s Siberian Oil Fields) will have any ‘ante’ in the coming future.
We are also dealing with ‘Peak WATER’ as the new buzzword. EVERYONE living in the SW will either DIE or MOVE. Only those states with ‘crummy climates’ (like, you know, WINTER and SNOW) and Mousquitos in summer, due to large bodies of fresh water, and rich land, will be the inevitable survivors.
I suggest you read ‘One Second After’ or ‘Rohan Nation’ to get a glimpse of how utterly fragile the situation really is. WE WILL revert back to an 1800’s style lifestyle, probably in my lifetime, but assuredly in my children’s. We will be again at the mercy of the elements, and even things like solar energy cells will eventually break down, when we won’t have ‘cheap oil’ to ship silver, copper, or some esoteric metal from China to motherboard manufacturers in Pakistan, to ship to Silicon Valley.
The whole thing is going to go down, and I for one am GLAD of it. A more godly life style and far less ‘ease of intermixing’ can ONLY DO US GOOD.
There’s immense consolation in all of this. When the EBT cards stop working (along with all else), the urban cosmic libs – today’s Yankees/Jews – are going to be largely exterminated by their former ethnoid allies. What’s left of the groids, spic gangs, etc., will then come boiling out of the cities…but the various white militias, NRA, GOA, etc., should be able to deal with them. Too bad, HW….we’re going to take it all back, not just the Old South.
But keep flying that Confederate Battle Flag. It is beautiful. Just get ready to sew on another 10 stars or so.
In 1835, the average Yankee either
(a) had no particular feelings on the matter of slavery one way or another or
(b) was actively interested in preserving the status quo.
And to say that William Lloyd Garrison — at that time — represented anything but a small, ineffectual and perhaps even widely detested view of slavery, someone holding a contrary view would need to explain how Garrison came very close to getting a hemp necktie from an enraged mob. In Boston itself…
One of the most controversial events in pre-Civil War Boston history resulted from an Anti-Slavery Society lecture. In the fall of 1835, the society invited George Thompson, a fiery British abolitionist, to address them. When Thompson was unable to attend, Garrison agreed to take his place. An unruly mob threatened to storm the building in search of Thompson. The Mayor and police persuaded the Boston Female Anti-Slavery members to leave. The mob, however, pursued Garrison through the streets of Boston, and upon seizing him, tied a rope around his waist and dragged him through Boston’s streets. Garrison was rescued from lynching and lodged overnight in the Leverett Street Jail before leaving the city for several weeks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lloyd_Garrison
Now, certainly, by 1855 Garrison’s views, or a more watered down form of them at any rate, WERE tolerated in polite society in the North. So, what happened over those 20 years that turned Garrison from lynching candidate to public figure? Did the North collectively just wake up one morning and change its mind? Or is it possible that the South, through its collective idiocy, gave Garrison and his ilk the opening they needed to influence public opinion? And even then, I would argue, his views were still considered extreme, in the sense that most Northerners had no particular problem with slavery where it was already in place. But thanks to stupidity like Bloody Kansas and the Ostend Declaration, the South handed Garrison and co. gift-wrapped presents they could hardly have hoped for.
As an aside, it is curious that the Ostend Declaration receives such little play, particularly when discussing the fates of the diplomats sent by the USA and CSA to influence the governments of Britain and France. After all, the USA had to retire, tail between its legs, or face at a minimum a naval war with Britain, France and Spain (combined) following said declaration. And since the US had arrogantly demanded Spain sell it Cuba, or else the US would feel obliged to [insert gobbledygook about the sovereign rights of the Cuban people] do what “or else” generally means in such circumstances, not only the demands, but the terms and language infuriated the powers that be, both in Paris and in London.
And since Cuba, if acquired, would have entered the Union as a slave state, I find it rather difficult to believe that in eight or nine years such a thing would have been forgotten. Or from which side’s politician’s it most likely emanated. (And please don’t insult my intelligence by making some claim that Franklin Pierce was capable of doing much beyond tying his shoes, or that he would have come up with something like this on his own.)
So, if you want to look at the real reason behind the CSA’s failure, you can start with their arrogance, move onto a series of actions that served to alienate potential allies and strengthened enemies, and end on a delusion that arises from reading too much Sir Walter Scott. And William Lloyd Garrison? He would have remained a nothing and a nobody, if not for the “help” given to him by the South…Or perhaps had the status quo remained in place, the Boston mob of 1835 would have even accomplished what they failed to carry to completion at some later date.
(PS: the railroads in the South were utterly useless for military purposes. Not sure why you mentioned them. In most cases they simply stopped when it became uneconomical to ship inland grown cotton to the coast.I believe the term is “trunk line.”)
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Southern secessionists were right that the North was becoming a land of insane utopian causes, religious confusion, and endless moral revolutions.
It is important to remember that abolitionism was just one example of a Northern reform movement that “disturbed the peace” of the Union to its breaking point. The same reformers at the time were also involved in the women’s suffrage movement and the temperance movement.
Garrison was the radical nexus of abolitionism, civil rights, women’s suffrage, and temperance. He was also opposed to Indian Removal. Most Northerners didn’t agree with these vanguardists in the 1830s, but that changed over time.
Certainly, the abolitionists, the women’s suffrage advocates, and the temperance crusaders lived to see the triumph of their social crusades in the Constitution.
So various problems were to be fixed by passing laws.
On what grounds did they “think” that this would work?
Elwood, let me get this straight. It ain’t easy since either I’m too thick to follow your logic or your logic is convoluted.
Northerners who disagreed with and rabidly disliked the small and ineffectual groups of abolitionist radicals gradually concluded that the South should be forced to remain in the union because of its arrogance, stupidity and assistance to such radicals? That its defeat was more the result of alienating its potential allies than its invasion by the US military? That a handful of men running a scumbag out of town is as significant as the invasion and slaughter of a quarter million of “their fellow countrymen”?
If you say so. I still think it had more to do with the fact that people fight wars against whomever they’re told is the enemy. I realize that this can be taken as an insult if you’re a northerner but plenty of Southerners have been similarly duped since that war. They were, however, deluged with unprecedented agitprop first.
“And to say that William Lloyd Garrison — at that time — represented anything but a small, ineffectual and perhaps even widely detested view of slavery, someone holding a contrary view would need to explain how Garrison came very close to getting a hemp necktie from an enraged mob.”
Correct. I’d also point out:
(1) Garrison was the child of immigrants from Canada. Only one of his grandparents had New England ancestry. The other three were from England and Ireland.
(2) Garrison, a Baptist, was inspired by Benjamin Lundy, a Quaker from New Jersey who ran a newspaper in Baltimore for which Garrison worked before starting his own newspaper. The idea that abolitionism sprang from New England Puritanism is nonsense.
“plenty of Southerners have been similarly duped since that war. They were, however, deluged with unprecedented agitprop first.
The non slave-holding Scots-Irish certainly were. They had no common interests with the English planters who fomented the war. Indeed in Southern Appalachia they actively resisted Confederate rule.
Do you mean Southern Appalachians like President Andrew Johnson? The guy who was impeached by the Radical Republicans for opposing their attempt to “Africanize the Southern states”?
I’m talking about the “Second Civil War” in East Tennessee where there was two years (1861-1863) of continuous fighting between Confederate authorities and the substantially anti-Confederate populace until final occupation by Union troops in November of 1863 put and end to it.
East Tennessee voted 87% in favor of remaining in the Union.
Also, and as everybody knows, the rest of Southern Appalachia was not exactly a hotbed of Confederate support (witness West Virginia, eastern Kentucky and western Virginia.) The English planter class despised Scots-Irish hillbillies and the feeling was mutual up in the hollers. Many of those folks ancestors had suffered under the Southern Planters lash as indentured servants.
Read James Webb’s “Born Fighting” for some details.
Also Andrew Johnson was strongly against Secession. He was after all the goddam Vice President of the United States. Strong Union sympathies as exemplified by Governor “Parson” Brownlow was also the reason that Tennessee was the first state allowed back into the Union on July 24, 1866 and also suffered the least among all Confederate States under its extremely short Reconstruction period where it never even had a Union military government.
Hunter, I understand your intent to help stir up Southern white pride and sympathy with the Lost Cause against our soulless modern government and degenerate culture among your largely uneducated blog followers but the founding of this this country, the War Between the States, and the ensuing global Industrial Revolution was a much more complex and brutal affair than your simplistic 1950’sand 60’s type of “The South Shall Rise Again” propaganda purports it to be.
Tennessee was the first state in the South to ratify the Fourteenth Amendment. It was the birthplace of the Klan and the scene of some of the bloodiest fighting in Reconstruction.
Scots-Irish like Sam Houston, Andrew Jackson, Alexander Stephens, Jesse James, Stonewall Jackson, Nathan Bedford Forrest, Joseph Brown, James K Polk
Sam Houston was as a staunch supporter of the Union that there could ever be right to his dying day.