This Wasn’t the Year… Not for the Chicago Cubs, Not For Ron Paul or Any Libertarian Presidential Candidates

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1. My Internet is down. I’m posting this article in a bar using their wi-fi, without a spell check. If readers see typos, please note them and I’ll fix them. I’m having a rough week, bailed a friend out of Cook County jail.

2. Ah the Ethnic Irish journalists.

   http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2012/08/chris-matthews-reality-check-on-racial-fantasies/

   Chris Matthews is pretty typical of this breed. They are nig lovers. They hate Anglos.

3. Ron Paul is the only candidate to produce large crowds of angry, intelligent young white men. That’s why Ryan and other ass-clowns support Romney. Ron Paul’s support for freedom of association alone, apart from his other positions, would give White men the legal freedom they need to reestablish viable communities.

   Ryan is a troll.

4. Jack Kemp and Phil Graham are definitely not libertarians. Not even close.

   You also grossly distorted Paul’s position on 9/11 and immigration.

   As well, George Lincoln Rockwell was a Nazi, not simply an ‘American nationalist leader.’ I would characterise someone like Pat Buchanan as an American nationalist leader. Rockwell was a loon who liked to dress up in foreign uniforms from the 1930s. That nonsense is never going to have a mass following here.

5. JimP says:
   August 31, 2012 at 6:37 pm (Edit)
   Ron Paul is the only candidate to produce large crowds of angry, intelligent young white men. That’s why Ryan and other ass-clowns support Romney. Ron Paul’s support for freedom of association alone, apart from his other positions, would give White men the legal freedom they need to reestablish viable communities.

   Jack Ryan replies:

   Yas Jim, and the eternal losers the Chicago Cubs outdraw the first place Chicago White Sox. Many White Americans embrace the cult of…

   Losing.

   Libertarianism, economic conservatism has always failed, always loses in a presidential politics. Are we trying to lose or trying to win?

6. The libertarian candidate is attacking Mitt Romney for being a racist on immigration and alienating Latino voters.

7. Ron Paul said and did a number of silly things on immigration during the campaign. That’s why I couldn’t bring myself to vote for him.

8. If I could do it over again, I wouldn’t have voted. I have no regrets about not voting for Ron Paul. I already regret voting for Mitt Romney.

9. Jack,

   Jack Kemp was hardly a libertarian. He was for gun control

10. Jack,

    What did Ron Paul do to you personally that you should lose all sense of reason in criticizing him? (Even though he deserves much of the criticism you dish out here). It’s just like that Whiteplight on AR: I think he hates Christians because some Christian did something bad to him early in life. He denies it when I brought this up to him point blank, but he’s too fanatical about his hatred of Christians for it not to be personal.

    And I think you’re getting to that level of irrationality in criticizing Ron Paul. I think it might be a matter of one of his fanatical supporters jiping you out of money at some point in the past. Some of RP’s fanatical supporters are known for running scammy type outfits.

    Also, let’s not glorify George Lincoln Rockwell. He was openly the head of something called Nazi. That’ll go over in the field of public relations as well as a fart in church.

11. PalmettoPatriot says:

    ‘Rockwell was a loon who liked to dress up in foreign uniforms from the 1930s. That nonsense is never going to have a mass following here.’

    Rockwell had his faults and the Nazi paraphernalia was detrimental, but he was a great man. Confederate flag and costume fetishists will never have a mass following either.

12. Rockwell was a loon who liked to dress up in foreign uniforms from the 1930s. That nonsense is never going to have a mass following here.

    This isn’t true. Rockwell was no a loon. He made a flawed but good faith effort to fight the people destroying us.

    He dressed in a Nazi uniform for a reason. Among other reasons, it was 1) to distinguish himself from the phony conservative/republican oppostion of his era, and 2) to annouce his support for White people in explicit racial terms, and 3) to annouce his opposition to Jewish influence in the clearest way imaginable, including Jews like the one you just rebutted for slandering the South.

    Most people get their information about Rockwell from the same sources that lie about Southerners 24/7/365. Have you allowed mass media and mainstream perspectives influence your view?

    I did for a long time. I used to think Rockwell was a damn fool too. I was wrong.

13. I should clarify.

    I voted for Ron Paul in the meaningless Missouri primaries in 2012, not because I agree with everything he says, but because of the remaining legitimate contenders, he was closest to my worldview. I was for Duncan Hunter in 2008, but he dropped out before the Missouri primary, and I wound up voting for Romney that year because he was the de facto anti-McCain.

    I want libertarians to determine policy when it comes to cops not banging down my door at 4 in the morning and not shooting me in the head, then realizing they got the wrong address. I don’t want libertarians to determine immigration policy.

    Barry Goldwater lost in November 1964 because John Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963. Simple as that. Goldwater admitted in his autobio that he knew he wasn’t going to win because his winning would have meant the third different President within a 15 month time span, and that people don’t want to change Presidents that quickly if they can help it. Rockwell wasn’t keen on Goldwater, for sure, (mainly I think b/c Goldwater was half Jewish), but Goldwater was the first post-reconstruction Republican to win Deep South states because of his opposition to CRA ’64, even though Goldwater’s opposition was libertarian and Mississippi’s was racial.

    Goldwater also said in his autobio that his family’s eponymous department store in Phoenix was the first major business in Phoenix to hire blacks. Yeah, maybe, but there were hardly any blacks in Phoenix when they did that, so big whoop. It’s not the same as a store in Alabama in 1955 doing that.

14. Lew has got it exactly right.

    Wearing a Nazi Uniform is on the same level of wearing a KKK robe or flying a confederate flag. It sends a statement. Of course we know that because of the control of the media that the Jews have that these symbols have been demonized to hell and back again so that they are not effective right now.

    I’ll tell you this though. If a day comes that the swastika is flying high in the air again, we will know that our genocide is over.

15. Cubs outdraw the White Sox because Wrigley is in the white part of town and Comiskey is in the third world. But I have read news recently of mahogany mob style wildings around Wrigley.

16. “Ron Paul’s support for freedom of association alone, apart from his other positions, would give White men the legal freedom they need to reestablish viable communities. ”

    Perhaps they would have the “legal freedom,” but there is an old saying that goes: “Romance without finance…”

    So, too, does white men without finance…can’t do shit.

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    “‘Rockwell was a loon who liked to dress up in foreign uniforms from the 1930s. That nonsense is never going to have a mass following here.’”

    Ah, yes. Another who looks at everything through the lens of 2012. There was no Internet, only three major television stations, all other media virtually owned lock, stock and barrel by a handful of the same Left Wing fanatics as today, etc. You could stand on the street corner and pass out a few pamphlets or go to small rallies with a bullhorn, that was about it; you could reach maybe a thousand people IF you were extraordinarily indefatigable.

    Rockwell, if anyone actually reads ALL that he had to say, carefully explains WHY he often dressed up in foreign uniforms. How did YOU receive ten million dollars worth of free television and major print media airtime and coverage in the mid 1960s? Tell us how you did it, we will listen.

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    And of course, let us not “glorify” anyone who grandpa and Uncle Egbert were sent by the founders of BRA to destroy, grandpa and Uncle Egbert who would have believed a fart in church was a message from God if they had heard it from FDR and others at the time on their radio sets. We must carefully and scrupulously adhere to everything the old folks were indoctrinated in and held as sacred, especially the total destruction of the white race. If Grandpa believed something, then it should be doggedly held by all subsequent descendents until the day we all die. Never mind that what they believed was what they were told to believe by the same people whom we rail against today–Northeastern Yankee intellectuals and Jews. That was in the 1930s and the 1850s and the 1950s and thus doesn’t count. The Northeastern Yankees and Jews get a free pass on that, since only “loons” spoke against them in those days. Grandpa and Grandam believed. They believed. So we must forever and ever carry on against the enemies they believed in. Amen. Amen. Amen. Yay, brother.

    I’ll tell you all about what my grandfather from the North believed until his dying day about your ancestors, Palmetto Patriot. I’ll tell you all about how he believed, nay, knew, that “those old rebels were terrorists and scum. ” Since he was told that and believed it, then tell me why I should not carry on like that today? He was my grandfather, wasn’t he? He must have been totally right. He heard it from his own parents who learned it from newspapers at the time. And they knew, the press would never lie.

17. @ 313Chris

    I would encourage you to listen to this 10 minute audio of Rockwell’s presentation at Brown University. Terrific.

18. Sam says:

    ‘Rockwell had his faults and the Nazi paraphernalia was detrimental, but he was a great man. Confederate flag and costume fetishists will never have a mass following either.’

    In all the various public demonstrations I have done with Confederate symbolism the vast majority (sometimes unanimously so) of the responses I have gotten here in SC and over in GA has been positive. People here like to see Confederate symbolism. As far as costumes, you are thinking of the Southern heritage folks who reenact battles from the 1860s. I do not do this. I dress well (in a modern fashion) and march or protest with our symbols. The White public here loves it and some of the Blacks actually have no problem with it either. Contrast that to the sort of response you would get flying a swastika flag and seig heiling. Remember that as late as the 1980s there were Southern politicians campaigning with Confederate symbolism in the Lower South. And most White Southerners support the symbol. It would be much easier to unite our people around that symbol than it would a foreign flag from the WWII era.

19. Brutus,

    I edited out Chris’ ridiculous slander. No reason, to fall down in to the gutter with such nonsense.

20. The Dukes of Hazard car is pretty cool. It’s got the stars and bars painted onto it.

21. John said:

    ‘The Dukes of Hazard car is pretty cool. It’s got the stars and bars painted onto it.’

    Actually, the Stars and Bars is a different flag – it’s the first Confederate flag (the one that looks similar to the US flag). But yes, it’s cool.

22. Anyone who voted for Mitt Romney in the primaries, when a much better choice awaited, is either too young, too inexperienced or too stupid to be permitted to vote. Did Ron Paul come out and announce himself as George Lincoln Rockwell reborn? Of course not. But his policies were so antithetical to the current totalitarian regime that the choice was clear even for a goddamned newborn. Anyone who couldn’t overlook his adherence to PC and see the drastic difference is a fool.

    http://www.kriegercapital.biz/apps/blog/categories/show/1359223-ron-paul-

    Ron Paul; America’s Cola di Rienzo
    Posted on December 22, 2011 at 2:50 AM

    Despite moving to the opposite end of the world, the interminable imbecility of American presidential politics remains inescapable. On one side is Barack Hussein Obama, an intellectual midget whose ineptitude for governing is perhaps the only thing that surpasses his megalomania. Despite proving an abject failure during the past three years, he retains the unwavering support of forty-five percent of the electorate in what is undoubtedly the most ignorant and stupefied mob in the industrialised world. No amount of incompetence or incapacity to address the monumental problems confronting the United States prevents Obama from losing the support of significant segments of the electorate. It is perhaps foolhardy to expect more from a country largely composed of gullible philistines that engross themselves in the shenanigans of bimbos like Britney Spears along with credulous cretins whose donations permit fraudsters like Benny Hinn to amass millions.

    Yet perhaps more shocking than the support Obama enjoys is the motley assortment of charlatans, liars, incompetents, and cunning deceivers that are fighting each other to displace him. The current frontrunner, New Gingrich, is the consummate Washington insider and hypocrite who received USD $1.6 million in “consulting fees” from failed mortgage giant Freddie Mac. The thrice-divorced Roman Catholic also epitomises hypocrisy with his strident denunciations of Bill Clinton for having an affair with intern Monica Lewinsky whilst he had an extramarital affair with his own aide. Yet perhaps more germane and perturbing is that Gingrich vociferously supports the insidious Iraq War and the continuing expansion of the military industrial complex when he avoided Vietnam by obtaining several deferments.

    The same hypocrisy also applies to perennial presidential candidate Mitt Romney who also seems to have no compunction about his hypocritical stance on the Vietnam War. His father, a prominent Michigan politician, vocally supported the Vietnam War, yet Romney also availed himself of several deferments, although he presently supports the various wars in which the United States is involved. Incidentally, Romney had the gall during the last presidential campaign to equate his sons’ service to Romney’s campaign to fighting on the battlefields of Iraq. His only claim to consistency is that he has consistently taken every imaginable position on an assortment of issues depending on what was politically expedient at the time. Despite his vacillations, Romney insists he is the most qualified to become President because of his business acumen and experience. Yet Romney’s record at consulting firm Bain Capital eviscerates his argument for Bain Capital’s modus operandi was to make money from leveraged buyouts and from the hefty consulting fees that it charged its clients. Romney’s claim that he created jobs or unleashed incalculable economic progress is an outright canard and Romney owed this highly remunerated position to his political connections rather than any innate aptitude for business.

    If the aforementioned is insufficiently fetid to create revulsion at the ignominious demise of a free and great country, then the meteoric rises and subsequent falls of imbeciles Herman Cain and Rick Perry will at least provide some comic relief. Herman Cain, the affirmative action candidate in the Republican field, inexplicably ascended in the polls largely because of the blissful unawareness of the Republican yahoos who saw in him a man as equally bereft as they of an intellectual foundation necessary to grasp complex questions, whether grounded in education, experience, wisdom, or innate ability. Cain might not have understood the plight of Palestinians or that they should have a right to return to the lands that the Israelis stole from their forebears, but he galvanised the Republican dimwits because he was a man of melanin expressing the same insufferable adoration of Israel and mindless bigotry of Muslims that many Christian Wahabis seem to possess. Unfortunately for Cain, he spent more time trying to grope women than groping for answers in books and his campaign withered before it gained traction.

    Perhaps the only candidate even more mentally handicapped than Herman Cain is Texas Governor Rick Perry, a man whose life attests to the maxim that ambition and cunning can propel a man farther in politics than honour and wisdom. Perry often extols the virtues of rugged individualism and small government, but remains furtive about his USD $92,000 pension from the Texas government. Not only does Perry surpass the average welfare queen in his ability to milk the system, he also displays the same dreadful inability to transmit cogent arguments as evinced by his notorious debate gaffe, where he could not remember the third government department he wishes to abolish. Fortunately, Perry’s ethereal rise proved as ephemeral as Cain’s and Perry seems destined for the rubbish bin of history.

    Amidst the mire, one principled man towers above the vermin in American politics. Ron Paul is the only man that has unwaveringly supported freedom and is the intellectual heir to the Enlightenment ideals of liberty and rationality. While others supported the disastrous villainy of the Iraq War, Ron Paul steadfastly opposed this imperialistic venture along with America’s subsiding of Israel and other despotic regimes throughout the world. His candour is refreshing in an epoch where politicians rarely take stands on vexing questions. He presciently foresaw the current depression and unashamedly advocated the abolition of the Federal Reserve along with a myriad of other government entities that distort the economy, encourage misallocation of resources, and reward the crooked insiders.

    Recent polls show that Ron Paul may win the Iowa caucuses, a tremendous accomplishment given that the American media does its utmost to trivialise his candidacy or outright silence him. Yet halting America’s irreversible demise may prove a task too great for this exceptional man even if he does the unthinkable and becomes President. If Paul succeeds, the countless special interests such as the war profiteers, Wall Street banks, government employees, and every other zombie interest will fight back like cornered rats to preserve the status quo that permits them to suck the marrow off the dwindling number of producers remaining in America. The entrenched interests will do their utmost to destroy him and succeed in crushing him just as the venal nobles destroyed the medieval Roman statesman Cola di Rienzo. Di Rienzo was an upstart leader who roused the people to revolt and gained power in Rome. He restored order to Rome and rid it of the robbers and crooks that had misgoverned the formerly great city, but lamentably, the nobles united against him and ultimately deposed him.

    Ron Paul has showed tremendous resilience and a newfound willingness to attack his dishonest opponents with the unvarnished truth. Despite my firm belief that Ron Paul’s policies could halt America’s irreversible decline, I believe that the good doctor faces insuperable obstacles. Paul’s mission is akin to Frodo’s quest to bypass the thousands of orcs in Mordor and destroy the evil ring of power. Regrettably, the millions of orcs in America whether they are welfare deadbeats, government bureaucrats, bankers, or corporate oligarchs will converge and do their utmost to destroy Ron Paul. Although I hold Dr Paul in inestimably high esteem, I feel that this undertaking is too great even for him. I beseech American readers to vote and campaign on the good doctor’s behalf, but I advise them to emigrate whilst they have the chance. The American government is now on the verge of enacting two laws, one that allows the US government to detain anyone indefinitely in the so-called “War on Terror”, including US citizens on American soil. The second law that takes effect in 2013 requires foreign banks to disclose the accounts of any American citizen or overseas resident to the US government for the purposes of collecting taxes. These ominous developments only further confirm that America has devolved from a constitutional republic, to a constitution dictatorship, to an unconstitutional dictator. Sensible Americans will flee while they still have the chance.

23. Countenance writes:

    “Jack,

    What did Ron Paul do to you personally that you should lose all sense of reason in criticizing him? (Even though he deserves much of the criticism you dish out here). ”

    Jack Ryan replies:

    I’ve never met Ron Paul personally. This post addresses the terrible problem White Americans have had with race denying Libertarian/economic conservatives running for President of the United States, losing, losing badly and embarrassing our race, pandering to our enemies like Black rapists, gang members, Islamic illegal alien terrorists, Reconquista Mestizos and generally putting out the idea that White American men are clueless $&&”@ cowards! Ron Paul wasn’t the only clueless race denying Libertarian economic Conservative running for President this year, there is also ex New Mexico (well named) governor Gary Johnson, now polling at zero percent with Black American voters, Hispanic voters and even White American voters!

    The main point of this post is that idiot, race denying Libetarian, economic conservative Presidential candidates with F immigration grades from NumbersUSA seem to be always with us. Like never say die Chicago Cub fans, they’ll be back… Maybe next time will be the year… And maybe not.

24. In all the various public demonstrations I have done with Confederate symbolism the vast majority (sometimes unanimously so) of the responses I have gotten here in SC and over in GA has been positive. People here like to see Confederate symbolism. As far as costumes, you are thinking of the Southern heritage folks who reenact battles from the 1860s. I do not do this. I dress well (in a modern fashion) and march or protest with our symbols. The White public here loves it and some of the Blacks actually have no problem with it either. Contrast that to the sort of response you would get flying a swastika flag and seig heiling. Remember that as late as the 1980s there were Southern politicians campaigning with Confederate symbolism in the Lower South. And most White Southerners support the symbol. It would be much easier to unite our people around that symbol than it would a foreign flag from the WWII era.

    This is fine and well but it does not mean that Rockwell was not 100% right. Just for the record. Imagine two men more different than Rockwell and Paul, if you can. Yet both stood for pulling the rug out from underneath our tyrants.

25. Bill Yancey posted 1,394 words to advocate Ron Paul when it is simply a fact and just as Rockwell stated decades ago, the white working class is NEVER going to vote for libertarian candidates, no matter how strong the racial message. They are not going to vote to take away their pensions and SS and better than minimum wage paychecks and to make it so they have to work until they are 85. They are not going to do it. Period. They will fly the Swastika and wear brown shirted uniforms before libertarians have any political clout.

    Moreover, I am getting as tired hearing the most staunch libertarian advocates as I do the friggin bar bums who sit around telling how to make money. I am tired for the very same identical reason. The bar bum has not, has never, and never will know how to make money. Likewise, the most staunch libertarians have not, do not, and never will know how business is actually run and how wealthy men really get really wealthy. Almost all libertarians are from the very same class: The lowest rungs of the middle class. And that is where they will stay.

26. Hell, George Wallace himself, of school door fame, renounced his segregationist beliefs. When are ya gonna do a piece on his unworthiness?

27. I think that Ron Paul’s main appeal was simply that among all those candidates running he was the most honest among them and I agree with both him and Osama bin Laden that we got attacked on 9/11 because we support Israel and back up the Saudi, Kuwaiti, and other monarchies in the Persian Gulf with troops in order to keep the oil flowing.

    As an aside I can assure you that the fractional reserve banking system is of no help to anyone except the bankers. Since the FED was founded the dollar has lost well over 95% of its value.

28. Yes. Ron Paul may say some ridiculous things about Blacks, including promising to free drug dealers, but everyone knows that the most important part of his agenda is not auditing the Fed but dismantling the Civil Rights laws, which everyone knows would lead to viable white communities popping up everywhere. Which the anti-whites would like to avoid by any means necessary.

29. Bill Yancey posted 1,394 words to advocate Ron Paul when it is simply a fact and just as Rockwell stated decades ago, the white working class is NEVER going to vote for libertarian candidates, no matter how strong the racial message. They are not going to vote to take away their pensions and SS and better than minimum wage paychecks and to make it so they have to work until they are 85. They are not going to do it. Period. They will fly the Swastika and wear brown shirted uniforms before libertarians have any political clout.

    Moreover, I am getting as tired hearing the most staunch libertarian advocates as I do the friggin bar bums who sit around telling how to make money. I am tired for the very same identical reason. The bar bum has not, has never, and never will know how to make money. ”

    Jack Ryan replies:

    Very well said. Work shirking Libertarian intellectuals are a curse to our people. Don’t feed the Libertarians.

30. Jack:

    Now we’re back to square one. We both know the Libertarian Party will no sooner win the White House than the Natural Law Party. Yet, you grind on libertarianism and the person of Ronald Ernest Paul in particular (even though you’ve told me in other media you’re okay with Rand Paul, mainly because of his younger age and greater flexibility). How can I not think you have some sort of personal axe to grind?

    It’s not some great sin if you do. It makes you human, just like six billion of us.

    I don’t think the cult of libertarianism is as widespread an opiate among us WN/RR folk as you would like to think. I think almost all of us recognize Ron Paul’s and libertarianism’s flaws, but embrace parts of it for one of two reasons if not both: 1. Disparate impact, in that libertarian ideology as the effect if not the intent of accruing to the benefit of WN/RR (I don’t agree with that contention all the way, though, because of most libertarians’ desire for open borders), and/or 2. There are parts of libertarian doctrine with which we agree, even if we reject the whole hog.

    Gary Johnson would have done much better for himself and for us running for U.S. Senate from New Mexico this year. I’d rather be a U.S. Senator than get 0.1% of the vote running for President.

    You’re right in that Ron Paul wasn’t the only clueless race-denier running for President this year. There was also Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, Tim Pawlenty and Barack Obama.

    I want a white ethnostate as badly as you do and as badly as everyone reading these words do. But we’re a long long long way from getting it in the realm of high level electoral politics. I hate to break it to everyone, but there’s no Theodore Bilbo in the bullpen.

31. Brutus, Paul’s libertarianism isn’t what made him the obvious choice, any more than George Wallace’s Democratic Party membership made him an FDR or an Obama. In our era any big difference with the unified “two party” regime is one worth supporting. Those unable to see that are those responsible for what we now receive.

32. The difference between Ron Paul and Mitt Romney was that Paul aggressively courted Hispanics in the primary and opposed the border fence in the primary while Romney would only abandon his position after winning enough delegates to secure the Republican nomination.

33. So, I’m re-reading comments and this one stood out:

    it is simply a fact and just as Rockwell stated decades ago, the white working class is NEVER going to vote for libertarian candidates, no matter how strong the racial message.

    What is it, your duty to see this statement codified into law? Is that your real beef with Paul? Even when the alternatives are Obama and Mitt?

    Maybe Rockwell foresaw people like you!

34. No HW, there were a million bigger differences.

35. HW:

    Ron Paul’s campaign had (and still has) a Hispanic outreach director, who said during the convention that Romney didn’t appeal to Hispanics enough. Hispanic vote 60-80% Democrat consistently because as Bill Richardson said, Hispanics want welfare programs. Hispanics will never give a majority of their votes to either Ron Paul or Mitt Romney versus any Democrat.

    RP said numerous times during the debates that he was opposed to a border wall because he was worried that it would fence us in. From what? Who wants to flee to Mexico? Mexico wants to flee here for a reason, and that reason is why nobody but a thug on the lam wants to “flee” to Mexico. I guess what RP is worried about is the increasing American despotism, but that’s mainly a direct function of racial egalitarian fanaticism. If America was virtually 100% white, the Federal government would be nowhere near as abusive as it is because there would be no multiracialist ideology to use as the keystone to the abuse of power.

36. coutenance,

    Paul’s platform was essentially an anti-government one. That alone was worth supporting, no matter how much PC was flung about. And don’t even try and tell me that the other candidates didn’t wreak of PC a thousand times more than Paul.

37. As a person intimately involved with train wreck that was the Ron Paul campaign in 2008, and as someone who watched with detached amusement the Ron Paul train wreck in 2012, I can say that Ron Paul is a steaming pile of horse shit who took all the revolutionary spirit of his fanatics (enough spirit, I might add, for a thousand honest revolutions), and guided it gently to siding in the middle of nowhere.

    Thanks, Ron.

38. “but everyone knows that the most important part of his agenda is not auditing the Fed but dismantling the Civil Rights laws,”

    No, I don’t know that. How does “everyone” know this?

39. “What is it, your duty to see this statement codified into law? Is that your real beef with Paul?”

    It does not need codified into law. The white working class is never going to vote in a libertarian.

    And if you mean that Rockwell well knew that even 40 years later the white working class did not vote for a Ron Paul, than yes, I guess he did foresee my reactions.

40. Brutus:

    Who voted for George Lincoln Rockwell? I think he got a big time 1.5% of the vote when he ran for Governor of Virginia. Not much better than what libertarians get.

    Land Shark:

    Anyone running for President on the Republican platform can’t rely on young people (under 30) to carry the day. The percentage of people that vote in Republican primaries and caucuses that are under 30 is miniscule. 45-64 is where it’s at.

41. American Politics .01 For Dummies:

    Even as a man could not run, much less win, office in the USSR without submitting to regime rhetoric, so it is in the USA.

    American Politics .02 For Super Dummies:

    In an era when you have little choice, look at the big picture and go with the obvious outsider. Casting your vote for a Krushchev over a Stalin, while a Solzhenitsyn is available is not something you want to brag about to future generations.

42. “As a person intimately involved with train wreck that was the Ron Paul campaign in 2008, and as someone who watched with detached amusement the Ron Paul train wreck in 2012, I can say that Ron Paul is a steaming pile of horse shit who took all the revolutionary spirit of his fanatics (enough spirit, I might add, for a thousand honest revolutions), and guided it gently to siding in the middle of nowhere.

    Thanks, Ron.”

    And THAT is another thing. A big ‘nother thing.

    Ron Paul is just not serious. It is obvious.

43. But Yancey, is a conclusion that is not relevant an honest conclusion?

44. Another issue:

    Nobody like us will win a major party Presidential nomination for the foreseeable future. The reason is that it takes big money to win one, so you either have to have it itself, which means you probably made your fortune in a treacherous fashion, or you have to hustle it, from people who are spending money precisely to keep people like us from getting power.

    I pay attention to Presidential politics because I’m a junkie, but I don’t devote my political self-esteem to them because I know we’re shut out from them. From a practical standpoint, I’m far more concerned about downballot.

45. Btw Republitards, Romney did not win the nomination, Paul did. Every state election that mattered was administered dishonestly. In most contests where cheating is found the cheaters are disqualified. Admittedly, it isn’t so in American politics. You do indeed get what you vote for.

46. Bill Yancey:

    There couldn’t be that much fraud. I think there was some anti-RP fraud and cheating in spots, but not widespread.

    Mitt Romney won the nomination because it was “his turn.” The Republican Party on the Presidential level is a “my turn” party. The two most correct things Boob Dole ever said was that (1) The party platform is a meaningless piece of paper, and (2) He was going to win the nomination in 1996 over PJB because it was “my turn.” Coming out of left field to win the nomination is more a Democrat thing.

47. American Politics 101 through Ph.d:

    Libertarian Politics are a losing proposition when it comes to the white working class.

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    “Who voted for George Lincoln Rockwell? I think he got a big time 1.5% of the vote when he ran for Governor of Virginia. Not much better than what libertarians get.”

    Right. A uniformed Nazi back in the mid 1960s, at the peak of when a lot of ordinary white men, many without even a high school diploma, were making enough money in the heavily unionized manufacturing and construction industries each year to have been able to buy if they had wanted to TWO of the middle of the line good cars from an American auto industry and enough money in two years to be able to afford a nice home in a good suburb, at the peak of this Rockwell got a higher percentage of the white vote than a Libertarian got in 2012 America.

    That is right. A Nazi did better then than Libertarians can do right now today. That should tell you something about what the white working class thinks of Libertarians. Moreover, a Rockwell would probably get elected today IF he had the ass and guts that George Lincoln Rockwell had. I guarantee that he would get a much higher percentage of the vote.

48. But Yancey, is a conclusion that is not relevant an honest conclusion?

    I take it you’re a ‘if a tree fell in the forest and nobody heard it, did it really make a noise’ person?

    Just as the noise will be heard by and affect something, a man should feel pity for himself for sticking his fingers in his ears during a symphony. If I had voted for Nixon instead of Wallace I would be ashamed. As ashamed as having voted for Romney instead of Paul. Because of the substantial difference between Nixon/Humphrey and Wallace and between Romney/Obama and Paul.

49. Are “lost causes” worth fighting for, my fellow Confederates?

    Geeez.

50. Brutus,

    You’re just as delusional as the libertarian cultists. 1.5% is better than 1.0% but still not 50.1%.

    In my memory, the best showing for a LP candidate was Bill Johnson, for Missouri U.S. Senate, in 1994, who got 5% of the vote. But that was because: (1) Johnson was against NAFTA and GATT, and (2) John Ashcroft winning that race over the black Democrat was a foregone conclusion. Third parties do better when it is clear that the Republican or the Democrat will win easily. If things tighten up, or it is perceived that they are, people line up behind one of the two monoliths.