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I’m still deeply conflicted about the future of OD … as of this morning, I have decided to divide my time between two websites, OD which will revert to its original focus on racial and cultural preservation, and my new website, which will cater to a more narrow focus on Southern Nationalism.
Note: I’m already feeling some nostalgia for the original banner. It is a better match for “Occidental Dissent” than Oak Alley.
I’m still deeply conflicted about the future of OD …
Lol, you don’t say.
Wouldn’t it be more accurate to suggest you feel conflicted about the direction pro-white politics should take?
I’m planning on addressing that in an essay later tonight.
The basic theme of the essay will be that all the Western countries are suffering from similar problems, but the solution to those problems ought to vary in response to local conditions.
Black crime is a problem in Dixie, Canada, and Australia. Does that mean we ought to be the same nation?
I think, more honestly, we should be saying:
“Hey, O’Nigger! We’re waiting for your ‘response’!
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/12/texas-secession-petition-ignored-by-white-house/
Since awakening from my self-induced liberal coma, I’ve been delving into all manner of race-realist information, and have come to realize that there is little profit in trying to forward one “white nation” with America. Whites are too deeply divided along lines of politics and religion and local culture, divisions that go far deeper than the ability of skin color to heal.
I’m no religionist, but I recoil from whites who say that the only way forward for our race and culture is to abandon the idea of God completely. No thanks. And I’m not for exterminating anybody, blacks or jews or roman catholics. And I have a growing belief that the southern conservative whites who are so reviled by the intelligentsia (liberal and conservative, white and non-), might perhaps carry the seeds of a reflowering of western culture down the road. Call me crazy 😉
I’m glad your blogs are out there – thanks.
As we have focused more intensely on solutions, we have neglected the common problems. The obverse is also true.
The solution for the South is independence.
What about the rest of you fuckers though? Can an independent South thrive in a Western world that is still dominated by anti-racism and multiculturalism? What happens if we secede only to become another Ireland?
Clearly, it is in our best interest to secede from the Union. Similarly, it is also in our best interest that suicidal Yankees walk back from the edge of the cliff like the guy in the Collective Soul video.
I’m already feeling some nostalgia for the original banner. It is a better match for “Occidental Dissent” than Oak Alley.
Plenty of fodder for your critics here. But when you get down to it, there’s only so much beer to drink and only so many dirt roads to hit isn’t there.
I can’t pretend I’m not disappointed but do what you must.
An independent South won’t happen in a vacuum. There’ll have to be similar boiling over throughout the western world – which there already is! But just as important as outside changes are to achieving independence here, so is each regional push a part of the machinery of outside changes. This why you see the European efforts anxiously cooperating with each other but each concentrating most of its energy on its own case. Unlike American WN.
Seems some group ought to be arguing a Reservation versus Secession angle for this time around.
That Genocide has been attempted on Southerners is much more clear-cut than on “whites.” Portugal is “still” 94% Portuguese despite its deep immersion in slavery. Whether from ‘total war’ policy to Missouri civilian clearances, right up to and including various disenfranchising economic policies or policies of defamation propaganda, southern whites are a clear target, but what should concern other whites is how it’s turned into a money-making business, which means that ever-more “white groups” are targeted also, in the same model— e.g., the inclusion of “flyover country-ites” or “de-industrialized rust belters,” etc.
The “occidental” versus Southern issue seems to go to the heart of that.
But how anyone COULD be a (real) white nationalist IF THEY DIDN’T ALSO acknowledge the ethno-nationalism of the white South group (as well as other white sub-groups). Otherwise “we’re all white here” would only obscure WHICH white group (that have fought for thousands of years) are taking the lead. It is working toward “either-or” solutions, subjugating “whites” to one type of white, rather than toward a coalition of various whites, all of whom retain identities.
The same would be true at any Indian conference. Just because you’re at an Indian conference, doesn’t mean you cease to be Cherokee, Cree, Algonquian, etc. At least the Indians seem to know that idea is laughable. Because they are different tribes, they each get their own reservation/ land.
@ “….This why you see the European efforts anxiously cooperating with each other but each concentrating most of its energy on its own case. Unlike American WN…..”
Here, in two succinct sentences, is what I take ten paragraphs to say. —fear I will never learn this art of brevity.
Plenty of websites will yammer on and on and on about abstract minutae that 99.9% of whites could barely understand, I say devote more time to taking strategy to the tactical level for the Dixie Republic.
I don’t think so.
The disconnect between “Occidental Dissent” and the Oak Alley banner and Confederate flag and the new theme of Southern Nationalism has been an ongoing source of annoyance for months now.
http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2012/06/12/confederate-renaissance/
“Occidental Dissent” no longer reflected by ideological evolution. In November, I finally registered “Confederate Renaissance,” but I was unable to successfully import the OD database into the new site. I had intended to discontinue OD altogether and continue this website as CR in 2013.
In the last few days or so, I started mulling over the idea of spinning off CR into a separate project, while maintaining OD as a separate website that would focus more intensively on BRA.
Well your decision, maybe this will help, its Whitaker throwing the last dirt on Conservative Inc.
http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/12/12/the-conservative-lunch-wagon-has-finally-derailed/
Um. You need to have a donate/paypal button somewhere on your websites… 😉
Hunter,
as a fellow Southern Nationalist and a big fan, I like the direction in which OD has evolved. If you think you can run and do justice to two blogs at the same time then I wish you best of luck with that endeavor. There does in fact (after all) exist a risk of losing the readership of non-Southerners if you concentrate on us to the exclusion of other dispossessed branches of Homo Sapiens Europaeus.
In terms of the future of the European Man, well you have to realize that evolution is at work here. European Man is well-adapted to life in a stone age Europe. He is not well-adapted to life in any of his present-day habitats, neither urban Europe nor rural Alabama. For example, only the toughest of us could live in places like Texas before the invention of refrigerated air. Of the human races present in the United States today, the Jew is best adapted for life in the big city, the Negro for life along the gulf coast, and the hybrid Mestizo for life in the arid West. European Man is a discontinued, disappearing model in the modern world – in character he is too altruistic and individualistic, while physically he is not particularly athletic and not well-adapted to hot climates. He is a goner. Politically, the best we can hope for and work for is the creation of our own state (e.g. in the South) which will protect us and give us our best chance at a future. We will gradually adapt and transform into a new breed, better adapted to our local conditions than any other race of man. Nature will solve this problem for us if we let her.
Yankeeland is a thorn in the throat of not just Dixie but the entire West. Yankeeland is irredeemable in every sense. Supposing those two truthes it could be of interest to continue the autopsy of BRA. In that sense, OD would become an ideological antechamber to Confederate Renaissance with the putrescent corpse of Uncle Sam on full display.
Derb writes for VDARE and Takimag.
Whatever your decision is Hunter, I wish you the best of luck.
I think having two websites is more work than you really want or need. You will end up with a lot of nothing. But, hey, it’s you dime & time.
I wish Dixiegirl had a website.
What little I know about my Confederate ancestors I learned from my grandmother who heard it first, or second hand, from, or about the actual people. I wish I had paid more attention.
The UDC also did much to preserve the memory & lore of the Confederacy.
My sentiment is that two sites is a mistake. I think it was working fine the way it was. A two-site approach might result is a loss of focus and marginalizing your own work on the South. I don’t think you need to abandon Occidental Dissent with a Southern theme and focus just to write about other issues. Just roll it all under OD.
Derb writes for VDARE and Takimag.
He writes much the same thing at both sites. There is a greater divergence in the two views you’re attempting to present. I think you’ll end up realizing you can’t serve two masters, but give it a go.
What do you think the most effective way of handling the pseudo-scientific loons is?
European Man is well-adapted to life in a stone age Europe. He is not well-adapted to life in any of his present-day habitats, neither urban Europe nor rural Alabama.
On the one hand, the racial passion is there and you know he’s going to be representing your side in a sense (among family, friends, and occasionally further afield) so you want to provide some guidance. On the other hand, there isn’t much you can do. These people get a handle on race, evolution and heredity (or think they do) and they set off on a mad scramble to shoehorn every observation into a hereditarian framework, and they will not be denied. It’s almost worth posing as an ‘anti-racist’ to dissuade their associating themselves with you. (There is no end of complete lunatics on the left, of course, but theirs isn’t an incipient politic struggle so such people are not nearly as damaging to their cause.)
I nominate Steven Akins of VNN to take over Occidental Dissent. He’s the smartest poster they’ve got, and he even bucks against Al (He Ain’t Yer Pal) Linder and he’s a Southron to boot.
It’s time to being a Dynasty of Pro-White/Pro-Confederate websites.
PS: And I found this banner in the OD forum that is pretty dang cool:
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n593/heartlandphotos/OccidentalDissentBANNER-870×272-GoldTitle-VersionA-1.jpg
Has anyone seen the Buon Fresco by Raphael in person?
It’s in an ante room to the Sistine chapel. The crowd rushes by it to get to the chapel. Lots of people miss it. I’ve got photos of myself
Posing under it taken by my gal. It’s better than the ceiling IMHO. Michaelangelo was an over exuberant interior decorator.
There’salso a really excellent photorealistic version of School, by Malcolm Morley. By happy accident his register was off on the grid transfer so the entire picture has the decapitation of the philosophers. Enjoy.
http://www.saatchi-gallery.co.uk/aipe/imgs/morley/morley_6.jpg
It’s incidentally funny given that the west has lost its head.
I like the return to the old banner, which probably doesn’t surprise anyone. I think it’s good move, separating the pro-Southern/secession stuff from the more general white interest pieces. Given of course, that you can handle keeping two blogs warm on the regular.
“The solution for the South is independence. What about the rest of you fuckers though?”
– Only time will answer that. Disunion is a somber eventuality, and when the time comes, each of us is going to have decide whether to assert ownership of the ground on which we stand, or else pull up stakes and flock to places inhabited by those we each personally identify as “our kind”. Me? I’m not going anywhere.
Nice pick with the video, Hunter. Incidentally, I was in college in the mid-90’s, when Collective Soul was enjoying their 15 minutes. I think this one is a better expression of where I personally stand with regard to my fate and my national identity:
Tamer of Savages says:
December 12, 2012 at 4:59 pm
Yankeeland is a thorn in the throat of not just Dixie but the entire West…..
This is very true and illustrates why we’re in a unique position with the potential of affecting the entire Occident. We are the only national entity that could conceivably cripple the beast short of it entirely decomposing on its own.
So an argument could be made that Dixie is the most relevant occidental nation at this point, Oak Alley banner or not. I hope HW considers this.
Hell, the European nationalist parties should be sending us financial support!
Seriously, I don’t care what banner is on the website or if it’s done through OD, CR, SNN or any other group, the call should be put out for more recognition from Europe. SN is in their immediate interest as much as it is in our own.
Hunter,
I love both of them; seeing those trees with that mansion in the background just thrills my heart. I also love the cultural look of the other banner. Folks, we have to set out our vision, name our enemies, (mo matter the party or affliliation) and form a united front. Everyone can see our enemies have been doing that for many years; we can settle our differences later but right now we need to fight and survive. This is what Hitler did in Germany. He wanted all White volk united under a banner of Pan-European force to counter the same forces we have against us now.
The Greeks also had many differences amongst themselves, even warring against each other, but when the Persians invaded, they put those aside and fought to preserve their country, folk, culture, and way of life.
I have decided to divide my time between two websites, OD which will revert to its original focus on racial and cultural preservation, and my new website, which will cater to a more narrow focus on Southern Nationalism.
I am relived and delighted. I was afraid you were going to throw yourself into Southern Nationalism all together and the rest of us would be kinda ‘not welcome’ anymore.
Your amazing output and the consistent high quality of your writing means there ought be no fear of you not being able to ‘keep em both warm’ as someone suggested earlier.
Good luck Hunter, and thanks for all your hard work.
Excellent news. It is right and possible to be both pan-racial and intra-ethnic, conserving Western culture and racial genetics and regional culture and ethnicity.
As weisser wolf wrote above, “we have to set out our vision, name our enemies…and form a united front. Everyone can see our enemies have been doing that for many years; we can settle our differences later but right now we need to fight and survive (…) The Greeks also had many differences amongst themselves, even warring against each other, but when the Persians invaded, they put those aside and fought to preserve their country, folk, culture, and way of life.”
focus on Southron nationalism. the yankee is the enemy of all Whites an defeating them/ leaving the union is the only possible chance White folks have. focusing on BRA is a side battle of the over all mission
Earl Butz says:
“….I wish Dixiegirl had a website. What little I know about my Confederate ancestors I learned from my grandmother who heard it first, or second hand, from, or about the actual people. I wish I had paid more attention…..”
Thank you, if you’re serious, Earl. I would really like it, but fear I’m not sharp enough. And politics is something I’m not very good at— but would love to have some sort of forum for recovering (and other) Southerners, a place to share what they DO remember (even if they are sorry they didn’t listen harder to their grandmother’s as you say). At least you remember SOMETHING, b/c some had it ALL ripped away from them.
A sort of repository of personal stories and oral tradition that also would link southern voices out there— like in ‘wn’ The Oldman or Bob Whitaker’s Untrained Eye series, James Edwards. And there would be reading lists of southern writers and movements. Maybe a whole area for the Southern Agrarians, and ferret out the Northeast “Studio Southerners” who really are not. And discuss that phenomenon, also, of being so hated on the one hand, yet people faking being you, on the other. That’s very weird, imo.
The kind of place that could have a forum to voice the weird stories about what Real Southerners have gone through, especially since 1965, in their families, and forced integration, and the ambivalence of the Southern adults, the way they dealt with it all— what it’s like to always know, or slowly realize, that you were born on the “wrong side of history,” the ambivalence felt about the anti-southern iconography all around them, and so on, all the harm done. And who are real allies.
Not to mention the personal side of slavery, maybe. How you found out whether you had them or not, and what was your assumption before you knew any truth about it, and the journey of feelings about it, and so on.
Just a variety of things Southerners talk about in closed company. The personal side of the Southern experience is very interesting—- and the repository of the Oral Tradition.
So maybe— a sort of Stormfront for Southern people (with confederate family).
—- OT, but on the “studio southrons” issue, what that conversation opens up is the real history, imo, of “created groups” (supposedly southern that are not) that are used for social control.
Like the way Emmy Lou Harris is from D.C., or Gillian Welch the product of Hollywood writers, and so on— Or Cormac McCarthy, Jim Goad, etc, etc. Many can imitate the external “VOICE” for awhile, and so the southerners identify with them, yet if you look more closely, they have no LOVE of the people. (To a point, I’d even put Flannery O’Conner in there…though many would call it sacrilege since she really was Southern, but she was in more protestant Georgia, not a catholic stronghold like New Orleans— and I do think her catholicism set her apart there, and set her up to “critique” the south that she experienced as “different” around her—a critique of her that’s never been explored).
—-Anyway, the subtext of that issue is the CONTROL of Southerners, imo. Trying to create “fan bases” in “their” music and so on. Yankees playing Southerner to “frame their debates,” etc.
But Southerners have little place to discuss all this themselves.
“I am relived and delighted. I was afraid you were going to throw yourself into Southern Nationalism all together and the rest of us would be kinda ‘not welcome’ anymore.”
Ditto. However, the Southern focused pieces did make me more interested in Southron culture and appreciate it more.
Wish there was a way to be an honorary southerner. Seems my idealogy is very similar but I was born above the mason dixon.
From my point of view I have to concur with Stonelifter.
The North Eastern white (AKA Yankee) is operating an Empire. Other whites in the South and west are subject peoples. Certain areas of Europe are subjects too. Nogs are a form of Stormtrooper. So are Jews although they are generally robbing you blind with a suit and a brief.
These Yankee might well piss and moan about banksters and the 1%, about militarists and exploiters, but they are the center of the storm. Their power rests on whites controlling land and resources and other markets, but they hide it by cloaking themselves with liberal sentiment, multicuralism and antiracist rhetoric. They are the dead center, the calm right at the eye of a hurricane.
“I have decided to divide my time between two websites, OD which will revert to its original focus on racial and cultural preservation, and my new website, which will cater to a more narrow focus on Southern Nationalism.”
My two cents: big mistake.
If the election proved anything, it is that the NWA yankee is as much a mythological beast the nice negro of the color blind society imagined by DWLs.
The only reason for the current Western racial and cultural situation is yankeedom. The nations in the post-WW2 US sphere of influence are the ones afflicted by PC multiculturalism, which is simply the old yankee melting pot writ large to include and emphasize black and browns as the noble immigrants who “enrich” society with their magic diversity.
While most of the yankees who frequent this site would greatly appreciate a “tard corral” site for Southern nationalists, it won’t accomplish much more than to divide your attention and time between the two sites and dilute your efforts.
NWA’s are at best a fringe group within the larger anti-white yankee society, with its animus against all things Southern. They won’t be leading the way for Western civilization any time soon. Quite the contrary.
Worship of the magical noble negro savage is the centerpiece of the northern secular religion that has supplanted Christianity almost entirely in yankeedom. I don’t think there is a prayer of destroying their state religion. Their identification with and allegiance to this religion is very sincere and heartfelt.
Their liberal faith in magic negroes is one of the very few convictions yankees have that remain. They cannot abandon it without the terrifying loss of identity that would follow. Yankees will not abandon their faith, regardless of any facts you present. If we are extremely lucky, we might arrest the progress of this poisonous ideology in the South.
Might as well try to convert Muslims to Christianity while you’re at it. After that, you could move on to the even bigger project of the restoration of virginity.
Anything is possible. There are no limits. That’s the progressive way.
“Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow.” – Aesop
Deo Vindice
TMT — Episode #152.5 — The jewboys Ghettoize Theysselfs — 13Dec12
Dec. 13, 2012 9:30 pm EST/8:30 pm CST
Within this bowel Movement of ours there are fits of activity followed by weeks of the same old shit. This week, the pot boiled over when Rabbi Lender/Linder, the gut-sick guido kikenweasel with Crohns/jew ass-GAIDS got so kikeazoid arrogant along with his bevy of jew, mamzer and whigger fuktarded meercats on their jewsade against Christianity that Hunter Wallace/Brad Griffin simply dropped out and Jim Giles (also sometimes known as Roid Rage ReTard) said that he was through and went out and interviewed Doctor Kevin MacDonald. The interview was a success in that KMac and possibly even Greg Johnson are wanting to work with their young “Southern Nationalist” intellectual associate in discussing mythical peaceful secession. By further marginalizing Rabbi Linder’s nest of VNNF/TGMNNF/GFRTC&CBNNF meercat fuktards and theyz’ bogus calls for pseudo-violence they leave the road open to destructive intellectual criticism which is the fore-runner of imperial breakup. Furthermore, they leave open allied work in progress. Hunter Wallace has decided to open up a new blog — Confederate Renaissance — which will focus on Southern Nationalism.
Hunter says that he is conflicted over this matter. No reason to be conflicted. This is the Internut where you can have your cake and eat it too. Hunter should keep up with his flagship, Occidental Dissent, and the Neo-Confederate blog should have the cross-postings that fit with the new, more Southern Nationalist blog-view. In addition, Hunter should make a database backup of his current v-bulletin v3.72 forum, buy a Xenforo license for $140 with the ability to support up more video formats than just v-bulletin, and once upgraded, let his buddy Kane12345666 have the old license to take over to http://www.thephora.co so as to set up Phorafags/feebs Classic and let all the old-timers banned from phorafags/feebs post there as well. Additionally, given that Jim Giles is wanting to work with Hunter and KMac on a continuing basis, while sanity lasts Hunter/Brad should use Radio Free Mi$$i$$ippi as his podcast format arm and try to make Jim Giles stick with what Jim Giles does best — act as a sorta racist Dick Cavett or Jack Paar — and give out “good interview.” It is when Jim Giles gets off giving good interview and thinks that he is Mike Wallass or some other jew attack reporter and ends up going all jewrry Springer that he steps on his own dick trying to step on the dicks of others.
Thus Rabbi Lender/Linder is further ghettoized and marginalized on itz own ZOGbot colostomy bag & tard corral with itz delusional and mongrelized meercats.
Hunter/Brad can perhaps talk about this matter by calling in to tonight’s Movement Turd after 9:15 pm CST.
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=111132&cmd=tc
Hail Victory!!!
Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
It is not a tard corral site.
I had planned to move everything to CR, but I couldn’t figure out how to move the OD database, so I was left with two sites.
““I am relived and delighted. I was afraid you were going to throw yourself into Southern Nationalism all together and the rest of us would be kinda ‘not welcome’ anymore.”
Ditto. However, the Southern focused pieces did make me more interested in Southron culture and appreciate it more.
Wish there was a way to be an honorary southerner. Seems my idealogy is very similar but I was born above the mason dixon.”
^^
The above comments from Mary and Cracker are cause for great concern.
Southern Nationalists in the past could have been considered a trend within a larger ‘movement’. They were first past the post and are now mainstream. There is no more overarching loser WN movement. Serious pro-Whites in BRA from here on out operate under the southern aegis.
If you’re a non-Southern pro-White you’re immersing yourself in Southron culture (start with the Bible) and preparing for the move. When you arrive in Dixie you will fly Beauregard’s flag. You will join a church. You will fix your stupid Yankee accent. You will engender all the good and prohibit all the evil.
If as a BRA-aware white man/woman you’re not doing those things….. sorry. You’re a Chris313, an Alex Linder. You’re fighting for your block or all of BRA. Both losing propositions.
You don’t have to move the database, you could just purchase the domain and point it to the server, then configure wordpress to use the new domain.
To move the database, you would export the backup then import it through mysql.
Thephora.co is not serious.
There’s another forum software that I like, that allows for perfect facebook integration. You dont’ have to even register normally.
You can cross-post your Occidental Dissent posts that are relevant to CR. Your OD blog is the flagship of your operations.
You have the opportunity to work with your fellow intellectuals if you wish to do so. You also could expand your operations to a certain extent by upgrading your forum, by working on podcasts with a fellow Southerner while his sanity lasts, and reward your friend Kane with something superfluous. This doesn’t have to be all or nothing but rather incremental expansion — if you wish to take advantage of it.
And you are of course welcome to call in tonight and discuss strategy on the Movement Turd — if you wish.
Hail Victory!!!
Pastor Martin LD Lindstedt CJCC/AN
What I think you should do is have both confederate renaissance and occidental dissent point to the same website, but have confederate renaissance point to a subfolder.
Then you should have two blogs on the same website. You should do this http://support.godaddy.com/help/article/4688/managing-your-hosting-account-domains
That way the occidental dissent name could be used to access confederate renaissance (if you say occidentaldissent/name-of-folder) but you could also use the separate domain and it’s one website still, perhaps with two wordpress installations.
“I’m still deeply conflicted about the future of OD”
It seems to me there’s two worthwhile forms of political activity.
1. Foundational: this is where you attack the underpinnings of the current cultural hegemony. If you can change the foundations of politics then you will indirectly change the superstructure. BRA, Mantra, attacking anti-white double-standards etc all do this in their own way. Success at this leads to other people you never met suddenly doing something somewhere.
2. Superstructure: this is direct involvement in the political structure which i think is pointless when the foundations are against you – unless you’re simply using it as a vehicle for actually doing foundational politics. However at the same time the end result of foundational politics is to make working in the superstructure worthwhile.
It does look like the secessionist southern frog may have been boiled enough to consider jumping out of the pot so it does make sense to focus on that aspect but how best to organize it i don’t know. I’m guessing that some of the articles you get the urge to write won’t entirely fit on the southern site so OD could still be a repository for those – so stuff that entirely suits the southern secessionist angle goes in one place and everything else can go on OD. Maybe?
It all depends on the percentage of articles you think you’re likely to write which will suit CR. If it’s 90% that leads to one answer. If it’s maybe 60% then you’d still want OD.