Italian Americans are our most solid, pro White RACIST group. For our younger readers still learning the hidden truths of racial realities, please read up on Philadelphia, Italian American police chief and mayor Frank Rizzo. Black mobs rioted and destroyed most of Detroit, Newark, Watts, the West Side of Chicago in the late 1960s. But, they did not do so in Frank Rizzo’s Philadelphia (Link). On the international scene from Europe to the United Kingdom to Australia to South America, it’s the same positive story.
Italians are very racist, solidly in our White camp.
Thus, it is with great joy and much relief that we learn that the new Catholic Pope Francis is an Argentinean of Italian heritage (most Argentineans are Italians). He is apparently a solid, traditional Jesuit, not in to some cultural marxist abomination of Catholicism like “Liberation Theology”.
So the good news (“gospel”) is that the Catholic church has gone for White “Hispanic” leadership and the top of the church is back in Italian hands.
Steve Sailer has some excellent comments on this great White Hispanic choice for Pope and has added some funny (accurate) Italian soccer themes (Link):
“Pope Francis I: A Lionel Messi halo effect?
By Steve Sailer on March 13, 2013 at 11:52pm
I read in Grantland yesterday:
There was even a rumor making the rounds Tuesday afternoon that the cardinals in Rome trying to elect a pope conveniently called it a day a half-hour before the Barcelona-Milan game so they could catch the broadcast.
Barcelona’s great Italian-Argentine leader Lionel Messi broke out of a minor slump to score two goals to lead Barcelona to a 4-0 win over Silvio Berlusconi’s AC Milan.
Today, it was announced that the conclave had elected an Italian-Argentine cardinal, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, to be the new Pope.
Coincidence?
Viewed in the crass terms of ethnic politics, this pick looks like a two-fer: satisfying the rising Hispanic tidal wave etc., while letting the Italians get back the Papacy, which they held for about a half-millennium up until the Polish Pope.”
Long live the Pope!
At Lew, Hunter:
Italians down here are not liberal I can assure you, nor have they ever been.
Ok, What’s your evidence? Not a challenge as much as a real curiosity to tell me where I have gone wrong in my thinking.
Here is what I know. In the south, the largest concentration of Italians is in South Florida. This concentration is in deep blue areas. These areas are small enough where the local Italian population should have an influence on the state congressperson or federal congressperson for that area, but the reps in there areas are all blue.
Orthodox writes:
The issue of personal versus political is two different questions. Italians vote white, it’s just that most whites in the Northeast are liberals. Also, many NE Italians and Irish are in the police and fire departments. Many “conservatives” are reflexively anti-union and come from Wall Street, not Main Street. If Pat Buchanan was up against a black for mayor of New York, Pat would win the Italian and Irish vote.
Giuliani was borderline reactionary in his approach to policing; Alabama would be in federal court and a “national disgrace” if it tried the same police tactics that Giuliani used in NY. Difference being that the media in NY wants to feel safe.”
Jack replies:
Very well said and true. The Southern agrarian, romantic, “conservative” world view is very beautiful, but like the similar romantic world of John Wayne/John Ford’s romanticized view of Ireland “The Quiet Man” it’s just not at all practical in a large urban American city. It’s like expecting Blacks in big cities like Chicago and New York to have good Southern manners to say “yes mame” and “no sir”. Big cities in the North and now sadly in the South need large, brutal police forces comprised of mostly Irish cops to keep people in line, especially the Blacks.
More of the Same is right! I struggle with trying to say what I mean!
But: what does it even MEAN to say “Italians are reliably racist?” LOL
This means they… hate blacks and jews. That’s my best guess. And in that SENSE, maybe they are “reliably racist” (in hating blacks and jews while having mexicans shine their shoes or whatever).
BUT RELIABLY RACIST, in a more elevated sense, would mean They are Quintessentially Italian. They immerse themselves in Italian food, land areas, music, religion, ancient artifacts, language, etc, etc. (And do this in their OWN HOMELAND).
A “SOUTHERNER” then is NOT “reliably racist.” There is more to it than just hating blacks and jews, lol. They want an area to pursue their REAL culture and traditions (which are MORE than being “anti-gay and anti-abortions,” lol).
The crave friendships with others from PLANTER SOCIETY, who came from the same european countries, have the same religion, speak the same language, share the same artists, poets, painters, sensibility.
They want to live near people who share their SENSIBILITY. They aren’t necessarily “racist” the way the word is being used here (which is just to hate groups not like you), and is just “Reactionary,” with nothing more to offer.
@ Admins.
Please allow ‘ignore’ feature or ban Dixiegirl.
PF,
I think we’re talking about different things.
Italians with long roots in the South stretching back to the 19th century are as racist as anyone. These are the specific Italians I am referring to. I think HW would confirm that.
You appear to be talking about recent or fairly recent northern transplants. Northern transplants are almost always liberal because they’re from the North. They bring the Northern worldview with them, which usually translates to being anti-Southern and liberal. But this is true for almost all northern transplants, not just the Italian ones.
Focusing on Italians is therefore counter-productive because it divides whites by ethnicity. Whites are divided enough as it is based on ideology and culture.
Suggesting Whites who bring the liberal worldview into the South are a problem is different than disparaging an entire white ethnic group based only on ethnicity.
Haha! Weren’t the Italians also beaten up by the Ethiopians? Seriously, who gets their ass kicked by ETHIOPIANS??
It’s funny. I’m an un-transplanted Northerner who grew up in one of the most liberal (and most PC) university towns in the nation if not the world, and Blacks and their total fuxxation of much or all of five major cities within day-trip driving range converted me to race cynicism long before the drip-drip-drip of knowledge about HBD pushed me into full-blown Race Realism.
We exist, folks. We’re with you. Bring back restrictive covenants, Sundown Towns, freedom to associate or dissociate at will.
“This Argentinian will mark the “turning point,” for the entire Romanization of the U.S.”
What an absolutely ridiculous statement. Most Americans don’t give a big rat’s ass about who the pope is.
Thanks Mr. Rational. I for one, welcome you.
That said, be careful about trying to “bring back the past” – ie, restore restrictive covenants, de-facto racial segregation, Sundown Towns, Apartheid, the Confederacy, National Socialist German or Czarist Russia, or the Roman Empire, Byzantium, Aryan Egyptian Sun God cults etc.
It’s impossible to “bring back the past”, we have to try to make the best of things where we live, in the here and now, or else, decide to move to a place we can realistically make a decent go at a new life. Sure, we can learn from the past, try to make new versions of things that did work in the past, and might work OK now in this very fallen age.
Thanks again – be strong and remember to have some fun, don’t give in to gloom and doom or think the world is going to end next week.
Not everything is bad, many things were worse 20 or 50 years ago.
If you are really depressed subscribe to the New York Times Obituary Page and read about all the terrible Hollywood/New York Lib/Leftists that are dying off.
And, please remember to notice the many pretty White gals in your area. If they don’t look so good, have a few more beers and then look again.
It works for me.
God bless all our people.
14 Words.
It’s impossible to “bring back the past”, we have to try to make the best of things where we live, in the here and now, or else, decide to move to a place we can realistically make a decent go at a new life.
Without the legal right to go back to what worked in the past, there’s nothing we can do; anything except walled communities runs afoul of “civil rights” and “fair housing”, and those without Big Bux for legal defense may soon be forced to accept Section 8 as well.
It’s easy to make a case for Sundown Towns. If they would save even ONE Anne Pressly….
I’ve not yet meet an Italian with roots in the South. Best I can tell they all hail from large yankee cities, and all got here within a generation . The yankee city and its ilk are BRA power centers.
granted they were reliable in the 60’s but that was then this is now
There were some Irish and Italian immigrants in Southern cities like Richmond, Charleston, and New Orleans.
In my experience, European immigrants tend to adopt the culture of the surrounding region over the course of several generations. The most stereotypical Northeastern Yankees that come to mind these days – Joan Walsh, Chris Matthews, Lawrence O’Donnell, Rachel Maddow – are actually Irish Catholics.
As everyone knows, Jews are the exception to the rule.
Hunter Wallace says:
March 15, 2013 at 9:14 pm (Edit)
In my experience, European immigrants tend to adopt the culture of the surrounding region over the course of several generations. The most stereotypical Northeastern Yankees that come to mind these days – Joan Walsh, Chris Matthews, Lawrence O’Donnell, Rachel Maddow – are actually Irish Catholics.
Jack replies:
Hunter, my Jew radar is going off big time on Lesbian, PC media talking head Rachel Maddow. Can’t see how she’s anything Irish, Catholic or any Christian religious denomination.
Hunter Wallace says:
March 15, 2013 at 9:10 pm (Edit)
There were some Irish and Italian immigrants in Southern cities like Richmond, Charleston, and New Orleans.
Jack replies:
Scarlett O’Hara’s father in Gone With the Wind was Irish immigrant, and not a real high class gentleman as I recall. Yet, he and his family were accepted as Southern Aristocrats based on the genteel Southern wife/mother. So, keep that in mind, marry up and maybe save the family reputation/gene pool.
I will acquiesce to Ann Barnhardt on Pope Francis as I consider her to be an expert on Roman Catholic theology.
It is the post titled On Francis http://barnhardt.biz/
Her individual posts are not linkable.
DixieGirl is one of the few authentic “Southern Voices” here.
As far as the Italians go, Frank Rizzo was actually somewhat of a liberal and allied with Pennsylvania’s Jewish Governor in the 1970’s Milton Shapp (Shapira). Shapp, wasn’t the worst Jew in the world, as far as Jews go, but still a Jew. Milton Shapp had made his millions in the cable TV business, and he was as big in the Philadelphia area as Frank Rizzo.
I got the first bad feedback on Pope Francis, and according to sources in Argentina he does take part in Jew religious services. Bad, bad, bad…
Rachel ?
Maddow? That’s pronounced Madoff or Maddov in Russian and German.
Bernie Madoff? Hello. I find it very hard to believe she’s not a tribal.
@Hunter & Jack: Actually there were three of them. The organ grinder and his two monkey’s.
Earl Butz says:
“As far as the Italians go, Frank Rizzo was actually somewhat of a liberal and …”
Jack Ryan responds:
Yeah, right – and I supposed Vlad the Impaler, Count Dracula was soft on Muslim Turk invaders 🙂
Here’s the immortal Frank Rizzo commenting on some Red/Leftist protesters:
“When I’m finished with them, I’ll make Attila the Hun look like a fag.'”
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Rizzo
Earlmondo / Tom / Earl Butz wins the Internet for message discipline in trolling.
@ Jack
When a Northerner or Jew talks about Conservatism he is talking about something completely different than when a Southerner talks about Conservatism.
Take Joe Paterno—who would have thunk?
@Lew
If you can’t run with the big dog, stay on the porch.
From Wiki:
‘Her paternal grandfather was from an Eastern European Jewish family (the original family surname being “Medwedof”), while her paternal grandmother was of Dutch (Protestant) background; her mother, originally from Newfoundland, Canada, is of English and Irish ancestry. Maddow has stated that her family is “very, very Catholic”, and she grew up in a community that her mother has described as “very conservative.”‘
Frank Rizzo was many things but “liberal” he was not.
@Earlmondo / Tom / Earl Butz
I think you’re slipping. You forgot to mention Catholics in your reply. Was that a first?
@Lew
Your mother’s calling you…
@Rudel I told you Frank Rizzo supported both Milton Shapp (Shapira) and Jimmy Carter. Don’t buy the bullshit, but the reality. LOL.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_VATICAN_POPE_JEWS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-03-15-09-09-34
Don’t tell me about Rizzo, Butz. I grew up there. He was a career cop, conservative Democrat (as was Shapp), and a politician. He was one of those Reagan Democrats who switched parties. He kept the niggers in line, especially during the ’64 race riots. He didn’t have a liberal bone in his entire body.
Stop writing about the North, especially about conservative states like Pennsylvania and fox hunting districts like Chester County where upper class Piedmont culture started to fade into Tidewater culture as you moved down the Brandywine Valley into Delaware (a slave state.) You simply don’t know WTF you are talking about when you do.
As for the urban Irish and Italian hoi polloi in Philly: coons were dead meat when they wandered into the wrong white neighborhoods.
So she is significantly tribal. A Jewish grandparent and a patronymic tribal name.
She identifies with this part of herself. Her editorializing is full on hasBarat.
Go home, bitch! 🙂
Rudel writes:
“As for the urban Irish and Italian hoi polloi in Philly: coons were dead meat when they wandered into the wrong white neighborhoods.”
Jack Responds:
And vitually all of America respected these great Irish, Italians in Phily and other cities for their loyalty to their neighborhoods and to their/(yeah our) people.
Even decent Black African Americans respected solid Italian Americans like Frank Rizzo.
One of the reasons the DNC was successful was they pushed White supremacy with their govt social expansion. FDR appointed a number of Klanmens to key positions. However as I said, that was then, this is now.
Rudel says, “…Most Americans don’t give a big rat’s ass about who the pope is….”
A generation ago, that was true, Rudel. Now that they are claiming “majority” of the U.S., majority of Supreme court, and overrode “separation of church and state” to give the pope full diplomatic status in the 80s (recognizing a religion as a country), that is no longer true.
Numerous people (unsolicited) talked to me about how much this “pope election” thing was on t.v.
More of the most generational Americans are getting angry. They have no newscasters even, on their televisions, that reflect their population. They do not “identify” with the italian and hispanic catholics, or spaniards, particularly.
As swift as the moves to wipe out “The Dispossessed Majority” in the past generations, there is still a remnant of them.
Personally, I think they need to get out of the country. But it’s probably 100 million people or so.
They don’t care about being “racist” in the sense usually discussed here. They WANT THEIR LIVES back, an area where they can live in their language, customs, literature, arts and so on. Where they can meet other people from the same culture.
It’s amazing people would want to “ban” me for saying that.
But that shows that’s what “nationalism” really means, which is very sad.
Italians with long roots in the South stretching back to the 19th century are as racist as anyone. These are the specific Italians I am referring to.
There are very few Italians with roots in Dixie. Almost all Southrons are of British, Irish, German, or French ancestry.
Focusing on Italians is therefore counter-productive because it divides whites by ethnicity.
Whites are already divided by ethnicity. Not talking about ethnic divisions doesn’t make those divisions go away.
I have no problem with Italians as Italians, but – with the possible exception of the few who assimilated many generations ago – they do not belong in Dixie.
Suggesting Whites who bring the liberal worldview into the South are a problem is different than disparaging an entire white ethnic group based only on ethnicity.
The most fundamental reason to oppose the colonisation of our land is because the colonists are foreigners. Their liberalism is a secondary reason and their presence here would be destructive even if they were not liberals.
@ Long Live Dixie says:
There are very few Italians with roots in Dixie. Almost all Southrons are of British, Irish, German, or French ancestry….”
There are very few (if any) Irish-Irish from Dixie, either, which is why Jim Webb wrote How the Scots Invented America, feeling that the Revisionists trotskyites had nearly wiped out the real history of the Ulstermen in Appalachia and the upper south.
Many in Dixie who say they are “Irish” are from Ulster, and —as they will slowly come to see— the “Irish” (people like Biden) see them (the oldest Americans) as merely the cause of the ‘troubles.’
No one would have known—- but the Europeans brought their politics to the Americans.
Slowly, the more Generational people are being FORCED to “wake up,” and realize that the others have not been playing as “americans,” but are fighting for their own ethnic and religious groups, and for their “home countries.”
The rural Generational Southerner (dating before the WBTS) is the most maligned— he is southern, he is often GERMAN, he is “protestant,” (not what he calls himself, btw but someone else’s name), he is Ulster/ NORTHERN “Irish” (scots), Scots.
Propaganda is against every group he is a part of.
(And people ask that I be banned for pointing out this obvious reality on the behalf of this silenced “dispossessed majority”—now a minority)
DixieGirl,
I have always viewed anti-Catholicism as more of a Yankee trait than a Southron one. Don’t forget that some of the oldest families in Dixie are Catholic. Southrons are traditionally Episcopalians. Evangelism came to us from the Yankees. I think what we need in the future is a national (non-Roman) Catholicism, much like our antebellum Episcopalianism but unconnected to Anglicanism and with a more High Church style.
I do agree that the Roman Catholic church is hopelessly corrupt (at least since Vatican II), that it works against Dixie’s interests, and that most of our Yankee colonists are Catholic.
Re: very few Italians in Dixie:
Dixiegirl, when I was young there was not even one pizza shop (or Chinese restaurant) in this area, Italian food was not served in local public school cafeterias, and the Italians here (who had been invited over to work in textile mills started by ____ ) and they lived mostly in one community — and along with a very few Portuguese (who had been brought over for cheap labour in another local industry) they were only “Latins” in the county — and there was only one black family in the county. There were MANY Catholic Irish and Orthodox Slavs here though, besides the settler population of Protestant Germans, English and Welsh (this state distinguished by the largest Welsh-descent population).
Most of the invaders from South of us are Catholic, and that’s why the church will never be on our side
Great post Dixiegirl and Long Live Dixie
I should have written: settler population of Protestant Germans, English, Ulsters and Welsh.
Stonelifter, thanks for the link you shared above on the Pope’s outreach to the Anti-Christians, and I agree the Romans will never be on our side.
The pope comes from a suitably fascist country. The Junta didnt fuck around with their liberals. Just vanished them.
The local Italian community (mostly poor southern Italians brought in by Jews to work in their clothing factories) set an example of ethnic cohesion: nearly 100% Italian ownership of homes and businesses, marrying among themselves, even driving Italian-manufactured automobiles from their Fiat dealership. Leading up to the Second World War they held public rallies and celebrations for Mussolini. After the war they spread out and mixed with other groups, especially the Irish.
“The pope comes from a suitably fascist country.”
Suitable? Fascism doesn’t suit a freedom-loving people. “”Let slaves adore and love a despotism. It is the part of freemen to detest and to resist it.”
http://barnhardt.biz/index.cfm
Suitable for Catholicism…
From the article Stonelifter referenced: “Benedict’s first official act as pope was a letter to Rome’s Jewish community and he became the second pope in history, after John Paul, to enter a synagogue.”
I have no issues with Italians for being Italian. Same for any White ethic group but that does not mean large numbers of them should be living among other groups. Immigration should be very limited even among Whites.
It’s an interesting experience to deal with national governments with sane immigration laws.