Blood and Soil: A Southern White Nationalist Perspective

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Matthew Heimbach has a new essay on religion and other important issues:

“This past weekend I shared a hotel room with a member of the League, he was a National Socialist and a folk religionist. While his political and religious views were not mine and far from most within the League, I was intrigued. We discussed politics, religion, and a future for our people, and the funny thing was, we agreed on the most important points. At the end of the day, I want my children to go to white schools, I want to see the symbols of my folk flying in the breeze over the courthouse and post office, I want to be able to worship my God and my faith without fear of government tyrants or communist subversion, and most importantly, I want my race to survive.”

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  1. I like Heimbach’s use of the term “Rainbow Confederate”. I’m glad that label has caught on; after all most Rainbow Confederates probably would favor an independent South where sodomite pride parades are still legal.

  2. Heimbach is right there is no reason for SNism to fight with northwest front or other species of WNism. I love his advocacy of an all white South and rejection of the multi-racial caste concept. He’s also probably right about the virulently anti-Christian pagans on the fringe. Some of them may very well be trolls spreading divide and rule with no real interest in pagan perspectives.

  3. A Southern ethnostate could be created along the lines of Israel with exclusively White zones of settlement expanding over the course of several generations combined with a policy of encouraging black emigration.

  4. Israel doesn’t have legally fixed borders with the Palestinian Occupied Territories or the Palestinian Authority-it’s all a “work in progress.”

  5. “most Rainbow Confederates probably would favor an independent South where sodomite pride parades are still legal”

    I knew it was going to be secular.

    “A Southern ethnostate could be created along the lines of Israel”

    With the assistance of Israelis and southern Talmudists? Will you be minting a Judah coin or dollar bill, as well as a Robert E. Lee? The Global Security Administration will approve such plans.

  6. “exclusively White zones of settlement expanding…combined with a policy of encouraging black emigration”

    Where will the Gaza Strip (main concentration camp) be located, for those who won’t leave?

    I thought the Africans could remain in place because they would be “easily controlled” (as in “they were never a problem for us”) and they might even prove useful again, for some purposes, if only northern white meddling were stopped.

    • The 1901 Alabama constitution and the mass exodus that followed shows how easily the negro could be put in his place without Northern interference.

      I assume everyone here has seen the map of how Israel was created out of Palestine. There was a steady expansion of the Jewish settlements. The Palestinians were pushed back into smaller and smaller enclaves over time.

      Dixie is a huge country. There is no reason why we can’t create South African-style bantustans on a county basis. There is plenty of room in Dixie for Whites to create a thriving ethnostate.

  7. Interesting Essay, lots of words, but a lack of substance from Mr. Heimbach who has stated that “Jews are my brothers”. Perhaps Mr. Heimbach has not matured enough to realize that behind every attack, subversion, infection and undermining of Western Christian Civilization is the hand of the Jew, whether it be in he media in Hollywood or the corruption of our political and legal institutions to of course our education systems. Then of course is the infection of our religion as demonstrated today by the phenomena of the Zionist-Christian, Christians who worship Jews/Israel and are willing to burn the Quoran while ignoring what is written in the Talmud about Christ and the Virgin Mary. Why won’t today’s Christians confront filth in Hollywood, its simple, for to do so would mean to confront the Jew and that conflicts with their “Jew-Worship” programing post 1965.

    One cannot be for saving Western Christian Civilization and be “a Brother of the Jew”.

  8. This love of Jews here has gotten out of hand.

    The Jews would be the first group to oppose any secession. All Jews would oppose it for the simple fact that it is based in White solidarity and it stands for White interests.

    The south, if it were ever even close to succeeding, would be globally demonized by global JEWRY.

    The south would be enemy number one for Jews world wide, because if Whites in the south can have a White homeland, why can’t Whites in Europe have one too?

    The Jews would see the potential of this threat.

    And don’t give me the vs about Jews can’t do anything to thwart your attempts, they can and will if your movement even gains an inch of ground.

  9. Hey Lew – this is kind of off topic – but you recently posted a quote from dear Adolf, re: the way Jews argue, and change the topic, etc. I can NOT find this quote anywhere online. I am Jew baiting, elsewhere, and the quote would be immensely helpful, if you have it.

    Thanks!

  10. It is still maintained that bringing them here in the first place was a good idea at the time, was not immoral, and created immense wealth. Now we are to consider the “Israeli” model, while the main harvest of the evil “seed” sown centuries ago may yet lie ahead. “Because the sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the children of men is fully set in them to do evil.”

    • If it were not for the existence of the Union, the negro would have been dealt with a long time ago. Slavery is the only system in which the negro has ever been an asset to the progress of civilization.

      The problem was not the negro or slavery. It was squarely the leveling spirit of anti-slavery, the roots of which can be traced back to Quaker and Puritan egalitarianism, which soon mutated into abolition and a thousand other crazy utopian causes from civil rights to feminism to “marriage equality” in its latest incarnation.

      The negro by himself could have never elected a negro president or defeated the Klan and the Council or installed himself as our ruler in the South’s major cities. No, the only thing that has made that possible is his Jewish and Yankee allies in the Northern states.

  11. The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn’t help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn’t help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn’t remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

    Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

    I didn’t know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

    Mein Kampf, Chapter 2, “Years of Study and Suffering in Vienna”

    http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

  12. “Slavery is the only system in which the negro has been an asset to the progress of civilization.”

    – 1.) The negro is never an “asset”. He is a bio-weapon on a timed fuse. And 2.) any arrangement where the physical presence of niggers is necessary for economic prosperity and racial identity, is an obscenity and doesn’t deserve to be called a civilization.

    “The problem was not the negro or slavery.”

    – That’s right. It was both.

  13. Yankees will be the least of your worries once the Mexicans begin to colonize the south. Mexicans love that nasty weather down there too.

  14. Lew, yup, he was the Great One, alright. What the Jew really should have done, of course, is take out a revolver, hand it to the German, and tell him, “I give up. You win. Do it: Kill me now.”

    If the point is lost on you it’s that when you fail to give people a reasonable ‘out,’ don’t be surprised if they fight you to the bitter end.

    There’s nothing wrong with critiquing the Jewish power structure. But the point should be “What’s good for the Jews is good for the gander.” Not a thoroughly unreasonable “Juda Verrecke!”

  15. “It was squarely the leveling spirit of anti-slavery, the roots of which can be traced back to Quaker and Puritan egalitarianism”

    Actually, the anti-slavery spirit traces back to this famous line (although the author fell short of observing it in his own life):

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.”

    • Enlightenment liberalism was a far more powerful influence on French abolition than the American and British abolitionist movement.

      In Britain and America, Quakers, Congregationalists, and evangelical Christians were squarely in the vanguard of abolition. The first abolitionist movement in America fizzled out when Jefferson was president. The second was caused by the Second Great Awakening in the Burnt Over District in the North.

  16. If that is the case, then maybe Southern whites in 1860 should have freed the slaves and created those bantustans instead of waging a war to protect slavery. Imagine how many lives would have been saved then.

  17. You don’t think the actions of elite Jewry post-WW2 confirm the basic truth of his allegations against the Jews? They were doing to Germany what they’re doing to us. Jews don’t stop unless you make them. Whites will either stop them, or the white race will cease to exist. Their plan during AHs time was to turn Germany into an abattoir.

  18. Lew:

    One-third of the entire world Jewish population was murdered during World War II, and you are blaming them? Have you ever considered the idea that maybe, just maybe, the Jews’ experience of persecution in Europe, culminating with the Holocaust, shaped their belief in equal rights?

  19. “Enlightenment liberalism was a far more powerful influence on French abolition than the American and British abolitionist movement.”

    The American Revolution, the principles of which were based on Enlightenment liberalism, created the first abolitionist movement which killed slavery in the North. Every Northern state either completely abolished slavery or passed gradual abolition laws within a quarter century after the Revolution. This movement, combined with the Second Great Awakening, gave rise to the second abolitionist movement.

  20. 1000 L.O.S conferences + 1000 O.D. essays + 1000 May Day counter-protests + 1000 Heimbach’s aren’t worth as much to the future of our people as raising 1 proud white child. If you’re not on gov’t assistance yet, you don’t have enough children.

  21. You don’t think the actions of elite Jewry post-WW2 confirm the basic truth of his allegations against the Jews? They were doing to Germany what they’re doing to us. Jews don’t stop unless you make them. Whites will either stop them, or the white race will cease to exist. Their plan during AHs time was to turn Germany into an abattoir.

    There’s an unavoidable ‘chicken and egg’ aspect to it all. Does the Jew create the Nazi or the Nazi the Jew?

    I don’t think it’s accurate to say the Jews were doing to Germans exactly what they have done to Americans. Their activity in Germany in the early 20th century was considerably muted in comparison. Much of their bullshit post-WWII relates directly to their experiences during that war.

    There was certainly a conflict of interests in Germany, but I don’t believe it would have been impossible to resolve that conflict mutually beneficially, or at least in a way that didn’t imperil the vital interests of either group. The problem is that doing so was never set as an objective, by either side. If they didn’t aim for that target it’s not surprising they didn’t hit it. This of course holds true for nationalists all across the Europe in those days.

    EC,

    Jews in WWII were interned in camps, but allegations of ‘gassings’ are most likely fraudulent, the stuff of politically useful Jewish and Communist myth. It’s perplexing to think we could have all been sold such a huge whopper but rational investigation into gassings claims indicates that’s very likely to be the case. I’m confident that anyone who is willing to be rationally persuaded and who examines the evidence will come away as convinced that I am that one would have to be nigh on insane in order to believe, fervently and aggressively, that gassings indeed took place. One might still hold out that, despite the weight of evidence against them, gassings may still have occurred and attempt to argue the case, but it would be ridiculous to believe in their occurrence to the point of cursing, beating and jailing people for being skeptical.

  22. Slavery existed in the North, but the Northern colonies like Mexico were not slave societies like the Southern and Caribbean colonies. Enlightenment liberalism also existed in the South, but it didn’t inspire the abolition of slavery here. Even Jefferson himself argued for the dispersion of slaves during the Missouri crisis.

    The first abolitionist movement was a failure. Racial attitudes hardened and abolitionism collapsed under Jefferson. The French under Napoleon also retreated from abolition and restored slavery in their colonies.

    The second abolitionist movement was based in Britain and it was rooted in evangelical Christianity and Quaker egalitarianism. In the Northeast, it was rooted in the religious fervor of the Second Great Awakening.

  23. Because I’ve examined the arguments and evidence put forward by exterminationists (those who claim gassings occurred) and revisionists (those who claim they didn’t) and found the latter much more convincing. You can do the same.

  24. Are our symbols “racist?” Yes.

    Are they calling for a whites only society? Yes.

    Are they treasonous to the Empire and their globalist masters? Yes.

    I agree that we should be defiant, proud and never fall prey to their faux moralistic shaming, however we also shouldn’t just blindly accept whatever they say against us. Racist has a very negative connotation, which is completely fabricated, but it has a powerful resonance in America and abroad. It’s like saying, “yes, I’m pathological.” We shouldn’t play into their trap or allow them to control the conversation. We define ourselves, they do not. We are racialists, racial and cultural preservationists, or whatever positive label you like.

  25. re: Rainbow Confederate

    It’s a contradiction in terms, nonsensical.

    Those type of people lack the courage of their convictions, they’re halfhearted, often transplants and not really Southerners or infiltrators/Judas goats.

  26. Does the Jew create the Nazi or the Nazi the Jew?

    The German and the Jew are just different kinds of barbarians. Erich Ludendorff is a perfect example, he was a Prussian Odinist that wanted to literally destroy Europe.

  27. Dixie is a huge country. There is no reason why we can’t create South African-style bantustans on a county basis. There is plenty of room in Dixie for Whites to create a thriving ethnostate.

    Similar to the Amerindian reservations we created in the past. Like with Bantustans in South Africa, these were viewed as their native homelands. American blacks have no native rights here, this is not their homeland, thus it has no relevance.

    It would be a mistake to allow them to stay in sovereign partitions, right next to us. That’s like living next door to someone who wants to murder you. Strategically it’s a mistake.

    They will have another homeland, whatever states are part of the new mongrel, liberal union, they can go there and what better justice than to have all of those liberal Whites living with criminal blacks that hate their guts. Enjoy yourselves!

  28. Does the Jew create the Nazi or the Nazi the Jew?

    Considering that Jews were initially allowed in to White countries and later expelled, it’s obvious. The predatory Jew creates the animosity. Judea, international Jewry declared war on Germany first. ‘The Jew cries out as he strikes you.”

  29. “American blacks have no native rights here, this is not their homeland, thus it has no relevance.”

    Blacks have been in America (in particular Dixie) longer than the ancestors of most whites. They were critical in building the infrastructure of the South, particularly the Deep South. In fact, on the eve of the Civil War, they provided half of the South’s wealth. If all that does not make Dixie their homeland, then what does?

  30. Considering that Jews were initially allowed in to White countries and later expelled, it’s obvious

    Germans have been expelled from most white countries, the difference being they were only sometimes allowed in.

  31. Hunter, I understand the new “World War Z” movie promotes the Israeli model you keep mentioning.

    “Slavery is the only system in which the negro has ever been an asset to the progress of civilization. The problem was not the negro or slavery. It was squarely the leveling spirit of anti-slavery”

    Slaves rebel eventually, even Chinese ones have “the leveling spirit” in them: http://news.yahoo.com/us-factory-boss-held-hostage-workers-beijing-074855847.html

    Irish slaves rebelled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6_gvxlWTQ&feature=relmfu

    But a White man imagines slaves love slavery:

    Massa make de darkeys love him,
    Cayse he was so kind;
    Now dey sadly weep above him,
    Mourning cayse he leave dem behind.
    I cannot work before to-morrow, 25
    Cayse de tear-drop flow;
    I try to drive away my sorrow,
    Pickin’ on de old banjo.
    Down in de corn-field
    Hear dat mournful sound: 30
    All de darkeys am a-weeping,—
    Massa’s in de cold, cold ground.

  32. Blacks have been in America (in particular Dixie) longer than the ancestors of most whites. They were critical in building the infrastructure of the South, particularly the Deep South. In fact, on the eve of the Civil War, they provided half of the South’s wealth. If all that does not make Dixie their homeland, then what does?

    The main thrust of racialist critiques is that a multiracial society is unworkable and that it eventually and ineluctably exacts from whites (but not only whites) the ultimate cost, that of racial existence itself. Racialists therefore seek alternatives to multiracialism. This necessarily requires subordinating ‘traditional’ concerns such as ‘rightful ownership’ of territory to racial concerns. Traditional concerns are not thereby completely abandoned, but they are forced take a back seat to racial concerns. Thus although blacks cannot fairly be faulted for identifying with southern territory, white racial concerns require that blacks’ territorial ambitions must be subordinated to white racial survival. In any case, although blacks have lived in the south for longer than many whites have lived in N. America, they cannot, as a group, be said to have lived in the south longer than most southerners.

    As for blacks’ economic contributions, it is patently absurd to describe them as ‘critical.’ Numerous white societies have created similar levels of wealth as white southerners without any contribution from blacks whatsoever, while no black societies anywhere on earth have created levels of wealth even approaching those of the southern US – which is one what would expect to see if blacks’ contributions to the south were indeed ‘critical.’ Moreover, while the argument may be advanced that whites owe blacks, rather than contest it, it’s sufficient to point out that surely anything whites owe blacks has by now been repaid many times over; and any honest accounting would more likely leave blacks owing whites.

  33. “Germans have been expelled from most white countries, the difference being they were only sometimes allowed in.”

    German whites (except SOUTHERN Germans) are naturally evil or deranged, then, as are NORTHERN whites, especially the PURITAN northern whites who came from a deranged German-infected area of eastern Britain?

  34. Southern nationalism is simply one form of white nationalism . . .

    No – Southron nationalism and white nationalism are fundamentally incompatible with each other. Southron nationalism’s first premise is that Southrons are a nation. White nationalism’s first premise is that whites are a nation.

    White nationalism shows itself to be against our interests by the fact that most white nationalists wish one of two things: 1) To include Dixie in their international white state, 0r 2) To give Dixie to the Negroes. White nationalists who favour option 1 are almost universal in their support for the continued Yankee colonisation of Dixie on the grounds that it increases (no matter how temporarily) Dixie’s white population. And practically all types of white nationalists are hostile to expressions of Southron distinctiveness and Southron independence since those things conflict with their dream of white unity. White nationalism = Yankee imperialism.

    Southron nationalism is a real organic folk movement while white nationalism is a dreamt-up utopia created by rootless intellectuals. We definitely need an increase in racialism within SN circles, but we have our own racialist traditions to draw on. Let’s leave white nationalism to the Yankees and the dreamers.

  35. Mosin,

    I stated a fact that you absurdly reduced to some emotional strawman.

    No – Southron nationalism and white nationalism are fundamentally incompatible with each other. Southron nationalism’s first premise is that Southrons are a nation. White nationalism’s first premise is that whites are a nation.

    LLD is 100% correct. Heimbach is playing to the wrong crowd… He’s still a great guy though and I’d like to get out to one of these conferences and chat/party with him. I wish him the best.

  36. “One-third of the entire world Jewish population was murdered during World War II, and you are blaming them? Have you ever considered the idea that maybe, just maybe, the Jews’ experience of persecution in Europe, culminating with the Holocaust, shaped their belief in equal rights?”

    If it were true that they are so passionate about equal rights for all then why do they treat the Palestinians the way they do? They are concerned about equal rights only when it affects the homelands of others, not theirs.

  37. It is the anti-white jews that concern me. Take that guy who bribed the old Sierra Club (talk about proto SWPL the SC was it), so for 100 million dollars he could socially engineer a genocide. He is an anti-white jew and needs to start paying financial compensation for his crimes (yeah I know, fat chance of that).

  38. Hunter says,

    “…The problem was not the negro or slavery. It was squarely the leveling spirit of anti-slavery, the roots of which can be traced back to Quaker and Puritan egalitarianism…”

    That’s definitely the line taught in the public schools, the quaker-puritan-wasp- (ect, etch) blaming game.

    What is the point of going on, pointing fingers at the white people you profess to care about? Feeding the endless rhetoric against them?

    It can make readers wonder what’s in it for you (or others), especially since so MANY speaking for the “South” do not seem to have antebellum history in the south, confederate ancestors, not really, and define the south WRONGLY only in terms of race issues. (In other words, seem mostly to want to appropriate southern lives, history, symbols, etc, just for their own agenda, without any real regard for the southern peoples).

    To parse the southern people out as simply “anti-black” is more what the children of carpetbaggers would do—- it’s what they were taught in their mama’s hollywood movies.

    Same with ragging on puritans and quakers.

    What MOSTLY separates the southern people— (at least in the upper south), i.e., southern wasps—- is their very different sense of family, which really means extended kinship origins and networks, and adds up to a whole sensibility. Not being anti-black, the way the “southern” groups often have it.

    Puritans and quakers are not the problem. And definitively finding some SUPPOSED “origin” of the problem (in other words justifying your own position, b/c that’s all that ever is) will never change a thing.

    Blaming people from 200 years ago—- is about the present, not the past.

  39. Big Money decided (for various reasons) it doesn’t want to play with that form of slavery any longer. It used whoever it could to get that done. Now, it’s doing other things. So let’s move on.

  40. I don’t understand why so many WN’s want to be enthralled with Hitler and Nazism. They’re dead ends. One, the Nazi party was started by a bunch of sodomites, and they were in the party long after “The Night Of The Long Knives”. See “The Pink Swastika” for overwhelming proof of this charge. Two, it was also steeped in rank occultism. No sincere committed Southron Christian (or even a Northern one for that matter!) would want this kind of garbage. Three, the Nazi’s and the Zionists collaborated with each other during the 30’a and the 40’s. Why should I (or any other Southron nationalist) trust a so-called “white organization” that collaborated with our long time enemies? Fourth, Hitler was a Crypto-Jew. DNA samples taken from one of Hitler’s American grand-nephews, and some of his known European relatives show Jewish and North African YDNA. Hitler surely knew he was Jewish in ancestry, because he had to pay big sums of money to his nephew Patrick to keep him quite about it. So, I ask again, why be enthralled by this nonsense? Southron nationalism doesn’t need the albatross of Nazism around its neck. We have our own thing going.

  41. The lesson from “World War Z” against compromising the Israeli model: The WALLS completely shielded Israel, unlike any other nation in the world, but when some Palestinians were admitted for humanitarian reasons, the sound of the singing while they waved both Israeli and Palestinian flags is what drew in the Zombie hordes to swarm over the barriers.

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