Avoiding Persecution as a Racist

July 20, 2013 Jaye Ryan Uncategorized 124

Most of the Alternative Right, racial realist, Southern Nationalist “movement” is lamenting the defection of Derek Black, son of Don Black of Stormfront and responsible Alabama Klan fame. It appears the Southern Poverty Law Center (Southern $ Billionaire Outlaw Center) has infiltrated an open White Nationalist group/family and caused great harm to our just cause.

Here’s a commentary by WN activist Bob Miles on this subject – he argues that we should try to protect our privacy as much as possible to avoid harassment and open persecution – we live under a brutal alien occupation that we now call:

BRA

Take Off the Hood … Scream Our Foes!
Take Off the Hood … Scream Our Foes!
by Robert E. Miles, Pastor, Mountain Church

Take off the hoods! scream the foes. “Come out into the open if you are not ashamed of what you believe in” is the cry of the liberal, the do-gooder and the federal traitors. What they are really saying is “Come out and let us get a better shot at you!” … and they mean just that! Well, kinsmen, let us resolve any questions or doubts which you may have about that viper emanating hiss.
The word “invisible” in “Invisible Empire” means just that. It describes the condition of the Racial Resistance. It describes the manner in which that Resistance is intended to operate. It describes the type of weapons which that Resistance is to be equipped with in this coming era. Secrecy may not be fully possible in this electronic age but privacy, a degree of secrecy, is quite possible. Secrecy is what bedeviled the federal tyrants during the period of the First Era of the Order, that courageous Ku Klux Klan. Secrecy is what enables the few to confuse, confound and to conquer the many. It was the ability of the stalwart bands of individuals, surrounded on all sides by congoids and Washington-directed satraps and local sellouts, to appear, to disappear and to re-appear, that gave our South and our White Race its victory. It was the psychological warfare and innovation of the “now you see them, now you don’t” type of cavalry tactics that enabled the Klan to terrify the foe and divide him up into easily digestible morsels. It was the inability of the local traitors, as prevalent then as now, to definitely identify who the masked rider was or where he came from. And the masked rider in the coming Fifth Era of the Klan will not be riding a horse called Silver, nor integrating with any Indians called “Tonto”. Yet, he will fight for justice, for what is right, and for the rights of the white minority in both the East and the West, the North and the South. Yes, you had better believe it. He will be riding. It will be with a thunder of hooves, and a hearty “Ku Klux Klan” ringing out through the night, that he will herald in the Fifth Era of this Ancient and Honorable Society, this Astral Order called the Ku Klux Klan!
The television era of the Klan, the Fourth Era, is dying and passing into history. It has served us well. But its age is over. Its duty has been done. We now enter the Fifth Era. There are four seasons to the year, not five. Yet, when we enter the fifth season, are we not entering the first all over again? Shall it not be so with the eras of the Invisible Empire also? Invisibility is a weapon. It is a terrific weapon. It is our weapon. It is the characteristic of the Order. It was the reason why the Order gained political power in the First Era. It does work. It can work. It shall work again.
Those who are the spokesmen, the public lecturers and the open contacts for the Order, cannot become invisible. They accept the limitations and the burdens which such entails. They are lightning rods which the foes’ fury falls upon in times of storm. Yet, they have a responsibility to safeguard those who are private, secret or invisible. Just as the lightning rod protects the ones inside the house, so must these human periscopes protect the ones who form the grand body of the Order. But let none confuse the roles! From here on in, the bulk of the membership must be secret! And that takes work. It takes planning and effort on the part of leaders, at all levels. If the Order is to again gain political power, it must regain the use of that tool which gave it its greatest victory.
So, don’t let the taunts of the foe cause you to raise your head above the edge of the trenches so that he can get a better sniper shot at you. Understand your role. Understand that we are in enemy occupied territory. No guerrilla force wears parade uniforms in battle. No special forces units wear medals into combat. No covert army ever succeeded where it let the foe chose the time of battle, the territory on which to fight, nor the manner in which to fight. We are the fog, the First of God! Let us again begin to plan, to train and to act as such in deadly seriousness. For, if we do not, we shall be quite dead, seriously!

50 Comments

  1. More of the same writes:

    Have you ever checked out Bob Whitaker’s website? You’ll get a lot of answers there.

    Jack responds:

    Please include the URL of good web sites. What’s Bob Whitaker’s?

  2. Use cognitive dissonance in your favor as much as possible. Example: wear a Che shirt while denouncing Obama for being a white hating racist.

  3. “What do pro-whites as you understand that term support for white folks that WNsts don’t and vice versa?”

    To me a white nationalist is a white man whose racial politics start and end with racial hatred. Typically, ‘pro-white’ is just a more palatable, pragmatic way of arguing for the same ends. Eg “I’m pro-white. The system we live under is anti-white and I don’t like it, so I have no choice but to be pro-white.” Scratch under the surface and you’ll find a WN, but this way of putting across the point is much more palatable.

    Nevertheless, based on observation, I’m willing to grant that pro-whites tend to differ somewhat. Even if they’re merely WNs in sheep’s clothing they demonstrate an ability to control their impulses and stay on a message that gives a wide berth to racial hatred.

    The kinds of policies that WNs and pro-whites would tend to support are much the same. The only real difference of any note is that with pro-whites it is possible to foresee a ‘final settlement’ of the racial issue that stops well short of the all out race-war and endless racial expansionism that WNs who “just want to preserve their race” (uh-huh) tend to hanker for. There’s a natural divide between whites who would be content with the downfall of anti-whitism and the erection of social structures supporting white preservation and WNs who would not.

  4. “Use cognitive dissonance in your favor as much as possible. Example: wear a Che shirt while denouncing Obama for being a white hating racist.”

    Awesome 🙂

  5. Re TATTOOS:

    I got a laugh at the sub-thread here on Tattoos.

    I stopped getting Tattoos when the hipster-faggots started getting them. They made it mainstream and ruined it, so I keep mine covered now. It’s sad really. I have no idea how it went so mainstream. I think they need to make tattoos hurt really, really badly again like in the old days, that will put an end to it.

  7. IMO, it’s the potential convert judged to have sense enough to understand the nationalist side who you don’t want to hit too heavily with the Jooz , or certainly their Holocaust religion, right off the bat. It’s as taboo in the west to criticize Jews as it is to criticize Muhammad in Mecca and every dummy knows that. So it’s better to talk about how whites face losing their rights and freedoms, at least to start. Anybody who takes an interest will eventually learn of the Jewish role, but scaring people off before they even get a toe in the water should be avoided.

    So the people who are concerned with too much Jooz are, in my opinion, not trying to cover for Jews but are trying to avoid scaring off initiates.

    BTW, some say that David Duke (for one) dwells too much on the topic, and that may be true but I put David in a different category as a sort of antibody to the B’nai B’rith’s and the SPLCs of the world. As those groups fixate on their narrow interests, David Duke also hones in on a more narrow field of interest, albeit an important one, and one that just about everybody else is afraid to talk about. So David is a bit of a niche broadcaster, although if by some miracle FOX News told David to take over Bill O’Reilly’s time slot for a month, I would hope Dave would expand his repertoire. He is still one of the better communicators on our side.

  8. Lorraine/WhiteMom wrote:

    “Jews are part of the problem. Not all of it, but a big part because they see themselves as Jews first and not Americans.”

    Would everything be alright if they DID see themselves as Americans? Perhaps many of them already do consider themselves Americans rather than Jews.

    “Jews are behind porn, an industry used to defile white women and destroy our families and Christianity. Whites need to recognize these things and separate from Jews and Judaism completely.”

    Christianity must separate from, not cooperate with or adapt to Antichristianity.

  10. Silver says:
    July 21, 2013 at 8:40 pm

    “To me a white nationalist is a white man whose racial politics start and end with racial hatred.”

    This is true for some, but for a large number no. The big problem WN has is it is misnamed. WN discussions cover so many topics, other than what is Pro White, that Pro White barely gets a mention. Essentially WN is an ineffective/counterproductive babbling mob and within that babbling mob, are the types you mention.

    Silver says:
    July 21, 2013 at 8:40 pm
    “To me a white nationalist is a white man whose racial politics start and end with racial hatred. Typically, ‘pro-white’ is just a more palatable, pragmatic way of arguing for the same ends. Eg “I’m pro-white.”

    Right now, Whites are held hostage by antiWhitism. Whites are not allowed a free discussion or choice, because anything White is illegal. Pro White in the sense that Bob Whitaker advocates, is for holding back the forces of antiWhitism long enough, that White Genocide can be averted.

  12. Can’t keep a ‘good’ kike out

    Silver is a jew.

    And like all jews, whenever it sees a whigger, it sees a nazi. Then, of course, it is mainly wrong.

    Of course a Real White Man is indeed a Nazi and would of course shoot that jew or that nigger or that mongrel or run them out of the re-organized country, but first the whigger element, which makes up over 90% of the ZOGland must be destroyed, either in the Great Collapse/Great Tribulation or converted to Real White Man.

    Every problem social order can be fixed by eliminating problem piss-pul. And that is why, like Pastor Miles noted, it is counter-productive at best, idiotically dangerous at least, to show your ass before you show ZOGling whigger and mamzer ass-clowns your teeth.

    Hail Victory!!!

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri

  13. TMT — Episode #184 — The Duck, The Duck’s Dog & The Duck’s Dog’s Peckerwood — 21 July 13
    Time: July 21, 2013 9:30 PM EST/8:30 PM CST

    http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=111132&cmd=tc

    Due to the vagaries of Talksjew, Thursday night’s show couldn’t start. For that I blame the Sephardic jew melungeon Jeromy Visser for getting me IP banned so I have to use a TOR browser and Talksjew for running a sorta crappy free podcasting service. But jewromy mostly, the red-nigger kikeian spawn of D-g.

    Anyway, I gotta say that most of the Whigger Nutsionalists, especially the ones who are Real Live Whiggers and not jews like Alex Linder, Eli James, Bill Finck or mongrels like Jeromy Visser, Dan Johns, Bryan Reo/SwordBrethren, or ZOGbots like James Wickstrom and MoGulett, are altogether ass-clowns.

    The Old Resistance — the pre-Waco Resistance — and the Middle Guard — those who have been in the White Nationalist or Christian Identity Resistance for over a decade, know all about David Duck (The Duck) and Don Black (the Duck’s Dog) and Chloe Black (The Duck’s Ex-Bitch and the Duck’s Dog’s current bitch). And thus none of them tend to obsess over the antics of Derek Black (The Duck’s Dog’s Peckerwood).

    The Duck’s ability to extract the utmost in whiggaz-mites and geezergelt and extract every single ZOGbuk as oxygen and to coonvert it to his own use is legendary. That and cadging pussy from the mothers, wives, sisters, daughters and any other thing possessing a pussy from the dolts who go off to see the “Whizzard of Ahz” of Whigger Nutsionalist. The Duck will pinch every single loose penny or pussy that it can get itz fingers or pecker on or into. No shit.

    Don Black is the Duck’s Dog. He took the rap for the Duck’s schemes and went to prison. Eventually, like the gut-sick guido-kikenweasel with Crohns/jew ass-GAIDS Alex Linder did five years or so later, intellectual work which was on a web page was coonverted to a v-bulletin forum full of Whigger Nutsionalist fuktards yapping and cavorting under the thumb of the Duck and the Duck’s Dog and the Duck’s Dog’s sub-moderatard dogs like Jack Poot, Lycia, Hansky, et. al.

    Now the Duck has other Dogs who signed the jew Orleans Protocol to all try to get a cut of the Duck’s and the Duck’s Dog’s action as $permFart is the Walmart of Waycism. Critters like Paul Fromm, who whines like a pussy about censorship, especially in Kanaduh, yet for some reason was cheering Ol’ Niggerlips Bryan Reo / SwordBrethren / SoredMamzer on for taking down my web page in Montreal Frog Canuckistan. These lying Whigger Fuktards and Feebs have no sense or any honor.

    Let’s understand something: There is no use for any of the ‘intellectual’ forums or blogs or web pages except for purposes of “whigger-whimpering” and to get the whupped-up whiggers to turn feral on ZOG/Babylon’s ass and to turn mean and violent and go out and kill something. Starting with their own whiggers, and then up the ZOGling whigger and mamzer ass-clown food chain.

    Now of course “master-[de]bating” can be fun. But there really isn’t any peacefool solution left. At all.

    This weekend I was listening to a Southron ex-whigger say, on all places, the Carolyn Yenta-Yeager show, that the only thing he saw to do was to wait for the chaos to start, then to go out shooting as many of the ZOGlings as possible. Of course that ol biddy Yenta-skank clucked and fussed — following the likes of TraitorGlenn Miller or WhiggerSwill Welass or Rabbi MildSwill Finck-el-sheenie is to be preferred to mere random acts of non-whiggrishness, but really, what else is to be done? There are no real leaders in either White Nationalism or Christian Identity. Only jews and mamzers and whigger ass-clowns running sundry tard corrals.

    If fact, Russ Walker called me up today and said that he thinks I’m right. All that can be done is to morally and mentally enable The Ten Thousand Warlords and let them haet globally and kill locally their problems, and then upon that Great Tribulation let things sort themselves out for the good of the ex-whigger survivors.

    Worry about the peccadillos of the Duck’s Dog’s Peckerwood Derek Black? Why? So donations to $permFart go down. The Duck and the Duck’s Dog can maybe learn to do something useful while the Duck’s Dog’s Bitch trains up another couple hundred niglets to pretend to be whigger. Why, maybe they can even move out of Palm Beach and into a nice used single-wide in say, Dothan Alabama and find out how the real Whiggaz live.

    Watching the Duck’s Dog’s Peckerwood’s antics makes as much sense for Whiggers as Keeping up with the Kardashians or Here Cums Honey Boo-Boo.

    Hail Victory!!!

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri

  15. Jack Ryan says:

    Sam – ‘Coutney and I criticize David Duke for his 24/7 obsession with THE JEWS, because it’s not effective and is counter productive – confines American White Nationalism to a tiny, powerless group of losers.’

    No, I do not believe it is ineffective. He awakens many people. More people need to know.

    Jack Ryan says: ‘Duke goes as far as defending Muslim terrorists who flood in to White countries and murder our people.’

    That is a lie!

    He does not defend muslims who come into our countries to murder people. That is totally ridiculous. He often speaks against and condemns such practices. He does however, educate the dumbed down ill informed masses the reasons why so many Arabs hate us. We are joined at the hip with Zionists who stole Palestine from it’s inhabitants. Unlike White Americans THEY are like jews in that they do not forgive or forget. They will hate Israel’s sugar daddy Uncle Sam as long as we supply Israel with the finances and weapons to wage war against them.

    We should cut the jewish state loose and let them fight their own battles. We should NOT import any more Arabs and we should stop all foreign aid to the mideast.

    Jack Ryan says: ‘The vicious anti White Jews also support the Muslim immigration invasion of our White countries so David Duke somehow ends up on the same side as nasty Arab, Pakistani Muslim terrorists/rapists and in a strange twist on the side of anti White Jews like NY Senator Charles Schumer.’

    Yes, the jews supported the muslim invasions in our country and Europe, BUT David Duke certainly does not support muslim immigration.

    Jack Ryan says: ‘When David Duke was being effective in the early 1990s and reaching large percentages of mainstream Whites, he wasn’t pushing 24/7 anti Semitic Jew hatred.’

    Anti-Semitic Jewish hatred huh?

    Abe Foxman would approve of your terminology would he not?

  19. The original text (it may change since a BUGSer has just emailed him):

    “Watch this short cartoon and listen to the Hasbara Neocon projection expressed by the British colonial officers. ‘Humanism’ seems to be a pre-text for genocide. Eventually, the indigenous people are destroyed in the name ‘liberal ethics’ and even ‘anti racism.’ It is obviously there to remind us of the Zionist crime in Palestine.

    This anti immigration/anti diversity film deserves attention – it contends that ‘liberal tolerance’ is actually inherently intolerant. This issue is becoming a priority, so it seems.”

  21. WNsm is pro-white by definition. The entire WNst conversation is a giant exercise in trying to identify the good for whites and bring it about.

  22. Sam,

    We’re White Americans, not Arab Muslims, Paki – Turko Mongolian Muslims.

    How about producing videos, articles, commentary that appeals to White Americans, instead of nasty, throat cutting, child rapist NW Muslims?

    David Duke’s propaganda of recent years doesn’t reach the hearts and minds of White Americans.

  23. Lew says:
    July 22, 2013 at 2:41 am
    “WNsm is pro-white by definition. The entire WNst conversation is a giant exercise in trying to identify the good for whites and bring it about”

    WN is NS re-branded and is still fighting the old war with Jews. I don’t want to stand between you two, as you duke it out to the death. I know you both enjoy it so much.

  24. This quote pretty much summed it up for me. Not 100% true about WN, because not all WN are the same, but it has a lot of truth to it.

    http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2013/07/20/white-nationalist-or-pro-white/comment-page-1/#comment-63746

    “In the eyes of normal white people this is how the two terms sound.

    White Nationalist-A fleeting desperate niche group made up of nazis with a different name pasted onto them….Normal whites run in terror from them for two reasons 1. NAZIS DUH 2. They are LOSING, no one likes a loser.

    Pro White- Something different but not reminiscent of the reich, in the current political and racial envrioment MANY whites are frustrated but do NOT KNOW HOW TO ARTICULATE THEIR FRUSTRATIONS without losing everything,pro whites know how to do this. Pro white doesnt “sound” like “white nationalist” we all remember how important SOUND is right?

    While White nationalists discuss the atrocities of amnesty pro whites fight for the survival of our race.”

  25. I’d say speaking out against Jewish aggression against whites is one of many themes in WNsm. WNsts raise consciousness about it. What does your faction do about it? It’s not clear how ignoring Jewish aggression against whites serves white interests. Explain that a little more. Lumping them into an amorphous category called “anti-whites” amounts to dodging the issue.

  26. Jack Ryan says:
    ‘Sam,
    We’re White Americans, not Arab Muslims, Paki – Turko Mongolian Muslims.’

    Yea, so what does that have to do with your false accusations of David Duke.

    You disagree with his stands on issues. Fine, we all have beliefs we are passionate about, but you misrepresented his positions and blatantly lied about him to advance yours.

    That is not honorable.

  29. The argument between using “Pro-White” and “WN” as labels is a BUGS argument which makes sense for BUGS.

    It relates to the other argument in that there shouldn’t be a standard “line” on talking about the Jewish angle. Some people shouldn’t mention it at all. Some people should mention it a little. Some people should mention it a lot. All bases should be covered like a set of stepping stones – no single right answer.

    For a group like BUGS it’s right they don’t mention it at all and avoid labels that can deflect from the consistent message.

    For David Duke it’s right that he talks about it a lot.

    For everyone else, somewhere in the middle.

  30. The term pro-White is, to me, kind of an umbrella term which can include WNs and various Whites who advocate for White interests.

    One thing that I differ with WNs on is that doctrinaire WNs believe that race trumps nationality or ethnic origin. There are some who will denounce ethnonationalists who want to limit mass immigration. The thinking is that anyone White should have the ”right” to immigrate to any other White country. Thus the British and Irish who object to mass Eastern European immigration are wrong for wanting to reject their White brothers. The idea that Whites should be freely admitted to any White country amounts to White multiculturalism, the idea that White countries must be melting pots — as long as all immigrants are White. This would mean for Southern nationalists that any independent Southron nation would have to admit all White people regardless of deep cultural differences and linguistic and religious difference. Anyway a pan-European ”nation”, if established in Europe, would just be another step toward a global order, it seems to me. The only immigration should be in cases such as that of the Boers or other such dire situations.

    Why erase all the White diversity in favor of some kind of all-White melting pot?
    People are not interchangeable. Not even Whites.

  31. Lew says:
    July 22, 2013 at 3:45 am

    “I’d say speaking out against Jewish aggression against whites is one of many themes in WNsm. WNsts raise consciousness about it. What does your faction do about it? It’s not clear how ignoring Jewish aggression against whites serves white interests. Explain that a little more. Lumping them into an amorphous category called “anti-whites” amounts to dodging the issue.”

    The latest example of anti-White aggression is from a White man named Derek Black. He could have left WN honorably by saying nothing, other than he was quitting. Instead he chose to drive a knife into WN. Not only that, he harmed White interests globally.

    He had all the WN facts about Jews, race, crime, etc, and yet he still chose to attack. I know many Whites that harm White interests and they all have their own reasons for doing so. These Whites are not marionettes controlled by others, they know full well the outcome of their actions and choose to do them anyway.

    What Derek did was not Jewish aggression. It was White anti-White aggression.

  32. Lew says:
    July 22, 2013 at 3:45 am

    “I’d say speaking out against Jewish aggression against whites is one of many themes in WNsm. WNsts raise consciousness about it. What does your faction do about it? It’s not clear how ignoring Jewish aggression against whites serves white interests. Explain that a little more. Lumping them into an amorphous category called “anti-whites” amounts to dodging the issue.”

    One last point. Duke and his followers talk about “Jewish Aggression”, but they themselves are very aggressive regarding Jews. If I was a Jew and people like Duke were doing what they are doing, I would feel threatened and would be very aggressive in kind. Its a vicious circle you are in and its going no where good. Yet another reason why I am not WN – I am Pro White. I only advocate for Whites.

  33. @VA
    White Multiculturalism, is how non-White multiculturalism got started in the first place. And yes, there are many unique subgroups of Whites, that would be wiped out by White Multiculturalism, so I don’t like the idea much either.

    I don’t think you need to worry about Southern Nationalists falling under the umbrella of WN, as they are very different groups. Southerners are not socialists for a start and they treasure their blood, history and culture.

  36. One thing that I differ with WNs on is that doctrinaire WNs believe that race trumps nationality or ethnic origin.

    Bash Black and Jews all day, then cry about “subracial infighting.” Laughable.

    Half of these WNs look like Mud themselves.

  37. “doctrinaire WNs believe that race trumps nationality or ethnic origin (…) The thinking is that anyone White should have the ”right” to immigrate to any other White country (…) The idea that Whites should be freely admitted to any White country amounts to White multiculturalism, the idea that White countries must be melting pots — as long as all immigrants are White. This would mean for Southern nationalists that any independent Southron nation would have to admit all White people regardless of deep cultural differences and linguistic and religious difference.”

    I do not agree with that interpretation of White Nationalism! Any White Nationalists who DO think that way should be calling themselves properly: “Pan-Ethnic White Pan-Nationalists”.

    Also: Any white “Ethno Nationalists” who consider another group of Whites (such as “northern” or “Yankee” Whites above the Line, some of whom are of identical Anglo-Celtic heritage) to be their antithesis and the primary source of evil in the world — and who deny there IS such a thing as a “White people” or White race — and who believe multiracial coexistence in a slave-based culture (with themselves as the supremacist elite) is essential to maintain their “sense of identity” — may properly be called: ANTI-White nationalists!

  38. The white population of some parts of the fifty states have already become “Pan-European” or “Pan-White”, and this is not natural or desirable but a reality. Even less natural, and most harmful, as we all know, is the development of PAN-RACIAL population in urban metropolitan areas.

  40. Mosin Nagant: says:
    July 22, 2013 at 4:21 am
    It appears that Jack Ryan dislikes David Duke as much as he dislikes Ron Paul.”

    Jack responds:

    Not true. I am disappointed in David Duke, who is clearly our best public speaker, he’s still great in live interviews. Duke’s Trayvon Martin video is tops.

    My point is that I want mainstream success, not marginalization in a tiny drop out community of loners who can’t communicate with regular Whites, can get or keep a regular job, or have a White family, many/any friends, do the healthy regular things regular Whites do.

    Duke had mainstream success, Ron Paul was actually an elected Congressman from Texas, but this cult of 24/7 Jew obsessed loners doesn’t like mainstream success, they want others to drop out of society like them, anything successful is considered “selling out”.

  41. Pro White Joe,

    That wasn’t my question.

    My question was how do you respond to Jewish aggression specifically not aggression by others.

    Bob Whitaker seems to advocate lying about the issue in return for perceived at tactical benefit.

  42. ” If I was a Jew and people like Duke were doing what they are doing, I would feel threatened and would be very aggressive in kind.”

    That aggression didn’t begin with David Duke, of course. Advocating the most extreme measures for dealing with the Jewish issue goes back a long way. WNs like Lew like always excuse it by saying well if only Jews didn’t act like Jews it wouldn’t be necessary, but probe them a bit and you find that “acting like Jews” need entail no more than merely existing as Jews. So it goes back to what I said: a WN is a white man whose racial politics start and end with racial hatred. The saddest thing is that being so uncompromising avails them of nothing, yet such is their rage and loathing they cannot see this. I would not be surprised at all if history one day remembers you as the race that died because it could not stop hating.

  43. “Bob Whitaker seems to advocate lying about the issue in return for perceived at tactical benefit.”

    Bob Whitaker is simply pointing out that the PC religion leads to White genocide and genocide is against the law. That doesn’t require an idealogy but also any idealogy – WN, Conservative, Liberal etc – muddies that simple message.

  44. Iceman,
    “Bash Black and Jews all day, then cry about “subracial infighting.” Laughable.

    Half of these WNs look like Mud themselves.”

    It doesn’t mean they don’t have racial interests (mud is still thicker than water!) or that they wouldn’t benefit from overturning mass diversity or that taking a stand against anti-white BS is wrong. They just need to stop calling themselves WN. Then a retard like you will have even less to cavil about.

  45. Pro White Joe,

    Opposing Jewish aggression is a form of advocacy for whites, one among MANY ways WNsts do it. The point is to help people understand WHO supports and WHO enforces the genocidalist policies of which you speak, and WHY they do it.

    WHERE do you think the anti-white policies of which you speak come from? The ether?

    For a person who enjoys making fact-free arrogant boasts about the superiority of his approach over WNsm, the substance of your “pro-white” program is pretty thin. You offer no substance, no positive alternative, no theoretical vision for the future, no clearly defined end goal or outcome for your efforts that I can see.

    What SPECIFIC policies and changes do you want to see? It’s not clear, at least not to me.

    The fact that you would say Duke is overly aggressive with Jews is enough to write you off as a serious participant in debate. If you don’t appreciate why he does it, you have a lot to learn.

    The people who use Whitaker’s methods share certain traits. The main ones seem to be passion, good intentions, abysmal ignorance and a mind too simplistic to appreciate it.

  46. Pro White Joe says:
    July 22, 2013 at 8:56 am

    ‘If I was a Jew and people like Duke were doing what they are doing, I would feel threatened and would be very aggressive in kind.’

    Sure, in the same way Al Capone felt threatened by Eliot Ness.

    Except that Duke’s only weapons are words and videos .

    It’s always the naughty gentiles who PROVOKE the p-o-o-o-o-r jews.

    You really don’t have a clue about jewish behavior and history over the past millennia.

    You should watch 10-15 of David’s videos. If you have an open mind you will get a better understanding.

    Silver says: ‘WNs like Lew like always excuse it by saying well if only Jews didn’t act like Jews it wouldn’t be necessary, but probe them a bit and you find that “acting like Jews” need entail no more than merely existing as Jews.’

    Baloney!

    No one would give a shit about the jews existence if they did not act like bleepin’ jews!

  47. And the most important point of all, is the SPLC showed that it really likes WN. They blocked all BUGSer replies and only allowed a WN to speak. So the SPLC think WN are “useful” to their cause.

    http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2013/07/20/white-nationalist-or-pro-white/

    Bob wrote:
    “It is not accidental that the SPLC banned all argument from all of us but me from commenting on its article. It is even less debatable that they WELCOMED a LONG comment from a “white nationalist” who denounced the Mantra.

    No one but me seems to have noticed this, but it doesn’t take a genius to know what it MEANS.”

  48. Silver says:
    July 22, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    “That aggression didn’t begin with David Duke, of course. Advocating the most extreme measures for dealing with the Jewish issue goes back a long way”

    I’m sure there are anti-White Jews that are just as bad and this ethnic war goes back centuries, but I really don’t care, because I am not Jewish and am not WN/NS. So if you two want to fight your little war, don’t let me stand in your way. I have grown up things to do, like fighting antiWhitism.

    If anyone attacks Whites, I will not be reading history books written by intellectuals like Duke and co and discussing where it all started, I will denounce the anti-White right then and there.

  49. Pro White Joe says:
    July 22, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    ‘I’m sure there are anti-White Jews that are just as bad and this ethnic war goes back centuries, but I really don’t care, because I am not Jewish and am not WN/NS.’

    If you are White you should care. But you’d rather hide your head in the sand.

    Pro White Joe says: ‘I have grown up things to do, like fighting antiWhitism.’

    Grown ups like you are are merely fighting the symptoms of the disease not the cause.

    Pro White Joe says: ‘If anyone attacks Whites, I will not be reading history books written by intellectuals … ‘

    Kind of figured that out already.

    Pro White Joe says: If anyone attacks Whites, I will not be reading history books written by intellectuals like Duke and co and discussing where it all started, I will denounce the anti-White right then and there.

    Go get em tiger!

    Make sure to make a video that you can send to David Duke showing him how it’s done.

  50. “No one would give a shit about the jews existence if they did not act like bleepin’ jews!”

    Not if they’d stayed in Israel, no, probably not. But I’m referring to the historical fact that Jews spread into Europe, thus corrupting, at least as WNs see it, Europe’s pristine racial purity. Then they did the same thing to America. This alone is more than WNs can bear. The fact that they “acted like Jews” when they got there is actually secondary.

    Mind you, I’m not suggesting WNs are morally obligated to accept Jews. I’m pointing out that WNs justify extreme responses to the Jewish issue simply because Jews came to exist on what WNs regard as white territory. For me, it’d be one thing if humans universally automatically understood that a territory must – absolutely must – be racially “pure” (however you define it). If that were the case then I could more easily accept that the Jewish presence represented a corruption of what people understood as right and proper. But peoples have moved, mingled and mixed since time immemorial; it’s this that was understood as ‘normal.’ The idea that a territory ought to be made racially pure is a fairly recent innovation. I happen to think it’s a pretty good innovation, in its basics. But surely its history proves how easily it can get out of hand. Learning from the past should urge us to exercise more caution and more patience and to exude greater compassion and generosity. WNs seem to have an impossibly difficult time accepting any of this.

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