Boehner is a gutless coward who opposes our interests. His crying is pathetic, as is the lack of decency in his immediate family. I have absolutely no respect for him as a man, much less a politician.
I just think that tie is kinda niggerish.
If your American chief be a man of ambition and abilities, how easy is it for him to render himself absolute. The army is in his hands, and if he be a man of address, it will be attached to him … Away with your president! We shall have a king: the army will salute him monarch.
Given that an airstrike locks the US into following the calamity of Iraq or the lesser calamity of Libya and that there is nothing you can do to stop it, you ought to vociferously advocate for the Christian population’s interests in the region. It’s your best
option. Define those interests and lobby your reps and Senator.
Approval ratings for this is in the single digits. I’m too busy making calls on immigration. If single digits don’t speak for themselves, then D.C. is hopeless.
One WaPo poll shows a way overinflated 36% support, but with 59% against. In the breakdown, there was not one single age, gender, racial or ideological group that supported it more than opposed it, and most strongly opposed it more than they either strongly or somewhat supported it. The only “bright” spot for the Syria warmongers is that there is that black partisan Democrats are a relatively supporting (but still underwater) demographic, only because Obama is a black Democrat. In the case of maybe 10% of blacks, it’s pure loyalty to black and blue.
Lib Dems are much better than Neo Con Christian Zionists Republicans. I recommend calling lib Dem Sen, Congressmen and say:
“I didn’t vote for this”
Assad looks a bit like a skinny Charles de Gaulle, blue eyes and all that. A great deal of the Syrian Army that I’ve seen so far have Southern European features too. Weak chin though. I’m not surprised the blacks are kinda sorta on board for this operation. How many USAF or USN pilots are darkies anyway? Right?
Jack Ryan
Even the fundamentalist evangelical Christian “standing with Israel” types aren’t on board with this.
How the hell any of this lunacy is supposed to benefit Israel is beyond me. It could well be their death sentence. I’m sure many here will be heart broken if that happens.
countenance says:
September 3, 2013 at 8:56 pm
Jack Ryan
Even the fundamentalist evangelical Christian “standing with Israel” types aren’t on board with this.”
Jack replies:
What are you saying? Prostitutes are not going to go along with some things?
The Israelis enjoy chaos in their neighbour’s household? If the US knocks out the Syrian AAA and Airforce that’s 100 less sorties the Israelis have to concern themselves with. It’s also possible that Syria stripped of radar, SAMs and other counter measures can be discounted when they finally get around to bombing Iranian AAA and airbases.
Jack Ryan writes:
What are you saying? Prostitutes are not going to go along with some things?
I respond:
More like you can only go to the well so often before it runs out of water.
Bonehead Boehner’s aa son-in-law enlist anytime soon. 99 percent of congress kids aren’t enlisted. If they are. Assigned to desk duty.
Vote Republican !!!!! That will solve the problem! HaHaHa. The Military Industrial Complex and or the Jews have total control of the US Military. Nobody in their right mind would get involved in Syria. In reality the US will be supporting the same terrorist organizations they were supposedly fighting against in Iraq and Afghanistan. We should stay in touch with our bought and paid for elected officials and say NO. On the other hand the real solution to totally changing America’s Imperial Foreign Policy would be for American soldiers in mass to refuse deployment in any foreign nation like Syria. Of course the American Empire would turn around and arm Illegal Immigrants and make them America’s new army. So we win either way. Free Dixie NOW !
Brian Pace writes:
“way. Free Dixie NOW !”
Jack responds:
OK, but I note that I and some Latter Day Saintsat the University of Chicago are the only straight White folks in my neighborhood, but at least 99% of my neighbors are against a US military attack on Syria. Can’t say say the same about the confused, Christian Zionists that voted in Lindsey Graham and Newt Gingrich who won the South Carolina GOP presidential primary. Wow! We live in strange times.
Jack, should we immediately accept as gospel truth the establishment’s claims that Assad did in fact use chemical weapons or is there a grace period that such absurd conspiracy theories might be entertained at OD?
What should good white people do with regards to the chemical weapons claims?
The screwballs in DC are living in the past; folks could be called upon to enlist. The far east are well aware of this that U.S can no longer wage a two front war.
What should we do to oppose the US Empire’s massively unpopular plan to attack Syria?
Justin Raimondo:
This is one battle the peace camp can win – but only if you act.
I know many of my readers are skeptical every time I ask them to call their congressional representatives. They may have a point, but I would argue that this time it’s imperative, both morally and politically. Contrary to popular belief, it does have an effect – especially in this particular instance. These people are politicians: they not only want to win reelection, they want to be liked. The prospect of another war is deeply unpopular, and they know it. By hammering this point home, a flurry of calls is bound to register in their minds as a sign to run for cover. They’re already wondering: if this turns out badly, and I’m on the record supporting it, do I really want to go there? Your calls will increase their doubts.
Congress, at the behest of the Israel lobby, passed a series of anti-Syrian resolutions nearly unanimously, and nobody noticed: now the President is handing them the control panel and giving them the option to press the red button. It’s a masterful bit of political jiu-jitsu – and we who want to stop the rush to war must take full advantage of it.
It’s Labor Day weekend as this is being written, and congressional offices will be open and taking calls on Tuesday. That’s the time to call. Remember to be brief, and be polite.
John wrote: “Away with your president! We shall have a king: the army will salute him monarch.”
What? You Talmudic (British) monarchist! Next you’ll be calling for the king to be made a god.
O Obama! Save us!
It doesn’t look like they are listening to the people on this one anyway.
Since most of us here have concluded that America is beyond saving and that the only hope for our future is to carve out a new nation from the rotting carcass of the old, the hubris on Syria should frighten us into redoubling our efforts and also make it easier to pitch our sale to others.
I’m thinking more along the lines of fliers and organizing protests.
“..and that the only hope for our future is to carve out a new nation from the rotting carcass of the old..”
– Oh shut the hell up with that nonsense. You won’t be carving a damn thing. Your “Dixie” is going to be overrun with beaners and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it. You’ll move North to whiter area and keep your mouth shut and live out the remainder of your life.
Meanwhile we need to see that the great white North REMAINS a whiter area, even 100% white in some counties and communities.
“You’ll move North to whiter area and keep your mouth shut and live out the remainder of your life.”
Meanwhile we need to see that the great white North REMAINS a whiter area, even 100% white in some counties and communities.
Here’s a conversation starter, “do you feel like your government cares about your opinion?”
I have written the letters, and made the phone calls, but isn’t it a bit like putting a message in a bottle? I’ve never been to a town hall or had my chance to directly address “representatives”. I’m sure many folks could resonate with that.
Back to the OT: what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?
Hunter Wallace says:
September 3, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Back to the OT: what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?
JR responds:
Well, I took out full page advertisements in the Nashville Tennessean and Chattanooga Times and did talk radio in 1991 when the same Yid,Neo Con, X’tian Zionists did the similar US attack on Iraq -Suddam was “Hitler” you know. I thought I did rather well, but had to compete with Hank Williams Jr. putting out some “bomb Iraq” propaganda song. Sweet reason doesn’t compete very well with Hank Williams Jr., SEC football that sort of thing.
Get in touch with Palmetto Patriot about paid media in Murfreesboro and Shelbyville.
Google search who actually said that. It was Patrick Henry. Talmudic indeed you fraudulent nincompoop.
Hunter Wallace says:
September 3, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Get in touch with Palmetto Patriot about paid media in Murfreesboro and Shelbyville.
JR responds.
Will do.
Contact the Christian Patriarch there. Have him record a video. Have him appeal to the better instincts of the American.
Hunter Wallace says:
‘Back to the OT: what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?’
We can’t do a thing but spin our wheels and watch events unfold.
Yes, as is my custom I phoned my representatives offices and sent e-mails. They do not care what I think.
Most of our politicians are concerned about their futures not ours.
They are beholden to AIPAC and will dance to the tunes played by Klezmer bands.
Interesting article I read today. Remember when we were told it was imperative to dethrone wicked Qaddafi? How did that work out? Disaster for all parties except jews whose goal it is to destabilize nations and wreak havoc.
Special report: We all thought Libya had moved on – it has, but into lawlessness and ruin
Libya has plunged unnoticed into its worst political and economic crisis since the defeat of Gaddafi
little under two years ago, Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, urged British businessmen to begin “packing their suitcases” and to fly to Libya to share in the reconstruction of the country and exploit an anticipated boom in natural resources.
Yet now Libya has almost entirely stopped producing oil as the government loses control of much of the country to militia fighters.
Mutinying security men have taken over oil ports on the Mediterranean and are seeking to sell crude oil on the black market. Ali Zeidan, Libya’s Prime Minister, has threatened to “bomb from the air and the sea” any oil tanker trying to pick up the illicit oil from the oil terminal guards, who are mostly former rebels who overthrew Muammar Gaddafi and have been on strike over low pay and alleged government corruption since July.
As world attention focused on the coup in Egypt and the poison gas attack in Syria over the past two months, Libya has plunged unnoticed into its worst political and economic crisis since the defeat of Gaddafi two years ago. Government authority is disintegrating in all parts of the country putting in doubt claims by American, British and French politicians that Nato’s military action in Libya in 2011 was an outstanding example of a successful foreign military intervention which should be repeated in Syria.
In an escalating crisis little regarded hitherto outside the oil markets, output of Libya’s prized high-quality crude oil has plunged from 1.4 million barrels a day earlier this year to just 160,000 barrels a day now. Despite threats to use military force to retake the oil ports, the government in Tripoli has been unable to move effectively against striking guards and mutinous military units that are linked to secessionist forces in the east of the country.
Libyans are increasingly at the mercy of militias which act outside the law. Popular protests against militiamen have been met with gunfire; 31 demonstrators were shot dead and many others wounded as they protested outside the barracks of “the Libyan Shield Brigade” in the eastern capital Benghazi in June. (snip)
“Back to the OT: what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?”
Swarming news websites and online forums is easiest. On this issue it’s pushing at an open door as almost everyone agrees already. I’d say the key meme is lobby vs public i.e. that the big decisions are being made by the small number of people who pay out campaign donations and not the public. Syria really brings out the truth of that in a very stark way.
.
“How the hell any of this lunacy is supposed to benefit Israel is beyond me.”
I tend to agree personally but Israeli polls are 66% vs 17% in favor and if you argue a lot online then you’ll have noticed a lot of the pro-intervention people are Jews.
If you take as a premise that the way Jews behave is largely a function of extreme self-induced paranoia then i think it makes sense that they would disproportionately notice immediate threats – like Assad’s scud missiles or Europeans – and not threats further away – like an Al Queda Syria or a Europe full of muslims.
Here is the contact info for the Patriarch of Antioch.
See if they have material or video of statements that can be run or recorded. Put em on TV as adverts.
Sam says:
“Most of our politicians are concerned about their futures not ours.
They are beholden to AIPAC and will dance to the tunes played by Klezmer bands.”
Jack replies:
I like to send personal letters containing 30 nickels $1.50 – 30 pieces of silver, with e NT Bible quotes.
more of the same says:
‘How the hell any of this lunacy is supposed to benefit Israel is beyond me. It could well be their death sentence. I’m sure many here will be heart broken if that happens.’
Seems that most of us are not aware of Eretz Israel. Israel is run by Orthodox jews who believe they have a right to claim much of the land in the mid-east. Syria is in their sights. Look at the maps in the link.
Why do we, the Jews celebrating Pesach (Passover) in Jerusalem, still say: “Next year in Jerusalem!” Aren’t we already here?
The rebuilt Jerusalem we pray for is not this modern city, and the redeemed Eretz Israel is not the political state of the Jews we see today. As the influence of the Torah extends, so will the boundaries of Eretz Israel expand accordingly.
Futuristic Map Based on the Torah
“To your descendants I have given this land, from the Egyptian River as far as the great river, the Euphrates.”
Bereshit (Genesis) 15:18
The speculative map above is mostly based on the commentaries of Rashi and Malbim about the boundaries of the future described in the Book of Ezekiel, chapters 47-48. The details of the future map of the Land of Israel are mentioned only cryptically in the Tanach and various Talmudic sources.
May we soon live in Moshiach’s Jerusalem, and plow the land of redeemed Israel. May we celebrate the Pesach (Passover) Seder in spiritual freedom, when all Jews will have claimed their inheritance in the eternal Eretz Israel.
“what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?”
Don’t be a zombie war.
I doubt Raspail envisioned the exertion western governments would make to bring his prophesy to fruition. If this report is true, it is simply the administrative dissolution of a nation. A race and culture cultivated through millennia…gone.
It seems pointless wars may have a point yet.
“what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?”
Don’t be zombify by the war warmonger.
What’s good for Xe?
Raspail was probably thinking terms of fantasy extremes. He did not anticipate Suicide Swede Squad.
Yes, John, for once you are right about something. It is helpful to use quotation marks to indicate quotations. It appeared you were expressing your preference for monarchy yet again, but very oddly. Your British monarchy is indeed Talmudic-influenced, even before the reign of Disraeli, servient to the City of London.
Patrick Henry recommended a very limited (with “many checks” as he put it) kingship only because he feared the American Presidency could become even MORE monarchial than limited constitutional monarchy — undemocratically, absolutely monarchial, as in: “the army will salute him monarch, your militia will leave you, and assist in making him king, and fight against you — and what have you to oppose this force? What will then become of you and your rights? Will not absolute despotism ensue?”
I think we need to let it go. We’ll never save this world as it is. Our best shot is to duke it out in the coming chaos, tragic and unfortunate as it will be. Let loose the hounds, let the chips fall, whatever. It’s time.
The King was probably surprised by the declaration of independence as it innumerated all sorts of things that were in his power that were actually Parliamentary prerogatives. “wait wait. Pitt, I can do that ?”
“No sir, they made it up whole cloth.”
Re: “servient to the City of London”: I meant the monarchy, not Disraeli.
“Over and over again we have seen that there is in this country another power than that which has its seat at Westminster. The City of London, a convenient term for a collection of financial interests, is able to assert itself against the Government of the country. Those who control money can pursue a policy at home and abroad contrary to that which has been decided by the people.” http://thebritishresistance.co.uk/writers/the-editor27/2315-the-english-national-resistance
John, Patrick Henry’s fears materialised quickly in the Presidencies of the copycat republics of Latin America, that became dictatorships. Here, it took longer, until Abraham Lincoln developed.
John, you appeared to be suggesting the military depose the President and make a king, and I said, the next illogical step would be to make the king a god. Obama was almost becoming a god: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow0M9STj_PI
On topic: People I meet around here say they believe another war is coming, and none are in favour. None sees any benefit for anyone through it. Even the few remaining active Tea Party discussion boards have posts and comments critical of this war. Who is supporting it? No one around here.
What about roadside graffiti?
Here’s how it works out.
1. The American people say no.
2. Assad’s secret Holocaust Denial Special Forces Squad releases Nerve Gas at the Rose Bowl.
3. The American people say yes.
Boehner is a gutless coward who opposes our interests. His crying is pathetic, as is the lack of decency in his immediate family. I have absolutely no respect for him as a man, much less a politician.
I just think that tie is kinda niggerish.
If your American chief be a man of ambition and abilities, how easy is it for him to render himself absolute. The army is in his hands, and if he be a man of address, it will be attached to him … Away with your president! We shall have a king: the army will salute him monarch.
Given that an airstrike locks the US into following the calamity of Iraq or the lesser calamity of Libya and that there is nothing you can do to stop it, you ought to vociferously advocate for the Christian population’s interests in the region. It’s your best
option. Define those interests and lobby your reps and Senator.
Approval ratings for this is in the single digits. I’m too busy making calls on immigration. If single digits don’t speak for themselves, then D.C. is hopeless.
One WaPo poll shows a way overinflated 36% support, but with 59% against. In the breakdown, there was not one single age, gender, racial or ideological group that supported it more than opposed it, and most strongly opposed it more than they either strongly or somewhat supported it. The only “bright” spot for the Syria warmongers is that there is that black partisan Democrats are a relatively supporting (but still underwater) demographic, only because Obama is a black Democrat. In the case of maybe 10% of blacks, it’s pure loyalty to black and blue.
Lib Dems are much better than Neo Con Christian Zionists Republicans. I recommend calling lib Dem Sen, Congressmen and say:
“I didn’t vote for this”
Assad looks a bit like a skinny Charles de Gaulle, blue eyes and all that. A great deal of the Syrian Army that I’ve seen so far have Southern European features too. Weak chin though. I’m not surprised the blacks are kinda sorta on board for this operation. How many USAF or USN pilots are darkies anyway? Right?
Jack Ryan
Even the fundamentalist evangelical Christian “standing with Israel” types aren’t on board with this.
How the hell any of this lunacy is supposed to benefit Israel is beyond me. It could well be their death sentence. I’m sure many here will be heart broken if that happens.
countenance says:
September 3, 2013 at 8:56 pm
Jack Ryan
Even the fundamentalist evangelical Christian “standing with Israel” types aren’t on board with this.”
Jack replies:
What are you saying? Prostitutes are not going to go along with some things?
The Israelis enjoy chaos in their neighbour’s household? If the US knocks out the Syrian AAA and Airforce that’s 100 less sorties the Israelis have to concern themselves with. It’s also possible that Syria stripped of radar, SAMs and other counter measures can be discounted when they finally get around to bombing Iranian AAA and airbases.
Jack Ryan writes:
What are you saying? Prostitutes are not going to go along with some things?
I respond:
More like you can only go to the well so often before it runs out of water.
Bonehead Boehner’s aa son-in-law enlist anytime soon. 99 percent of congress kids aren’t enlisted. If they are. Assigned to desk duty.
Vote Republican !!!!! That will solve the problem! HaHaHa. The Military Industrial Complex and or the Jews have total control of the US Military. Nobody in their right mind would get involved in Syria. In reality the US will be supporting the same terrorist organizations they were supposedly fighting against in Iraq and Afghanistan. We should stay in touch with our bought and paid for elected officials and say NO. On the other hand the real solution to totally changing America’s Imperial Foreign Policy would be for American soldiers in mass to refuse deployment in any foreign nation like Syria. Of course the American Empire would turn around and arm Illegal Immigrants and make them America’s new army. So we win either way. Free Dixie NOW !
Brian Pace writes:
“way. Free Dixie NOW !”
Jack responds:
OK, but I note that I and some Latter Day Saintsat the University of Chicago are the only straight White folks in my neighborhood, but at least 99% of my neighbors are against a US military attack on Syria. Can’t say say the same about the confused, Christian Zionists that voted in Lindsey Graham and Newt Gingrich who won the South Carolina GOP presidential primary. Wow! We live in strange times.
Jack, should we immediately accept as gospel truth the establishment’s claims that Assad did in fact use chemical weapons or is there a grace period that such absurd conspiracy theories might be entertained at OD?
What should good white people do with regards to the chemical weapons claims?
The screwballs in DC are living in the past; folks could be called upon to enlist. The far east are well aware of this that U.S can no longer wage a two front war.
What should we do to oppose the US Empire’s massively unpopular plan to attack Syria?
Justin Raimondo:
This is one battle the peace camp can win – but only if you act.
I know many of my readers are skeptical every time I ask them to call their congressional representatives. They may have a point, but I would argue that this time it’s imperative, both morally and politically. Contrary to popular belief, it does have an effect – especially in this particular instance. These people are politicians: they not only want to win reelection, they want to be liked. The prospect of another war is deeply unpopular, and they know it. By hammering this point home, a flurry of calls is bound to register in their minds as a sign to run for cover. They’re already wondering: if this turns out badly, and I’m on the record supporting it, do I really want to go there? Your calls will increase their doubts.
Congress, at the behest of the Israel lobby, passed a series of anti-Syrian resolutions nearly unanimously, and nobody noticed: now the President is handing them the control panel and giving them the option to press the red button. It’s a masterful bit of political jiu-jitsu – and we who want to stop the rush to war must take full advantage of it.
It’s Labor Day weekend as this is being written, and congressional offices will be open and taking calls on Tuesday. That’s the time to call. Remember to be brief, and be polite.
Read the whole thing:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/09/01/a-blank-check-for-war/
John wrote: “Away with your president! We shall have a king: the army will salute him monarch.”
What? You Talmudic (British) monarchist! Next you’ll be calling for the king to be made a god.
O Obama! Save us!
It doesn’t look like they are listening to the people on this one anyway.
Since most of us here have concluded that America is beyond saving and that the only hope for our future is to carve out a new nation from the rotting carcass of the old, the hubris on Syria should frighten us into redoubling our efforts and also make it easier to pitch our sale to others.
I’m thinking more along the lines of fliers and organizing protests.
Obama worshipper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRgB2eeHZEw&list=PLo-vjV4cIrClVqXFtweN4TbgmtrEuT9FJ
“..and that the only hope for our future is to carve out a new nation from the rotting carcass of the old..”
– Oh shut the hell up with that nonsense. You won’t be carving a damn thing. Your “Dixie” is going to be overrun with beaners and there isn’t a damn thing you can do about it. You’ll move North to whiter area and keep your mouth shut and live out the remainder of your life.
There is no “Great White North” anymore.
Sorry, wrong video. This is the link intended: http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_08_13/You-are-good-Barack-Obama-children-and-youth-across-US-pray-to-President-7794/
“You’ll move North to whiter area and keep your mouth shut and live out the remainder of your life.”
Meanwhile we need to see that the great white North REMAINS a whiter area, even 100% white in some counties and communities.
Here’s a conversation starter, “do you feel like your government cares about your opinion?”
I have written the letters, and made the phone calls, but isn’t it a bit like putting a message in a bottle? I’ve never been to a town hall or had my chance to directly address “representatives”. I’m sure many folks could resonate with that.
Back to the OT: what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?
Hunter Wallace says:
September 3, 2013 at 10:58 pm
Back to the OT: what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?
JR responds:
Well, I took out full page advertisements in the Nashville Tennessean and Chattanooga Times and did talk radio in 1991 when the same Yid,Neo Con, X’tian Zionists did the similar US attack on Iraq -Suddam was “Hitler” you know. I thought I did rather well, but had to compete with Hank Williams Jr. putting out some “bomb Iraq” propaganda song. Sweet reason doesn’t compete very well with Hank Williams Jr., SEC football that sort of thing.
Get in touch with Palmetto Patriot about paid media in Murfreesboro and Shelbyville.
“There is no “Great White North” anymore.”
Oh yes there is: http://demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/index.html
Mosin,
Google search who actually said that. It was Patrick Henry. Talmudic indeed you fraudulent nincompoop.
Hunter Wallace says:
September 3, 2013 at 11:23 pm
Get in touch with Palmetto Patriot about paid media in Murfreesboro and Shelbyville.
JR responds.
Will do.
Contact the Christian Patriarch there. Have him record a video. Have him appeal to the better instincts of the American.
Hunter Wallace says:
‘Back to the OT: what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?’
We can’t do a thing but spin our wheels and watch events unfold.
Yes, as is my custom I phoned my representatives offices and sent e-mails. They do not care what I think.
Most of our politicians are concerned about their futures not ours.
They are beholden to AIPAC and will dance to the tunes played by Klezmer bands.
Interesting article I read today. Remember when we were told it was imperative to dethrone wicked Qaddafi? How did that work out? Disaster for all parties except jews whose goal it is to destabilize nations and wreak havoc.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/special-report-we-all-thought-libya-had-moved-on–it-has-but-into-lawlessness-and-ruin-8797041.html
Special report: We all thought Libya had moved on – it has, but into lawlessness and ruin
Libya has plunged unnoticed into its worst political and economic crisis since the defeat of Gaddafi
little under two years ago, Philip Hammond, the Defence Secretary, urged British businessmen to begin “packing their suitcases” and to fly to Libya to share in the reconstruction of the country and exploit an anticipated boom in natural resources.
Yet now Libya has almost entirely stopped producing oil as the government loses control of much of the country to militia fighters.
Mutinying security men have taken over oil ports on the Mediterranean and are seeking to sell crude oil on the black market. Ali Zeidan, Libya’s Prime Minister, has threatened to “bomb from the air and the sea” any oil tanker trying to pick up the illicit oil from the oil terminal guards, who are mostly former rebels who overthrew Muammar Gaddafi and have been on strike over low pay and alleged government corruption since July.
As world attention focused on the coup in Egypt and the poison gas attack in Syria over the past two months, Libya has plunged unnoticed into its worst political and economic crisis since the defeat of Gaddafi two years ago. Government authority is disintegrating in all parts of the country putting in doubt claims by American, British and French politicians that Nato’s military action in Libya in 2011 was an outstanding example of a successful foreign military intervention which should be repeated in Syria.
In an escalating crisis little regarded hitherto outside the oil markets, output of Libya’s prized high-quality crude oil has plunged from 1.4 million barrels a day earlier this year to just 160,000 barrels a day now. Despite threats to use military force to retake the oil ports, the government in Tripoli has been unable to move effectively against striking guards and mutinous military units that are linked to secessionist forces in the east of the country.
Libyans are increasingly at the mercy of militias which act outside the law. Popular protests against militiamen have been met with gunfire; 31 demonstrators were shot dead and many others wounded as they protested outside the barracks of “the Libyan Shield Brigade” in the eastern capital Benghazi in June. (snip)
“Back to the OT: what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?”
Swarming news websites and online forums is easiest. On this issue it’s pushing at an open door as almost everyone agrees already. I’d say the key meme is lobby vs public i.e. that the big decisions are being made by the small number of people who pay out campaign donations and not the public. Syria really brings out the truth of that in a very stark way.
.
“How the hell any of this lunacy is supposed to benefit Israel is beyond me.”
I tend to agree personally but Israeli polls are 66% vs 17% in favor and if you argue a lot online then you’ll have noticed a lot of the pro-intervention people are Jews.
If you take as a premise that the way Jews behave is largely a function of extreme self-induced paranoia then i think it makes sense that they would disproportionately notice immediate threats – like Assad’s scud missiles or Europeans – and not threats further away – like an Al Queda Syria or a Europe full of muslims.
Here is the contact info for the Patriarch of Antioch.
http://antiochpatriarchate.org/
See if they have material or video of statements that can be run or recorded. Put em on TV as adverts.
Sam says:
“Most of our politicians are concerned about their futures not ours.
They are beholden to AIPAC and will dance to the tunes played by Klezmer bands.”
Jack replies:
I like to send personal letters containing 30 nickels $1.50 – 30 pieces of silver, with e NT Bible quotes.
more of the same says:
‘How the hell any of this lunacy is supposed to benefit Israel is beyond me. It could well be their death sentence. I’m sure many here will be heart broken if that happens.’
Seems that most of us are not aware of Eretz Israel. Israel is run by Orthodox jews who believe they have a right to claim much of the land in the mid-east. Syria is in their sights. Look at the maps in the link.
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future.php
Future Israel
Next Year in Jerusalem
Why do we, the Jews celebrating Pesach (Passover) in Jerusalem, still say: “Next year in Jerusalem!” Aren’t we already here?
The rebuilt Jerusalem we pray for is not this modern city, and the redeemed Eretz Israel is not the political state of the Jews we see today. As the influence of the Torah extends, so will the boundaries of Eretz Israel expand accordingly.
Futuristic Map Based on the Torah
“To your descendants I have given this land, from the Egyptian River as far as the great river, the Euphrates.”
Bereshit (Genesis) 15:18
The speculative map above is mostly based on the commentaries of Rashi and Malbim about the boundaries of the future described in the Book of Ezekiel, chapters 47-48. The details of the future map of the Land of Israel are mentioned only cryptically in the Tanach and various Talmudic sources.
May we soon live in Moshiach’s Jerusalem, and plow the land of redeemed Israel. May we celebrate the Pesach (Passover) Seder in spiritual freedom, when all Jews will have claimed their inheritance in the eternal Eretz Israel.
“what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?”
Don’t be a zombie war.
I doubt Raspail envisioned the exertion western governments would make to bring his prophesy to fruition. If this report is true, it is simply the administrative dissolution of a nation. A race and culture cultivated through millennia…gone.
It seems pointless wars may have a point yet.
“what should we do in response to the Syria war? Practical suggestions?”
Don’t be zombify by the war warmonger.
What’s good for Xe?
Raspail was probably thinking terms of fantasy extremes. He did not anticipate Suicide Swede Squad.
Yes, John, for once you are right about something. It is helpful to use quotation marks to indicate quotations. It appeared you were expressing your preference for monarchy yet again, but very oddly. Your British monarchy is indeed Talmudic-influenced, even before the reign of Disraeli, servient to the City of London.
Patrick Henry recommended a very limited (with “many checks” as he put it) kingship only because he feared the American Presidency could become even MORE monarchial than limited constitutional monarchy — undemocratically, absolutely monarchial, as in: “the army will salute him monarch, your militia will leave you, and assist in making him king, and fight against you — and what have you to oppose this force? What will then become of you and your rights? Will not absolute despotism ensue?”
http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a2_1_1s16.html
I think we need to let it go. We’ll never save this world as it is. Our best shot is to duke it out in the coming chaos, tragic and unfortunate as it will be. Let loose the hounds, let the chips fall, whatever. It’s time.
The King was probably surprised by the declaration of independence as it innumerated all sorts of things that were in his power that were actually Parliamentary prerogatives. “wait wait. Pitt, I can do that ?”
“No sir, they made it up whole cloth.”
Re: “servient to the City of London”: I meant the monarchy, not Disraeli.
“Over and over again we have seen that there is in this country another power than that which has its seat at Westminster. The City of London, a convenient term for a collection of financial interests, is able to assert itself against the Government of the country. Those who control money can pursue a policy at home and abroad contrary to that which has been decided by the people.” http://thebritishresistance.co.uk/writers/the-editor27/2315-the-english-national-resistance
John, Patrick Henry’s fears materialised quickly in the Presidencies of the copycat republics of Latin America, that became dictatorships. Here, it took longer, until Abraham Lincoln developed.
John, you appeared to be suggesting the military depose the President and make a king, and I said, the next illogical step would be to make the king a god. Obama was almost becoming a god: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow0M9STj_PI
On topic: People I meet around here say they believe another war is coming, and none are in favour. None sees any benefit for anyone through it. Even the few remaining active Tea Party discussion boards have posts and comments critical of this war. Who is supporting it? No one around here.
What about roadside graffiti?
Here’s how it works out.
1. The American people say no.
2. Assad’s secret Holocaust Denial Special Forces Squad releases Nerve Gas at the Rose Bowl.
3. The American people say yes.