Mike Cernovich’s Deploraball Now The Kosherball

MILO is now headlining the event. He’s the “star.”

I haven’t been following this all that closely, but it seems to confirm what I had been reading over at The Daily Stormer that there was an effort to neuter the Alt-Right by making it safe and kosher and installing “leaders” like MILO:

Update: Mike Thernovich BTFO in epic Periscope!

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  1. The alt-right has the answers, it doesn’t need to evolve. The formula that led to explosive growth between 2014 and 2016 will work equally well now that Trump is in the White House. See you all in Constantinople!

    • You can’t trust whites who hate themselves so much they don’t want their children to look like themselves.

    • Between his shameless self promotion, faggy lisping, copulation with a mystery meat and denunciation of anyhting that approaches white solidarity I’m sure they’ve made him a honorary one by now.

    • “Trump is gonna lose!”, “Milo is good!”, “Cernovich is not a jew”, “We’re all doomed!”.

      Honestly, man, you rub me the wrong way.

  2. Most of these ‘alt-lite’ internet personalities are probably mostly in it for the money. That is not to say they don’t have genuine political beliefs, but that their primary motivation is profit. The two most egregious examples of the, IMO, are Cernovich and Milo.

    And as much as we want to support Baked Alaska in this situation (and if the ‘evidence’ is real, then Alaska is genuinely in the right), we still should be skeptical of the guy, because he is certainly an opportunist to a degree, who not so long ago supported BLM and wrote for Buzzfeed. I wouldn’t be surprised if he is talking about the JQ to simply grow his audience.

    The only people I trust are people who have been 100% on board w/ the alt-right and all major aspects of it. Spencer, TRS, Occidental Dissent, KMAC, Red Ice, and many more.

    • Hunter

      I don’t understand why you are taking a contrary line on these Alt-Lite versus NatSoc disputes to the position you take with your League of The South activism, where you and Michael Cushman impose strict flag and dress codes and are at pains to prevent dimwits and self-expressionists doing stupid in public and contaminating the message.

      Surely the point of Alt-Right is to do Nationalism that normal people can relate to – not to be a playground for the hard core striving to win points by out-Adolfing each other, and driving away people who see the crisis we are in but aren’t buying NatSoc.

      Let NatSoc do their thing but don’t cater to it.

      • 1.) In my experience, it is far easier to control our message in real life. You are dealing with stuff like signs, flags, attire. It is impossible to do it on the internet. Both of us eventually got tired of people “sounding off” with violent rhetoric on Facebook. Even within the League of the South, we couldn’t control it.

        2.) There’s no way to police what anonymous people say on Facebook, Twitter, Disqus, etc. I can police the comments on this blog if they get violent, but I can’t stop anyone from “sounding” off on their own Twitter account or 4chan or Facebook. I could police this comment section more thoroughly to project a more mainstream image, but it would absorb far too much of my time.

        3.) As for the Nationalist Socialists, they aren’t going anywhere. They’re going to do their own thing regardless of what I say or do. They have their own websites and social media accounts. As I told RAMZPAUL, this debate has been going on for 15 years now and at some point years ago I just got tired of it.

  3. Alt-Cuck has a raging infection of enemy agents that it conceals from Alt-Right. This latest Alt-Cuck discharge is just another visible manifestation of that hidden infection.

    Hold the core. By the 14 words you shall know them.

    • I’d rather have Mr. Griffin’s talents focuset on saving The South, than having them disperset across hell’s creation – both literally and ideologically.

      Just my own selfish view, Mr. Saint!

  4. I’ll step up and take over as their leader.
    Down with Baked Alaska! Up with Dick Size!
    Heil Dick Size! Heil Dick Size!

    • It was inevitable. Anti-Whites can’t do without controlled opposition. Hopefully, many more of our people have wised up to it.

  5. The alt right is doing what the white nationalist movement did years ago. This happened with Ian Jobbling, Guy White etc.

    One faction of charlatans tries to ally with mainstream conservatives.
    Another faction of charlatans tries to portray itself as the “truth teller” on the Jewish question, failing the denounce the first group in broader terms for being ideologically flawed and dumbed down and focusing instead exclusively on Jewish participation.

    Smart people avoid both factions for ideology that goes beyond racial charlatanism.

  6. The alt right is doing what the white nationalist movement did years ago. This happened with Ian Jobbling, Guy White etc.

    -One faction of charlatans tries to ally with mainstream conservatives.
    -Another faction of charlatans tries to portray itself as the “truth teller” on the Jewish question, failing to denounce the first group in broader terms for being ideologically flawed and dumbed down and focusing instead exclusively on Jewish participation.

    Smart people avoid both factions for ideology that goes beyond racial charlatanism.

    • Smart people identify the jew as the ones that overwhelmingly run Hollywood, mass media and finance, and then also see how those institutions are overwhelmingly anti white. Actually it does not require one to be smart, the evidence is very easy to see for everyone, it just takes courage.

      • Smarter people realize that uneven development is a law of capitalism – as lenin said – therefore uneven ethnic distribution is likely to follow uneven development, because people network with the people they know. And many Jews know other Jews.

        Take out Jews and the same core problem is still there.

        Bottom line – don’t support mainstream conservatism, but don’t support the JQ “truth tellers” either.

        • Anyone that even stumbles into the JQ gets quickly (((shut down))). Jared Wyland, another trumpist twitter personality, had all the tumblers fall into place a few weeks ago. Sending out a tweet string to his thousands of followers about some essential truths there for all to see got him kicked off the platform for good too.

          Smart cowardly people create pretzel logic to explain away what is clear as day to anyone with eyes.

          Smart or dumb honest people can see the JQ plain as day, coward.

    • Mr. Besarab,
      I wonder if you have any idea how obvious your motives are?; and how they, in the eyes of others, disqualify practically everything you say – even when your articulations are formidable?

      • It should be obvious that my attempt is to avoid an alliance with liberals while rejecting the critique of it as well which alleges that Jewish participation is what makes it detestable. Basically it’s to oppose both pro-Semitic Coke and anti-Semitic Pepsi.

      • To be perfectly honest, I have no idea why one would ally with the second group. If you really believe reformism is possible, then moderating on the Jewish question is logical.

        If you don’t believe it’s possible, then the logical conclusion is guerrilla tactics, not using the white vote to get in power. In that case it makes perfect sense to aggravate class struggle across racial lines.

        It doesn’t make sense to have the position that you’re a mainstream Republican – except you name the Jew.

        • Yeah right mr big nose, receding hairline and portruding lower lip. Must suck having easily observeable phenotypes, huh?

  7. My, what an impressive, no-nonsense white man is this Cernovich …

    “Fucking act like it man”

    Don’t merely act like it: Fucking act like it … man.

    “No more fuck ups”

    Because every no-nonsense white man knows that raising the JQ is a fuck up.

    “No Nazi salutes. No JQ bullshit.”

    Because if I, Mike Cernovich, were simply to say no JQ, as opposed to no JQ bullshit, well, then, I’d be a cuck.

    “Or don’t have your name on the event.”

    A man knows what his name should or shouldn’t be on.

    “Whatever you want man, your choice”

    I, Mike Cernovich, leave it up to you, ’cause I’m a man, talking to you like a man … man. (That’s why I, Mike Cernovich, don’t bother with faggot-sounding bullshit like impersonal pronouns.)

    “This is not a discussion by the way.”

    I, Mike Cernovich, employ this sort of droll rhetoric.

    “This is an ultimatum.”

    Because I, Mike Cernovich, am like a warrior or something.

    “Handle your business.”

    Yeah–your business. Handle it … man.

  8. This was so predictable. Bound to happen. Saw it coming months ago.

    Cernovich is a self-promoting, money-grubbing scumbag.

    As it happens, he lives down the street from me.

  9. I first visited Cernovich’s site several years ago. It must have been about 2009-2011. It looked very different then.

    There was some negro who kept leaving comments about how he went out and picked up White women. I started trolling him. Soon after that, Cernovich banned me.

    If I’m not mistaken, Cernovich has claimed there’s a history of mental illness and BPD in his family. I’m surprised no one has picked up on that. He’s clearly a weird, unstable guy.

  10. Milo, Cernovich and the rest of the faux radicals have outlived their usefulness. They’re not pro-White, so why would pro-White people trust them to support real pro-White people when push comes to shove?

  11. I think it’s more instructive that Netanyahu summoned the U.S. ambassador, because Obama dared to vote with the U.N. against Israeli interests. It says a lot more about Jews and their expectations, than this does.

  12. Milo and Cernovich aren’t “cucks” because they are jews. Cuckservatives are gentiles who cuck to the Self-Chosen. I “unfollowed” Cernovich weeks ago when I realized he was just another whiny jew trying to peddle his wares to the goyim.

    • How do u know Cernovich is a Jew? I thought he was some kind of Croatian or something. Now, as for Milo, even though he is half-Jewish, never looked at him that way. As a gay dude-yes–cause he’s really out there gay. And I thought if anything he’d try to make alt-right more gay friendly. Never heard Milo carry on about being a half-Jew.

      • The alt-right is not gay friendly, homosexuality is degeneracy. If you’re gay and pro-White, keep it in the closet. We must maintain a strict “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

  13. If you can’t beat them join them, subvert them and take them over. Sounds like typical Jewish strategy to me. Beware the Jew who acts like he’s on your side. I’d say 99.9% of the time he’s just acting and has his own agenda to impose on you.

  14. A key lesson here is that only the gullible and the fools ever trust Jews or — just as bad — people who associate with Jews in any capacity.

    The rule should be simple. Always exclude Jews.

    • You don’t even have to establish a rule like that when an all-encompassing standard works just as well.

      Milo is a homosexual Jewish guy who loves to talk about his affinity for black cocks. Has he ever claimed to be pro-White? No, not at all. He’s doing exactly what you would expect from a gay Jewish guy who craves attention and a spotlight more than he does unfettered Truth. The second he starts attacking real pro-White people for doing nothing more than speaking the Truth, then he becomes a tool for the anti-Whites. The pro-White sphere has no room for Jewish faggots who deserve to choke on black cocks. It has no room for anyone hindering and attacking pro-White people when they speak the Truth.

      Aside from his annoying Jew voice, what other aspect of Cernovich’s life might make one skeptical of his ability to actually support pro-White interests instead of a bland and generic attempt to promote pro-American interests? Has he ever claimed to be pro-White or spent any real time and energy promoting and defending pro-White interests?

      Look around at many of the people trying to cash in and brand themselves as “leaders” or spokespeople of the Alt-Right and you will see a trend.

      Simple Rule:

      If they do not say they are pro-White or shy away from fervently defending other pro-Whites when they are attacked because of their pro-White views, then they are NOT pro-White; therefore, they should be shunned and automatically assumed to be a slightly less hostile sect of the multiracial utopian cult.

      I’ve used this rule for well over a decade and it has always worked for me.

      • It’s not just that MILO is a Jew.

        He’s a Jew, an extreme narcissist, an attention whore, a pervert who bathes in blood, a crossdresser, a homosexual who proudly boasts of having sex with black men and someone who started a scholarship fund for White kids only to raise $100,000 and deposit it in his own bank account. A few years ago, he was writing for Daily Dot and advocating censoring the internet.

        What is there to like about this person?

  15. What the “alt right” should have been doing post Trump victory: getting involved in the GOP and political process across the board. Folks, he’s in there for 4 years, maybe 8. Secession is off the table, for now. Partition is off the table, for now. We should be trying to get as much done demographically within the paradigm afforded by Trump. Why? As soon as Trump falters or is replaced by a normal System politician, we will need to hastily put Partition back on the table.

    In fact, as we work with the rank and file GOP, not the headliners, mind you, but the folks at the grassroots, we build trust and tell them that “we are here to fight for Trump and to fight for your values, and the fall back position is white nationalism.”

    Done! That’s all you have to do! No insane and violent rhetoric. No Nazi symbolism. Just hard work and trust building.

    Instead the “alt-right” has decided to spurn the more wise amongst its fellow travelers and is continuing down a dead end road into a ditch. Spencer-Enoch-Anglin are marching their troops into the proverbial swamp where they can be mercilessly pummeled by the enemy. Why not the high ground? Why not just sit back and counter punch the inevitable overreach of the Coalition of the Ascending?

    When you tell the same jokes for two years, they become stale. Certain things can’t be funny, like gassing people, burning people, hanging people etc. If you are going to invoke the Jewish Question, there has to be a point to it, and it cannot be anything resembling Nazism, fascism, violence etc. Nobody wants it.

    If a battle line is drawn (and behind the scenes it already has been drawn) between the “alt right” and what is termed the “alt light” but is properly considered the libertarian right, the alt right will lose. I’m not sure if I should be sorry about that, perhaps at one point I would have been, but the alt right has failed utterly to make the transition from a backs-against-the-wall movement to a partner to power. It is worse than useless, it is dangerous.

    • You don’t understand the difference between politics and meta-politics.

      Spencer-Enoch-Anglin are creating a generation of people that call eachother goy and laugh at oven jokes. They will become the grassroots in time.

      You are proposing dying on the high-ground hill that your enemy defined for you. This is what seperates the Alt-Right from conservatism in all it’s flavors. One wants to control a few narrow, official channels of power. The other wants to change the entire culture to overwelm the chokepoints that are so easily controlled by the (((left))).

    • It is pretty clear from the screencaps that Cernovich is 1.) trying to shutdown discussion of Jews and 2.) install MILO as an Alt-Right leader. That’s not the same thing as Daily Stormer “gas the kikes” memes or Nazi salutes at the NPI conference. You can disagree with that sort of thing without trying to sell out and become a sexed up mainstream conservative.

    • That’s right Afterthought, Alt-Right *is* dangerous — to the enemy.

      Which is why you want so badly to control it.

      Not. Gonna. Happen.

      Tuck your balls and head back over to the Alt-Cuck hen house.

      We’ll wave to you from the battlefield.

  16. This all sounds like the whining of the left out losers. I’M GOING TO THE DEPLORABALL! I’ll think about you all while I’m dancing my ass off. In fact, the DC trip is going to take the place of Mardi Gras for me this year. GO, Trump!

  17. The Jews are like Negroids. Everywhere they go and everything they get involved with they fuck up for everybody else.

    Just like the shutting down of malls because “youth” are involved in mass fighting.

    There’s no point in getting involved or collaborating at all with Jews or Negroids. The end result will be the same. Fucked up.

  18. Cernovich is saying, via link from Vox Day, that he put down $90.000 for the hall and was paying Based Alaska several thousand dollars a week to set things up. If this is true he does have a right to boot him. Vox Day and Cernovich are both complaining about Based Alaska calling out the Jew basically. I wonder how anyone will ever get anything positive in this done if you DON’T call out the Jew. Even if it’s seen as crude and troublesome if people keep doing it eventually even the dumbest NORM’s will look into what all these people bitching about the Jews are saying. Any backing off from naming the Jew will lead no where. Every time you look at any movement or group causing destruction of Whites you may not find them at the top but you will find Jews somewhere and throwing money at it. Money they get from owning the banking system and charging us rent on same. Where did Cernovich get $90,000 that suddenly makes it all so important NOT to name the Jew? $90,000 is nothing to the PTB and well worth throwing the whole rally into turmoil and having a Jewish homosexual suddenly be the headliner. Just a big shit on you farce.

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