Pew: Christianity Is Collapsing At Record Pace In The United States

October 17, 2019 Hunter Wallace Christianity, Conservatism, Cuckservatives, Culture, Liberalism, Progressives, Religion 62

Conservative liberalism has always struck me as an oxymoron.

Philosophically speaking, there is nothing “conservative” about liberalism. It is an inherently destabilizing philosophy. The liberal idea is based on the repudiation of authority and dissolving the social order. It seeks to dissolve all natural distinctions and hierarchies. As a project, conservative liberalism is like the preservation of cancer.

I’ve repeatedly made this point in my attacks on David French. If classical liberalism is compatible with social conservatism, then shouldn’t social conservatism be doing great in United Kingdom and the Netherlands which are its birthplace? Why should the trajectory of Christianity, specifically evangelical Protestantism, be any different in the United States in the long run than in Britain? It was the British who created this cultural package of evangelical Christianity, free-market capitalism and classical liberalism that is defended by French.

Back in July in a particularly vicious and warranted attack on David French, I predicted that classical liberalism would end up killing God and inevitably collapsing into secularism, nihilism, atheism and national suicide in the long run. The bullying of French and the dismantling of his preening, sanctimonious bullshit is absolutely necessary to have the intellectual clarity to save Western civilization because we can’t afford another decade of Frenchism.

Pew:

“The religious landscape of the United States continues to change at a rapid clip. In Pew Research Center telephone surveys conducted in 2018 and 2019, 65% of American adults describe themselves as Christians when asked about their religion, down 12 percentage points over the past decade. Meanwhile, the religiously unaffiliated share of the population, consisting of people who describe their religious identity as atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular,” now stands at 26%, up from 17% in 2009.

Both Protestantism and Catholicism are experiencing losses of population share. Currently, 43% of U.S. adults identify with Protestantism, down from 51% in 2009. And one-in-five adults (20%) are Catholic, down from 23% in 2009. Meanwhile, all subsets of the religiously unaffiliated population – a group also known as religious “nones” – have seen their numbers swell. Self-described atheists now account for 4% of U.S. adults, up modestly but significantly from 2% in 2009; agnostics make up 5% of U.S. adults, up from 3% a decade ago; and 17% of Americans now describe their religion as “nothing in particular,” up from 12% in 2009. Members of non-Christian religions also have grown modestly as a share of the adult population. …”

The road to Hell is paved with David Frenchism:

None of this comes as any surprise.

If Christianity were thriving under the liberal order, then we wouldn’t be documenting its decline here on a daily basis. Yesterday was International Pronouns Day which was only made possible by the cultural decline of Christianity in Britain and the United States. Culturally speaking, almost every negative trend that we dislike about contemporary America is a product of the steady erosion of our previously dominant Western Christian culture.

Liberalism is killing Christianity. The deregulation of sex and gender and marriage and the family is a liberal idea. The deregulation of national borders is a liberal idea. The deregulation of our culture is a liberal idea. As the sphere of liberalism and free-market capitalism has expanded, the sphere of Christianity has shrunk. See the pornography industry.

Is it possible to come back from the brink of disaster? I would like to think so. I personally know what it is like to come back from atheism and nihilism. Those who do come back aren’t going to fight the culture war like the David Frenches of the world. They won’t be held back by the sentimentality, emotionalism and politeness of French’s evangelicalism.

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61 Comments

  1. Christianity is a dead religion anyway, at least in the West. I’ve seen devout Jews, devout Moslems, devout Hindus but never devout White Christians. Even the churchgoers among us do so merely as a formality, not out of sincerity.

    • Then you’re both lukewarm, and living like Lot did, in a place detrimental to your soul (‘churchgoers among us…’). IN short, nothing but God’s spit….

      “So because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to vomit you out of My mouth!”- Rev. 3;16 BSB

      • Father John,

        There are sure a lot of anti Christians in this White Nationalist movement and/or agent provocateurs.

          • November,

            Of course. It is a mammal. I thought I read somewhere that the higher apes have DNA of around 99% that of a human. If my figures are wrong please correct me.

            As an aside my brother showed me last year a statement by a Libertarian with a newsletter or a website where the libertarian was fond of stating that almost all of human problems could be solved if every body on earth had a rifle and a copy of the Constitution in their hand. I had to admit my brother and I laughed.

            Obviously, that would not solve illegal immigration, abortion, homosexual marriages, the UN, Middle Eastern wars, policy with Russia/China, economic problems etc.

    • @Hunter Wallace, lol so you gave up being a freethinker to accept an irrational, self contradictory, inconsistent, anti-scientific religion? Right makes perfect sense. Give it up dude, Christ-Tard-insanity is not going to have a rebirth, it’s DEAD in the West and will stay dead due to the advancement of Science, the internet, and education. It’s over………. Good riddance.

      • I spent some time in the freethinking community on the Richard Dawkins forum and concluded it was crazier, more irrational, more inconsistent, dogmatic and anti-scientific than Christianity.

        • Please elaborate, I would really like to hear some examples. Also, you are kinda promoting a false-dichotomy here. You can still believe in God and not believe in Christianity. I think that would probably do away with a lot of the so-called inconsistencies you refer to.

          • I recall being on that forum and something like a quarter to a third of the people there were homosexuals who hated Christianity for lifestyle reasons. The rest of them were liberals and progressives to the Left of the Jews.

        • Richard Dawkins is basically a troll just like Donald Trump. His popularity mainly comes from saying mean things about Muslims (for the same reason many ‘grift right’ trolls are popular). It’s no surprise that he attracts degenerate homosexual followers just like Blompf does. That you spent time in their forum shows your own bad judgement.

          • @Hunter Wallace, you realize that Christianity rises and falls based on a couple pillars, and if any of them is wrong then the whole religion falls and crumbles. First of all there is no evidence for Adam, Eve, Noah, and many of the early people in Genesis. If they didn’t literally exist you have a problem. If no Adam and Eve then no original sin therefore no fall, and no reason for Jesus to come. The virgin birth cannot be proven either. Then there is not sufficient evidence that even Jesus of Nazareth literally existed either. If Jesus didn’t exist then you are fucked. Those are just a couple of things but there are a ton of other problems as well. I recommend this video by Richard Carrier per whether Jesus existed or not based on the evidence or lack thereof.

            https://youtu.be/mwUZOZN-9dc

  2. Liberalism isn’t killing Christianity. It’s education and the ease of access to it are killing it, which in turn is causing liberalism. Very few rational white men believe in it anymore because Christianity is obviously not true. Yeah, going to church is nice, and it’s part of our tradition, blah blah blah, but at the end of the day people need to believe in it for them to adhere to it. There was no worldwide flood, no ark with two of each animal, and all the races didn’t descend from Noah’s family after Yahweh annihilated the rest of humanity. There was no “tower of babel” and humanity didn’t start with Yahweh making Adam out of mud. Furthermore, you can’t claim that literally all of Genesis was some “symbolic” fable that never happened. All of it ties in with the New Testament and saying all that stuff never happened takes a big shit on everything. That’s why Ken Ham built a replica of the supposed “ark” in Kentucky, because Christianity makes even LESS sense if you take genesis as allegory. We can’t base our laws and morals off of a book of Jewish mythology anymore man. Trying to go back to that is just foolish and will never happen unless you find some way to destroy modern science and the internet.

    • “Very few rational white men believe in it anymore because Christianity is obviously not true.”

      You are not omniscient, nor omnipresent throughout history. You cannot make such a claim, and those who do, are merely liars, and doing the work of the Jews they supposedly hate. Isn’t it odd, to be an adherent of Talmudism, when you aren’t even the correct race? Talk about schizophrenia!

      • There are too many contradictions, inconsistencies, and shared themes and stories from preceding religions that expose it as just another man made system of control. Most Christians refuse to hear this, let alone analyze it.

      • Uh-huh, I am schizophrenic while you believe:
        (1) Yahweh, the Jewish God, who was allegedly a bronze-aged deity of metallurgy in the Canaanite pantheon is a real entity.
        (2) Yeshua, a magical rabbi that lived 2000 years ago is also Yahweh.
        (3) The Torah, a book written by bronze-aged Jews is the word of Yahweh and not just a book
        (4) All of humanity came from two people Adam and Eve, Adam was made from mud and Eve was from Adam’s rib(despite fossil evidence of humans existing long before 6000 years ago)
        (5) A lady turned into a pillar of salt for looking at a burning city

        I could keep going but I am tired.

        Yeah, and I guess I’m also an adherent of Talmudism and doing the work of the Jew, despite the fact that I think most Jews should be made into dog chow and you’re a good little goy that probably thinks they can be “saved” if they accept Rabbi Yeshua.

        Look buddy, I don’t want to be mean to you personally, you are probably an alright dude. There is nothing wrong with believing in God, I believe in God too, but it’s extremely unlikely that God is Yahweh and all that crap in the bible is true. You don’t need Yahweh to have morality. I love my own people, and I want to live for them, to fight for them, to keep them going, etc. That’s enough for me.

      • “You are not omniscient, nor omnipresent throughout history. You cannot make such a claim, and those who do, are merely liars, and doing the work of the Jews they supposedly hate.”

        No, you’re the one who’s a liar, Fr. John. One doesn’t need to be “omniscient, nor omnipresent throughout history”.to know that a human virgin CANNOT give birth. That’s a fact.

    • The death of Christianity began with the translation of the Bible into the vernacular. Sure, it took a while, but all the mystery was gone and it was slowly revealed more and more as a pile of drivel, heavily salted with jewish malice, weirdness, and sadism. It’s literally just fear of being tortured forever by an undead rabbi’s demonic goons that keeps most people mouthing the formulas that they no longer really believe at this point.

      Liberalism is the second Reformation of Christianity, not something fundamentally opposed to its central universalist, equalitarian spirit. Sure, the liberals claim to hate Christianity, but they simply hate the church they are “reforming,” EXACTLY as Protestants loathe Catholicism and call the “Whore of Babylon,” etc. etc., even though they came from it.

      Liberalism is a Christian schismatic sect, which, exactly like the Protestants it came from, is trying to destroy the previous forms of Christianity in order to monopolize power. It is an attempt to reconcile Christianity with science to an extent by getting rid of Jesus, but transfers worship directly to “the meek” — so-called “minorities,” the inferior, the vile, whom it wishes to make “inherit the Earth.” Previous Christian forms worshiped “the meek” through Jesus, Liberalism simply eliminates the middleman but has the same missionary fervor to “see every one that is high, and abase him” (e.g., tearing down White civilization).

      The parallels to sin, guilt, self-flagellation, witch-hunting of various kinds, and the missionary frenzy of the 19th century abolitionists — all of them fanatical Protestants — are eerie.

  3. Christianity began as a religion for a masculine mind, based upon suffering and sacrifice in the pursuit of refining the soul. The feminized judeo-christianity that has supplanted it is based in the feminine qualities of empathy and universal acceptance which is anti-thetical (and in fact heretical) to the true teachings of Christianity.

    As with any civilizational decay it begins with men being convinced to give up the hardships of man hood and being lured to lazy passive fields of mediocrity. Even for all their faults, the Spartans at their pinnacle understood the importance of hardship and suffering in the cultivation of a strong man.

    Only a willing return to self imposed hardship and suffering will create the character needed for men and woman to continue on the true path of Christendom and civilization. Leisure and comfort have truly become our undoing.

    • Sometimes I joke to myself that I would like to join the Amish. They are the only Christian group that is still growing and is unaffected by the decadence of the West. They are the only group that would be unaffected by the third worlding of ‘murrica.

      • How will a pacifist group that shuns weapons and self defense be “unaffected” in the 3rd world hellhole currently under construction?

        • I saw someone post about them on a nationalist website. He said he lives near them and knows some of them. He said they don’t all live down on the farm. Some live in the towns and have normal jobs. These Amish are wealthy, have guns, and are willing to use them in self defense.

          The Amish you are talking about, only have the luxury of being pacifists when there are non-Amish rifles standing between them, and the barbarian hordes. When white civilization falls, and that protection is stripped away, you will find their attitudes will change very fast. When that day comes, they will have the numbers, and the organization to defend themselves very effectively.

  4. Good. Kristardinsanity is a kike mindworm uses to destroy Humans. Whites are the only Race that have been “intelligent” enough to get suckered in. by the “humility/universalist” lunacy. The BEST things are the WHITE things the kikes co-opted. I think about all the magnificence that’s been lost, since we adopted and incorporated Jeebus the Dead Jew on the Stick. Balder is the original version, and Balder is infinitely superior.

    Hail Dagda! Father of the Celts!

      • It could be argued though that Christianity itself is responsible for 9 year old drag queens. All the degeneracies we see in the modern world first made their appearance in the Christendom, not in the Islamic World nor in China or India.

      • Pew isn’t the best source. Like all pollsters they run telephone polls, and who in their right mind responds to an anonymous voice on the telephone in these days of identity theft.

        Besides the Pew family of Philadelphia has their own politics which are elite liberal-left.

      • You’re right, but unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it other than present a secular argument showing why 9-year-old drag queens should not be tolerated. Aside from that you can only let the rot and decay run it’s course as you aren’t going to convince anyone by talking about demons or citing scriptures from the Torah. There are plenty of right-wing nationalists out there that aren’t Christian at all and there will be many more in the future as things get worse.

        • “Paganism and drag queens go together.”

          No they don’t, you’re lying again. European Folkish Faith =/= lefty “paganism,” much the same as two men “married” in a Christian church =/= Christianity. But I’m to the point that I doubt “Good Christians” are going to tell the truth about much of anything. Lying, smears and ignorance is how these types roll.

      • Paganism and drag queens go together. Denise must be the poster boy for the 9-y.o. fags… and is an ideological sister to Heather Heyer and Heidi Beirich….

        “The churches are infiltrated, vanquished, mocked and disdained. The history of Christianity has been put through the Jewish intellectual meat grinder, and emerges today only as a tale of persecutions and slavery. It is a shell, co-opted for endless tolerance. Even discounting religion, no notable Western historical figure has survived the Culture of Critique. And when our uniquely insightful Jewish helpers tired of toppling reputations, they used their ethnic proxies to start toppling statues, removing names, and burning portraits. No aspect of Western culture was to be left standing. Its science, philosophy and moral systems were mocked, derided, and savaged, with every sonnet, concerto, and technological innovation leading obscurely but somehow definitely to a World War II camp in Poland where to this day, we are earnestly told, no birds sing.

        Except that I’ve visited what remains of this camp, and the birds do sing. There is no magic there. Time does not stand still. The children, forced to be there by their schools, laugh and scrawl graffiti on old bunks and doors, while adults, clearly worried that someone is watching them, do their best to appear solemn and moved rather than cold and bored.”

        https://russia-insider.com/en/necessity-anti-semitism/ri27775

        • Fraud John – you are pathetic. Kristardinsanity is the Cloven Hoof in the Door of the Jew. Kristardinsanity IS slavery to the Jew. I find it bitterly funny that so many alleged WN males turn into hysterical shrieking harpies when people call for a return to Racial Faith. What are you so afraid of? Jeebuz hasn’t answered the phone in 2000 years…….

          Hail Dagda!

          • You are the only one here capable of putting Fr. Blowhard in his place, madam! Happy Thor’s Day to you.

          • Most people were brainwashed into Christianity from birth, and simply do not have the fortitude to overcome that brainwashing.

  5. Christianity is the only religion that can exist on earth. No other planet in the universe with life, would have the immaculate inception with human DNA as a species . Paganism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and many other religions on earth, could universally exist with higher intelligent life if it even exist? Christianity is only earth bound for humans!

    Food for Thought?

  6. Liberalism is a Mortal Sin. When it first started really thriving in the 19th century it was condemned by my religion as damnable. It should be noted that 19th Century liberalism would be considered right wing conservatism by the current standards in the USA and other parts of the world.

    So, if even modern conservatives are condemned by defined dogmas of the Church how much more evil is modern Liberalism that is Satanic?

    Modern Liberalism is what I call soft evil in that it is weak and degenerate. As soon as soft evil meets Hard Forces like Islam or Barbarians or a People with a purpose then Hard Forces usually win.

  7. I’m a none and have been for decades; it’s not liberalism that has killed Bronze Age mythology but science. Outgrowing childish things and abandoning Christianity is neither here nor there in the context of the critique of the decadence of the modern western world. I can easily make the case that Christianity is ultimately responsible for liberalism. That argument goes back at least to Nietzsche and Spengler, so I’m not very original here. Savitri Devi has made that argument even better than those two Germans.

  8. You are so right Hunter. If Christ is not risen, we might as well eat, drink and be merry–for tomorrow we die. The Christian faith gave vitality to the West, and the West has declined as it has lost its faith.

    The Bible predicted in Revelation the situation we now face–a demonic One World ruling class which seeks to obliterate all nations and usher in a new Babel. We can only defeat this supernatural power by trusting Christ as our Lord.

  10. Is it Liberalism hurting Christians, or maybe AlexJones is right, it is the Chinese Communists. They control all the media, right? And the banks, which control the politicians, right? SO, maybe it is half liberals, and half Chinese Communists. Very brave anal-y-sis.

  11. If Christianity is a true religion it will not disappear as the Bible said the gates of Hell will not prevail. Revelations speaks of the second coming of Christ when the Anti-Christ begins to wage war on Christianity from his throne in the newly rebuilt Jewish Temple. If he does not come back and Christianity perishes that means it was a false religion. Time will tell.

    • Thanks, Heartland. You’ve proven my points. The Jews turned lovely, gentle Hel into a terrible thing. Christards aka Hebe Slaves are EVIL.

    • It’s been 2000 years, Heartland. The original Christians were told that Jayzus was going to return during their lifetimes. I’m afraid you’ve been scammed.

      • Yes. I always forget the exact verse. It is in Matthew somewhere, I think. “Before this generation is passed, I will return.”

        • Matthew 24:30 is the verse

          30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earthwill mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

          31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

          32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near.

          33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that itis near, right at the door.

          34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. ”

          That generation passed away some time ago, and here we are, still waiting………

  12. I fully respect my Christian upbringing and our historical Christian heritage. But, I have a strange but ever increasingly feeling that it was just more endless historic Semitic subversion.

    What did they subvert, hypothetitically? European treachery against their fellow Europeans. The powerful taking advantage of the weak.

    Any people who preys on its own is easy to subvert.

    National Socialism syncretized with both Christian and Pagan elements made the Beast panic.

    May we one day defeat Leviathan….

  15. Christianity, a pernicious semitic / levantine death-cult, has gradually weakened the West over the course of centuries to the point where our civilization is about to collapse. That discredited religion will therefore need to be replaced by something better. May I suggest a revised, updated version of Zoroastrianism or Mithraism? The Mystery Schools will also need to be reopened. Justinian closed the last of them in the 6th century. Perhaps madam would be interested in becoming the new Pythoness of Apollo?

  16. When people start to critique capitalism, they usually become anti-religious. Americans are starting to turn against capitalism (although not in a Bolshevik revolution way).

    Most people who get to this point have suffered hardship and are no longer tolerant of idealistic feel good views. Lenin in fact supported famine to toughen people up so they’d stop believing in God.

    The world is moving to the left on economics. It’s obvious in the Democratic Party and the Communist party made a recent comeback in Russia.

  17. The early years of the USA were very secular. Then with the rise of Christianity through the mid 19th century we got the abolitionist movements and the war. Christianity continued to rise up until the 1980s, after social decay had already been set in stone. If anything, Christianity is correlated with decadence in America, at least up until recently.

  18. HHitler was a Christian, and he built 2500 churches. The Germans made sure they had communion even
    in the field on the east front, there are many pictures of this.

  20. This is all counterproductive. Exchanging religions as if they’re merely different soda brands or another sportsball team will accomplish nothing. Atheism, natural selection, paganism, Christianity, etc., are all faith-based religions easy to poke holes into or fun at. Let it go. Don’t we have enough divisions among us already?

  21. @ Daryl… Its not “capitalism” it is private supra-national international usury a firm
    Of socialism or political economy which ultimately is globally centralizing communism!! The universalist “religion” is related…
    https://www.cobdencentre.org/2011/10/the-second-crisis-of-socialism/comment-page-1/
    There is another form of “socialism in one nation” not based on usury.
    As Thomas Edison and Henry Ford pointed out: “If the Nation can issue a dollar bond it can issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill good also. The difference between the bond and the bill is that the bond lets the money broker collect twice the amount of the bond and an additional 20%. Whereas the currency, the honest sort provided by the Constitution pays nobody but those who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd to say our Country can issue bonds and cannot issue currency. Both are promises to pay, but one fattens the usurer and the other helps the People.”

    http://prosperityuk.com/2000/09/thomas-edison-on-government-created-debt-free-money/

    …when you have the “aprons” wearing crowd now pushing christianity, you know there is a problem with that universalist nation destroying ideology so called “religion” !!

  22. Speaking myself I am a Heathen with a strong Anti-Christianity persuasion. I am Anti-Christian in the sense I do not like the overall impact of Christianity as a foreign religion on our Race. I DO respect Christian comrades who I have stood shoulder to shoulder with in combat. I will never approve of infighting that is based on targeting the character of Christian comrades based on their religious beliefs alone.

    That being said, Christianity is Jewish, and against Nature. It is not good for us.

    • Excellent post. It has been pointed out by men smarter than me, that Catholicism saved many of the Pagan Elements of European Man–especially in The Arts and Philosophy. Once Protestantism took hold, they purged all of the “Pagan” elements within Christianity. Notice, there is no beauty in both Protestantism and Judaism (E. Michael Jones makes the argument that Protestants are Judaizers). Of course, now the Catholic Church is incredibly POZ’d and after (((Vatican II))) the beauty was purged.

      I’m not trying to start any infighting when I make this comment. Neo-Paganism (fans of Stephen McNallen being an exception) is incredibly dildoed and poz’d. That being said, there is very little difference between (((Organized Atheism))), Mainline Protestant Churches, and Wiccan Covens. All celebrate faggotry, feminism, and diversity. Boyd Rice once sang, “Throw out Christ, and bring back Thor”–my fear is that this just brings another “brand” of POZ and does not destroy POZ. Of course, (((certain people))) have taken control of all alternatives to Christianity that would give whites a spiritual home.

  23. Christianity is dumb as hell, and to say its absence leads directly to nine-year-old trannies is extremely lazy thinking.

    There are always more than two dumb options, guys.

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