A panicked opinion:
UPDATE: Transmission of #coronoavirus estimated at 2.6 by another research group (lower than the 3.8 initial reports). But 2.6 is still extremely bad —each infected person will infect 2.6 others. Even the authors admit #CoronaOutbreak containment will be very difficult. Thread: pic.twitter.com/Gg2vyIevL4
— Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) January 25, 2020
18\ New R0 estimate by Imperial College London scientist is 2.6 — with each infected person infecting 2.6 others. This is a really bad cascading value considering we have no vaccine and it comes amidst flu season. Other thoughts here: https://t.co/fzsgNpUoil https://t.co/bbRXhMZU7E
— Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) January 25, 2020
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD – the new coronavirus is a 3.8!!! How bad is that reproductive R0 value? It is thermonuclear pandemic level bad – never seen an actual virality coefficient outside of Twitter in my entire career. I’m not exaggerating… #WuhanCoronovirus #CoronavirusOutbreak pic.twitter.com/6mmxIHL9Ue
— Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) January 25, 2020
9/ …cannot be stopped by containment alone. A 99% quarantine lockdown containment of Wuhan will not even reduce the epidemic’s spread by even 1/3rd in the next 2 weeks. Thus, I really hate to be the epidemiologist who has to admit this, but we are potentially faced with…
— Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) January 25, 2020
10\ … possibly an unchecked pandemic that the world has not seen since the 1918 Spanish Influenza. Let’s hope it doesn’t reach that level but we now live in the modern world ? with faster ??+ ? than 1918. @WHO and @CDCgov needs to declare public health emergency ASAP!
— Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) January 25, 2020
A contrary opinion:
The claim that “we are now faced with the most virulent virus epidemic the world has ever seen” and that the new coronavirus is 8x as infectious as SARS is completely untrue. Even if the R0 were 3.8 that would be nowhere near a record.
— Ferris Jabr (@ferrisjabr) January 25, 2020
Here is some context w/ a range of R0s: pic.twitter.com/mESegkytXr
Twitter:
When the Chinese foreign exchange student starts coughing in class #coronavirus #CoronaOutbreak pic.twitter.com/HhGf7gJ1sd
— Jesus Perez (@Jesus805p) January 25, 2020
Who knows?
When I first heard about this coronavirus outbreak in China, I dismissed it because we have had so many of these scares over the years. Could it be different this time?
I see a lot of people downplaying this by comparing it to how many people die of the flu every year. The difference here is that humans have no immunity to this virus which jumped from bats to humans via the filth of a Chinese wet market in October or November.
Note: This particular coronavirus didn’t come from bat soup. It jumped from bats to humans via a third species.
Before condemning the Chinese for eating bats, dogs, etc., our inhuman “elites” have some pretty sick delicacies themselves. Whether it’s served on a silver platter or not does not diminish its revolting nature. Ortolans may be a tier or two above bats but I still wouldn’t f*cking eat one.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/11102100/Why-French-chefs-want-us-to-eat-this-bird-head-bones-beak-and-all.html
And the ortolan “ritual” sneakingly referenced at the Golden Globes:
youtube.com/watch?v=Ncsio1HCIEo
From Hollywood to European rulers, the ritual exposes some very sick participants.
@Snowhitey The Chinese are shitbags. Anyone who kills/eats dogs and cats are a group white Europeans should have nothing to do with.
I know the Chinese are horrible with their treatment of animals. They often show no conscience even with fellow Chinese. But, my point is that we need to be as just as outraged with our own who violate our beliefs. But, we often don’t even know what’s really going on.
Snowwhitey, you are absolutely correct. The Chinese are a different sort – I do not understand their culture whatsoever especially as it relates to their inhumanity towards animals that we have domesticated as pets/family members. At the same time, we are in no position to judge because our cruelty to animals that other cultures consider sacred is judged the same way. Hunting for Trophies was unheard of. Not to mention the garbage Frankenfood we poison our people with every day, from fast food to snacks to even the pesticide laden, cross-pollinated & mixed breed vegetables that we feed ourselves, and worse – our children. “Judge not, that ye be not judged” Matthew 7:1-3
Angels are often disguised as dogs.
Snowhitey,
It is not so much what other races eat as it is if it is likely to develop into sickness and plague that threaten other societies.
Christina,
I see far too many recalls with our food production. In my youth, it was so rare it practically didn’t occur. You could eat rare meat and there wasn’t a concern. Of course my parents also only bought their meat from two German brothers who owned a local butcher. Supermarket meat was not allowed in our house!
Snowhitey,
Have you ever seen the film “The Freshman?” Well, the story revolves around a cabal of wealthy people coming together to eat either the last of a species or one of less than ten remaining for 20K a plate. It’s a dark comedy.
Here’s the scene where the filthy (in more than one way) rich are shown their ‘delicacy,’ before the chef prepares it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cESolAdBT7A
It’s not difficult to imagine Saudi princes being given White teenage female virgins to defile in a sexual manner. Like a sexual auction.
No, never saw it but watched your link. At least it was a multicultural feast.
No, it isn’t difficult to imagine but I suspect that the Saudis wouldn’t necessarily be alone.
If you’re concerned about catching something there’s yet no vaccine , stock up on viruskillers like iodine, colloidal silver, selenium, etc. I’m not an Alex Jones fan, but his Survival Shield X-3 (the two ingestible forms of iodine plus a nascent form) is awesome, and his Silver Bullet colloidal formula’s pretty good, too. He often has specials on his supplements.
something *for which*
Ed here smells a rat! The ol’ global virus pandemic in the Orient psyop! SARS, Ebola, now the big, bad Coronavirus! Yaaaawwwn! These virus psyops reveal just how dangerous the media is because they SET THE NARRATIVE and the rest of the sheep follow Many like Jon Rappoport have been trying to educate the public about the whole HIV/AIDS scam for years; here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_nDd9sOqLk
More on HIV/AIDS scam here:
http://www.whale.to/b/hiv.html
Here is Rappoport addressing is current Coronavirus:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/01/23/china-virus-epidemic-the-gong-show-on-roller-skates/
Ed at Outer Light always does excellent work here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0hIcbIBwJM
simply nature’s way of dealing with the problem of “human” (esp. Chink, Black)
overpopulation. Don’t worry, be happy.
Much of Africa and the Mideast depend upon supply chains literally for their daily bread, they are huge food importers. This is also true of many other things besides food. An interruption in these long supply chains will lead to havoc in these countries.
We’re not there yet but if this virus mutates to a more lethal form and continues to spread it’s back to the dark ages for these shit hole countries and shit hole cities in the U.S. (Baltimore, Detroit etc.)
The Chinese have screwed up their ecosystems to the extent that they have to individually pollinate fruit and nut trees by using a small fine bristled paintbrush while on top of a ladder. The natural pollinators (bees and birds) have gone extinct due to habitat loss and chemical pollution.
Drumpf with his deregulation of the EPA and department of the interior will put us on the same trajectory as China.
In the film “Contagion,” the last scene of the movie accurately depicts how a transmission route from bats to pigs to humans might occur and lead to a high mortality global pandemic. And yes, the global pandemic comes out of China.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V1HH1-ozS_A
My brothers and sisters love watching Zombie movies. This is unraveling like one except the dead are not coming back.
And, people better have a good supply of food and bottled water. At all times. Otherwise, your risk of infection with any outbreak could jump 100%. And, if it’s dehydrated food, you’ll need additional water to re-hydrate it.
I’d rather be prepared and wrong than unprepared and wrong.
Snowhitey,
Good advice. We always have a lot of sacks of beans, rice etc. just for normal eating. Except for our country houses we have swimming pools for water. Just boil it. My grandmother has a portable water filter she has owned for years. She went through the great depression and never trusts people, government, or situations.
She believes people and reality are usually worse than they appear.
For sure!
“It is better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.”
irate irishman,
Well I never thought of it that way but it makes sense.
Worst comes to worst. Fill your bathtubs with fresh water for cooking, drinking, and sponge baths.
This. If you have not learned the art of canning, watch a video and start now. It’s never too late until it’s too late.
Isn’t it rather difficult for animal borne illnesses to be transmitted to humans?
Depends on the animal and the contagion.
TB transmits from pigs to humans very easily. Feral spanish pigs killed much of the American Indian population by TB transmission.
Hopefully it spreads to Africa.
The geniuses of Wakanda will cure the disease.
lol, oy vey….but we all know if it did spread to the muthafuckalanz the ZOG governments of the west would run right to their aid and bend over backwards for these simian rape apes to continue breeding uncontrollably and populating our world further with more and more useless wogs
Or Hymiewood/DC