“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a fat sheboon twerking atop the ruins of Western Civilization forever.”pic.twitter.com/NHAodVUPXt
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While I was in my pajamas last night, I finally got around to reading C. Bradley Thompson’s defense of the liberal Right at the Claremont Institute.
“The publication of my new book, America’s Revolutionary Mind: A Moral History of the American revolution and the Declaration that Defined It, comes at a crucial moment in American history. Academic study of the American revolution is dying on our college campuses, and the principles and institutions of the American Founding are now under assault from the nattering nabobs of both the progressive Left and the reactionary Right. These two ideological antipodes share little in common other than a mutually-assured desire to purge 21st-century American life of the founders’ philosophy of classical liberalism.
On this point, the radical Left and Right have merged.
The philosophy of Americanism is, as I have argued in my book and elsewhere, synonymous with the founders’ ideas, actions, and institutions. Its core tenets can be summed up as: the moral laws and rights of nature, ethical individualism, self-interest rightly understood, self-rule, constitutionalism, rule of law, limited government, and laissez-faire capitalism. …
Classical and Progressive liberalism are not of the same ideological species. They are natural enemies. The difference between the founders’ liberalism and Progressive liberalism is one of kind and not of degree, whereas Deneen’s critique of the founders’ liberalism actually shares a great deal in common with the Progressive critique of classical liberalism. Like his Progressive and socialist allies, Deneen is opposed to classical liberalism’s advocacy of individualism, limited government, and laissez-faire capitalism. …
Lastly, a word to the young—to those who have been let down or feel abandoned by the cowardice and unmanliness of Conservatism and Libertarianism, Inc.—know this: you have not been abandoned. There is a new generation of intellectuals willing to take up the cause of Americanism.
More to the point, you should know this as well: I will be, to quote William Lloyd Garrison, as “harsh as truth, and as uncompromising as justice” when it comes to defending the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. The principles and institutions of the founders’ liberalism are worth defending because they are true. The reactionary Right is a dead end; it’s a dead end because it’s a lie. You should not let your despair turn you to the Dark Side. It’s time to come home.”
I was unimpressed.
Scrolling through my Twitter feed, I had just written a few articles about the events of the past week: 108,000 dead Americans, 40 million Americans unemployed, the worst race riots since the 1960s, blacks and anarchists burning down Washington, DC and laying siege to the White House, police officers kneeling before the mobs of looters who went on shoot them after dark, White Americans flagellating themselves and doing penance over their nonexistent white privilege, etc.
I’ve processed all of this and have reassessed my worldview. I have concluded that I was right that conservative liberalism is a failure. I have been skeptical of conservative liberalism for almost 20 years now. In my adult life, it has taken us from the disasters of the George W. Bush presidency through the disasters of the Donald Trump presidency. I have witnessed 20 years of unarrested national decline in spite of conservative liberals controlling the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court for most of this period. I don’t believe we just need to spin the merry-go-round and replace a few RINOs.
C. Bradley Thompson lays all of this at the doorstep of progressive liberalism which he believes is a difference of “kind” and “not of degree.” There is just one slight problem with that theory. I will amply quote George Fitzhugh who responded to William Lloyd Garrison on behalf of the South:
“Further study, too, of Western European Society, which has been engaged in continual revolution for twenty years, has satisfied us that Free Society every where begets isms, and that isms soon beget bloody revolutions. …
Now we plant ourselves on this passage from Carlyle. We say that, as far as it goes, ’tis a faithful picture of the isms of the North. But the restraints of Law and Public Opinion are less at the North than in Europe. The isms on each side the Atlantic are equally busy with “assiduous wedges,” in “loosening in every joint the whole fabric of social existence;” but whilst they dare invoke Anarchy in Europe, they dare not inaugurate New York Free Love, and Oneida Incest, and Mormon Polygamy. The moral, religious, and social heresies of the North, are more monstrous than those of Europe. The pupil has surpassed the master, unaided by the stimulants of poverty, hunger and nakedness, which urge the master forward.”
“THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE ISMS – SHEWING WHY THEY ABOUND AT THE NORTH, AND ARE UNKNOWN AT THE SOUTH.
The exploitation, or unjust exactions of skill and capital in free society, excite the learned and philanthropic to devise schemes of escape, and impel the laborers to adopt those schemes, however chimerical, because they feel that their situation cannot be worsted. They are already slaves without masters, and that is the bathos of human misery. Besides, universal liberty has disintegrated and dissolved society, and placed men in isolated, selfish, and antagonistic positions – in which each man is compelled to wrong others, in order to be just himself. But man’s nature is social, not selfish, and he longs and yearns to return to parental, fraternal and associative relations. All the isms concur in promising closer and more associative relations, in establishing at least a qualified community property, and in insuring the weak and unfortunate the necessaries and comforts of life. Indeed, they all promise to establish slavery – minus, the master and the overseer.” …
“In free society none but the selfish virtues are in repute, because none other help a man in the race of competition. In such society virtue loses all her loveliness, because of her selfish aims. Good men and bad men have the same end in view: self-promotion, self-elevation. The good man is prudent, cautious, and cunning of fence; he knows well, the arts (the virtues, if you please) which enable him to advance his fortunes at the expense of those with whom he deals; he does not “cut too deep;” he does not cheat and swindle, he only makes good bargains and excellent profits. He gets more subjects by this course; everybody comes to him to be bled. He bides his time; takes advantage of the follies, the improvidence and vices of others, and makes his fortune out of the follies and weaknesses of his fellow-men. The bad man is rash, hasty, unskillful and impolitic. He is equally selfish, but not half so prudent and cunning. Selfishness is almost the only motive of human conduct in free society, where every man is taught that it is his first duty to change and better his pecuniary situation.”
“The first principles of the science of political economy inculcate separate, individual action, and are calculated to prevent that association of labor without which nothing great can be achieved; for man isolated and individualized is the most helpless of animals. We think this error of the economists proceeded from their adopting Locke’s theory of the social contract. We believe no heresy in moral science has been more pregnant of mischief than this theory of Locke. It lies at the bottom of all moral speculations, and if false, must infect with falsehood all theories built on it. Some animals are by nature gregarious and associative. Of this class are men, ants and bees. An isolated man is almost as helpless and ridiculous as a bee setting up for himself. Man is born a member of society, and does not form society. Nature, as in the cases of bees and ants, has it ready formed for him. He and society are congenital. Society is the being – he one of the members of that being. He has no rights whatever, as opposed to the interests of society; and that society may very properly make any use of him that will redound to the public good. Whatever rights he has are subordinate to the good of the whole; and he has never ceded rights to it, for he was born its slave, and had no rights to cede.”
“Government is the creature of society, and may be said to derive its powers from the consent of the governed; but society does not owe its sovereign power to the separate consent, volition or agreement of its members. Like the hive, it is as much the work of nature as the individuals who compose it. Consequences; the very opposite of the doctrine of free trade, result from this doctrine of ours. It makes each society a band of brothers, working for the common good, instead of a bag of cats biting and worrying each other. The competitive system is a system of antagonism and war; ours of peace and fraternity. The first is the system of free society; the other that of slave society. The Greek, the Roman, Judaistic, Egyptian, and all ancient polities, were founded on our theory. The loftiest patrician in those days, valued himself not on selfish, cold individuality, but on being the most devoted servant of society and his country. In ancient times, the individual was considered nothing, the State every thing. And yet, under this system, the noblest individuality was evolved that the world has ever seen.”
“Why have you Bloomer’s and Women’s Right’s men, and strong-minded women, and Mormons, and anti-renters, and “vote myself a farm” men, Millerites, and Spiritual Rappers, and Shakers, and Widow Wakemanites, and Agrarians, and Grahamites, and a thousand other superstitious and infidel isms at the North ? Why is there faith in nothing, speculation about everything? Why is this unsettled, half demented state of the human man mind co-extensive in time and space, with free society? Why is Western Europe now starving? and why has it been fighting and starving for seventy years? Why all this, except that free society is a failure ? Slave society needs no defence till some other permanent practicable form of society has been discovered. None such has been discovered. Nobody at the North who reads my book will attempt to reply to it; for all the learned abolitionists had unconsciously discovered and proclaimed the failure of free society long before I did.”
There is nothing new about this debate.
George Fitzhugh diagnosed classical liberalism as a disease before progressive liberalism ever existed in the 1850s. In fact, he predicted quite accurately the future course of American history.
“Nothing in the signs of the times exhibits in stronger relief the fact, that free society is in a state “of dissolution and thaw, “of demoralization and transition, than the stir about woman’s rights. And yet it is time to work …
The people of our Northern States, who hold that domestic slavery is unjust and iniquitous, are consistent in their attempts to modify or abolish the marriage relation. Marriages, in many places there, are contracted with as little formality as jumping over a broom, and are dissolved with equal facility by courts and legislatures. It is proposed by many to grant divorces at all times, when the parties mutually consent. The Socialists suggest that the relation should be abolished, private family establishments broken up, and women and children converted into joint stock. The ladies are promoting these movements by womens right’s conventions. The prospects of these agitators are quite hopeful, because they have no conservative South to oppose them. It is their own affair, and we will not interfere with its regulation.
We shall deplore the day when marriage and Christianity are abolished anywhere, but will not interfere in the social and domestic matters of other people. …”
All modern philosophy converges to a single point – the overthrow of all government, the substitution of the untrammelled “Sovereignty of the Individual,” for the Sovereignty of Society, and the inauguration of anarchy. First domestic slavery, next religious institutions, then separate property, then political government, and, finally, family government and family relations, are to be swept away. This is the distinctly avowed programme of all able abolitionists and socialists; and towards this end the doctrines and the practices of the weakest and most timid among them tend. Proudhon, and the French socialists generally, avow this purpose in France, and Stephen Pearl Andrews re-echoes it from America. The more numerous and timid class are represented by Mr. Greeley and the Tribune, who would not “at once rush,” like French revolutionists, “with the explosive force of escapement, point blank to the bull’s eye of its final destiny,” but would inaugurate social conditions, that would gradually bring about that result. Mr. Greeley does not propose to do away at once with marriage, religion, private property, political government and parental authority, but adopts the philosophy and the practices of Fourier, which promise gradually to purify human nature, and fit it, in a few generations, for that social millennium, into which the bolder and more consistent Andrews urges society at once to plunge.
… The other and bolder party, feel themselves “called” as special instruments, to give at once the coup de grace to the old world, and to usher in the new golden age, of free love and free lands, of free women and free negroes, of free children and free men. …
The Socialists promise that when society is wholly disintegrated and dissolved, by inculcating good principles and “singing fraternity over it,” all men will co-operate, love, and help one another.
They place men in positions of equality, rivalry, and antagonism, which must result in extreme selfishness of conduct, and yet propose this system as a cure for selfishness. To us their reasonings seem absurd. Yet the doctrines so prevalent with Abolitionists and Socialists, of Free Love and Free Lands, Free Churches, Free Women and Free Negroes – of No-Marriage, No-Religion, No-Private Property, No-Law and No-Government, are legitimate deductions, if not obvious corollaries from the leading and distinctive axiom of political economy – Laissez Faire, or let alone. …
They hold that all men, women, and negroes, and smart children, are equals, and entitled to equal rights. The widows and free negroes begin to vote in some of those States, and they will have to let all colors and sexes and ages vote soon, or give up the glorious principles of human equality and universal emancipation.
The experiment which they will make, we fear, is absurd in theory, and the symptoms of approaching anarchy and agrarianism among them, leave no doubt that its practical operation will be no better than its theory. Anti-rentism, “vote-myself-a-farm” ism, and all the other isms, are but the spattering drops that precede a social deluge.”
I don’t have much to add to what George Fitzhugh said in Cannibals All! Or, Slaves Without Masters and Sociology for the South, or, The Failure of Free Society. Thomas Carlyle said it all in his Latter-Day Pamphlets which influenced Fitzhugh in the antebellum South of the 1850s:
“To rectify the relation that exists between two men, is there no method, then, but that of ending it? The old relation has become unsuitable, obsolete, perhaps unjust; and the remedy is, abolish it; let there henceforth be no relation at all. From the ‘sacrament of marriage’ downwards, human beings used to be manifoldly related one to another, and each to all; and there was no relation among human beings, just or unjust, that had not its grievances and its difficulties, its necessities on both sides to bear and forbear. But henceforth, be it known, we have changed all that by favor of Heaven; the ‘voluntary principle’ has come up, which will itself do the business for us; and now let a new sacrament, that of Divorce, which we call emancipation, and spout of on our platforms, be universally the order of the day! Have men considered whither all this is tending, and what it certainly enough betokens? Cut every human relation that has any where grown uneasy sheer asunder; reduce whatsoever was compulsory to voluntary, whatsoever was permanent among us to the condition of the nomadic; in other words, LOOSEN BY ASSIDUOUS WEDGES, in every joint, the whole fabrice of social existence, stone from stone, till at last, all lie now quite loose enough, it can, as we already see in most countries, be overset by sudden outburst of revolutionary rage; and lying as mere mountains of anarchic rubbish, solicit you to sing Fraternity, &c. over it, and rejoice in the now remarkable era of human progress we have arrived at.”
The trajectory and endpoint of classical liberalism was known 170 years ago. The principles of classical liberalism are incompatible with order, cohesion, continuity, stability, decency and normalcy. As this system has become coterminous with the West since World War II, it has produced the same result -a perpetual state of social revolution – everywhere it has been implemented. It is a feature, not a bug. Liberalism is flawed in theory and incompatible with natural conservatism in practice.
Note: We don’t even have to consult Nietzsche to realize this. Just turn on your television.
Anyone who works for one of these conservative think tanks like Claremont is committed to maintain the Republican party grift, otherwise they would be forced to get a real job. Nobody under the age of 40 cares about any of this crap.
Some of the things Whites under the age of 40 care about:
-most of them will be broke for life because of liberal capitalism and free trade
-massive college debts they can’t pay off because the jobs they were promised would exist have since been outsourced or staffed by Indian immigrants, both supported by Republican politicians
-half of their childhood friends are dead because free market pharmaceutical companies knowingly got them hooked on addictive opioids, for which Republican politicians chose to let them off the hook
-the town they grew up in has become an unrecognizable Mexican barrio
-unmarried because most of their women have been brainwashed, been driven insane by social media, covered themselves in tattoos, and dyed their hair green
Dart, is the typical under 40 even perceptive enough to care about those things ?
He’s spot on. Unfortunately that’s the case for the majority of young people.
I would say the cutoff for caring about this crap is more like 50 than 40.
“Liberalism is flawed in theory ”
You always go on about liberalism.
Yes, it has major flaws, but any system that has race mixing is doomed. Any degree of race mixing will eventually be catastrophic, even segregation. Segregation still allows too close an association of the races. ( Humans don’t have the iron discipline to maintain segregation.)
PS. I think liberalism would work , if it were racially exclusive, ie Sweden before the 70’s.
It softened them up for the present destruction.
Sweden in the 70s was a feminist hell hole, of which the logical outcome is Sweden of the 21st century.
I said “before the 70’s”
“PS. I think liberalism would work , if it were racially exclusive, ie Sweden before the 70’s.”
And Covid 19 would be a fine disease, if only it didn’t progress from the highly infectious, no physical symptoms phase, to the very painful and requires intensive care to breathe phase.
Failed analogy, no comparison.
Did you not read the passages from Fitzhugh?
Liberalism is the solvent that breaks down and decays society. A philosophy centered on the emancipation of individuals from social ties cannot simultaneously limit the freedom of individuals.
“PS. I think liberalism would work , if it were racially exclusive, ie Sweden before the 70’s.”
– I think pacifism would work, if pacifists were willing to fight the non-pacifists!
– I think tigers could become vegetarians, if tigers didn’t need to eat meat!
– I think pigs could fly underwater, if pigs had wings and scuba gear!
Liberal societies don’t remain racially exclusive for very long, as your example of Sweden amply proves. It’s in the very nature of liberalism to dissolve social bonds, and that includes racial bonds and racial solidarity.
Pajama Boy Nietzscheans…….now that’s a great name for a band.
Liberalism would dissolve any kind of racial exclusivity, IE Sweeden after the 70s.
The flaws of liberalism are systemic though, even in a bubble society they would cause crisis and failure.
It’s just that racial problems kill the fastest. The internal problems of liberal society extend further than that.
“Liberalism would dissolve any kind of racial exclusivity, ”
True.
I suppose it is intrinsic to the concept of liberalism.
My concept of liberalism just doesn’t mesh with some of the above.
Society without government is absurdly unrealistic.
Free love , is just a cheap euphemism for careless sex.
Equality among unequals , is inequality.
The above characterization of liberal is more like insanity.
My concept of liberal is more an openness to concepts .
“My concept of liberal is more an openness to concepts ”
That’s all well and good for an individual engaged in philosophy; it is a disaster when applied on a society-wide level. You can’t have a society that is open to all concepts. There have to be barriers and boundaries otherwise the bonds of society dissolve.
Liberalism has to be subordinated to higher values than mere liberalism itself, and that hasn’t been the case since at least the late 18th century.
Your concept of liberalism doesn’t apply to any form of liberalism in the real world over the past 200 years.
Could it be that the Allied Victory in World War II ended up being bad news for white people everywhere? We need to start asking ourselves this. Particularly in America.
The chessboard is constantly being rearranged. It will happen again and again and again.
It Jordan Maxwell is 100% correct regarding symbolism, perhaps one needs to revisit the term The Human Race. Race toward what and Human as opposed to?
Christine Lagarde of the European Central Bank will be in this. Check out the topics:
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/european-youth-event/en/eye-online.html
Yes !
Probably one of the worst disasters in history.
We fought on the wrong side.
The NS Germans were on to something miraculous, as shown in their achievements.
And the problem here so that you will never convince conservatives like Thompson with arguments like Fitzhugh’s because conservatives believe that individualism and feminism and anti-racism are all good things.
They support the cause but then complain about the effects. It’s obvious that destroying paternal sovereignty over the family in the name of individualism will destroy marriage per se, as we have seen in the USA. What people in previous centuries would consider “marriage,” that is paternal sovereignty over the family, as it was defined for all of Western history up until the 19th century, is now completely illegal in the USA. But that is what conservatives support when they support individualism. The problem is always rooted in this.
The abolition of the family, that they claim will be the result of “socialism,” is already a practical reality under liberal capitalism because families are only held together by mutual consent at any given moment. Ironically, this is what Marx and Engels meant by abolishing the family. They were not opposed to man and woman mutually consenting to be together and calling that marriage, as we have today. They were opposed to marriage as it was defined in Europe at the time, as husbands having power and authority over their wives and families. Believing that it is possible to have strong families based on mutual consent is like believing you can prevent theft or murder by way of mutual consent. We will all just mutually agreed not to steal and kill. It is law without enforcement. But that is the logical outcome of liberalism, because it is based on fundamentally anarchistic premises.
Prophets are either ignored or venomously attacked. As Fitzhugh was the pro-slavery seer, no one will read him. He’s associated with the Great White Evil of US history. Carlyle is still well-thought-of, however, and philosophers of old can always make comebacks with intelligentsia. We should listen to those that have been proven right over time.
Fitzhugh was one of the earliest anti-racists as well. He wanted to enslave both Whites and Blacks.
Most peasants do work as wage slaves. We’re drones on the electronic plantation. We’re slaves of the cultural, educational, political and economic kind.
Hunter, I like this quoted paragraph very well (even though I don’t agree with Carlyle on many things) and I am going to save it: ““In free society none but the selfish virtues are in repute, because none other help a man in the race of competition. In such society virtue loses all her loveliness, because of her selfish aims. Good men and bad men have the same end in view: self-promotion, self-elevation. The good man is prudent, cautious, and cunning of fence; he knows well, the arts (the virtues, if you please) which enable him to advance his fortunes at the expense of those with whom he deals; he does not “cut too deep;” he does not cheat and swindle, he only makes good bargains and excellent profits. He gets more subjects by this course; everybody comes to him to be bled. He bides his time; takes advantage of the follies, the improvidence and vices of others, and makes his fortune out of the follies and weaknesses of his fellow-men. The bad man is rash, hasty, unskillful and impolitic. He is equally selfish, but not half so prudent and cunning. Selfishness is almost the only motive of human conduct in free society, where every man is taught that it is his first duty to change and better his pecuniary situation.”
Re: Warren Harding’s neologism: “normalcy.” Isn’t there a better word to use?
The word Harding was probably thinking of is “normality.”
Dixie lost the hot war, but won the cold war. By the 1920’s, a Southern Progressive was in office and Southern monuments were placed even in Northern cities.
Then Dixie lost the cultural war. Southerners were stockpiling guns while the Judeo-Yankees were distributing televisions.
Now, in 2020, young Southern gals take selfies in front of destroyed Confederate monuments.
Just like last time, you fought the last war instead of the next war. Game over. May as well deal with reality and join the white side.
Televisions? What are you smoking? We won the war on the Internet to elect a Jew puppet in 2016, so your Judeo friends simply bought the Internet and banned us from it.
What are you suggesting? We build our own Internet? How? It is not going to stop rampaging blacks from invading your liberal household in New York.
@Kel
Yep Cali invented the internet while Dixie held the Christian Zionist line. Great job Dixie! Now endorse Fitzhugh white slavery just like you voted Trump! Winning!
Meanwhile the California tech industry was built and run by a bunch of White Liberals who sold their companies to Jews. The White liberals who still own their share of it are the most anti-White of them all. Shitlib Jack of Twitter, and Mr Amazon Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates of Microsoft, etc.
Hipster,
You are the same idiot that claimed with a straight face, that White Liberals are creating a white ethnostate in Anti-Fa controlled Portand. This while they were threatening Whites with physical violence, just for being White.
No one who has read your website for more than six months takes you seriously. You are a subversive Jew.
@Kel
I’m gratified to see how triggered you are, and how you are keeping tabs on me and making up wild stories and lies about me.
Clearly you fear what I have to say, but all I ever do is simply speak the truth. Which you hate.