The Race Question is what places us outside the boundaries of the mainstream. It is what makes us “far right” because we refuse to go along with the stupid taboo that is attached to the issue.
Does race exist? Is there racial variation within the human species?
Yes.
It is plain as day to anyone with two eyes that some groups of humans are more closely related than others. This shouldn’t be controversial. It wasn’t controversial until the wake of World War II when victorious liberals decided to pretend that race doesn’t exist.
Is race socially meaningful? Are racial differences non-trivial?
Consider the fact that more money has been spent on trying to erase racial gaps than on any other monumental project in world history and it has totally and utterly failed. Reflect on the lengths to which our cultural elites have gone to put the issue to rest and where we are at today. My answer is yes. I mean … just look at the data. All you can do is laugh at the folly of White liberals.
To what extent does race matter?
The truth is somewhere in between everything and nothing. Clearly, there are other things that matter (just look at all the culturally degraded White people these days), but that doesn’t mean race is irrelevant and can be wished away. It is just another important aspect of reality.
Is race the basis of identity?
It is for some people.
In my case, race is a facet of my identity. It is one aspect of my identity along with other things like my ethnicity, culture, religion, values and so on. It is one of the things that makes me who I am, but it is hardly the only thing that defines me as an individual. I have a traditional Southern identity. Why is it so hard to just grant that race isn’t nothing?
How important is your racial identity?
This is a distinct question from whether or not race exists.
In our society, the polls unambiguously show that racial identity is more important to non-Whites than Whites, especially to blacks. White liberals also have a negative sense of racial identity. White conservatives are mildly ethnocentric which is the norm across all races. White Nationalists are the most ethnocentric Whites and the polar opposite of White liberals on racial issues.
Do you support a White ethnostate?
I would say that a White ethnostate is an ideal.
The world is better off when it is divided into racially, culturally and ethnically homogeneous homelands. There is less racial conflict. There would also be less racial self hatred which is a huge problem for Whites who blame themselves for the failures of non-Whites in multiracial societies. Unfortunately, our elites are bent on increasing racial diversity and stirring up racial conflict which will result in bitterness, lack of trust and polarization, which are problems which we recognized decades ago.
History hasn’t dealt us a hand in which we have a racially homogeneous White ethnostate. It can still be a goal, an ideal, a target or an aspiration though. I also think a social order which has a racial, ethnic and cultural foundation will prove stronger and more satisfying in the long run than ones which are based solely on income like most neighborhoods in the United States.
Is there something better than a White ethnostate?
I would rank a White ethnostate as a second best option.
Even in a White ethnostate, Whites would still be divided in other ways. Many would not share a common history and culture. While I agree that it could work, it would be even better to have an ethnostate with even narrower criteria for membership or multiple ethnostates to accommodate Whites who have distinct cultural traditions. Some White Nationalists would decry this as “petty nationalism.” I have no desire to be consolidated in some type of ludicrous Aryan Empire though.
Do you hate other races?
No, I don’t.
I’ve always lived in a racially diverse area. I get shit all the time from White Nationalists for not moving away from this area, but I have deep roots here. Some White people are more settled than others. I’m also so familiar with racial diversity than I am honestly numb to it. In an ideal world, we could resort this country in a way that restores the homogeneity that has been lost, but instead we live under liberal capitalist democracy which is organized on the basis of different principles. White liberals are incapable of understanding that you can acknowledge the existence of racial differences without “hating” people on the basis of it or that cosmopolitanism has never been a “normal” way of life.
Thoughts on our current social order?
Supposedly, I am the “far right domestic extremist,” but I would say that I am less obsessed and less focused on race than the “mainstream.” It is just one of the things that I try to write about honestly in a country in which our elites prefer to lie about everything. From my vantagepoint, the “mainstream” is now far more extreme and far more bent on fomenting racial conflict and doing far more to bring that about than anything I am doing. It is regrettable, but we have always believed and said that stomping out Whitey is the logical endpoint of the cult of “antiracism.” We predicted this.
Can you expand on “antiracism”?
It is false.
It is also a religious cult.
It is based on the idea that racial differences don’t exist and that race isn’t meaningful and that racial gaps are the result of White oppression. These deranged people say you are a horrible and evil person for not believing their conclusions are justified based on the evidence.
We’re dealing with people who have a religious mindset. They have faith in “equality.” They want to punish people who are heretics who commit blasphemy and deny their faith. They have to control and police other people because the lie which is at the core of their belief system is incapable of standing up to scrutiny. This is why they are authoritarians at heart because the lie can’t stand on its own two feet.
If racial equality was true, they wouldn’t have to do any of this. We don’t have to bully or intimidate anyone to make our case because the truth and experience is on our side. The failure of the “antiracists” to achieve their goals with total command of the government and culture for generations speaks for itself. Splitting the atom or landing on the moon was relatively simple compared to demonstrating racial equality in an integrated public school in Massachusetts under controlled conditions.
Experience has shown that colonizing Mars, cold fusion or perhaps time travel is more practical than racial equality. Every day that passes in the American public education system shows this is true.
With race comes culture and the White race still has the best culture but it has been subverted over the decades. Left alone we have endless possibilities.
“To what extent does race matter?
The truth is somewhere in between everything and nothing.”
Real close to everything.
That it is. Race is reality. Deo Vindice !
We are being taxed to pay for our own slow tortured execution.
Most normal system raised people and especially Boomers are just to far gone. Ask them “if you take ten African children from the Congo and raise them in a western school will the results be the same as “white children” and you will hear most of the time, “yes”. Race as a biological reality has been replaced by Republican level “we are all part of the human race” feel good nonsense.
What is worse is that whites despite knowing what is obviously going on still push to elevate others above them. After a century and a half of the Metropolitan Opera opening the season with brilliant compositions and works from the masters, last night they opened with the first “new major opera from a black author”. From the clips I have seen it is less European opera and spectacle and more seld righteous monotone gospel hack with an all black cast.
But all the white elites and celebrities showed up for the first time in their lives, dressed in their designer outfits to cheer on their replacement by an inferior product
@ Captain Shill, ” cheer on their replacement “, no sir, our replacement, honest, hard working , white christian, free men, are a big problem, despite the power and wealth, they have, their is still somebody, in this world that is better than the so called elites and that is ,honest, hard working, white christian, free men, that is why this war rages on.
White people have been conditioned to be terrified of racial awareness. Many would rather die than face that reality, because facing that reality means making hard decisions. And, White people have been conditioned to avoid such hard decisions.
For White people, to be racially aware, and actually care about your own people means to be ostracized by the mainstream, and they have been conditioned to view this as worse than death. White people who are going to get reality, already get it; most of the rest are trying hard to pretend they do not. The most vile filth in the world, are the traitors who have sold out their own people.
Most White people would rather piss away what their ancestors built for them, because to stand up means to be called the “R” word. It’s easier to give away the work, blood, sweat, and tears of a thousand generations, than be uncomfortable because you have been called a name.
Time is short, no one is coming to save you, you cannot “vote” your way out of this, and there is nowhere left to run to…
“White people have been conditioned to be terrified of racial awareness. Many would rather die than face that reality, ”
Humans are herd animals.
Most will run with the herd, even if they stampede over a cliff.
@Rob157 “White people have been conditioned to be terrified of racial awareness.”
You never mention jobs. The reason most whites avoid the whole race thing. If your employer were to fire you for any race-related reason, you could find yourself never working again or maybe, only low pay jobs. So it forces you into a silent servitude, so you can survive.
I’m amazed at how many people just don’t get this. It’s economic.
It’s never come closer to being illegal to have racist views, but it’s pretty darn close.
The consequences could ruin you for life.
The race-traitors are the other way, and are lost.
Africans are a different species, not a “race”. Same with Abos. Everyone else is more or less a blend. Shlomos are just inbred which is why they have weird and disgusting gene combinations.
I agree. “Race” means species or subspecies.
I’m not sure that race places us outside the mainstream in what we believe. It’s just that, we talk about it. Jewish control of everything from education to politics and Hollywood has made race realism taboo.
The thing is, minorities are here, they’re not going away, so in the name of community harmony, we just carry on and put up with it. I know that deep down, many are pressure cookers who are raging inside about what is happening, but feel they are just one person who can’t change anything, and struggle to find like minded people.
I knew from about age five that blacks were inferior when our TV’s were bombarded with ads urging us to ‘give generously’ to some useless cause in Africa or Bangladesh so they could drink clean water or go to school.
I don’t find all black or brown individuals unpleasant, but I do know they are different, and have lower IQ.
I realised it as a child, so why wouldn’t I notice it now? It’s something they couldn’t ‘educate’ out of me.
Somewhere, Ricky Vaughn is hugging his knees rocking back and forth repeatedly reminding himself “there’s no such thing as White”.
If there were no differences between the races, they wouldn’t know who Whitey is with absolute certainty.
There is White, and not White. Ingroup and Out.
I wonder if the Oriental and Negroid races are offshoots of the White race, but then mixed with other, now extinct species of human primates when they migrated away from the Balkans and Caucuses tens of thousands of years ago?
Shlomo controls every genetic testing lab and all the companies that supply them now so unless something changes that will never be answered honestly.
Ever notice how Africans have lighter skin on their palms and soles? Could be evidence they were originally lighter skinned and later darkened up due to living in Africa….or mixing with something else.
Chimps and other primates are not dark skinned. They have dark fur – their actual underlying skin is actually the same color as a human Caucasian’s – basically a shade of “flesh” or “pink”. This is true in many fur-bearing mammals.
Primate co-evolutionary species which are actually older hominids than homo sapiens all have that same coloration. Thus proving that black skin is a by-product of environment; since humans lack the body hair and fur of our simian cousins, those of us subjected to equatorial solar irradiation developed darker skin in order to protect our dermal cells from destruction.
So yes, its very likely, based on the evidence, that “blackness” is in fact a localized adaptation , and that all things being equal, there is no reason for being so dark – it’s really only due to the location and the solar minimums encountered there. It has no evolutionary purpose, and certainly isn’t the starting condition for the species.
Chimps and other primates have light skin too (only the fur is dark). Which is a good proof point in the idea that all black skin is an evolutionary adaptation to the environment and not the other way around. Have to remember that homo sapiens isn’t an ancient species – its just the lone survivor. We are the sole remaining member of our genus Homo.
As recently as 300,000 years ago there were 9 homo species, which had dwindled from many dozens over the prior few million years.
The failure to recognize races as sub-species is more political than scientific. It is amusing that the “scientists” always trot out two factoids:
1. The commonality, expressed as a percentage, that humans share with each other and with apes. This is supposed to be impressive to the layman and discourage them from thinking critically about racial differences. Apparently the logic goes like this: We are 99.9% similar to each other, so therefore we are all the same, and secondly, we are all 99% similar to apes so we’re all just big hairy apes anyway.
2. That human races can’t be separate species because we can all interbreed.
To both of these, the response is “So what?”. and “Big deal.” We also share up to 80% of our DNA with cats, mice, and cows. The reason the stats are misleading is because it is the differences that make us what we are, not the similarities. That should be obvious to anyone thinking critically about the issue; clearly what make you YOU and not someone else is your differences. What makes you a human and Fluffy a cat isn’t the 60% of the DNA you share, its the 40% that you don’t. What makes every human unique is the part of the genome they do NOT share with anyone else. So in modern humans, its that .1% difference that is the separation between the races. Which is still a huge amount of genetic information and thus, variation. Contrary to the arbitrary percentage/mathematical label, genetic distance measures two objectively “real world” things: exposure to different environments and the corresponding evolutionary pressures and changes, AND, the degree of admixture. Both of these are dependent factors of time and distance – physical separation.
As for interbreeding, so what? We bred with the Neanderthals, a completely different species and they were only less similar to us by about half a percent – or about 5 times the genetic distance as other modern humans are. So where’s that threshold between species and sub-species exactly? Chimps and bonobos are 99% similar to modern humans, so they have the same genetic distance (one half of one percent) from the Neanderthal genome as homo sapiens do. Chimps and bonobos are about as similar to each other as modern humans and Neanderthals are (actually they are a bit closer) but we still recognize them as different species. And wolves and dogs are the same distance from each other as modern humans are (99.9%) but are different species.
What is made plain by these observations is that very small portions of the genome are amazingly impactful on what an organism actually IS. And that is why racial differences exist, and why they produce measurable effects and matter. It is a discreet pattern of variation, and that is essentially a defining objective threshold for speciation, at least to the extent that one could term it a sub-species. In dogs we would call it a breed. Between dogs and wolves we call it a species. But between humans? The “official story” is “Nope! All the same! Race doesn’t exist, its a social construct!”
I found an interesting sociological definition of species in the Nature magazine – it said that a new species emerges when a population no longer recognizes it as suitable for breeding.
And that is our solution – refusal to be miscegenated thus creates a separate species.
The creative genius of White men is exemplified in our achievements. We’ve created the majority of inventions hands down. Lest we forget this Bible passage that says “ Ye shall know them by their fruits.”
A white will always reproduce a white, never a black.
So the whole “just one human race” is garbage.
Race(species) is everything.
Races are real even though they have fuzzy edges, as do ethnies, tribes and families, where one kind meets another. Ethnocentrism is the natural tendency.
>The truth is somewhere in between everything and nothing.
Why equivocate? — when speaking of averages measured within a racial/ethnic group, and then compared across racial/ethnic groups, it is far closer to everything than nothing — and this is clearly due to differences in genotype.
>more money has been spent on trying to erase racial gaps
After failing comprehensively, NCLB was quietly dropped toward the end of the Obama presidency.
By 2005, practically every analysis of genetic markers demonstrated the biological reality of racial identities.
It had long been possible for physical anthropologists to sort skeletal remains by race with very good accuracy, using only the shapes of skull, jaw, teeth, and bones as guides.
By the first years of the 21st century, it had become possible for forensic experts to do the same thing with DNA, which enabled more accurate identifications of fathers in paternity disputes and in showing police when they have arrested the right suspect, or, sometimes, when they’d nabbed the wrong fellow.
@ Here is where we are, Mathew 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth, but if the salt have lost his savor, where with shall it be salted ? It is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out and trodden under foot of men……………..luke 12:48. To whom much is given, much will be required…………………………,Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord liveth he correcteth, even as a father the son in whom he delighteth…………………. your heavenly father wants you all too know that……………………it’s a beautiful morning out, wishing you all a great weekend…………….
Race doesn’t matter but the White race has to go.
I would answer that while some aspects of race are socially conditioned race itself is not a social construct. In many cases society is a racial construct. A good forensic scientist can tell the ethnicity of the person just by examining a few bones or teeth fragments. I do not belive in a human race. A race is something that breeds true and has distinct traits in common. Instead there is a human species with various sub-species which in many cases is analogous to race. Allow me to rewrite the popular mantra where politics is downstream from culture. A more accurate assessement is culture is downstream from genetics (or democraphy) just as politics is downstream from culture.
“To what extent does race matter?
The truth is somewhere in between everything and nothing.”
The answer is far closer to everything than it is to nothing.
By replacing competent (usually) Whites with incompetent minorities the U.S. Government is conducting the world’s biggest social experiment: can the wogs successfully run an Empire especially in a crisis? So far this question has not been definitively answered, the slide into oblivion has been gradual on a day to day basis. Deterioration is evident everywhere one looks but society is still functioning, for now anyway.
Dementia Joe looks like the catalyst who is speeding up the rate of decay with an open border, Afghan terrorists being brought in, even more Government spending than DJT, Covid authoritarianism and his appointment of mostly colored people to high positions. When Cackling Kamala becomes Mr. President the slide into oblivion will accelerate dramatically answering the question: is the assertion ” . . . All Men are created Equal . . . “ true?
The definitive answer: No. All Men are Not created Equal. The coloreds cannot run a two car funeral, they depend upon the White man for their daily bread. Some Asian societies do well, the exception that proves (i.e. tests) the rule but how well they do without western societies is still an open question.
The disintegration of the U.S. will result in the disintegration of countries all over the Third World that depend upon Western markets, interventions and foreign aid to prop them up. The Third World will return to its natural state once the West collapses; anarchy, a state of nature, “. . . red in tooth and claw . . .”.
Planet of the apes. They are always focused on destroying their environment, and no matter what whites do for them, they never appreciate it, or make it work. Even in countries that never had them as slaves, they do the same guilt trip.
When whites can’t find food or shelter, maybe they will wake up and stop this merry go round.
A white federation to allow states for ideological differences, with buffer states of non white allies who do not wish to live with The Crazy. Viable both at birth and in maturity.