Tucker Carlson: This Is About Attacking Christianity

Identity Dixie ran some good quotes from Robert Lewis Dabney about this yesterday. As with George Fitzhugh, Dabney was fond of observing and anticipating the future course of liberalism.

Identity Dixie:

We must then make up our minds in accepting Women’s Rights to surrender our Bibles, and have an atheistic Government. And especially must we expect to have, presiding over every home and rearing every group of future citizens, that most abhorrent of all phenomena, an infidel woman; for of course that sex, having received the precious boon of their enfranchisement only by means of the overthrow of the Bible, must be foremost in trampling upon this their old oppressor and enemy. Its restoration to authority is necessarily their “re-enslavement,” to speak the language of their party.

This suggests a third consequence, which some of the advocates of the movement even already are bold enough to foreshadow. “Women’s Rights” mean the abolition of all permanent marriage ties. We are told that Mrs. Cady Stanton avowed this result, proclaiming it at the invitation of the Young Men’s Christian Association of New York. She holds that woman’s bondage is not truly dissolved until the marriage bond is annulled. She is thoroughly consistent.”

R.L. Dabney, Women’s Rights Women, 1872

“But now, what will be the character of the children reared under such a domestic organization as this? … when the mother shall have found another sphere than her home for her energies; when she shall have exchanged the sweet charities of domestic love and sympathy for the fierce passions of the hustings; when families shall be disrupted at the caprice of either party, and the children scattered as foundlings from their hearthstone.—it requires no wisdom to see that a race of sons will be reared nearer akin to devils than to men.”

R.L. Dabney, Women’s Rights Women, 1872

George Fitzhugh had a lot to say about it.

“We are gradually dismissing our political prejudice against religion. The Legislature of Virginia, some years ago, passed a law to permit religious congregations to hold land to erect churches on, and at its last session a law was enacted chartering some religious institution. The observance of the Christian sabbath is enforced by law. Ministers of the gospel are recognized as such, incapacitated to hold civil offices and exempted from many civil duties. Oaths are administered on the Bible, and infidels, it is the better opinion, are incompetent witnesses. Marriage in the South is generally a Christian ordinance as well as a civil contract, to be celebrated only by ministers of the Gospel. At the North marriage is a mere bargain, like the purchase of a horse, with the difference, that the wife cannot be swapped off – hence, when they get tired of her, they knock her on the head.

We are not surprised that frequent wife murder should result from their low, sordid, worldly view of the marriage tie, and still less surprised, that with these, and a hundred other ill consequences arising from their sort of marriages, that women’s conventions should be held to assert her rights to liberty, independence and breeches, and that sympathising bachelors in the ranks of the Socialists, propose to dispense with this troublesome and inconvenient relation altogether. In the North, there is a tendency to anarchy and infidelity, in the South to conservatism and stricter religious observation. We should be cautious, prudent and experimental in giving governmental aid to religion. Like fire, if it escapes from our control, it will become dangerous and destructive, – but it is nevertheless like fire, indispensable. A republic cannot continue without the prevalence of sound morality. Laws are useless and inefficient without moral men to expound and administer them.

We have not a solitary example in all history to countenance the theories of our ancestors, that a people may be moral, or that a government exist where religion is not in some form or degree recognised by law. What latitude shall be allowed to men in the exercise and practice of religion, is a question for the people to determine when the occasion requires it. It is best not to lay down abstract principles to guide us in advance. Of all the applications of philosophy none have failed so signally as when it has been tried in matters of government. Philosophy will blow up any government that is founded on it. Religion, on the other hand, will sustain the governments that rest upon it. The French build governments on a priori doctrines of philosophy which explode as fast as built. The English gradually and experimentally form institutions, watch their operation, and deduce general laws from those operations.”

George Fitzhugh, Sociology for the South

“Nothing in the signs of the times exhibits in stronger relief the fact, that free society is in a state “of dissolution and thaw, “of demoralization and transition, than the stir about woman’s rights.  …

The people of our Northern States, who hold that domestic slavery is unjust and iniquitous, are consistent in their attempts to modify or abolish the marriage relation. Marriages, in many places there, are contracted with as little formality as jumping over a broom, and are dissolved with equal facility by courts and legislatures. It is proposed by many to grant divorces at all times, when the parties mutually consent. The Socialists suggest that the relation should be abolished, private family establishments broken up, and women and children converted into joint stock. The ladies are promoting these movements by women’s right’s conventions. The prospects of these agitators are quite hopeful, because they have no conservative South to oppose them. It is their own affair, and we will not interfere with its regulation.

We shall deplore the day when marriage and Christianity are abolished anywhere, but will not interfere in the social and domestic matters of other people.”

George Fitzhugh, Sociology for the South

“Every one who reads the newspapers must have observed that open-mouthed infidelity is never seen or heard in this country except in abolition meetings and conventions, and in women’s rights conventicles. On such occasions some woman unsexes herself, and with Gorgon head and Harpy tongue pours out false and foul execrations against slavery and the Bible, aided by men with sharper tongues and duller courage than the women themselves. To this there is a single exception. One pulpit in Boston is on the Sabbath made a rostrum whence an abolitionist fulminates contention and discord, and stirs up to bloodshed and murder.

Liberty, infidelity, and abolition, are three words conveying but one idea. Infidels who dispute the authority of God will not respect or obey the government of man. Abolitionists, who make war upon slavery, instituted by God and approved by Holy Writ, are in a fair way to denounce the Bible that stands in the way of the attainment of their purpose. Marriage is too much like slavery not to be involved in its fate; and the obedience which the Bible inculcates, furnishes anew theme for infidelity in petticoats or in Bloomers to harp on. Slavery, marriage, religion, are the pillars of the social fabric. France felled them at a blow, and Paris and St. Domingo were crushed beneath the ruins of the edifice which they supported. …”

George Fitzhugh, Sociology for the South

Northern conservative liberalism has followed the course that Fitzhugh and Dabney and Thomas Carlyle and many of its other critics anticipated. Women’s suffrage triumphed. Feminism triumphed. The logic of liberalism and free-market capitalism eventually invaded and eroded the family. Whether it is pornography, incels, abortion, divorce, contraception, low birth rates, childlessness, mental illness, miscegenation, Tinder or OnlyFans, these things are just the downstream consequences. Christianity used to dominate this sphere and sexuality was regulated. It no longer sets the norms. It has gone from being the dominant culture to just another lifestyle over the past 100 years.

20 Comments

  1. It’s about attacking White Fetuses……You won’t see these freaks mutilating an Asian Fetus doll…a black fetus doll….a Mexican Fetus doll…..in effigy….

    The Democratic Party is morphing very rapidly into the party of Mass Murder and Chattel Slavery of the Historic Native Born White American Historic Majority……

    • Interesting that the Roe v Wade ruling occurred at the same time millions of White women were reaching peak fertility.

      • I blame sex drugs and rock n roll culture for the decline in White Female Fertility….Elvis should have been put through a woodchip machine……The Beatles were 4 little girlie boys with long hair….Woodchip machine them…Goldman’s books about Elvis and John Lennon should be considered the gospel truth about these two degenerates….

      • The abortion rate for non-Whites is much higher. If this was supposed to make America less White, it was a colossal failure.

        Abortion was legalized for the reason Hunter keeps saying, because liberals want their sexual freedumb. Where I disagree with him is that I don’t think the current GOP plan of expressing disapproving looks at these people is going to solve the problem of the resulting baby boom among unfit mothers. You’re just going to have more welfare, more juvenile court cases, and more feminist activists eighteen years down the road.

        • We haven’t looked at the impact of wealth redistribution on birth rates. Lakeisha doesn’t have the incentive to abort her child that a lot of people like Greg thinks she does. She gets more money from the government for not aborting

          • Some nonwhites have six, seven, eight or more, with no husband, the baby daddies don’t even stick around. The government agencies never make them get their tubes tied, the reason being, “what if they lose one?”, well, they still have a half dozen. All on welfare and WIC.

  2. Excellent work, I cannot think of a time, when the guiding hand of the southern intellectual is more needed than now, as mr.Dabney and mr.Fitzhugh so eloquently demonstrate………

  3. Sorry, he is not going to make the connection between the hatred of Christ and the Jews, not in a million years.

    The Jews could never abide by the limitations put on them by Christ and his teachings it would mean they would have to act like civilized human beings and that my friends is impossible. The leopard can not change its spots.

  4. > The logic of liberalism and free-market capitalism eventually invaded and eroded the family.

    Mankind is hilariously arrogant, thinking that the noises that come out of their mouths and the scribbles they write on paper – or buttons they type on a computer – matter at all.

    Marriage is a human institution. The feminists are, of course, completely correct that marriage was an economic arrangement between two men.

    When “conservatives” talk about “morality” and the Good Ole’ Days, what they really mean is both when they were naive and didn’t understand reality, and also when economic and material conditions were more favorable to them.

    All old men whine about “the youth these days disrespecting the gods” – that was Greece in 300BC.

    But just like progressives, everyone thinks that the turning point of world history “just happens” to be the very year they were a freshman in college.

    For liberals, everything BEFORE that date was evil and now the Good Liberals are moving society “forward.”

    For conservatives, everything AFTER that date is degeneracy and the Good Conservatives are preserving tradition.

    The apes with big brains are surely amusing to the Creator, who clearly has a sense of humor.

    99% of this “sexual morality” talk is just men complaining that the economic and material conditions do not favor them (they actually didn’t favor them back in the old days either but they see the past through rose colored glasses.)

    Of course – the vast majority of women, just like the men, tend to prefer a more “old fashioned” system. Women like getting married and women tend to very much want “traditional” gender roles in a marriage.

    But my god – not a single one of you people have even the slightest ability to see beyond your own CLASS upbringing.

    1: The lower class man wants to make a slave OF his woman.
    2. The middle class man wants to be a slave TO his woman.
    3. The upper class man provides a slave FOR his woman.

    The “White Sharia” types are lower class men, and the more respectable Christian Southerners are middle class men.

    The upper class men have aristocratic values (i.e., criminal values) and after they get a couple of heirs out of the wife, they provide her with a pool boy because they are too busy having sex with their younger mistresses. (Or second, or third, wives.)

    THAT is actual “tradition.” Your middle class white American Christian sexual ethnic is a middle class pretension.

    There is nothing wrong with – and a whole lot right about – middle class sexual ethics. But at least be aware WHY that is your moral compass – it is because that system benefits you.

    If you were rich and powerful you’d have young mistresses too. But you aren’t – you can barely get a wife – so you fall into category one – you want to make a slave of your woman – and once you finally do get a wife, you will move into category two and brag to your friends about how devoted you are to your Bride and gave up the fishing boat to buy her a new car because you just love her so much and want her to be happy, as the selfless Christian husband you are.

    Believe me – EVERYONE can see it except for you.

  5. The war against Christianity is 2,000 years old and will continue without respite until the end of time. Everyone must choose sides. Look at those being attacked and by whom, Christ vs. anti-Christ, explicitly too. Their hatred is not hidden, it is on full display, proudly, too.

    There is nothing new under the sun.Eccl 1:9

  6. Typical Tucker;up to his old tricks; Christians are good people and Christianity is nonviolent. He says with a straight face. Code it’s Muslims pro abortion activists should be ganging up against. Christianity gave us western civilization its values. All anti Muslim propaganda. His grievance is that pro abortion activists are not going after mosques,. That is what his whole spiel is about; his hatred of Muslims/Islam. But he himself only calls abortion “a tragedy” and has never said it should be outlawed at any stage. Instead he says what they all say; let the states decide. and if its abortion on demand at any stage, he’s good with that!

  7. Northern conservative liberalism has followed the course that Fitzhugh and Dabney and Thomas Carlyle and many of its other critics anticipated. Women’s suffrage triumphed. Feminism triumphed. The logic of liberalism and free-market capitalism eventually invaded and eroded the family. Whether it is pornography, incels, abortion, divorce, contraception, low birth rates, childlessness, mental illness, miscegenation, Tinder or OnlyFans, these things are just the downstream consequences. Christianity used to dominate this sphere and sexuality was regulated. It no longer sets the norms. It has gone from being the dominant culture to just another lifestyle over the past 100 years.

    There is nothing surprising about this and we were even blessed with men of foresight who saw it coming even back in the 19th century. Prophets who were ignored. We can’t say we had no warning. The rot is not confined to the north either. It’s just a bit more obvious there (as in the EUSSR). And so the wheel of fire turns upon America as it did upon Russia a century ago.

    To quote from Solzhenitsyn:

    “Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia:

    ‘Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened.’

    Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our (Communist) revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat:

    ‘Men have forgotten God; that’s why all this has happened’.”

    Murika is every bit as post-Christian as the EUSSR is. The great falling away is just more obvious over there. The old churches are empty, being converted to mosques by the hordes of invaders brought in by their Satanic elite or simply torched altogether. Here we have doctrines of demons masquerading as Christianity, whether it’s negro-worship from the SBC, witches-coven mainline Protestant abominations or slimy televangelists shilling for the Judeo-Christ skinsuit of Satan – urging wars upon Christian people from Iraq to Russia. With Vatican II’s total apostasy, the Catholics are no better and suffer from all of the same ills throughout the west down into Latin America. We haven’t even hit bottom yet. Yet there is always hope. Notre Dame was burned down in Paris, but a new cathedral was being built in Moscow – formerly the epicenter of atheism. As it is written, the gates of hell will not prevail.

    • This is just the Christian equivalent of “the Soviet Union wasn’t true communism, true communism has never been tried.” If the Catholic, evangelical, and mainline protestant churches are all rotten, you shouldn’t be surprised that a lot of young people are deciding they want nothing to do with Christianity and that they’re going to be pagans or atheists.

  8. Not surprised at all. Don’t much blame them either for as noted that which calls itself Christianity is a basically a fraud in the west now. Atheists are overwhelmingly members of the Church of Woke – despite lying insistence they believe in no god. As for paganism, western pagans are merely larpers. Kind of like an SCA faux-religion.

    • Christians just won’t ever call the tribe out on what they do. They think they are sinless, the chosen, and God will punish them for not worshipping the tribe.
      There are preachers who are so bad, they actually tell the flock that the tribe “is better than you”.

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