Charlie Kirk: Democracy Is a Bad Idea

November 1, 2022 Hunter Wallace 2022 Midterms, Conservatism, Politics, Populists, Progressives 42

Hail Charlie Kirk!

Hail our people!

Hail victory!

Seriously though, we are on the same page now.

I have repeatedly described myself as a small-r republican in the Jeffersonian-Jacksonian tradition. This is tantamount to “fascism” to libtards who have no familiarity with American history.

Note: As a “fascist,” my top two issues are abolishing the FBI and ending our support for the stupid war in Ukraine. Meanwhile, these people have the government censoring the internet!

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  1. A democracy killed Christ.

    22 “What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked. They all answered, “Crucify him!”
    23 “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”

    • The local powers-that-be stirred up a crowd to cheer for release of their hero Barabbas. Judea wasn’t democratic then, and it wasn’t democratic before the Romans conquered it either.

  2. “Democracy Is a Bad Idea.”

    Most certainly – particularly with the idea that the Modern Democrats have of importing voters from all over the world – even the graveyards and fiction novels.

    Thank God for the Founding Fathers having had the idea of a Constitutional Republic.

    Without that, we would not have a fighting chance against those powers which have shown themselves to be so expert at usurping centralized power.

    • “Thank God for the Founding Fathers having had the idea of a Constitutional Republic.”

      You stole my thunder …………*pfttt*

      • I still think Dr. North had the correct idea. In his ‘Political Polytheism’ he was at great pains to point out the secular, almost JUDAIC nature of the ‘Founding Fathers’ in their hatred for the Christian Constitutions that undergirded almost all colonies, prior to the nation’s founding. Some relevant quotes:

        Speaking on Article VI, Clause 3 of the apostate covenant document known as the Constitution: “…If there be no religious test required, (of citizens, and people in public office) pagans, deists, [Jews] and Mahometans might obtain office among us, and that the senators and representatives might all be pagans.” [Henry Abbot, N.C. Ratifying convention, 1780’s] A prophetic voice, indeed! But it was not heeded.” – G. North, Political Polytheism, p. 390-91.

        “And so, there was ‘from the beginning’ [ I John 1:1] an inevitable civil war between Christ and Caesar. Church and State. This war was eventually won by the earthly representatives of the ascended Christ. Christians finally replaced pagans in the offices of civil authority.

        This ‘Constantinian settlement’ still outrages and embarrasses political polytheists in the modern Church: fundamentalists, pietists, neo-evangelical liberals, and Christian college professors, everywhere. They much prefer to see pagans occupy the seats of civil authority, so the example of Constantine offends them. They prefer a contemporary political polytheism analogous to that of the Roman Pantheon, either because they secretly worship the messianic monotheism of the State (political liberals, humanists, and some neo-evangelicals) or because they refuse to acknowledge that statism is always the political manifestation of polytheism (fundamentalists, Lutherans, most Calvinists, and any remaining neo-evangelicals). Like the Hebrew slaves in Egypt, they prefer rule by polytheistic taskmasters in the service of a [sic] divine State…”… It is time to begin making plans for the conquest of Canaan.”
        – Gary North, PhD, “Political Polytheism,” (1989) p. 536-7.

      • @ARRIAN…

        Sorry to do that.

        Hopefully it was everyone’s thunder here, as, in the face of such central-governmental megalomania – not just here but around the world – what else can one think but Confederate thoughts?

        The Founding Fathers told the Federal government to do 3 things : defend the borders, manage courts, to resolve state disputes, and place sufficient tariffs on imports to make sure American Business is not undermined.

        The first and the last they do not do – the middle one they do do, though, they pervert it to use it to usurp state sovereignty.

        Fortunately, The Founding Fathers also gave us a divided system – they knowing full well that divided power is much much harder to overcome than that which is not.

        Either that or an autocrat like Vladimir Putin, who has the power and who knows how to use it in defence of his country, is what it must be.

        Nothing in-between will work.

        As it stands, our systems is, as you know, largely rotted out at the core.

        The ability of states to govern their own elections, and, ultimately, to secede if they wish, is the last defence against today’s prevailing tyranny.

        All the best to you!

  3. “my top two issues are abolishing the FBI and ending our support for the stupid war in Ukraine. Meanwhile, these people have the government censoring the internet!”

    The U.S. does not merely “support” the war in Khazarkraine. The U.S. WAGES it. The decades-long operation against Russia in Khazarkraine is only one part of the U.S.’s long-running hybrid war against Russia, that is also being waged in the Caucasus, and Central Asia, and through Japan (Sakhalin and Kurile islands dispute) and in space, and media (information warfare) and other ways and places.

    It is a fantasy to believe or suggest that the U.S. could ever “end our support for the war in Ukraine.” Imperialist war is necessitated by the very nature of the system. It is existential. You won’t ever change that fact, that reality, by voting harder and “wiser” in its rigged (s)elections.

    • “… You won’t ever change that fact, that reality, by voting harder and “wiser” in its rigged (s)elections….”

      This is not true. The House and the Senate can make rules with a majority vote that sets the rules for elections and who can be voters.

      The Constitution provides that…

      Article I, Section 5, which provides “Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members …”

      So they can set up a system that demands secure voting. Maybe there would still be some theft but it would be greatly curtailed and if it got too bad they could refuse to seat any members from dirty districts and we could carry on ruling without them at all. The Democrats actually did this when they had total power after Nixon was run out of office. So there’s president. Here’s some rules that could be put in place.

      1. Limit the vote to over age 25 unless a member of the armed forces. I like that one.
      2. No one on welfare able to vote.
      3. They could rescind all court decisions on regional based Senates in the States.
      4. Make it where only people registered to vote six months before elections could vote.
      5. Make sure all the elections are hand counted with a picture of every single ballot is taken and uploaded to the internet while it is being counted. Make sure that all voter roles are uploaded to the internet six months before the elections, with no more names added or any voters after this. This would vastly cut down on fraud. Make sure balanced party and independent poll watchers are present, or have all votes invalidated.
      6. No immigrants can cast any votes in Federal elections.

      We don’t have to put up with the pozzed system we have. We can legally change it to suit our needs.

    • @METHYR…

      “The U.S. does not merely “support” the war in Khazarkraine. The U.S. WAGES it. The decades-long operation against Russia in Khazarkraine is only one part of the U.S.’s long-running hybrid war against Russia, that is also being waged in the Caucasus, and Central Asia, and through Japan (Sakhalin and Kurile islands dispute) and in space, and media (information warfare) and other ways and places. ”

      Unfortunately, every single word and idea you have here is 100% true.

      When they realized that using Afghanistan to flood Russia with narcotics was not working well enough, they left it and converted their covert military operations in Ukraine to more aggravated and overt – increasing that area as a crisis point – that which was intended from 1991.

  5. Duh.

    And there’s a reason women were not allowed to vote through most of this country’s history.

    link — One thing I’ve learned is that only a small proportion of people are capable of having certain conversations. And thus when conversations become more public, they become more stupid. An audience might be the greatest enemy of reason.

    He’s talking mainly about academia, especially difficult/controversial topics like behavioral genetics and the heredity nature of intelligence — everyone can see how discourse about these topics has been emotionalized and politicized as more people have gotten involved (e.g. James Watson) — now extrapolate that to election day decision-making in a one man, one vote system, where every idiot has a say.

    • >And there’s a reason women were not allowed to vote through most of this country’s history.

      Or hold positions of authority, e.g. the Grutter v Bollinger ‘only 25 more years’ midwit Sandra Day O’Connor was the first female SCOTUS judge — it hasn’t gotten any better from there:

      link — In a discussion over affirmative action, Sotomayor ironically shows she doesn’t know the basic difference between “de facto” and “de jure.” … It’s not a slip of the tongue, they go back and forth, Alito tries to correct her and she proceeds to make the same mistake.

      A stupid woman who cannot think rigorously and will emote her way thru every opinion.

      • A stupid woman who cannot think rigorously and will emote her way thru every opinion.

        As I was saying (follow the link for context): Makes you want to cry…

        And note the idiotic replies, some of them from simping, emasculated men.

        Unless women are constrained and the culture de-feminized, this country is doomed.

        It would also be helpful to understand why testosterone levels are steadily declining — at this point it makes more sense to give men testosterone than waste it on transgenders.

        • Universal suffrage is an idiots delusion, allowing the illiterate to vote and those who won’t even buy a patch of dirt. What sense or responsibility can they bring to the ballot ?

          • Re: “allowing the illiterate to vote and those who won’t even buy a patch of dirt. What sense or responsibility can they bring to the ballot?”

            They have just as much right to vote as the “noble” and “wise” propertied class do. That reminds me an old song, “The Land,” sung by radical Welshmen. The chorus:

            “Why should we be beggars with a ballot in our hand?”

  6. Wanting to abolish the FBI, and thus making life more easy for Russian and Chinese spies, as well as surrendering to Russia on Ukraine, is the type of small minded thinking that was also saw during the time before the US entered the Second World War. For a short period of time that course can be advantageous but in the long run this will diminish the position of the US, and the West in general, against Asiatic dictatorships. Surely Andrew Jackson would not support such a policy?

    • Why on earth would we support the FBI which classifies us as “domestic extremists” and which has harassed us for decades and has been even further weaponized by Joe Biden against us?

      What the hell does Donbas, which is a place that virtually no one here had ever heard of a year ago, have to do with people who live in the Western hemisphere? Why is this place our problem? When exactly did Donbas become so vital and important to people who live in the United States that it is worth doubling the price of gasoline and cratering the economy and risking a nuclear war over?

      If Russia is such an enormous existential threat to the West, then why doesn’t the EU have the capacity to defend its own borders against Russia? Why is the EU so reliant on Russian energy? The EU by itself is more than a match for Russia in both the size of its economy and population.

      As for Andrew Jackson, he had good relations with Russia. That’s when Russia owned Alaska and controlled Finland and much of eastern Europe. Russia today can’t even conquer Ukraine. Russia is weaker today than it has been in centuries.

      There is no reason for us to be at odds with Russia. We have no ideological quarrel with Russia like we did in the Cold War when the Soviet Union was committed to spreading communism across the world. Russia doesn’t pose any economic threat to the United States. We have nothing at stake in who rules war torn, impoverished provinces in eastern Ukraine. Russia couldn’t conquer Poland or the Baltic states even if it wanted to and it has no desire to do so. The only threat posed to us by Russia is the chance that delusional Western liberals driven by mad by ideology might start a war over something as abstract as the fate of “democracy” in Ukraine.

      • “There is no reason for us to be at odds with Russia. We have no ideological quarrel with Russia like we did in the Cold War when the Soviet Union was committed to spreading communism across the world.”

        But if “us” and “we” refer to the people actually in power in the West, then there is indeed an ideological quarrel with Russia, which is resisting “our” commitment to spread “democracy” across the world.

        I don’t think I need to expand the meaning of the word “democracy” as “we” use it. I’m sure the readers here know exactly what it means.

      • Russia poses a “threat” to the Zionists and globalists because of Putin’s moderate pro-Russian nationalism. Because of Putin the Zionists cannot remove Assad from Syria, nor can they establish a Khazar State in the Ukraine. And the globalists cannot exploit Russia economically like they did under Yeltsin. Therefore Putin is crazy, dangerous and, worst of all, Another Hitler™.

      • Thanks for the response. I certainly agree that Europe should do more, especially in terms of military support. The reluctance of Germany to take on a bigger role, always with a reference to the previous century, is highly frustrating.

        • I’m highly allergic to foreign interventions.

          If you were an American, you would probably be too after 20 years of this and adventures all over the globe all of which turned into slow rolling disasters that are nearly impossible to end.

    • “Small minded thinking that was also saw during the time before the US entered the Second World”

      ‘Small minded thinking ‘ that would have kept us out of war and allowed the NSDAP to totally crush communism. Allowing the NSDAP to show us a path to higher civilization.

  7. “extrapolate that to election day decision-making in a one man, one vote system, where every idiot has a say”:

    The Chinese model includes both meritocracy and universal participation, all under one-party leadership/guidance/protection that is also meritocratic. Real, direct democracy, including all citizens, of all levels of intelligence, exists in China on the local level, and it works very well. You might want to read Godfree Roberts’ book: “Why China Leads the World: Talent at the Top, Data in the Middle, Democracy at the Bottom.”

    • >Godfree Roberts

      I’m familiar with Roberts — I used to read him on the Unz site; I’ve left comments on some of his articles there (link) — I take most of what he says with a grain of salt; he’s too much of a cheerleader for China (although I do admire what the Chinese have accomplished in the last few decades).

      • It appears that Red China does not want to militarily conquer the world the way that Britain and the US did. They want to be its landlords.

    • Democracy leads to chaos and disorder, which then leads to left-wing tyranny, which is what we have now.

  10. You can argue about how government should function, but I don’t think very many people on the alt right would argue against that the United States worked better at just about every level when it was mostly a European American society. Importing loads and loads of sub normal types hasn’t helped anybody except a few rich people, the oligarchs walling themselves off from the rest of society, gated communities, private schools, then Ivy League universities..

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