Secular Talk: The Gestapo Is Here

February 26, 2025 Hunter Wallace Conservatism, Immigration, Politics, Populists, Progressives 33

This would be awesome.

In order to achieve mass deportations, we are essentially going to have to create a new organization out of ICE. The current organization with like 6,000 agents is too small to carry out this political mandate.

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  2. Eric Prince is a deep state swamp creature, if there ever was one.

    The private financialization for profit of deportations was exposed right after Cyrus II was elected.

    POS Eisenhower didn’t need to outsource deportations of Mexicans during “Operation Wetback” that sent 1,000, 000 back to Mexico, after the Korean War ended.

    • That was a different world. The FBI and military were not completely corrupted back then. Both are worthless now – filled with woketards, traitors and parasites of every kind imaginable.

      Bad as it is (very bad indeed), it might be necessary to employ contractors. Hell the enemy has been using contractors of all kinds to aid and abet the invasion for decades now.

  5. Law of unintended consequences:

    I’m all for mass deportation, but the massive immigration has been an economic boom . Illegals pay rent, buy cars, furniture, clothing. The continuous influx of illegals had a cascading effect on higher prices, especially rents and home prices.

    Just be prepared for a less robust economy and potential recession. Illegals were an amphetamine to the economy. When you cut the supply, your goin’ come off the high.

    • No, it has not been an economic boom for anyone apart from the oligarchs and various parasites who benefit from the rivers of fake-money created to pay for the whole mess. Migrants are a net loss – especially low-skill, low wage ones. Then there’s the whole H1B indentured-servant racket and its vast infrastructure of parasitism.

      • I agree, they are a net loss.
        I’m addressing the a short term, artificial impact, immediate Corp. profits, landlords and such.

        Illegals, like deficit spending, create artificial prosperity.

    • @United,
      You’ll still have 300 million people in your country. I think you’ll be ok once the adjustments are implemented.
      When you quit alcohol, the body eventually learns to not rely on it, and make do again.
      The pros outweigh the cons.

      • Agree

        (Although long term alcoholism can wreck a body. I think America has suffered permanent damage also, we have too many citizens that are aliens, too many mixed people etc. There is permanent damage to America’s racial stock.)

    • Contradiction there. They drive up the prices of everything, for you and me. I’d much rather have fewer people and less inflation.

      • Yes, but I’m just address immediate consequences, quarter by quarter as wall street thinks.

        Long term, the expulsion of illegals will be good, but Americans don’t think long term.

    • “Conservatives want to save their money. National Socialists want to save their race.”

      – George Lincoln Rockwell

    • Cheaper housing is a GOOD thing. Higher wages are a GOOD thing

      They enable affordable family formation.

      Higher housing costs are a BAD thing. Lower wages are a BAD thing.

  6. More than physically removing people, which should absolutely be done en mass, the government is in the unique position to create the environment and conditions that encourage people to leave on their own, effectively self deporting. This is the way in which the mass deportations can be done most effectively and efficiently.

    I’m in favor of the deputization of private contractors to scale up the effort. Nobody currently in government has any incentive to come up with innovative solutions to anything. Realistically it will take a year or more for Trumps cabinet just to gut and reform their departments to a point they can do anything effectively. A turnkey private organization that can be stood up and empowered will be more agile, and it should be done.

    If a secret police must exist, we must control it. Otherwise it will be weaponized against our interests. This is an unambiguous reality of where we are. I’m not interested in libertarian or conservative arguments against it until those people making the arguments present me with a solution that will accomplish the goals the president was elected for with a national mandate.

    In the absence of that alternative, I will assume the arguments are being made in bad faith.

  7. “Illegals pay rent, buy cars, furniture, clothing ” true, very true, United states of Aipac and along with that, they dilute thee American gene pool, they overload our hospitals, add to an over populated prison system, create even more problems in our school systems, add to the CRIME epidemic, so many American communities suffer from, they despise founding stock America, murder, rape and rob our citizens, I could go on and on and on, we have enough problems and problem people, if other nations are truly nations, then they ought to provide for their own ……. They resent and refuse to learn our ENGLISH language ……. What next GROOMIMG gangs in the USA, don’t want to be mean and ugly about it all, but our obligation is to GOD and ourselves ……. Charity starts at home ……. But do not be surprised, if they come out of left field, with a pathway to citizenship, for military age Illegals, who would serve in the military …….. If we want our REPUBLIC back, now is not the time to let our guard down …….

    • @Terry Smith,

      ” But do not be surprised, if they come out of left field, with a pathway to citizenship, for military age Illegals, who would serve in the military.”

      That was already suggested on the US Senate floor by Chuck Shumer and Dick Durbin a few years ago.

      Trump is a civic nationalist, so he might offer illegals of military age to join his ‘big, beautiful armed forces’ in exchange for citizenship. That would be a terrible idea imo.

    • Agree with you on every point.
      Illegals are a great harm.

      I was just talking about an immediate economic impact, nothing else.

      Long term, it’s very good to get rid of illegals. I was just talking about immediate short term consequences, like a year or two.

  8. In the end this will be a huge stupendous increase in productivity. All farming will robotize extensively. This will boost robot manufacturing and productivity over all. Some people forget, or never knew, but the original colonies were severely lacking in personal. This pushed automation, steam engines, water mills any and all ways to cut cost. It’s part of what made us a great country. We were the first, I think, to automate as much farming as we could within the tech parameters that we had.

    It will be stressful at first but for working class people it will raise their wages a good deal or until everything is robots which will happen, illegal aliens or not. I think it very likely that it will cut cost for the middle class a lot. The wealthy are not paying for all the cost of the aliens. They push this all on the middle class in reduced wages and all the cost of the welfare State that they do not pay. Their taxes are indexed at a lower rate because they can write off most everything and the rest file lower rates as capital gains. Paying WAY less than the average person percentage wise.

    • Most farm labor isn’t illegals. They are Guatemalan Indians on temporary work visas.
      Most Mexicans won’t stoop so low , as to do field labor.

  9. First off, I want to say I have mad respect for Eric Prince. We’ve had the same line of thinking for a generation. So much that, back at the turn of the century, he sent one of his top lieutenants to recruit me to join his newly formed training camp in North Carolina. I was already committed to another position so I had to pass. C est le vi. I say this because Eric Prince is a confirmed Papist. Not only a Papist but a Papal knight. He is a member of another organization I have much respect for the Catholic Knights of Malta. We both had ideas of using such organizations to form Christian military contractor organizations to fight the jihadis. His Private Miltitary Contractor bounty force is just another iteration of this idea. But it’s not enough and will waste alot of money.

    I say the above, because, Eric Prince is clearly trying to grift off the failures of the Federal government and especially the Trump Administration to get itself in order. A 10,000 special response force isn’t going to successfully carry out the largest deportation in American history. It certainly can help on the legal logistical side, but not enough manpower to execute it. Even if it increased 10 fold, it might make a dent but at such extreme cost as to be retarded. All of these ideas, including Prince’s have one thing in common, a complete under estimation of the problem.

    But, this huge problem can be overcome. What we need is just simply using pre existing authorities and deploying them under the constitutional prerogatives of the Executive. Firstly, the President needs to declare a State of Invasion has occurred. Second, he needs to declare that a State of Insurrection exists in various Blue State and local areas. Thirdly, he needs to create a boots on the ground operation to restore American authority. All of these used together would bypass rules and regulations regarding arrest, detention, transportation, court procedures, and deportations, thereby enabling the rapid deportation and restoration of American authority necessary to Make America Great Again.

    What needs to be done to kick start this are two types of declarations. Declaring a State of Invasion has occurred gives the Administration the pretext to declare martial law on the US border and other areas where the invaders have occupied large swaths of America. This immediately circumvents civilian courts and habeas corpus rules of civil procedure. Eric Prince’s idea is probably best integrated at this level as it will provide the martial law court superstructure and legal expertise and court investigation and logistical teams necessary to execute the courts orders. The lower levels of this martial court would be carried out by military JAGs and Judges, Provost Mashals, and MPs, who are already prepared to expertly handle the process now carries out by the often corrupt so called “immigration judges.”

    Declaring a State of Insurrection in Blue States and localities impacted by foreign occupation gives the pretext to immediately take over the law enforcement and civil court functions of those areas. If they resist and refuse to obey the orders of Federal officers people like Letitia James and her counterparts at the NY State and NYC level would likely do, they would be arrested. Again, here Eric Prince’s idea could come into play by providing the force multipliers at the court level to begin filling in those places vacated by such arrests or more likely resignations.

    The hard part is now the boots on the ground. Prince’s, Holdaman’s, even Trump’s idea of using ICE, the FBI, or some similarly small contractor force, is ridiculously out of line with reality. Resistance against any level of Trump’s policy is going to escalate. Whether thru the usual law enforcement measures now being implemented or under my emergency and war contingency levels, the Trump Administration is going to need to be respond with more escalation. The Left is prepared to escalate up the escalation ladder. Clearly, Trump isn’t.

    At some point, Trump will have to declare a State of Invasion and Insurrection. There is no Federal law enforcement force able to handle that contingency. In fact, we don’t want one. Such a Federal law enforcement force would never go away, simply because its law enforcement. It would be continued threat to our liberites. In contrast, Declaring States of Invasion and Insurretion are just that, states of operations. They are conditional and eventually go away thru victory or defeat. In turn, they are best prosecuted by military not Law Enforcement.

    In the past, especially between 1790-1877, the US Federal and even State governments routinely made use of these powers and used both regulars but usually militia forces to executive them. To give a semblance of civil authority, these forces were usually commanded by a small team of Marshals, whether Federal or State. This nimble use of State and Federal authority was enough to maintain law and order with a relatively small civil and law enforcement service, but it consistently requires the use of military force to back it up.

    For example, George Washington and his appointed US Marshals led the largest army in US history since the Revolution and before the Mexican War to enforce the Whiskey Tax on my ancestors. Likewise, US Marshals and regular army and militia troops were used to remove the ancient Indian enemies of my people, the so called 5 civilized tribes out of our backdoor areas. US Marshals and military forces were used to suppress riots and insurrection in major metropolitan areas on numerous occasions from 1840-1890s, with the biggest being the so called Draft Riots of 1863 in NYC.

    That insurrection came to a head after nearly 20nyears of foreign invaders and patriot guardians fighting it out on the street. During the Civil War, which superseded these smaller civil wars up north, the 1863 Draft Riots werent put down for days and not until entire US Army regiments amd gunboats mowed down hundreds and hundreds perhaps thousands of people. Waiting to stop foreign immigration didn’t work out well. That was when the old Antebellum Republic died in the North. Given the perilous state of our county, and the actor ready to battle, we will likely see the end of Post-War Liberal America in violence as well.
    https://youtu.be/1Rv3h2-RJes?si=xvUEx9LOQnRhuf7a

    I’ve been an observer, collector, witness, to several such large riots both here and abroad. They are pretty dangerous and overwhelming. We must assume that such events will take place in America but on a much larger and vaste scale as the Trump Administration attempts to restore American control across the country. It will need not 10,000 mixed force of legal and paramilitary contractors. It will need a large force of regular and national guard troops, led by US Marshals, and aided by a rapidly deployable court.

    A minimum of 10,000 specially appointed US Marshals who will be aided and abetted by around 20,000 of such a private contractor force is the way forward. A formation of such Marshals could create the mobile courts to process and deputize upwards of 120,000 law enforcement and paramilitary trained deputies to execute hits writs. In turn, the Marshals and Deputies would embed within teams of 360,000 regular and national guard troops. This force could rapidly clean up the illegal alien colonies and their Blue State political crime bosses and criminal syndicates. Another force of 300,000 troops along the US Mexican border and another 100,000 along the US-Canadian border would bloc any intervention by Cartels, guerrillas, special forces, or regular troops from intervening into the US from Mexican or Canada.

    Currently, there are 45,000,000 illegal aliens, 12,500,000 illegal alien children, score of million of anchor babies. You are not going to ICE, Law Enforcement, or Paramilitary Contractor your way out of this. Not with 60,000 ICE agents. Just the processing alone by ICE standards would stymie any effort more than 2,000 a day. It will require months and months of recruitment and months and months of training to create a large enough ICE force. It will take months and months more of intelligence and investigation gathering to find the evidence to round up the illegal aliens in the interior. It will take years of building detention facilities and years of court actions to legalize new regulations allowing for this deportation force to operate. By then the Democrats will win Congress and the Presidency strangling it in its crib.

    Additionally, the Left and its globalist allies have a large number of cartels, mafias, gangs, terrorists, gunmen, spies, saboteurs, and covert agents primed to resist restoring American sovereignty. Trump can start with a meager 10,000 Prince Contractors, backed by 6,000 ICE agents and 25,000 Border Patrolmen and 10,000 FBI Special agents and the left will simply escalate to mass civil resistance and even political rebellion. They are prepped to escalate. The Trump Administration is not. 

    This is the fact of the state of condition and the array of forces now prepared to resist America. A large portion of the US is already occupied by foreign colonists, foreign interests, and criminal syndicates. Restoring American control will require aggressive measures. It will either result in Trump’s quick defeat or escalate to ever greater amounts of violence. The Trump Administration and his supporters need to get prepared to rapidly escalate on its own and overwhelm any response. A 10,000 private military contractor force isn’t going to cut it, except line Prince’s pockets.

    • Can’t argue about a single word of this one. It will require a combination of declaring an invasion and insurrection accompanied by actions against all the enablers and employers of the invasion force. Nobody in Trumpland is even talking about this, despite some epic trolling over Gaza with bearded belly-dancers, gold Trump statutes, and poolside lounging with Satanyahoo.

      • Eric Prince is the infamous founder of the Deep State mercenary group once known as Blackwater.

        He is a war criminal and should be brought before The Hague.

        • @ NOVEMBER, Don’t forget though, it was Eric Prince and his Blackwater outfit, that brought order back to New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, you recall,the robbery, rape, assault and Murder taking place in that Chocolate city ……. The Superdome ? …….

        • @November,

          “Eric Prince is the infamous founder of the Deep State mercenary group once known as Blackwater.

          “He is a war criminal and should be brought before The Hague.”

          There is nothing ((Sir Eric Prince)) has done which in the remotest possibility could bring him to the Hague for War Crimes. The whole agitation is because Prince is conservative, counter-establishment, single handedly created an independent private military industry outside the control of CIA-DOD, gave money to Republicans, and refused to kiss the brass ring of the Clinton’s and fold his Security company under their umbrella.

  10. The Gestapo In the UK

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD7wmjp4ZKs

    380 people in Russia were jailed for teir speech, mainly on charges of high treason.
    3900 in UK, because they made sexual deviants uncomfortable online, or criticized muslims. They released muslim rapists, murderers and drug dealers to make room for them.

    Tell me which country is worse ?

  11. Barron Trump turns 19 on March 20th. Isn’t about time he enlists in his father’s “big, beautiful military,” or join the Florida National Guard and protect the US borders?

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