I have some cool new graphs to share.
As I said a few days ago, the 2024 Cooperative Election Study came out after we wrote our big article on regional cultural differences in voting patterns which was based on exit polls. Ryan Burge has written postmortems of the 2024 election on the Catholic and Evangelical vote.
The 2024 CES data underscores our conclusion. Among White voters, Right vs. Left is less a matter of sex than it is a matter of religion and education. White post graduates who never attend religious services are politically the polar opposite of Whites with a high school education who attend church on a weekly basis. 2/3rds of White college graduates who are devout Christians also voted for Trump.
Keep this in mind when you see people in the movement bashing White women or Christians who in the real world are Trump’s biggest constituencies. 79% of White evangelical Protestants voted for Trump in the 2024 election. 67% of Whites with no religion voted for Kamala Harris. That’s also the exit polls which understate the CES data.
Note: It has gotten to the point where non-White evangelicals are breaking 50/50 for Trump and non-White Catholics are 40/60. Libtards are bleeding support among non-White working class voters because their insane secular cultural values keep undermining their race replacement political strategy.
“because their insane secular cultural values keep undermining their race replacement political strategy”
On libtard terms, yes, but there is a boomerang effect in play; whites and nonwhites are uniting under Christianity, and secular whites and secular nonwhites are uniting likewise in opposition. Even though the exact DEI style of race replacement that libtards love is failing, a real mongrelism that is perhaps even worse is forming under Christianity. This helps explain the trashy, fake character of the seeming religious revival under way with the Brands, Tates, American Firsters, Bilzerians, and other internet televangelists; it is exceedingly brown coded. Race is becoming less important. The slow rot of black culture since the 1990s is finally taking effect.
@anonymous,
“Even though the exact DEI style of race replacement that libtards love is failing, a real mongrelism that is perhaps even worse is forming under Christianity.”
The Blame Christianity First Crowd is at it again. These Leftists trolling as Based Rightwingers, Dissident Rightists, or even Neo-Nazis is hilarious to watch because we always know their play moves. We respond accordingly.
Christianity has existed among non-Whites for ages long before now. Ethiopians, Arabs, Asians, Moors, and Kongolese all had Christianity some going back as far as the 1st century A.D.
Simultaneously, Greek, Roman, and later European Christians lived among them. European colonies were in Ethiopia in the Middle Ages and again in the 1500s. Portuguese were settling in Africa and as far away as Mozambique in the 1500s. Race mixing surely happened but more often did not.
Likewise, the Anglo-Protestants evangelized their slaves in the Americas and Asia. South Carolina was almost half or more Black for much of its existence until the 1920s and Blacks regularly sat in multi-racial congregations. British colonists in India and Asia, from Bombay to the Himalayas and Hong Kong to Singapore were a tiny minority and lived and worship among non-White Christians. Very little intermixed occurred.
In contrast, Catholics do have a history of racial intermixing. While there is strong resistance to it among Catholic nations, Papal directives often force them into it. Despite the first Europeans to develop Color Codes, including forbidding myscegenation, the weight of the Papacy was always toward pushing Race mixing. Long before Leftwing Jewish intellectual were producing “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner,” the Papacy was issuing edicts and promoting sermons discussing the God ordained need for Whites to mix with Blacks and Indians.
As a result, places like Haiti, Louisiana, the Floridas, as well as the Latin colonies in the rest of the America’s developed a mix of ethnic mixes. In Africa, the ancient Kingdom of Kongo accepted Christianity, and a Portuguese adventurer married into its royal lineage and later Portuguese noble woman as well creating a Mulatto line of Kongo Kings ruling over a Catholic Portuguese colonists and Catholic Black Africans. They united in waging war against a series of evil Witch Kings and Queens in the Congo which are legendary but almost totally forgotten in Western history. Also, we can’t forget the many Catholocized Indians who joined with the Spaniards in waging war against their Demon worshiping Pagan fellow Indians.
So, what Racial mixing occurred, mostly happened amkng Catholic Colonies. Nonetheless, for most the part, the Europeans, including the Catholics managed to keep a distinct racial and ethnic barrier in the colonies varying according to the depth of European settlement and religion of the Colonists. While distinctions were made by Nordic Protestants and even Nordic Catholics with these colorful European colonists, they were recognized as what we would call White. Even the Anglo-Protestant colonial settlers, who were perhaps the most disparaging of these groups, regularly calling the Catholic ones Dagos, Panchos, Spics, Frogs, etc, still recognized them as European in comparison to the large peasant mass of Indians, Mestizos, Negros, and Mulattos.
So, after all these hundreds of years living amkng non-Whites, often as minorities, these White Christians, Papist and Protestant, managed to keep their broad Western Civilizational traits. Despite even worshiping in congregation with non-White Christians, most European colonial settlers, especially Anglo-Protestants had virtually no myscegenation. Because, even amkgn Catholics due to Papal encouragement, the culture of these Europeans was against mixing.
Today, its hard to say the common vulgarity of American life is due to Christian Racial Mixing. Christian Black Americans even within mixed Congregations, had centuries of little intermixing. White South Carolinians are to this today considered the most Anglo and cultured of White Southerners. So, one can’t say that whatever vulgarization you are referencing now, is because there are more Non-White Christians worldwide and that is why White Christians are becoming more trashy. Even with Papacy originated Myscgenation it doesn’t hold. History just doesn’t support your conclusion.
Exit polls are meaningless because voting is meaningless. The reason why California for example always goes Democrat is that the elections are rigged. Most White Republicans know that there is no point in voting when you could be working to pay the mortgage which is preventing you from selling and leaving the state. This is also the case in most other “blue” states. The majority of White Americans in these states are conservative or centrist. There is not some huge block of white liberal voters. Those people are a minority. They are, however, in positions where they can and do rig the elections.
Ask 7homas about CA politics. It is not a majority liberal state. Even the Mexicans are not liberal. The state just “votes lib bc the elections are fake.
“It has gotten to the point where non-White evangelicals are breaking 50/50 for Trump and non-White Catholics are 40/60.”
Whew! I was really worried about the demographic displacement of Southern Whites there for a minute. Glad we’ll have Trump no matter how brown this country turns as long as we can keep it Protestant.
Whites are being demographically replaced, but the White libtards who are importing them for political reasons are alienating non-Whites with their cultural poison on race, transgenderism and other issues like this. The non-White immigrants are less extreme on these issues which is why it is backfiring on White libtards
There’s a lot of White Flight all over the country, it’s a mixed bag.
So I’m just going to say it.
There was a secondary goal put forward behind the “movement” as it stood in 2017 in Charlottesville. Lee’s statue was the superficial purpose, but the secondary purpose was to show unity between various factions of the right, beyond milquetoast centrist conservatism.
This goal was futile. As a Southerner and a Christian, I did my best to open my mind to irreligious people who happened to share some of my political beliefs. I chose to find common ground, even with northeast and west coast “right wingers”, as long as they respected my beliefs and culture.
That event showed me that there are some areas where I just can’t have common ground.
I do have concerns in regards to female behavior and noting patterns, but I agree that regional culture and religiosity holds more sway over people in the south than gender differences, especially as people move beyond their college aged years.
My Sunday school has been studying Ephesians recently. It brings about interesting conversation between men and women to meditate on Paul’s epistle, but I do not hear complaints from the women when we discuss their Christian role and the role of their husbands. It’s an older group, married couples and middle aged people, but even some of the younger ones seem to understand how much more harmonious life is when the sexes get along and assume Christian duties.
Thank God I’m a southerner. Thank God I’m a Christian.
America’s Right is basically evangelical retards who go to their awful synagogues to pray for the Jewish warlord Yahweh and its fictional son rabbi Jesus, the puppet politicians on the Right terrified of Jewish power so they are pro-Israel fanatics, so they can only push for unrestrained capitalism, globalism, constant warfare in the Middle East, etc
Sickening trash
@Joaquin Fenix
“America’s Right is basically evangelical retards who go to their awful synagogues to pray for the Jewish warlord Yahweh and its fictional son rabbi Jesus, the puppet politicians on the Right terrified of Jewish power so they are pro-Israel fanatics, so they can only push for unrestrained capitalism, globalism, constant warfare in the Middle East, etc
Sickening trash”
Whites in the South score higher on educational exams than Whites in the North in every state except Massachusetts. They also are better at sports than their White counterparts except in some rural Midwest areas and Plains where they are equalled. Also, in general, are better looking and plain fun. Their women are also multifaceted fem machines.
https://youtu.be/hUFL2GT1-2g?si=B6Ql4lyS1wBat9ok
Slim Shady, Nick Fuentes, etc are indicative of an entire region. It is filled with Ellis Island Rif Raf White Trash of midgets both physical and mental, emotionally scarred descendents of hoodlums and prostitutes, confused intellectuals descended from union thug organizers, socialists, and commies, and various wild eyed Yankees who survived the cataclysm of Civil War, Reconstruction, the Gilded Age, and Gotham City Politics. Detroit is a museum of the Northern effed uppnes. Note: Eminem actually has more street class than Nick Fuentes has suit class.
https://youtu.be/eJO5HU_7_1w?si=-TUD9u6REoVDEh-e
It is actually worse. Many are literally descended from the Mafia. With the obvious consequences.
Here I am as a never attending church post-grad who had to decide if I could vote for Trump because I doubted if he was racist or sexist enough to my liking or if I could stomach his jewish hijinks
It’s unfortunate that Whites can identify and group socio-culturally along nonracial lines and might be trying to do that because Jesus is safer at Thanksgiving than Hitler. The last thing we need for the biological survival of Whites is that they go splintering off into various theoretically aracial but in-practice largely nonwhite corners based on political or religious leaning. What’s the point of American Christian conservatism if its 40% or 50% brown? “Nice work, your daughter didn’t have any abortions but now your grandkids are mestizo” Uncle H frowns down on us from Agartha.
“What’s the point of American Christian conservatism if its 40% or 50% brown? “Nice work, your daughter didn’t have any abortions but now your grandkids are mestizo” Uncle H frowns down on us from Agartha.”
Oh come on Brian. Biological Race doesn’t determine eternal life. Even if you don’t share our beliefs you know know what they are about. Your conclusions are not only false they are malicious. Even if they were true, it wouldn’t be the reason for being a Christian. In the heiarchy of ideals, you are at the level of a materialists and probably copulate with Negresses and Portequanitas like Michelle Obama and AOC. So, get off your high horse on this one Brian.
The data I’ve seen shows 90% of Negro wimmen voted for Camel and 71% of Negro men voted for Camel. As more of the wimmen vote, well over 80% of Negroes voted for Camel.
In my State, Republicans can get 20% of the Negro vote, if the Democrat candidate is bad. Buck Negroes liked Trump’s Alpha felon image and especially that photoshopped jailhouse photo that now hangs in the White House.
Jews by the accounts I have seen voted 79% for Camel. That was a better than usual showing for the Red Shield candidate. Jews like Negroes often go 90% or more for the candidate of the Blue Lodge.
The Cholo invaders are turning toward the Reds. In Texas they have been voting 40% for the Red Shields. That is a big problem for the Democrats. The Mex and Salvadoran and Squatamalan Hispies hate those Venezuelians with a passion. That helped Trump a lot with the Latrinos.
Tons of Chicos are in the Evangelical Iglesias. They vote conservative. The Catholics vote, well, Catholic. They hate us and our protestant nation, like 90% of Catholics do.
Funny how a website that pushes a narrative that non-White evangelicals are allies and non-religious Whites are the enemy, and defends a MAGA foreign policy that supports strengthening ties with India, the Gulf monarchies and conservative Latin American governments while attacking Canada and Europe, simultaneously balks at “Third Worldism”.
Though if you look at the rhetoric of conservative Evangelicals, it has been rife with “Third Worldism” for years – constant glorification of African “brothers in Christ” and denigration of “godless” White Europeans. And why shouldn’t it be? If you are a conservative Protestant in the 21st century the majority of those who devoutly practice your religion today are in Africa, so isn’t your duty according to “god” to hate your non-churchgoing racial kin and grovel before your beloved African brothers who are saving Christianity? Given the demographics of who practices Christianity in the world today, Whites would be a small minority in Christian Heaven, no?
@AryanOdinicLion,
“Funny how a website that pushes a narrative that non-White evangelicals are allies and non-religious Whites are the enemy, and defends a MAGA foreign policy that supports strengthening ties with India, the Gulf monarchies and conservative Latin American governments while attacking Canada and Europe, simultaneously balks at “Third Worldism”.”
I dont think Hunter said or intimidated that non-White Evangelicals are allies. Clearly, they are breaking toward our side partisan wise but that doesn’t mean its permanent or they are somehow now instantly Brown Billy Joe Bobs from Alabama. Strengthening ties with India, if done correctly, if it mitigates Indian immigration to the US, increases American immigration and opportunity in India, and helps break it from the BRICS and join us in opposing China is a good thing. Gulf Monarchies help keep order on the Arab Street, promote more civilized behaviors, and generally smothers Jihadism. Latin Conservatives usually protect White interests, maintain Western norms in property and civil laws, and ally with us against commies, jihadis, and narcos.
“Though if you look at the rhetoric of conservative Evangelicals, it has been rife with “Third Worldism” for years – constant glorification of African “brothers in Christ” and denigration of “godless” White Europeans.”
Oh baloney. If anything that comes from Papists and Mainliner Prods. Even then, it’s usually Leftists cadres and not representative of the broad consensus. What is the problem, is the simplification of Evangelism to commercial materialism and the hallowing out of traditional culture in their congregation. That is totally unrelated to being Christian as Christian European Churches were unlike that just a a couple generations ago.
“And why shouldn’t it be? If you are a conservative Protestant in the 21st century the majority of those who devoutly practice your religion today are in Africa, so isn’t your duty according to “god” to hate your non-churchgoing racial kin and grovel before your beloved African brothers who are saving Christianity?”
About 35% of all Protestants world wide are of wholly European descent. Only about 17.5% of World Popery is of wholly European descent. It is not our duty to hate our degenerate racial kin, but rather to hate their degeneracy. I am in firm agreement that Evengalization today should be focused on the European degenerates. The failure to do so and instead focusing on the Global South, has to do with the weakness of character in Church leadership and the allure of the Globalist Grift. Our African Brothers aren’t saving Christianity as much as proving it. It’s a failure of the modern European Mind, due to those European Degenerates like yourself, that God is using Africans to show our mistakes as European nations, not as European Christians.
“Given the demographics of who practices Christianity in the world today, Whites would be a small minority in Christian Heaven, no?”
All things being equal as saved Christians among those professing Christianity, yes, there would be more non-Whites in heaven. But, as Jesus said, there are many halls and mansions in the Heavens, and one is being prepared for you. So, it is not beyond imagination to consider the Heavens as consisting a more splendorous image of our world, its creatures, nations, tongues, and even families.
The Bible is replete with images showing divisions of eternal life but ever climbing toward oneness with the Eternal Father around whom sings entire congregations of different nations and creatures represented by the Apostles and Holy Arch Angels.
Likewise, that would mean there are different levels. So, perhaps the White Christians might be smaller in number but closer to God? I do not entertain such notions as a Christian, for the least among us shall often be the greatest in the afterlife. We did not become Christians so we could rule but to serve. That is the understanding of Christians. That is why Christians are especially kind and helpful to creatures and little ones who prove so loyal and helpful and full of life. So, even dogs go to heaven and especially little children. That is something to celebrate not denigrate.
https://youtu.be/XuUThBPfGws?si=rjL-qvrWvZKTVbaf
>That is why Christians are especially kind and helpful to creatures and little ones who prove so loyal and helpful and full of life. So, even dogs go to heaven and especially little children. That is something to celebrate not denigrate.
Does that include Palestinian children? Or are they Satanic subhumans cursed by God? Or what about all the poor White kids that MIGA Evangelicals want to throw off of Medicaid and food stamps, for that matter?
> Our African Brothers aren’t saving Christianity as much as proving it. It’s a failure of the modern European Mind, due to those European Degenerates like yourself, that God is using Africans to show our mistakes as European nations, not as European Christians.
This is an excellent observation which succinctly states the issue with African Christianity (and that of the third world in general) vs. apostate whites. It also explains one of the reason Evangelicals are more prone to spend their missionary activity in places like Africa vs. godless EUSSR – where the natives not only are steeped in unbelief but outright rejection and hostility towards the gospel. The attitude of native whites in the UK and western Europe (and increasingly parts of Eastern Europe under the control of Clown-World) resembles that of Jews more than that of Africans, where Evangelicals are generally welcomed by the believing Christians. In places like France, they’d be spit upon by not only Jews, but but native French and the hordes of Muslim invaders they’ve imported into the country. Most normies don’t relish the notion of spending thousands of dollars to travel only to be abused by atheist assholes – though this has always been part and parcel of true mission work.
I’d rather save “godless” white Europeans…especially in Europe itself…than be worried about random African Christians….Blood over creed (especially an Abrahamic creed) EVERY DAY.
Nobody’s stopping you. Be prepared to be treated like crap, abused and perhaps even thrown in jail. White shitlibs behave no better than Chabad jews towards Christians who confront them about their apostasy and sin. This is all kind of borne out in the numbers presented by Courtney and HW in their article.
> Funny how a website that pushes a narrative that non-White evangelicals are allies and non-religious Whites are the enemy, and defends a MAGA foreign policy that supports strengthening ties with India, the Gulf monarchies and conservative Latin American governments while attacking Canada and Europe, simultaneously balks at “Third Worldism”.
Canada and Europe (western EUSSR especially) are filled to overflowing with the self-hating white cucks described by HW above. Cuck Island and Scandinavia are literally the worst of the worst – even more cucked and self-hating than the pale-skinned Eloi-tards who inhabit the US west coast and Northeast. Europe is merely a province of the Zionazi empire, and its natives are too stupid, gaslighted and cucked to even comprehend this simple reality. Darwin-Award winners all.
The current state of Europe is the product of Judeo-American occupation and cultural influence. And don’t get me wrong, I have no problem with MAGA policy toward Europe if it means ending the ZOG military occupation of Germany and other European nations, and it causes Europeans to understand that the Judeo-America is not their ally. If it actually weakens ZOG instead of strengthening it that is good.
Most likely it will just end up strengthening it though.
Courtney and HW have done a remarkable job here in terms of backing up their salient argument with hard data. The gender gap is not a large as the religious and racial gaps are. Wignats have exaggerated the gender gap, sometimes for dishonest reasons – chiefly to continue in their Talmudic-style actions of continually defaming Christianity.
The great challenge is getting the rank and file folks who attend church regularly to abandon stupid and deadly heresies – chief of which are the Oxymoronic “Christian Zionism” and Negrolatry. There is a reason the Lord destroyed the Tower of Babel, and some of the Negrolatry or Rousseau-derived “noble savage” nonsense that those from the third-world are naturally more open to Christianity or less prone to fall into sin is a serious fallacy. Africa doesn’t really need evangelization – yet there are far more white church people wanting to travel there as evangelists than those who want to go to the EUSSR – where it’s really needed and a false, state-run “Church” (really Church of Woke = Synagogue of Satan) is the only thing claiming (falsely) to represent Christ.
Thank you, Exalted Cyclops!
The South has always been more Anglo-Protestant than the other regions of the American continent, and far more faithfully Christian in their devotion to Heavenly Scripture and the natural hierarchies God has provided for us. Although the wave of degeneracy that has swept the entire Western world since the so-called “Civil Rights” era has hit the South just as badly, we retain some semblance of our old spirit. For all our modern problems, we’re still the best the US has to offer, on average.
These polls bear that out.
“Libtards are bleeding support among non-White working class voters because their insane secular cultural values keep undermining their race replacement political strategy.”
Establishment libtards (aka liberal Zionists) are also bleeding support among non-White working class voters because their support for the Gaza genocide is undermining their race replacement political strategy.
Republicans would absolutely dominate right now if they decisively committed to Pat Buchanan’s full America First platform: immigration restriction, cultural conservatism, and a non-interventionist foreign policy.
Unfortunately, an addiction to Zionist money is holding back the right.
@WU,
“Establishment libtards (aka liberal Zionists) are also bleeding support among non-White working class voters because their support for the Gaza genocide is undermining their race replacement political strategy.
“Republicans would absolutely dominate right now if they decisively committed to Pat Buchanan’s full America First platform: immigration restriction, cultural conservatism, and a non-interventionist foreign policy.”
I understand your point of view on this and logic behind it. But, its premised on a faulty idea: Non-White Anti-Zionist voters would vote for White Anti-Zionist Non-Interventionist Pat Buchanan politicians. The fact is, the Anti-Zionist Non-White Voters are also Anti-White Colonialist Settlerism. They view Israel and the United States as part of the same diabolical policy dating back to ancient Europe: White Colonialism.
These people before mass demonstrating against Israel, were mass demonstrating against White ruled South Africa, Rhodesia, Algeria, etc. They were toppling statues to White Colonial Settlers from Salisbury and Cape Town and Algiers in Africa to White Colonial Settlers in Montgomery, New Orleans, Richmond, New York City, Baltimore etc America. Ultimately, they will topple monument and memories to the Crusades, the Reconquista, Roman Empire, Hellenistic Empires, Alexander the Great, cuz all about White Colonial Settlerism.
There is no world were Republicans, the de facto White American Party would ever be accepted by these Anti-Israel demonstrators. The people demonstrating against Israel would now be demonstrating against Eufala Alabama Historic District as a Monument to White Colonial Racism if they weren’t trying to burn down Israel. The fact is, Israel is a White Colonial Settler State for Jews. It was the most recent creation of Colonial Settlerism going back to failed attempts of Assyrian and Lebanese Christian stated in the Middle East, French settler states in North Africa, British settler states in Africa, and of course US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. The next Colonial States to be destroyed our those. There is no alliance with these enemies of the West.
Anyone watch the (rigged) Canadian election?
Pish-posh cabbage-headed leprechaun (from Engurland, mind you) banker takes come from behind (lol) win over hapless buoyish (sic) but well meaning francophone gentleman, we are shafted.
Donald Trump needs to annex us by force, or else we are going to starve, literally.
Obi-Wan Kenobi, you are our only hope…
@Angry Pessimist,
“Obi-Wan Kenobi, you are our only hope…”
Obi-Wen Kenobi? Thats a desperate call for help. For a name I haven’t heard in a long time. A long time.
https://youtu.be/Vp1vghU2if8?si=NBnb_PoKPrlQ8JzU
I rather doubt Orange Man has the actual cojones to take over the Canuckistani Clown-World Colony to the north, though their military is an even bigger farce than that of the EUSSR and would fold like a cheap aluminum lawn chair even from the diseased and woke-infested Murikan military. Trump can’t even deal with the Kritarch insurrection here as blackrobed Philosophah-Kangz decree every EO he issues as “unconstitutional”. The AIPAC-owned Repuke party is even worse.
@ExaltedCyclops
I was in the Canadian military for a bit, all we have is .223’s and tents lol. Tanks are for big kids, apparently.
Despite Trump’s shortcomings, at least he is trying. There’s something to be said for trying.
@AryanGlobalistBro
Makes me remember better times…
I’m a race first Christian. We do still exist and have always existed. The Jews will fail, because too many of us are noticing and we are doing a phenomenal job at spreading the word. Thanks to outstanding reporting with “shocking facts”, superb counter propaganda, we’re waking up the Crusader in everyone, we touch with truth.
The more people notice, the more violent they will lash out, trying to keep their usury system as the glue, to keep their empire together and they are lashing out, hurting the very people, they seek to win over. When they come out with their Noahide laws and they are, either you make a stand, or kneel and leave without a head. Regardless of yours or my outcome, the struggle will live on and endure till victory. Thanks to the efforts already put in. I’m not saying we can’t win right now, it is possible, but unlikely.
A fine observation. The trick here is to avoid stepping in the turd-piles set up by federal and Mossad agents like Fuentes and others on the so-called ‘white right’. They are operating – knowingly or unknowingly – to discredit the exposure of truth abut the Synagogue of Satan and their many centuries of evil using the longstanding “Cognitive Infiltration” methodology most recently pushed by (((Cass Sunstein))). If you’re unfamiliar with the strategy and its associated tactics, there is a fine summary offered here.
PS: There are multiple vectors to keep folks from noticing the truth about Satan’s spawn and their actions. One which will no doubt be posted here shortly is that only a tiny percentile of the tribe believe in the Noahide laws, Jew supremacism, etc. That’s a total inversion of the truth – only a tiny percentile actually reject this wickedness. To take one small example: 80% of Jews living in America (who are *not* Americans, but foreigners regardless of where they were spawned) fully support Satanyahoo’s ongoing genocide in Gaza and the west bank.
The flip side the NTJ obsessives who distract from the far more immediate threat posed by white sellouts to the Zio-supremacist agenda. The entire Republican contingent – save a single representative in the house – serves this agenda. Ditto for the vast majority of the Democrats. If Satanyahoo appeared before the gathered whores next week, the result would be the same (and endless standing ovation) or even worse (if that’s possible). Don’t be fooled.