Greg Conte has written another thought provoking piece at National Socialist World on the religious infighting that has consumed the “NS” movement over the past year or so.
“Today is the second anniversary of Hamas’ bold and noble attack on the Zionist terror-state and pedo-scam homebase. Since then the whole world has come to understand the full evil of Israel and its supporters within the US government and elite.
The Jews have to win in Gaza. They have to maintain control of International Capital. Above all, they have to prevent the peoples of America and Europe from rebelling against Jewish rule.
They cannot allow the consolidation of a secular, pro-White resistance against Jewish Power in the United States.
They have a bunch of tactics. But right now, the one that they are pushing most aggressively is sowing religious dissent. By this means, they hope to keep their potential opponents divided and thereby to continue their rapacious and murderous world-wide schemes.
Religion is an easy place to attack. As usual, the Jews are offering two options, both poisoned. One is a hateful breed of atheism that focuses on the so-called “Christian Question”—that is, the idea that Christianity itself is some kind of evil Jewish mind-virus that prevents Aryans from resisting Jewish Power.
The other is deceptively called “Christian Nationalism” though it is neither Christian nor Nationalist. It isn’t really even political. It’s just a vague call to put narrow denominational interests ahead of our whole race’s God-given duty to stand up to Jewish war, mass-murder and state-sanctioned pedophilia. …”
I have a different perspective.
I keep coming back to this photo of George Lincoln Rockwell and the Hate Bus in 1961. It captures something essential about the antisocial role of “NS” in American history.
“NS” is a sideshow.
It has always been about trolling for attention.
It has always been a politically toxic marginalized subculture. It has never held a single office or position of power at the state, local or federal level in the United States in the 80 years since Hitler’s death. Rockwell himself was assassinated by one of his own dysfunctional followers.
From the founding of the American colonies at Jamestown in 1607 to Donald Trump’s second term in 2025, the “NS” subculture has contributed nothing to America’s racial history. Think about that for a minute. The White settlers who fought and expelled the Indians were not “NS.” The slaveowners who enslaved blacks were not “NS.” Every single law that was ever passed in American history that codified some type of racial distinction over the course of three centuries had nothing to do with “NS.”
As I have explained, the broader White Nationalist movement has been a religious ghetto for decades where secular atheists, agnostics and pagans are massively overrepresented relative to their actual share of the White population. This is particularly true on the far end of the spectrum called “NS” where several generations of cranks have created “racial religions” as a substitute for “Jewish Christianity.” They send me their literature all the time rehearsing the same arguments which arrives every month in our P.O. Box. Twenty years ago, the same people were peddling Cosmotheism and Creativity.
The overwhelming majority of White Americans who are irreligious, atheist, agnostic or pagan gravitate toward liberalism, progressivism or libertarianism. It is only a tiny minority of extreme outliers – maybe 2 out of 100 – who incline toward fascism. These misfits do not fit into either political coalition. They are too racist and authoritarian for the Left, but too anti-Christian and socially liberal for the Right. They are mainly known for their lack of self awareness in demanding that America be recast in their image. They do not see themselves as outliers or understand where they fit into the American political landscape.
Picture this.
White Nationalism is a sort of religious ghetto. “NS” is like a block within the larger ghetto. American conservatism or the Right is like the larger town which contains the ghetto. The rules of entry and exit into and out of the ghetto and policing used to be a lot stricter than they are now.
There is currently a riot going on within the “NS” world against Christians which has been triggered by the fact that conservatism has radically changed over the past six years. The mainstream right and fringe right have been redefined by Trump and the MAGA movement which has erased traditional boundaries. The intensification of political polarization has pushed millions of conservatives into fringe right territory. Paleoconservatism, for example, is now an important faction in Trump’s base. Much of what used to be fringe right discourse a decade ago like, say, hating Antifa is now mainstream.
The view from inside the “NS” block of the White Nationalist ghetto is that White Christian Nationalism is a Jewish conspiracy against them to derail “the consolidation of a secular, pro-White resistance against Jewish Power.” They see themselves, not as delusional fringe outliers, but as the main characters in our history. They also incorrectly assume that on the day when “White people wake up” that it will take on the form that suits their ideological convictions and religious preferences when there is no reason to believe this. They are angry that their toy train isn’t the one leaving the train station.
Why would it be?
Every previous racial and cultural awakening and nativist movement in American history has been driven by the radicalization of Protestants and specifically White evangelical Protestants. When it happened last time in the 1920s, it came in the form of 100% Americanism, Prohibition, America First. Even back then, the Klan claimed it was not driven by hatred of Jews, Catholics or Negroes.
This is America.
Adolf Hitler is dead.
The NSDAP ceased to exist a lifetime ago.
This isn’t National Socialist Germany in the 1930s.
White Protestants have always been the main character in America’s racial history. “Heritage American” is the fashionable euphemism we prefer to use today instead of “Protestant” or “Nordic.”
What happened over the last decade that transformed our politics? White Protestants were radicalized by gay marriage, transgenderism, immigration and Wokeism. That explains everything like Charlie Kirk celebrating the legalization of homosexuality in Botswana in Trump’s first term to where he was at when he was assassinated in Utah last month and his memorial service in a NFL stadium.
Greg is also mistaken about the potency of White Christian Nationalism.
1. White evangelical Protestants dominate Southern politics.
2. This is more than enough to be the dominant faction in the Republican Party.
3. Republicans dominate the country through the shape of the Senate and Electoral College.
4. Greg is mischaracterizing White Christian Nationalism by projecting a level of denominational infighting that really doesn’t exist – White evangelicals, mainline Protestants, Catholics, Mormons and all types of White Christians are part of the MAGA base and voted to empower Trump. Theobros and Trad Caths set aside their differences and cooperate more easily than “NS” activists.
5. This coalition is strong enough to control all three branches of the federal government. Unlike in Trump’s first term, “True Conservatism” is no longer holding it back either. Trump’s inner circle is now willing to take the most extreme measures like invoking the Insurrection Act or persuading the Supreme Court to nuke the Voting Rights Act to gerrymander a Republican House majority.
6. Finally, even states that are Christian, but religiously and racially diverse like Texas and Florida have defied expectations in this highly polarized political environment. Cultural polarization works politically against the Left because White college educated voters are a minority.
“NS” activists are butthurt about this development.
They are having an internal meltdown about Christianity because of the rise of White Christian Nationalism and the success it is having in transforming our politics. They are angry that it is White Christians who are closing the borders, banning Antifa, rolling back anti-Whiteism. They see this as a threat to them primarily because it holds up a mirror to their own internal dysfunction.
Winning is bad for “NS.”
The success we are having is unforgivable. It is bad for “the consolidation of a secular, pro-White resistance” which looks like a sideshow. It has always been a clown car or sideshow, but until now the great hope has been that one day White America would wake up and that when that happened somehow “NS” would triumph and their fantasy world would come true.
One last thing.
Charlottesville was the proof of the failure of the “race first” concept.
By putting “race first” and being a “secular, pro-White resistance against Jewish power,” the Alt-Right basically set aside the question of morality. This created the space for “NS” schizos like James Fields, Jr. to show up at the Unite the Right rally. He drove his car into the crowd, got everyone sued and ended the Alt-Right with one single blow. Lack of moral agreement one shotted the Alt-Right.
We don’t need the “NS” activists who spend all their time attacking Christianity to accomplish anything in American politics. Those people are an albatross to anyone who is sane, sober and who had a good moral upbringing and being associated with them is nothing but a legal and political liability. They are weird outliers and their loud presence online disguises their negligible resonance in White America.
Note: As for White Nationalism, which is not necessarily the same thing as the antisocial “NS” weirdos, there shouldn’t be any doubt that the path forward is through mainstreaming. The radicalization of White Protestants is an unalloyed positive development. White Protestants have been persuaded to see Antifa as their enemy and adopt much of the Alt-Right’s old agenda, frame and talking points. The next step is to build momentum and move from anti-anti-Whiteism to explicit pro-White politics.
They’re deluded if they think they are the majority.
They’re correct if they just think the masses and majority are stupid.
> The White settlers who fought and expelled the Indians were not “NS.” The slaveowners who enslaved blacks were not “NS.” Every single law that was ever passed in American history that codified some type of racial distinction over the course of three centuries had nothing to do with “NS.”
Thankfully, enough Puritans ignored the religious status of “praying Indians” to slaughter them when circumstances demanded it. Will the multiracial but totally White ruled future Sunbelt Republic be able to muster the same will? Or will it proceed down the literally dark path of brown labor that poisoned it the first time?
“Thankfully, enough Puritans ignored the religious status of “praying Indians” to slaughter them when circumstances demanded it.”
Actually, the Puritans suffered a couple of mana slaughterings of themselves by Indians before they disabused themselves of notions akin to modern day race liberalism. In the South it was even worse. They repeatedly and repeatedly kept putting themselves out there as potential victims. It took 40 years to end the self suicide.
By the late 1600s, nearly a century of proto-liberal racialism had caused massacres of English colonists at massive scale to the extent all that were left were absolutely motivated by racial blood revenge against the Indians. Thus, began the South’s leading edge of American expansionism against Catholics, Indians, Mestizos, Blacks, and Mulattos on North America. None of it had to do with National Socialism.
Not many people know about the proto-shitlibbery of the Anglos in the New World. I first read about it at the now-defunct VDARE. That would make an interesting article for HW. Not only were they retarded with respect the the Indians, but (even worse) they allowed dindoos to marry English women and own white indentured servants. The Puritans were pretty bad, but nowhere near as retarded as the ones in Jamestown.
That is because Conservatism is not racist. These people like evangelicals seriously do not believe in Jim Crow, segregation, or other relics of the past. They really do believe Democrats are the real racists and that they are helping black Americans and other minorities from the tyranny of Wokism. That is the whole basis of the attack on the VRA; CUCKSERVATISM. You fail to accept this fact because you yourself are in here in the ghetto with us, on the extreme right fringe looking into the mainstream, and are desperately reading your own pet peeves into it when in actuality, none of these people share the same pseudo-nazi Stone Choir hodgepodge culture that you inhabit. That itself is an extremely online ghetto of its own with a “Christian” tinge that has zero traction in the real world, and never will. Ironically for all your newfound love of the mainstream and normal people, actual normal conservatives with their inclusiveness and colorblind outreach like with Justice Barrett or Mike Johnson are far closer to the real message of Jesus than you extremely online Stone Choir nerds. They do not secretly believe Hitler was a hero, or that “real” National Socialism was ever good, or that blacks should be enslaved, that interracial marriage is evil, or any of the other proto-incel political opinions that you can find in a casual stroll through a Stone Choir dox. All of those ideas are held by YOU. You are in the ghetto, “Hunter Wallace, ” you are certainly not normal, and all of this cope and seethe by you is a very long crashout from Charlottesville with your rage over incels, who you share the bed with, and resentment, and spite, and, yes, a major thirst for a tax cut. Nothing you’ve said here in 2025 has any bearing in the real world. All that has transpired is the same old Conservatism of a George Will or Krauthammer but with the reality tv show buffoonery of Trump’s incompetent, loud mouth. You are not secretly getting the Confederacy back by voting for JD Vance and Mike Johnson, or Jim Crow, or the enslavement of blacks, or the banning of interracial marriage, or women back in the kitchen. You are going to get more Glenn Beck, more grifters, more Zionism, and, yes, some tax cuts.
White evangelical Protestants are the only group that has ever implemented any type of racial legislation in the United States. “NS” is a joke and a sideshow. It was true when Rockwell and the Hate Bus toured the South in the 1960s and one of his members punched MLK. It is still true today. It has never amounted to anything but attention seeking from the media.
“They do not secretly believe Hitler was a hero, or that “real” National Socialism was ever good, or that blacks should be enslaved, that interracial marriage is evil, or any of the other proto-incel political opinions that you can find in a casual stroll through a Stone Choir dox. All of those ideas are held by YOU.”
You are frothing-at-the-mouth malicious slanderer. Hunter clearly does not believe, ether secretly or otherwise, that “Hitler was a hero.” You just unscrupulously made that up.
I think of Hitler as just another historical figure who has been cast in the role of Satan or the boogeyman by liberals. I have also repeatedly stressed the differences that I see between Hitler and “NS.” I’m not attacking Hitler by criticizing “NS” because I think he would be just as bewildered by these people as I am. What is the point of creating “parties” which do not engage in politics? How do you “win” by working to empower your political enemies?
Can you imagine Joseph Goebbels screaming nigger at teenage girls on Omegle behind a gorilla filter like Handsome Truth? Do any of the leaders of the Third Reich remind you of people like Jeff Schoep? Or Blood Tribe? Or Gypsy Crusader? Or Glenn Miller? Or Eric Striker? To ask the question is to answer it. There is a significant difference between the two and the actual National Socialists would be insulted to be compared to these people which is why I don’t do it.
“NS” is like the pathetic sports fans who dress up in the jerseys of NFL quarterbacks. They go around wearing the name of other men on their backs because they want to be associated with athletes. They are fans. That’s the relationship. See also Star Trek conventions.
“They cannot allow the consolidation of a SECULAR, pro-White resistance against Jewish Power in the United States.”
This is the retarded part. Adam Green and the other pagan LARPers can’t answer 1 simple question: If jews run hollywood, the record industry, and the MSM, the federal government, etc, then why arent they forcing Christianity on everyone? If Christianity is nothing but some ruse to pacify us, why aren’t they forcing it on us relentlessly in every movie, tv show, music artist, MSM article, piece of legislation etc? Why aren’t they demanding and end to separation of church and state? Why aren’t they demanding bibles in the classrooms?
These pagan LARPers, and NSers are about as serious as middle school anarchists lol.
Good point
Yes, not a bad question. After the colon, though, replace “if” with “since.”
But it’s also fair to point out that the kind of Christianity that is depicted approvingly in film and media is unquestionably of the cucky liberalism+Jesus variety.
Great point.
“This created the space for “NS” schizos like James Fields, Jr. to show up at the Unite the Right rally. He drove his car into the crowd, got everyone sued and ended the Alt-Right with one single blow.”
Shame on you, Brad. Fields was not a schizo. UTR was his first rally. He wasn’t in any group. He is a martyr that was railroaded by libtard Charlottesville, given a former county prosecutor to defend him who was literally in bed with the left (affair with a judge) he was trying to go home, his last text was to his Mother confirming that. Dwayne Dixon moved the street barriers and forced him into the street at gunpoint, where his car was attacked, people yelled death threats, and another antifa guy pointed a handgun at him. He fled for his life. If he wanted to attack them, he would have floored it from the top of the street, but he didn’t, he actually BRAKED before getting near the crowd.
It’s one thing to call out NS fools, but another to trash this young man.
Honestly, that’s fucked up dude. I have lost respect for you here.
He was an unstable schizo with a long history of mental problems who beat up his mother and made a trip to Auschwitz where he took weird photos BEFORE he came to Charlottesville. He was a liability who never should have been there in the first place.
The reason he was there is because we fell for the misguided notion that we would all be stronger “uniting” with these people. The whole event was misguided and should have never happened. The opposite was true in that we were taking a huge risk in assuming that everyone who showed up that day could be counted on to act in the interests of the movement rather than substituting their own issues, agenda, impulses and lack of self control.
Even if the rosiest case for Fields was true and he was completely innocent and it was a terrible accident, which I am not convinced is true, it still doesn’t change the fact that the rest of us are better off without these people. When we place “race first,” we are holding ourselves hostage to the moral views of the most deranged people on the internet which is a key mistake.
You defended Fields for years.
You are an extremely online fringe weirdo with a history of mental illness yourself. Your paterents involuntarily hospitalized you because you were chudding and inceling out so hard, in your late 20s mind you, that your health was taking a toll, dude. Your Stone Choir crypto nazism nerd clique is not shared by any normal person with a room temperature IQ in mainstream society, Christian or otherwise. They and you have been disowned by your own church. You tried to delete that Rusty Houser article but fortunately it’s been archived for posterity:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150729024802/http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2015/07/24/lafayette-shooter-rusty-houser/
You are the biggest piece of lying, shameless shit that ever washed up on this fringe. If there is any mentally unstable threat to life, it comes from you. The fact that you’ve been allowed to reproduce is itself alone an indictment of Christianity, not that you are a sincere Christian. Neither you are those Stone Choir losers have a shred of religious integrity at heart. You are all psychotically cynical scumbags and misanthropes using the trappings of Christendom to hamfist others back into the Confederacy or 1933, and then you have the audacity to claim you are normal and others trying to subvert society lost the plot. Are you trying to win an award for complete lack of self awareness? Look in the mirror!
This is false.
1.) First, no one knew anything about James Fields, Jr. or why he had driven into that crowd for years until his trial. There was virtually no reporting on him. He was a black box. In the initial weeks after the event, there was some disinformation floating around Twitter that Heather Heyer had died of a heart attack, not from her injuries in the car crash, and yes, I briefly bought into that copium and posted about it here.
2.) Second, Michael Edison Hayden who was working for Newsweek at the time called me a few weeks after the event to tell me that the coroner had concluded Heather Heyer had died of her injuries from the crash. I changed my mind in response to new information.
3.) Third, several years later James Fields, Jr. went on trial for murder and there were some stories that came out around that time which I read about how Fields had schizophrenia, was prone to violent outbursts, had beaten his own mom and had traveled to Auschwitz where he took morbid photos and had all sorts of weird “NS” memorabilia in his home.
https://abc13.com/post/what-we-know-about-suspect-in-charlottesville-attack/2306280/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mother-charlottesville-attack-suspect-previously-accused-son-beating-threatening-her-n792651
4.) Fourth, the worst thing that you can say about me is that 17 years ago my parents took me to the hospital for a mild case of mania for staying up too late, drinking too much caffeine and spending too much time online. I’m doing fine and that was almost twenty years ago. That’s with me. I would rather be accused of that than being a schizo who murdered someone or an internet clown who thinks that is defensible because they are “beyond good and evil.”
5.) Finally, the reason your movement crumbled is because psychopaths and antisocial losers destroyed it and trashed your public image and many of the people who used to be involved with you learned something from that experience and realized that you are a massive liability. You political toxicity is an accurate reflection of what you believe about morality and your fellow citizens. You go around screaming “muh race first” because you want to be socially accepted on the basis of race for all the scammers, losers, grifters and sociopaths can ride that Trojan Horse back into our midst.
Heather’s mother did admit ON VIDEO when they went back to the scene for an NBC interview, that she did die of a heart attack, but I guess you’re going to take avowed antifa homosexual Michael Edisen Hayden’s word?
The coroner examined her body and determined she died of the injuries she sustained in the car crash. I don’t believe the coroner had any reason to lie about it.
When was Hunter disavowed officially by his church? I never heard of this.
He is referring to Corey Mahler.
We are obviously two different people.
Had to look up those claims. He went to Dachau on a field trip when he was 15. AP ran an article by some leftoid claiming a classmate said he was saying a bunch of crazy shit. None of this is verified. There is no evidence. The classmate is never named, and how would they remember a bunch of quotes from years prior of a classmate?
You should know better than to believe the MSM, I don’t know why you always side with journos.
We are better without NSM types, but Fields was still clearly railroaded and all my points still stand.
Follow the links.
Fields had schizophrenia and was prone to violent outbursts. He attacked his own mom who called the police on him. Even if he was completely innocent and it was all accident like you say, he never should have been there. We can’t put “race first” without opening the door to people with criminal tendencies, severe mental illness, grifters, nihilists, attention whores, sociopaths, etc. Character has to be first. Moral agreement cannot be waved away.
Most White Neopagans are not comparable to atheists or agnostics when it comes to politics. Most fall into a moderate spectrum with some outliers.
Enough with the “sunbelt.” Bring. Back. DIXIE.
“The next step is to build momentum and move from anti-anti-Whiteism to explicit pro-White politics.”
This is key. Pro-white and most importantly pro-Christian politics. We need to get rid of the 501c3 that keeps the churches quiet in the realm of politics. That would be huge for our cause. Great article BG.
The main reason us Neopagans shouldn’t be associated with modern White Identitarians is that White Identitarianism has been taken over by Theobro Calvinists and Trad Catholics who want us dead for “worshipping demons”. It’s kinda like slugs voting to have salt put on them. This movement has gone insane and is more of a fever swamp than it has ever been. I’m out. I’m still pro-White but y’all have let the Left whip y’all up into an frenzy from them stoking fear and hate into y’all.
There needs to be a talking point inserted into the discussion soon about establishing White banks/crowdfunds/grants/what have you with the express purpose of subsidizing the birth rates and upbringing of White children. Many Whites are held back for financial reasons from having large families. But this often doesn’t stop non Whites, who either don’t care or trust the system to provide for them. We need a baby boom of White children and a system to support that.
‘Many Whites are held back for financial reasons from having large families’
That and finding a safe area that is conducive to having a happy family. No living in fear of who will buy the next house for sale, or if sec 8 with put a bunch of savages on the block.
Hollowed out welfare colony is the future of Amerikwa the Kwanstain.
Just as preezy of the steezy Bibi said back in 1990.
Where is your God now they will say under National Bolshevism.
The idea that “the Jews” are manufacturing Christian Nationalism as a diversion is just, well, way out there.
When “the Jews” (read: mainstream visible organized activist Jewish interests) have historically and even still today had/have as one of their biggest bug-a-boos and concerns “religious pluralism,” (read: Christians getting overtly and publicly Christian).
Besides the American South, another area where Christian nationalism is rising is Eastern Europe. The Easterners do not feel nearly such a serious friction between Christianity and nativism as the decadent and soft Western Europeans do. Currently the leading hardcore Rightist politician in Poland, for example, is a devout Trad-Cat Grzegorz Braun:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grzegorz_Braun
The NS types have tried to slander Eastern European Christian nationalists as well, even uncritically echoing NAFO-globalist propaganda about countries like Russia and Hungary being corrupt and dysfunctional shithole countries.
Hunter, you are right that the current crop of NS are a bunch of misfits and that even Rockwell’s followers were misfits 60 years ago, but I think you are also creating something of a strawman in your attack on NS and you are missing a bigger point that needs to be made.
First of all I am not NS or anything of the sort, nonetheless I find Rockwell to be a fascinating figure for reasons that you are conveniently ignoring in your attacks on NS.
There’s a great video of Rockwell speaking to the Canadian press in 1965, if you haven’t seen it, it is entirely worth watching:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnYGT5TsEx8
Aside from the obvious trolling and attention-whoring that that Rockwell engages in when he says Hitler was like Jesus Christ, every single thing he says here would have been seen as plain common sense by both average and elite Americans prior to World War II:
-blacks are not equal to whites and should be deported to Africa
-America has a “Negro problem”
-traitors should be executed
-Jews are heavily involved in communist subversion, like the Rosenbergs
-queers are “traitors to humanity”
But by 1965, you had to be a “Nazi” to say these things. What happened between 1925 and 1965 that would make an otherwise intelligent, articulate, confident U.S. Navy pilot who had attended Brown University into a “Nazi”?
The answer is that by 1965, the Gramscian march through American institutions had become nearly complete, and the American Cultural Revolution of atheism, sexual hedonism, feminism, miscegenation and Jewish pornography was well underway. In the introduction to “White Power” 60+ years ago, Rockwell decries an avant-garde stage play in which a white woman copulates with a Negro onstage. In other words, he was against the transformation of “white, Christian America” into “Weimerica.” Hence he was a “Nazi.”
The point is that if Rockwell was a Don Quixote, a crank and a gadfly for adopting this position BACK THEN, what does that say about how degenerate the U.S. has become TODAY???
Yes, contemporary “NS”ers are indeed losers and misfits, but NOBODY within elite society or even plebeian society today dares question racial integration, homosexuality, feminism, or miscegenation. NOBODY. White children today worship rappers and NFL thugs with dreadlocks and face tats who have a bevy of hot white concubines. U.S. foreign policy is 100% subverted to Israel. Militant homosexuals teach our kindergarteners and drag queens hold “story hour” for THREE-YEAR OLDS. Tattooed white women make hundreds of thousands whoring on the Jewish porn site OnlyFans with the full approval of their husbands. The white race is dying out and getting outbred by the muds due to widespread abortion, birth control and porn-viewing.
The views that “George Lincoln Rockwell,” a name as American as apple pie, were as American as apple pie prior to the arrival of Jewish bohemians, subversives, Bolsheviks and weirdos during the Ellis Island era.
If one who holds these views is today considered a “Nazi”… then America is well and truly fucked. And if American’s “salvation” is to come from a billionaire carnival barker, wrestling promoter and reality TV star with three wives who is a slave to Israel… well I am simply at a loss for words.
Rockwell at least ran for governor of Virginia and wasn’t engaged in a pure antisocial LARP.
Really, that was a common sense opinion held by average people and elites? Why must you beclown yourself like this?
“Non-Whites can be racist too” and “I’m against reverse racism” are still within the respectable mainstream of political discourse. Only ultra-liberals disagree with that.
However, “racially segregate schools and business” and “deport all non-Whites” are not mainstream views.
I do not think the masses will jump from being anti-anti-white to being pro-white. The only route is the fringe.
Though I personally have mellowed considerably on the race issue from when I first started posting. I simply oppose the anti-White attitudes of ultra-liberals, while focusing more on class than race.
I see eye to eye with leftists who put class first, but not with ultraliberals who treat Whites the way that NS treats Jews.
Browndon Muttbeaner, the unemployed proponent of capitalism (who has yet to establish his own industrial site or product idea), poses a crucial, fundamental, and earth-shattering question: Are National Socialists and Bolsheviks not essentially the same?
Or is he just starting from a fundamentally false premise, namely the Jewish (anti-white) interpretation that socialism is always something completely evil (and above all “worthless”)? Browndon, for example, considers today’s China to be “communist.” Can this really be said to be the case?
Browndon claims that the Nazis did not imprison communists and socialists in concentration camps, but rather “capitalists” (i.e., representatives of big industry). He fails to mention that the reason for their arrest was their refusal to contribute to the war economy or even their criticism of the system.
Aren’t communism and capitalism just two sides of the same (worthless) coin? In other words, where capitalism prevails, communism is bound to emerge, and vice versa, where communism prevails, the black market emerges? Didn’t National Socialism overcome this Jewish “divide and rule”?
Yin and yang are opposites, but they incorporate elements of each other. Anyone who understands Martinez’s logic will therefore ask themselves: “Why does a man have nipples if he can’t breastfeed babies with them? So a man is not a distinction, not a counterpoint to a woman, but ultimately a woman himself!”
When Trump finishes with the leftist Antifa terrorists and illegal aliens (a tall enough order, mind you), he should use the government to roll up the NS goon squads. Those dangerous lunatics have attacked normal White people for far too long.
Some of the people on this comment section are as sick as the lefties who celebrated Charlie Kirk’s murder.
First of all, the whole NS thing is a total red herring. Most of the anti Trump right are made up of people like Gaetz, Green, Massie, Fuentes, Owens, Tucker, Smith, Shroyer etc. These people all have no time for NS larpers. Even David Duke is not NS.
“The slaveowners who enslaved blacks were not “NS.” Every single law that was ever passed in American history that codified some type of racial distinction over the course of three centuries had nothing to do with “NS.” ”
Yes, because none of the people you mentioned cared about fighting Zionism. Many of them may even have been supportive of it. You have every right to deprioritize fighting Zionism so you can instead focus on immigration, but if you choose this path then you need to accept that this is going to be regarded as treason by the anti Zionist faction.
1. You are exaggerating by lumping Gaetz, MTG and Tucker in with people like Fuentes who doesn’t get along with any of them. All of three of those people helped get Trump elected. So did Candace Owens, Owen Shroyer and Dave Smith.
2. No one cared about Zionism until Dispensationalism was spread by mass media technologies like radio and television. It wasn’t a thing. There isn’t a single piece of racial legislation at the state, local or federal level that you can point to in all of American history that was passed, agitated and pushed into law by any group other than White Protestants.
“You are exaggerating by lumping Gaetz, MTG and Tucker in with people like Fuentes who doesn’t get along with any of them. All of three of those people helped get Trump elected. So did Candace Owens, Owen Shroyer and Dave Smith.”
I guarantee you that none of those people, with the possible exception of Gaetz, will support Vance in 28. Most of them are openly regretful about ever backing Trump.
Trump has essentially destroyed resistance to Zionism. Iran has been neutered and the war in Gaza has ended. Germany has already lifted its arms embargo against Israel and other states are set to follow. Is this a price you are willing to accept in order to reduce immigration?
Again, I think your critics on this point are retarded, but it seems like you don’t want to engage with their view which really does have an internal logical consistency
1.) I haven’t detected any of that. Tucker played a key role in getting Vance the VP pick. No one is obsessed with Vance but Fuentes.
2.) We’re not at war with Iran. The war in Gaza appears to be over. Trump has said he won’t allow Israel to annex the West Bank. Palestinians are not being forced to leave Gaza. It is also no longer taboo to criticize Zionism. Granted, the situation could deteriorate next year, but right now I don’t think the situation is as bad as you are making it out to be.
3.) They are marginal people who want to remain marginal. They are opposed to engaging in any type of political activity. Why should anyone who wants to succeed in politics listen to the opinions of depressed people who want to empower our enemies?
The goal was never to stop the Palestinians from getting expelled, that was never going to happen no matter who got elected, the goal was to destroy Israel entirely. Without Iran, Syria and Lebanon, and with Gaza having been reduced to rubble, there is no possibility of doing that in the forceable future. The weapons embargos against Israel are already falling apart and without the Gaza war, international attention is going to be completely taken off of this issue. And you can forget about even suggesting Western military intervention against Israel at this point.
Do you seriously not see how devastating these last 9 months have been for the anti Zionist cause? Look how unhappy the supporters of the Palestinians are with this ceasefire, why do you think that is?
>The overwhelming majority of White Americans who are irreligious, atheist, agnostic or pagan gravitate toward liberalism, progressivism or libertarianism. It is only a tiny minority of extreme outliers – maybe 2 out of 100 – who incline toward fascism. These misfits do not fit into either political coalition. They are too racist and authoritarian for the Left, but too anti-Christian and socially liberal for the Right. They are mainly known for their lack of self awareness in demanding that America be recast in their image. They do not see themselves as outliers or understand where they fit into the American political landscape.
What we are is right. It does not matter how many people vote that the Earth is flat, the Earth is not flat, and if you tried to design a spaceship on the basis of the Earth being flat, you’d fail. National socialism remains the best way to build a society that reaches for the stars. Already in Trump’s America, white children are dying because their parents did not vaccinate them, are you not outraged?
Already people are turning against homosexuality and transgenderism, seeing the Jews’ lies for what they are. They will see, just as surely, when the Christian nationalists and Trumpists fail. They will not increase the fertility rate, they will not make America healthy again, they will not restore traditional values, because their thinking is based on anti-scientific falsehoods. They will realize that the only answer is national socialism, the creation of a national socialist state, a eugenic state. This will only happen if we stand fast, if we do not destroy our credibility by embracing the lies and evils emanating from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Heil Hitler!
‘“NS” is a sideshow.’
What are you calling NS ?
I certainly think the Germa American Bund was NS. They did several positive things, until jwz mafia and government tore them apart. They were building communities and summer camps, youth organizations, massive rallies like Madison Square Gardens.
Rockwell naming his ‘HATE BUS’ was a pr disaster. Unlike the jwz, he had no idea on selling an idea, of psychological persuasion. If I didn’t know better, I would think he was a covert operative for the other side
I’m trying to draw a distinction between postwar American Neo-Nazism and historic German National Socialism. The gap seems to have widened over time. The German-American Bund doesn’t neatly fit into either category. Rockwell and his descendants do. Even Rockwell though still engaged in political activity by running for governor of Virginia.
Everything should be closed on Domingo. Everything except Churches and emergency rooms.
The Schools should be run by the Churches, except for homeschoolers.
All usury (interest) should be outlawed, and severe penalties exacted. Now the Jews will self deport.
Money should be gold or silver, or backed 100% by gold or silver.
There should be no public debt whatsoever. The entire government should be on a pay as you go basis.
The status of women should return to what it was during Christendom. The woman should be the property of either her father, or if the father is dead, the oldest brother, or if married she should be the property of her husband.
Abti-Christian secret societies should be outlawed, such as the Freemasons. Violators should be executed.
A man’s home should be his castle. It should be none of the cop’s business what a man does in his castle, especially with his own property, including the women and children.
That is a start.
>Everything should be closed on Domingo
You accidentally slipped into your native language there, Pedro.
Hunter talks about how national socialists are cranks but conveniently ignores all the cranky nonsense spewed by Christian nationalists like Pedro here. Using rocks as money? Banning lending money at interest? And while we should certainly end feminism “woman should be the property of her father” is an Afghanistani cruelty that European Aryans have never practiced.
While most Christian nationalists are not as extreme as Pedro here, the ideology is essentially backward-looking, conducive to this nonsense. National socialism is a forward looking ideology rooted in modern science that reaches for the stars.
I have repeatedly drawn a sharp distinction between the German National Socialists and American “NS” and how it is a magnet for the indigenous, homegrown American crank. Cranks have been a feature of American politics for over 170 years now.
Cranks have always been around. They are just fond of LARPing as Nazis. If the Nazis had never existed, they would be expressing themselves in a different way, but with the same monomanical view of the world.
It seems like some kind of war has broken out
here, or rather, Hunter has picked at a feste-
ring boil. He’s right about everything he says.
Let me tell you this as a German: The
Nazis’ goals were right and admirable.
The way they “enforce” them
were sick and reprehensible.
We are being destroyed, overrun, because we are stupid, divided, and weak. Jared Taylor is right, we must be content with the crumbs that fall from the tables of the Negroes and resign ourselves to it, because we are a degenerate, weak, corrupt race that no Bantu Negro in the world takes seriously anymore.
That is the essence of development.
That even Negroes surpass us in mo-
rality. Otherwise, their dominance
over us would be inexplicable. We
are the lowest scum in the world.
Here, Low German is sung, sounding similar to the
island accent “English.” The question must be asked:
Why don’t they understand a single word? Because
they’ve betrayed our race for a worldwide disgrace.
https://www.youtube.com/@DeInspringer
It’s interesting how your “half denunciation” of NS puts you in an inbetween position where you won’t gain the support of the masses, yet you won’t gain the support of the far right either. Because you denounce modern day NS but somewhat defend the original, which isn’t a strong enough denouncement for most people. Most people just think the Nazis were scum – the original – not just the neo-nazis.
Basically your position would piss both sides off. “Nazis were basically good in history, but today’s imitators are bad.”
I’m not defending the original.
I could sit here all day and point out the problems with historic National Socialism like getting involved in disastrous multifront wars with unreliable allies, but it would be a different conversation. “NS” is dysfunctional in its own special way like having no political aspirations in favor of waiting for “the collapse” of civilization. It is more like an American millenarian cult.
The original German National Socialists were smart, ruthless, capable people. They were not anything like these people who are a bunch of losers who have never accomplished anything and who latch onto the past to associate themselves with an organization they had no involvement in creating.