I’ve spent the last year researching the late Roman Empire and specifically its collapse and the emergence of Western civilization in the Early Middle Ages. As you can see in the video below, Europe has more or less become Europe by 1000 AD while the map was completely different in 476 AD.
The Romans didn’t civilize Western Europe. Rome itself had become ruins, a cow pasture and a religious city which attracted pilgrims to see the tombs of the dead by this period. When civilization began to flare up again, the Roman Empire was distant memory. Medieval cities didn’t look anything like Roman cities even when they were built on Roman sites.
“Rome itself had become ruins, a cow pasture and a religious city which attracted pilgrims to see the tombs of the dead by this period.”
Rome was surrounded by malarial swamps, St. Ignatius Loyola died of malaria in Rome.
This is a pretty brief discussion of urbanization during Middle Ages. By the modern era, Italy had a far greater proportion of its population living in its cities than Northern Europe: we fail to understand, because of England character as a nation of so many towns and cities, and such a small rural population, the rural population being expropriated and reduced to wage slavery (with agricultural laborers low wages being supplement by parish assistance, sort of the way Walmart’s low wages are supplemented with snap, welfare, and wic – that’s your Southern English heritage from Sam Walton), that we fail to remember it wasn’t always so: Merrie Olde England after the plague was a kind of pastoral paradise where the young men and maids married quite young: Lady Margaret Beaufort married off at 12, gave birth Henry VII at age 13. But her husband died of the plague before the child was born. The USA is wealthy because German farmers, starting Pennsylvania, made American agriculture successful. Alexander Hamilton’s scheme to bring skilled European artisans was the other ingredient. Wealthy New England families made their money because the British allowed them to sell Turkish Opium in China, that’s how they endowed those fancy Ivy League Universities, they did not actually contribute to the development of America in a substantial way, any more than they contributed anything substantial after the initial stages of the American Revolution or the War of 1812. Americans aren’t like the English are today because Americans have had a living rural culture that was dominant for a very long time. Even a densely populated state like the Netherlands retains an important “peasant culture” – and is the so-called “peasant culture” of the USA that makes it a tolerable place to live, as opposed to an insufferable place. Just remember the plain facts: GIs in England felt a profound sense of alienation, but when they entered Germany, they were taken aback at how it seemed “like home.” There’s a reason Americans love the Sound of Music! It’s the scenery, the land, the big family. The American Revolution wasn’t fought so America could “have the rights of Englishmen” – imagine saying that in the 1790s, the reactions you’d get!
This is a very brief, large text synopsis of some facts about cities in medieval Europe.
https://web.stanford.edu/~yamins/uploads/2/4/9/2/24920889/rise_of_urban_europe.pdf
A lot of Americans don’t understand that “the Common Law” was not made for the Common people – New England had a theocratic government with a tithingman assigned to every ten households – Justices of the Peace could whip you without trial. Why do you think everything was settled by duels? Jefferson didn’t found the public schools with the Northwest Ordinance, Horace Mann set up our schoolmarm system with the fig leaf of Bible readings. Orestes Brownson understood what he was up to, and wrote strongly against the public school system, even before his conversion to Catholicism.
Thomas Jefferson stole all the Glebe Lands for his Virginia cronies after Patrick Henry died: the Virginia population was thenceforth largely unchurched, and this why Kentucky was still subject to endemic post Civil War violence, even in 1900! Governor Goebel was shot in 1900.
“In the last days of the nineteenth century, Kentucky was the most violent state in the union. New York reported a few more murders, but that’s mainly because in some parts of Kentucky such records were not kept. Kentuckians fought, dueled, and killed all the time, over family grudges, property, railroads, turnpikes, insults, and especially politics. And, in politics, there was no tougher fighter than William Goebel, who killed and was killed, becoming the only American governor ever to die in office from an assassin’s bullet.”
https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2013/julyaugust/feature/the-late-governor-goebel
And of course they forced the Wathen family out of the distillery business.
@JPS,
Ah yes, I forgot that until large numbers of Germans arrived in Pennsylvania in the 1750s most British Americans were starving dumbkopfs until higher German ubermenschen showed up. Those silly poor English, trudging under the whip of English nobility. The reality is Pennsylvania was already the breadbasket of the colonies and providing substantial products to the UK before the Germans arrived who didn’t show up until in large numbers until the 1750s. That’s when Franklin got so made he said immigration by Germans would ruin America. They are more than fine before the Germans came and in fact back then the average Englishman was rural, owned his land, and was far more productive than his German counterpart. So, bullocks on this Germans saved America nonsense.
In 1790, Pennsylvania was 60% British, 10% French Huegenot, and 30% German. All where entirely Protestant. The French had been British for nearly over a century by then, and about 1/5th of the Germans had been British by then too. Still it was considered the most “Diverse” state in the Union and it made Franklin mad.
The Germans did bring over some more advanced intensive techniques. Mostly the practices crop rotation and had some improved logistics and milling techniques and a few slightly more advanced tools. It was the crop rotation that was most successful. The other one being they were in the most productive soil in the state, the British having already fought and died expelling the Indians in the area, carving out the initial villages and homesteads and forest areas.
Before the Germans got there the area was heavily defended by hostile Indian tribal nations. Colonial authorities tried several expeditions. But not until the early 1700s with the arrival of the first Anglo Irish and Scots Irish did they finally have a fighting community capable of standing toe to toe with the Indians. After getting heavily slaughtered by Indians they finally overcame them by the 1730s and 1740s.
Thats when the Appalachian campaign opened up and the Spanish Indian Wars were reaching climax. So the Kong asked for volunteers. Thats when a whole bunch of these Pennsylvania British decided to move down the great Pioneer trail the South and into Appalachia and sold out to the Germans. The later being new has no idea about the vast conflict that has preceeded while the other British Americans were like, nope, thank you go ahead. So the Germans got it. Still the British Americans had already made Pennsylvania the breadbasket of America. In turn, collectively the British and Germans turned Pennsylvania into the most productive state by 1790. Still, hardly, a German originated salvation.
The other bit about being unchurched heathens is utter bullshit. When the Anglican Church was disestablished in Virginia, the majority of Virginia was Methodist anyways. The Anglican glebe lands were sold off to the State and the revenue was used for education and state welfare trust lands. That’s the birth long term endowment for the University of Virginia. By then just like the rest of the British, all Virginians were highly literate and highly church attending and remained that way up till today.
Kentucky and Appplachia in general was definitely more violent than Pennsylvania but certainly less than NYC. The later had vast numbers of people who were murdered by Irish gangs during the middle and later half of the 18th century. These Irish mobsters stored away their victims in underground crypts and distilleries to such an extent that as recent as the late 20th century they were discovering hundreds of bodies buried during from the Gangs of New York movie era. Fucking disgusting Papists. Note no Jews are involved in that.
At any rate these British American frontiersmen, primarily Anglo-Scots-Irish had three things going against them that made them more violent than other British Americans. One, the predominant number were descendents of borderers and marchers on the English frontier. They had centuries of conflict already under their belt. The amazing thing was that unlike Sicilians and N@ggers, they didn’t descend into atavistic individual or criminal cult nihilistic violence. They remained substantially communal oriented in their violence. Nonetheless, codes of honour were rigidly upheld and did lead to more violence compared to other more stayed and normal British and German colonials.
Second, another significant number had been fighting the Irish Papists in Ireland. Two centuries later when those Irish Papists were secretly interning murdered people and not reporting crimes so it appeared NYC was so peaceful, they had already tried the same thing against Prods in Ireland. So, the British King sent those borderers and other adventurous Englishmen to Ireland. Collectively these became the Anglo-Scots-Irish of legend. After a few conflicts the Prods learned the Irish Papists tricks and repayed it handsomely back. So well did they repay it that they essentially vanquished the Irish Papists.
Third, when the even more savage Indians starting being collectivized by the French and Spanish Papists into ever larger and more numerous savage armies and stopped the Colonial settlements expanding cold, the British empire was dancing a delimna. There simply wasn’t enough Cavalier Southrons to take it to the Indians and the Yankees were to reticent. So, starting in the late 1600s and early 1700s and reaching climax in the 1740s, the British King sent over those former Borderers and Marchers to fight the Indians.
This groups collectively now called the Anglo-Scots-Irish (note they mostly just called themselves Anglo Saxons or Scots) were joined in America by a not insubstantial number of German Palatines. The later had been genocided by Papists in Germany and many had settled in Ireland with the Borderers and fought the Irish Papists there too. They together with the already established English American Frontiersmen broke into Central Pennsylvabia, cleared that area for later Germans you brag about, then most wheeled south at the call of the King and smashed into the heavily fortidied Appalachian French and Indians. This was the most brutal war period and marked with massive slaughter by Indians and reprisal slaughter. It took another 75 years, literally settling a mile over few years with one fortified bunker, homestead, and fort until they broke thru. That’s an incredibly long period of violence.
But it didn’t stop. The Civil War happened just a generation later. These families, almost all of whom were granted land grants for their exemplary service during the American Revolution and had established a complicated and mixed society of planters and yeoman farmers and small town artisans and craftmens and bankers then had it all destroyed by the Union Armies. Not the least also destroyed as a significant number joined up with the North and just caused mass intercommunal violence and inter family feuds.
In Kentucky which was a border State, it turned into hard intercommunal violence with the Confederates fighting assymetrically while in Tennessee it was the opposite. One Kentucky Planter had his son killed by a Yankee Partisan unit for no good reason and then had his house burned down. He was like 55 years old or something. So he waged his own private war sniping at passing Union columns steamships m and is credited with killing 55 Union officers with long range shots, the most of any American sniper until Hitchkock in Vietnam. I think he was from Kentucky too.
So, no, these Americans weren’t stupid illiterate farmers who knew no better before Germans came. The latter were marginally successful, mostly because they got the best land that previous British American frontiersmen, mostly the Anglo-Scots-Irish had cleared savage Indians out. The later were descended of the most incredible frontier European community in known history outclassing Cossacks and Afrikaaners with ease. They then went South cleared out the savage Indian tribes in brutal conflict before then falling into tragic civil war. By the late 19th century when Industrialization came they were just beginning to reform their socieities when it was torn apart by giant mostly Yankee led corporations. Until then this solid frontier ethnicity has high literacy, was heavily churches, and for its frontier violent history was remarkably civil. In contrast, the Irish Papists who they fought and vanquished came to America and decided to start killing for no reason other than political usurpation and criminal syndicalism to fund it. Its likely had the Civil War not happened a substantial number wouldve been recalled to save New York City. It would be a decidedly better place had that occurred. As to the English back home, the rural laborers and yeomanry was better paid and free compared to the Germans who remained in many parts in serfdom until the late 19th century. Only enclosure and later free trade did it in. A tragic end to another fine people, arranged by the Yankees ethnic cousins back in England too. Note, no Jews were harmed or harming in the making of this history.
“In 1790, Pennsylvania was 60% British, 10% French Huegenot, and 30% German. All where entirely Protestant”
There were at least 7000 Catholics in Pennsylvania in 1790. Philadelphia received its first bishop in 1808. When Philadelphia was forced by a successful civil suit to reimburse the Catholics for the destruction of their churches in 1844 by proto-Republican Yankee mobs, the friars pointed to the fact that George Washington had contributed money to the construction of St. Augustine’s. Thomas Fitzsimons and his brother-in-law George Meade played a significant role in the American Revolution. Stephen Moylan was for a time Quarter-Master General of the Continental Army. Commodore John Barry, the first captain of an American commissioned warship – was likewise an Irish Catholic of Philadelphia.
https://archives.upenn.edu/exhibits/penn-people/biography/thomas-fitzsimons/
https://share.google/aimode/8InzN9MZe7bC235D3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Moylan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Barry_(naval_officer)
What’s more, top delegates of the Continental Congress, if not the Continental Congress as a body several times attended Mass at St. Mary’s in Philadelphia. Toleration of Catholicism was not optional, and Jefferson didn’t decree it, it was a mandatory condition of American independence.
No, Germans didn’t turn up starting in 1750. Germantown was established in 1683. Migrations continued throughout the 18th Century until the French and Indian War. The low ball estimate of the Germans in Pennsylvania for thee Census of 1790 is 33%, but the governor of Pennsylvania estimated in the early 1750s that Germans were 60% of the population of Pennsylvania.
* Governor George Thomas, of the Province of Pennsylvania, wrote to the Bishop of Exeter,England, April 23, 1747. “The Germans of Pennsylvania, are, I believe, three-fifths of the whole population, (whole population, 200,000). They have, by their industry, been the principal instruments of raising the state to its present flourishing condition, beyond any of his Majesty’s Colonies, in North America.” Papers relating to the History of the Episcopal Church in Pennsylvania, by W.S. Perry, D. D., p. 265
https://share.google/aimode/05Kq9NFxuoP5eVXcl
Actually, that quote is found in Benjamin Rush’s account of the Pennsylvania Germans, at the very beginning:
https://archive.org/details/accountofmanners01rush/page/4/mode/2up
How can the Muhlenberg legend be explained? It would never have been believed if it wasn’t something that explained to people living in German majority areas why so many people were of German descent but English was the common language.
The dulcimer was a folk instrument in Appalachia because of German ancestry in the family lines. As for the rest of the population being “British.” The Ulster Irish didn’t fight in the American Revolution because they were Orange Order wannabe James Dickey novel rejects.(ie British) They fought in the American Revolution for the same reason they joined the United Irishmen: because they hated English domination. They had no use for the English, hell, that’s why so many of them were strong Unionists during the Civil War, including in states like Kentucky, West Virginia, etc.
Read the accounts of Arthur Fremantle:
“I went into Chambersburg again, and witnessed the singular good behavior of the troops towards the citizens. I heard the soldiers saying to one another, that they did not like being in a town in which they were very naturally detested. To any one who has seen as I have the ravages of the Northern troops in Southern towns, this forbearance seems most commendable and surprising. Yet these Pennsylvanian Dutch*
* This part of Pennsylvania is much peopled with the descendants of Germans, who speak an unintelligible language.
don’t seem the least thankful, and really appear to be unaware that their own troops have been for two years treating Southern towns with ten times more harshness. They are the most unpatriotic people I ever saw, and openly state that they don’t care which side wins, provided they are left alone. They abuse Lincoln tremendously.”
Of course the people Chambersburg saw their town burned down later, and of course, Lee’s Jew Raphael Moses was at the time expropriating the Germans of Pennsylvania to provision Lee’s Army of shoeless grits.
“I went into Chambersburg at noon, and found Lawley ensconced in the Franklin Hotel. Both he and I had much difficulty in getting into that establishment–the doors being locked, and only opened with the greatest caution. Lawley had had a most painful journey in the ambulance yesterday, and was much exhausted. No one in the hotel would take the slightest notice of him, and all scowled at me in a most disagreeable manner. Half a dozen Pennsylvanian viragos surrounded and assailed me with their united tongues to a deafening degree. Nor would they believe me when I told them I was an English spectator and a non-combatant; they said I must be either a Rebel or a Yankee–by which expression I learned for the first time that the term Yankee is as much used as a reproach in Pennsylvania as in the South. The sight of gold, which I exchanged for their greenbacks, brought about a change, and by degrees they became quite affable. They seemed very ignorant, and confused Texans with Mexicans
After leaving Lawley pretty comfortable, I walked about the town and witnessed the pressing operations of Moses and his myrmidons. Neither the Mayor nor the corporation were to be found anywhere, nor were the keys of the principal stores forthcoming until Moses began to apply the axe. The citizens were lolling about the streets in a listless manner, and showing no great signs of discontent. They had left to their women the task of resisting the commissaries–a duty which they were fully competent to perform. No soldiers but those on duty were visible in the streets.”
https://docsouth.unc.edu/imls/fremantle/fremantle.html
Crack a book sometime, Jew lover. Your posts in this common section are pretty silly: comical stuff about the Common Law mythology: you can find in your own Anti-Catholic sources like Henry Charles Lea that the Anglo-Saxons relied on ordeals and combat for trials. You ignorant wasp peons really are too much. That’s why justices of the peace could just go about and whip your knave ancestors without trial.
New England was hungry during the Revolution: they staged a bread riot against the French and murdered a high ranking officer. The Chevalier Saint-Saveur
https://historum.com/t/chevalier-gregoire-de-saint-sauveur.89234/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic
JPS,
Your in depth knowledge of such matters is impressive. I thought I knew a lot. I do not. The more I know the less I know.
@JPS,
“When Philadelphia was forced by a successful civil suit to reimburse the Catholics for the destruction of their churches in 1844 by proto-Republican Yankee mobs, the friars pointed to the fact that George Washington had contributed money to the construction of St. Augustine’s.”
Numerous Christians before being executed by the Ottomans cuz Christian would point to the fact that numerous Ottoman Sultans helped build Churches and Cathedrals in the Empire.
“Thomas Fitzsimons and his brother-in-law George Meade played a significant role in the American Revolution. Stephen Moylan was for a time Quarter-Master General of the Continental Army. Commodore John Barry, the first captain of an American commissioned warship – was likewise an Irish Catholic of Philadelphia.”
Protestant John Paul Jones was an Admiral in the Russian Imperial Navy. There were many Protestants generals and admirals in the French Armed Forces. There were many Catholics in the Sultans service ranging from diplomats to the highest advisors in the Sultans Empire. One of the Ottomans most brilliant generals François Baron de Totti, was a French Catholic.
“No, Germans didn’t turn up starting in 1750. Germantown was established in 1683. Migrations continued throughout the 18th Century until the French and Indian War. The low ball estimate of the Germans in Pennsylvania for thee Census of 1790 is 33%, but the governor of Pennsylvania estimated in the early 1750s that Germans were 60% of the population of Pennsylvania.”
I never said Germans weren’t present in Pennsylvania prior to the 1750s. But the small settlement of Germantown made by a few hundred families hardly counts in a colony that had already existed and consisted of tens of thousands of British families. Germans were never 60% of practically any State or colony in the Empire or Union let alone Pennsylvania which remains to this day British American predominantly and the last remaining vestige of sanity in the North East.
“Governor George Thomas, of the Province of Pennsylvania, wrote to the Bishop of Exeter,England, April 23, 1747. “The Germans of Pennsylvania, are, I believe, three-fifths of the whole population, (whole population, 200,000). They have, by their industry, been the principal instruments of raising the state to its present flourishing condition, beyond any of his Majesty’s Colonies, in North America.” Papers relating to the History of the Episcopal Church in Pennsylvania, by W.S. Perry, D. D., p. 265”
Well no, a reference by Williams Stevens Perry Episcopal Bishop doesn’t count. At any rate it was referring to the Germans in a part of the colony not the entire colony. Its a historical fact that Pennsylvania was never majority German let alone 60% or more of it.
“What’s more, top delegates of the Continental Congress, if not the Continental Congress as a body several times attended Mass at St. Mary’s in Philadelphia. Toleration of Catholicism was not optional, and Jefferson didn’t decree it, it was a mandatory condition of American independence.”
I think there was like one or two or something Papists at the Constitutional Convention. Only Papists could have communion from the Pope’s spiritual hands so I don’t think Prods were getting it. Overall, the Constitution was not a Papist document.
“How can the Muhlenberg legend be explained? It would never have been believed if it wasn’t something that explained to people living in German majority areas why so many people were of German descent but English was the common language.”
That’s like me saying the Loch Ness Monster is derived from the Latin which is why the Scots are all Italians.
“The dulcimer was a folk instrument in Appalachia because of German ancestry in the family lines.”
Probably, I suppose so. But don’t get too excited, next thing you will be saying is Ella Langley is Mexican because she plays the guitar.
“* This part of Pennsylvania is much peopled with the descendants of Germans, who speak an unintelligible language.
don’t seem the least thankful, and really appear to be unaware that their own troops have been for two years treating Southern towns with ten times more harshness. They are the most unpatriotic people I ever saw, and openly state that they don’t care which side wins, provided they are left alone. They abuse Lincoln tremendously.”
That’s basically true of most German Americans in US history. For the most part, they are a thorough going apolitical community. When they are political though they can be just as crazed as Adolf. They couldve easily taken control of various northern cities had they copied the Irish. But they chose not too. They just wanted to work, chill, grill, and eat in the land of the English and sometimes complain about Papists if Prods, or Prods if Papists, or Jews for both.
That’s why Hunter deliberately cultivates that aesthetic to recruit Northern German Americans, especially Northern German American Papists into his Jew hate factory here, since they can be motivated under certain conditions. During the Civil War when they saw a chance to burn down and loot Southern Prods and in WWI and WWII when many resisted American involvement on the side of Britain and lobbied against war or actively involved with sedition and advantage. Here their failure to involve themselves in politics meant they lost and were sent to the front lines. The same thing will happen to Hunter.
“Crack a book sometime, Jew lover. Your posts in this common section are pretty silly: comical stuff about the Common Law mythology: you can find in your own Anti-Catholic sources like Henry Charles Lea that the Anglo-Saxons relied on ordeals and combat for trials. You ignorant wasp peons really are too much. That’s why justices of the peace could just go about and whip your knave ancestors without trial.”
Yes trial by combat was a means of settling some disputes in Common Law. The biggest and latest promoters of it in Europe were the Germans. Some poor bitch of a German had to be tried by combat against her husband. Being fair minded, they equalized the weapons and rules. The man had to sit in a deep hole from which he couldn’t jump out. Both were given long slings with heavy balls at the end. Then they released them, bitch circled proceeded to try and batter her German dumbkopf husbands skull in and he tried to break her legs. So, Anglo Saxon common law and trial by combat wasn’t unusual. Frankly we should bring it back.
“New England was hungry during the Revolution: they staged a bread riot against the French and murdered a high ranking officer. The Chevalier Saint-Saveur”
Yes the New England Yankee was truer to his tradition than later when the Unitarians took over and lobotomized them. They used to celebrate Guy Faulks Day as their main secular holiday and repeatedly insulted the French during the Revolution who they had fought a decade or so earlier as dirty Indian living Papists. They really didn’t like Papists. The first great nativist parties made the most success up there.
Had they managed to stay in power history would be very different. For one, the Civil War likely wouldn’t have happened. But the Yankees got taken over by Slave hatred promoted by an elite to defect away from cheap labor in a way like Hunter is taken over by Jew hatred to do the same for Tyson Chicken. The result in New England was the Papists took over. The same thing will happen in the South. Hunter doesn’t see the similarities of course though. He just wants to grill, chill, eat, and recruit Germans into his Jew abolitionist crusade.
“Lombe wished to figure out how the Piedmontese spun strong yarn from silkworm silk. Divulging such secrets was illegal, so Lombe sneaked into a workshop after dark, sketching the spinning machines by candlelight. In 1717, he took those sketches to Derby in the heart of England.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48533696
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lombe
https://share.google/aimode/tFVM0hql4Te6goF9w
Now Europe has gone back to the early Middle Ages……. Riots by left-wing students, joined by Muslims, are destroying cities.
Christianity destroyed Rome
Roman technology survived in Byzantium.
Yes. I do not think they or their enemies called them Byzantines. I believe they were just Eastern Romans. Their magnificent army and their navy with Greek fire kept them going.
Indeed –right to the end in 1453 when the loathsome muslims finally extinguished the city of Constantine the inhabitants referred to themselves as Roman.The conquering Turks prior to the actual fall of the city (Ottoman Turks) called themselves the Seljuks of Rhum.Byzantium was just a modern affectation by more recent historians.
@Gary,
“Christianity destroyed Rome.”
It arguably kept it alive longer. Without it the egotism of pagan Roman psychos and corrupters would have violently destroyed itself in a glutton feast of sex, blood, and perversion. Christianity actually brought stability, less leaning into insane glorification of the self.
It is true the pagan philosophy, art, and crafstmanshil was intimately related to the pagan Roman mythos and when Christianity took over it tended to suppressed it. But it was already on the way out. Pagan art and philosophy had stultified and retreaded.
Classical sculptures weren’t being made anymore. The many pagan schools had already shrunk. Not because of Christianity but because the natural elan and demography of the Greco Romans had been diluted by the Metics of Syrian, Egyptian, and Semitic nations. What did remain was high art form though and Christian mobs did have a hand in destroying it, but mostly in the East.
In the West the pagan schools made a surprising pluralistic transition into joint Christian and Pagan schools. The West actually had more Pagans as a percentage of its population than the East. On the other had it had a less high percentage of the elite pagan schools like the East. What remained was strangely integrated or coexisted for a long time. Sadly, the wealth of the Western Empire dried up, and everything went to to shit. It was the German Christian barbarians who kept what survived alive long enough to transition into the Roman Catholic Church, Celtic Church, Germanic Church, or travel back to the East after the fanaticism there burned out. Christianity kept the Empire going long after it would’ve failed on its own pagan ways.
Pagantard detected.
the god they gave you, who commands you to turn the other cheek and let god handle it, the universalist god they gave you who tells you to welcome the stranger,
while the people who gave you that god, who are also god’s special favorite people, destroy you
this isnt hard to figure out
There are subtle influences from Rome that linger for centuries.
Edison visited the Roman baths in England and was so fascinated by Roman Concrete that he returned to America and started the mass production of cement. If not for the Roman influence on Edison we might not live in a world structured on concrete, it’s everywhere.
Rioting and getting their asses kicked by the Germans have been France National Pastimes for centuries.
Really —-what about the Napoleonic Wars? The Habsburg and other German kingdoms (Prussia for instance fared rather badly against the French !
The world is actually starting to run out of construction grade sand because of it.
That’s what happens when we share technology with other races, depletion of resources.
Europe 1000 AD? What about Europe NOW? France is burning, and this is surely a gift to the nationalists in the run-up to the 2027 elections. Expect serious unrest if National Rally wins!
I wish I could say that I was interested in the rioting in France, but it is nothing new. The French have been rioting since I started this website. Remember the Yellow Jackets?
Yes – I talked extensively with a French guy who was part of the Yellow Jackets movement. He said the country was on the cusp of a genuine revolution: and COVID came along with the (highly convenient) lockdowns, and the movement petered out (as the Hong Kong protests did at the same time).
These protests are different: while the Yellow Jackets were predominantly White native French, the current looters are the welfare-sucking migrants from the banlieux. It’s time for the French to finally bite the bullet and vote Le Pen into power, even if it leads to conflict…because the more the can is kicked down the road, the more at a disadvantage the native will be.
There is no comparison to the Yellow Jacket protests and this mass insurgency. Historic monuments, City halls, town centers, Churches have been burned to the ground. Downtown areas of high fashion have been totally looted and stored set on fire. 5,000 police are critically injured with scores likely dead. At least some rioters have been killed but it’s not known if by fellow rioters are police. your commie handlers favorite Red, Melenchon is calling the moment the chance for a 6th Republic.
Tell the truth Hunter! You don’t want to talk about it because those rioters with their Algerian and Palestinian flags burning Churches are your allies in the war in Israel. It also didn’t help to highlight the mass Islamo-Commie-Third World Global intifada that has arisen in the West and you initially support. It might scare the natives into voting Republican. Nope, thats not useful to the party line the commissars have ordered. Excusing yourself not talking about it because Yellow Jackets. Good grief!
No, it is really because France is rioting is nothing new.
These aren’t riots they are an insurgency. Burning Cathedrals, Centuries old City halls, the Elyse Palace, seizing control of city governments, killing police officers and Native French cuz Whiteness is new. You just don’t want to talk about Sand N@ggers and White Leftists being bad terrorists. If they were waving Israeli flags you would be all over it like flies in shiites. Your excuses sound positively Melenchon. The DSA would be proud.
Counter-Currents just posted an article affirming that point, noting that the architects of the modern French nation were violent Jacobin radicals who committed regicide and held mass guillotine festivals, which set the tone for an epoch of turmoil that continues today.
Of course, you could make similar observations about the USA, founded by revolutionaries who “blew off people’s heads over a tax on their breakfast beverage” (Dennis Miller paraphrase), tarred and feathered political opponents, and invaded Canada to show the world how much they loved freedom.
Violence is as American as apple pie, and as French as a slice of brie on a baguette….
The insurgency has spread to Italy with Milan and Boulougne erupting into flames. So, it has nothing to do with being Frenchness!
Of course what Hunter Wallace and GPLC say is kind of like what Liberals say about magic dirt nationalism: See all those blacks and browns burning down things and beating police officers and taking over governments, they are just as French and Italy as the first French and Italians! This is the colorblindness of the Left applied to rioters and insurgents. How very Marxist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_France
This incomplete list illustrates it well. Nothing new, what do you expect from a country Celine described… many decades ago like this…
“The solid part of France, the anti-discourse, has always been the Celtic and Germanic part; the part that gets killed, the part that produces, the part that works, the part that pays is Celtic and Germanic.
Ten departments in the North pay as much tax as the rest of France. The non-Celtic part of France talks and pontificates. It gives the country its ministers, its venerables, its hyper-sounding congressmen. It is the wine-swilling part of the Republic, the Southern part, profiteering, freeloading, political, eloquent, hollow.
“France is Latin only by chance, by chance, by defeats, in reality it is Celtic, three-quarters Germanic. Latinism is very popular with the Southern Freemasons. Latinism is very close to Greece. Greece is already the Orient.
The Bougnoulisation of the White race by Latin persuasion, by Masonic promiscuity.
“Southern Zone, populated by Mediterranean bastards, degenerate Narbonoids, thugs, senile Félibres, Arab parasites that France would have had every interest in throwing overboard.
Below the Loire, nothing but rot, laziness, foul Negroid crossbreeding.”
“These frivolous Southerners are the living cause of the debasement of consciences, of the moral and political lowering of France.”
The problem with France is that it is bordering on the Mediterranean
@Hunter Wallace and GPLC,
Welp, if rumors are true it looks like a Brown Islamo-Commie from the mostly peaceful protest Yellow Jacket like wing of French politics as Hunter equivicated, has done the unthinkable. Apparentely a “crowd” of “typical French protestors” as Hunter euphemistically calls the Bozou White Commie and Algerian and Palestinian Sand N@gger insurgents, has gone into Bavaria and burned Hitlers Eagles Nest down in a mass conflagration.
This after the mostly peaceful protestors as Hunter call them brined Churches and Cathedrals to the grown, torches neoclassical city halls, kit the Elysee Palace afire, killed, and then scored to Italy. Bolougne, Milan, Turin where all on fire. Now it’s spread to Germany. But Hunter wants to own Trump rather than talk about Israeli hating Algerian and Palestinian. Flag waiving, Euor girl sex trafficking Islamo Commies burning shit down. Stay focused! Own Israel and Trump by glorifying immenent Republican Party doom!
The notoriously picturesque and evocative site shown repeatedly in films, TV shows, movies, and podcasts, which is a major attraction of tourists wishing to see the beautiful views, history buffs wanting to nerd out, and researchers to investigate and document is no more. It appears to be completely destroyed. The police and secret services have at least one insurgent in custody and did it for the cause to own Trump and Israel. The flames are still spreading across the site and mountain side.
Hunter will say this is just the French being typically French like Napoleon though. However the neo Nazi commentariate at Occidental Dissent is now questioning Hunter’s decision to support Black Supremacy and ally with the Islamo Commies to own Israel and Trump. Are what point do you reverse course Hunter?
Yes, but now the French population is reaching 50% Muslim and he major opposition candidate said the future of France is Creole. I’ve advocated IRA tactics against politicians for years. But is that even possible with flock cameras and digital tracking?!?!!
Since the thread with Aryan Globalist Bro is so long, I’ll post this here. I just want to point out that not only was Boston so hungry in 1779 that they rioted against the French Navy: every account of early American and English settlement in North America talks about TIMES OF STARVATION. THAT’S WHAT THANKSGIVING IS ABOUT – NON-FARMERS DO NOT SIMPLY FIND EMPTY LAND AND BECOME FARMERS. NOW I’M NOT SAYING THE ENGLISH ARE ABSOLUTELY INCAPABLE OF FARMING: WHAT I’M SAYING IS THAT ENGLAND IS A SOCIETY THAT TURNED ON ITS PEASANTRY AND EFFECTIVELY LIQUIDATED IT AND REDUCED IT TO BELOW STARVATION WAGES. IN THE SOUTH – AFRICANS WERE EFFECTIVE AGRICULTURAL LABORERS BECAUSE THEY CAME FROM AN AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY. THE DUTCH WERE GOOD FARMERS IN THE HUDSON VALLEY: THAT’S WHAT THE LEGEND OF SLEEPY HOLLOW IS ABOUT. ICHABOD CRANE, THE YANKEE, IN HIS CUPIDITY – BELIEVES HE WILL MARRY KATRINA, HAVE A DOZEN CHILDREN AND SELL THE FARM FOR LAND IN KENTUCKY: THE BEAUTIFUL VAN TASSEL FARM IS JUST A VEHICLE FOR FUTURE LAND SPECULATION. LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE IS THE STORY OF SUCCESSIVE FAILED FRONTIER SETTLEMENTS. ULYSSES S. GRANT AND JOHN BROWN WERE THE SPECIES OF ANGRY YANKEES WHO WERE MADE ABOUT ECONOMIC FAILURE AND THE RELATIVE SUCCESS OF THE DUTCH AND CATHOLICS: THAT’S WHY THEY WERE SO ANGRY ABOUT THE SOUTHERN WEALTH FROM SLAVERY: BECAUSE THEY SAW THE SOUTHERNERS AS FREELOADING AND UNFAIRLY EXPLOITING THE NEGRO TO BE WEALTHY WHEN THEY HAD TO SUFFER IN POVERTY.
NOW IF YOU THINK THIS ISN’T TRUE: LOOK AT CANADA! WHO DO YOU THINK FED THE CANADIANS? DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THE ENGLISH COULD HAVE SUCCESSFULLY FARMED CANADA?
THE FIRST CHIEF JUSTICE OF PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND, AFTER THE ACADIANS WERE OUSTED, LITERALLY STARVED TO DEATH. The Acadians were eventually invited back as tenant farmers, then the Scottish highland clearance brought bona fide cottars who knew how to survive off the land to Nova Scotia and PEI. This explains why the population of the Maritime provinces remained rather small (yet there are many Scottish descended Catholics) and yet the French were never totally ousted: they weren’t totally ousted because they were needed. This explains why the Lousiana territory had 60,000 non-Indians in 1803: and why there was a German region near New Orleans. The French in Lousiana were distrusted and despised and yet Louisiana was made a state in 1812, with its own legal codes and a majority French speaking population: because the Americans needed them and couldn’t afford to alienate them.
When Selkirk attempted to establish a colony for the Hudson Bay Company on the Red River that flows into lake Winnipeg, some of the best farmland in North America, they had to rely on the Metis to survive. Later on they tried to establish model farms with experts from England. They failed miserably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pRC1gKqdJQ&t=461s
https://youtu.be/1pRC1gKqdJQ?si=-E_kc5h32o7zNz1a&t=1022
While it’s true that a Scot brought some Ukrainian Spring Wheat into Ontario it was Volga Germans who brought in the winter wheat seeds to Kansas and Nebraska. Lincoln, Nebraska is the stronghold of the Volga Germans. Black Sea Germans and Mennonites settled heavily around the Red River valley.(and some Volga Germans, the character Jay Gatsby is suspected of being written as one) You know, think for a moment about the fact that the Amish can thrive on small farms with horse drawn implements. The British Isles could never have produced a sect like the Amish, and they certainly produced enough deranged “liberty loving” sects of maniacs!
When the Loyalists arrived in Upper Canada they were fed for three years on rations purchased by the British Crown. Supposedly after that there was a “crop failure” (ie they failed) They survived trading with the Indians and killing passenger pigeons that had migrated in their direction. Regular Israelites!
The Oregon Trail colonists had to be fed by the Hudson Bay Colony. John McLoughlin, not the ex-Jesuit political host, had to advance them what they needed to survive. And surprise, surprise, they depended on “indigenous labor”! A successful negro farmer named Bush who settled in Oregon is claimed to have sold his crop to his hungry white neighbors very cheaply.
And then there’s New Harmony. Originally established by the German Rappites, it was a highly successful, highly resented by the locals farming collective. Rapp sold it to Robert Owen and moved his followers back to Pennsylvania. Of course Owen socialists failed. Then you have the flirty fishers of Oneida: who failed in agriculture. The Brook Farm (where the future Father Isaac Hecker the Americanist born of Prussian parents was pursued by some Yankee broad) failed. But the German Amana Colony lived in virtual autarky for generations. A true wonder.
When Alexander Hamilton planned to bring Continental European artisans the USA, it wasn’t optional, any more than Catholic support in the American Revolution was optional. Dupont (a Huguenot originally apprenticed in gun powder manufacturing under Lavoisier, the Catholic chemist executed during the Reign of Terror) didn’t come until 1799: good luck fighting the war of 1812 without his gunpowder. And for the “British” in America, (apparently some of them want to be thought of having that ethnic identity after the American Revolution – which was fought to separate from Britain – these are the hyphenated Anglo-Americans) it wasn’t optional to bring in the Germans. If it wasn’t for the Germans, America would be a poor country, like the South was before FDR and his successors directed federal patronage there. It’s true the South was not so poor in the antebellum period: though the general non-slave-holding population certainly had its share of deeply impoverished people: it’s true the South was impoverished by the effects of the Civil War. But it wasn’t just the destruction: it was the fact that the South’s economy depended on negroes working under threat of force and when that force was no longer applied the “engine” of the Southern Economy lost most of its horsepower. Southern Farming depended on niggers in the plains and Germans who came down the wagon road in the hills.
None of the Germans couldve even come into the poor sear inf stupid British Americans shed their blood and tears clearing it of Indian savages, Papist French and Spanish warlords and cbroke the first ground. Your Germans arrived slowly floating down a river of blood made by other people and then claimed, look we made America!
The British agriculture was far advanced of Germany from all the way in medieval periods up to the late 19th century. The British population was the most literate not just in Europe but the world by the 1200s. British farmers both yeoman and tenant made far more money than German serfs and peasants throughout most of recorded history.
In contrast German yeoman farmers didn’t reach a percentage of the the agricultural population that Britain had until the middle 1800s. Germany remained a highly feudal albeit advanced society until the 18th century and the Napoleonic Wars. That’s about the period when Germany caught up but by then the British were into Industry and intensive agricultire at home while settling much of its agricultural population either into the cities or the oversees colonies where they made astounding riches.
While Britain did do its Yeoman farmers a bad turn in the late 1700s, with enclosure acts, most yeoman farmers sold out at high premium and used it to organize capital for cottage industries in towns and cities or for colonial socieities to plant themselves overseas. In contrast serfdom and estate peasants were still the norm in Germany until after the Napoleonic Wars dismantled it.
Oversees British colonists in America were the wealthiest and freest community not just in the British Empire but the world. They weren’t starving acting like poor forgotten ragged idiots like you are portraying. What a crock of neo Marxist German nationalist nonsense.
GPLC,
I completely agree with your statement above. The American Revolution created the French Revolution. This led to the Mexican Revolution which was strongly anti-Catholic. I believe in the Holy Trinity of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost not the revolutionary trinity of liberty, equality, and fraternity.
No liberty or fraternity except under Catholic principles and only spiritual equality not temporal where inequality in authority and wealth is normal.
The Brotherhood of the South-A Poem of Lament
We were a band of brothers, bound by more than blood, By sacred oaths and sacrifice, through fire, steel, and mud. No wealth nor crown could purchase what we held within our breast, For he who stood beside us was counted with the best. And though our banners fell, and time has swept our world away, I’d trade a thousand peaceful years for one more yesterday. To hear their voices rise again, to clasp their hands once more, To stand among those brothers as we stood in days of yore. For kingdoms fade, and nations fall, and mighty empires end, But God, how I miss the brotherhood of men who called me friend.
In hotel rooms till morning, we talked the long night through, With moonshine passed from hand to hand, and tales that only we knew. The League of the South was in those streets, our flags against the sky, Where protests roared and angry crowds sent bitter words flying by. We stood against Antifa and communists amid the furious cries, And watched the banners rise and fall beneath the Southern skies. But what I miss is not the clash, nor all the shouting heard, It’s laughter in those hotel rooms, and every brother’s word. For time has scattered all those men, and roads have reached their end, And I’d give anything for one more night among those men I called my friends.